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[Human Snorenado]

Gamefan alums are suffering?

[Steve Contra]

Fuck, Drinky vs. Gamefan alums was probably the best part of neogaf ever.  He can still rustle their jimmies years and years after.

[Human Snorenado]

I will never fucking understand the gamefan love, and I was around as a consumer back then.  "Ooh, they're so earnest about games!"  Yeah, earnestly, buttfuckingly stupid.  There's something that really needs to be said for shutting up and doing your job like, you know, a fucking job:  it's a great thing.

Then there's the whole "Halverson is a shady druggy" thing, but hey- he's so earnest about games!  That's so great!

[Human Snorenado]

[DCharlieJP]

but rsg isn't dead by any means.  i have a feeling it will go dc-less more often now

RSG has quite a large pool of people who earnestly play Japanese games - to be honest, i'm not really that big of a "japanese gamer" - i play whatever from whatever country it happens to be from so i won't particularly drop XXX hours into , say, Sen no Kiseki so i often feel my opinion is somewhat invalid.

plus - life stuff - i have two kids and a wife , i also have a new job that has a huge array of opportunities for me : my Japanese is passable (or at least - i could get through Japanese interviews and secure jobs at a few places in Japanese - this does NOT make my Japanese great - it makes my -spoken- japanese MEH-to-okay) and the new job has me in a role where i have talk, listen, read, write Japanese constantly and about stocks, shares etc - so i am having to study constantly  : this is a good thing. But unfortunately putting aside time to spend on RSG means less time hitting the books - and right now the priority is the Job/Japanese. But i will go back because i like the people and i like that it's largely unpretentious (well... when i'm not on at least! )

As for the grasshopper stuff - yeah.... 50 ft barge pole - not touching it.

[Raban]

this is like saying you'll never understand street sharks.

street sharks
jawesome

[Damian79]

I forgot who started the whole shen long myth.  Does anyone remember?

[tiesto]

I will never fucking understand the gamefan love, and I was around as a consumer back then.  "Ooh, they're so earnest about games!"  Yeah, earnestly, buttfuckingly stupid.  There's something that really needs to be said for shutting up and doing your job like, you know, a fucking job:  it's a great thing.

Then there's the whole "Halverson is a shady druggy" thing, but hey- he's so earnest about games!  That's so great!

High-quality screen captures (when their competitors were taking shitty blurry camera shots), the best Japanese/import game coverage. The drug-addled reviews were just a bonus. It's easy to see why people loved Gamefan. But between them and the huge 400+ page EGMs, that was the golden age of the gaming press.

[Van Cruncheon]

i think what's disturbing that even as spazzy, incoherent teenaged goons, nick and casey were still more credible as game reviewers than their 30-something mulleted boss -- a boss who, having no useful cognitive capacity of his own, badly aped them.

[Great Rumbler]

I forgot who started the whole shen long myth.  Does anyone remember?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheng_Long

[bork]

I love how the April Fools Joke info was written on the bottom of the same page    And I love how Capcom totally took the Sheng Long design and used it for Ken in SSF2 and Street Fighter Alpha.



After they did it again with Street Fighter III: New Generation, I was playing a game and a guy asks if he can play me, saying "are you sure?  I got to and beat Sheng Long!"  He lost pretty quickly.

[bork]

Fuck, Drinky vs. Gamefan alums was probably the best part of neogaf ever.  He can still rustle their jimmies years and years after.

I don't remember this.     Is that thread still available?

[bork]

lol, dave

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Fuck, Drinky vs. Gamefan alums was probably the best part of neogaf ever.  He can still rustle their jimmies years and years after.

I don't remember this.     Is that thread still available?

The closest thing I found was this: http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=13300976#post13300976

[hampster]

Forget these has been gaming rags

http://www.cubed3.com/news/19676/1/rumour-big-nintendo-wii-u-system-update-expected-for-october-1st.html

Possible Wii U update tomorrow Finally a fix for youtube's freezing
Plus another Direct

[Human Snorenado]

i think what's disturbing that even as spazzy, incoherent teenaged goons, nick and casey were still more credible as game reviewers than their 30-something mulleted boss -- a boss who, having no useful cognitive capacity of his own, badly aped them.

 

[Positive Touch]

holy shit lol

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[Purple Filth]

Forget these has been gaming rags

http://www.cubed3.com/news/19676/1/rumour-big-nintendo-wii-u-system-update-expected-for-october-1st.html

Possible Wii U update tomorrow Finally a fix for youtube's freezing
Plus another Direct

Apparently you can do Off-tv play for wii games but you still need the Wiimotes 


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[demi]

Most useless feature goes to.................

[Joe Molotov]

Now I finally have a use for my third hand!

[radioheadrule83]

Reason for the gamepad's sensor bar and packed in stands finally revealed I guess... I hope they can patch in some control mapping for classic controller games or something. I might actually get some use out of the feature when my nephew comes to visit, but yeah, I doubt many people will.

Updated myself, the nicer things are:

- friends list seems to cache the first time you load it after updating, and loads very very quickly now.
- miiverse and eshop both load a lot quicker too, game loading I'm not sure - would need to compare against prev. video captures.
- web browser already had cut and paste for URL and Search functions, but now you can do it all over any page. Works across tabs.
- web browser also allows you to upload a screenshot to an image host or imageboard/forum that allows it, and now reads PDFs too

Tested the browser image uploading out, and its actually going to be more useful than Miiverse for getting screencaps. Looks like proper framebuffer uploads, much higher resolution than the standard Miiverse captures (which I assume they cap for storage reasons). Edit: seems the captures max at 720p even if you play a 1080p game, still nicer than what was already there though.

Still hope there's more to come in this afternoon's Direct, and that they intend on addressing complaints re: accounts etc.

[Mr. Gundam]

Does the new firmware have games? No? Oh, right.

Carry on.

[Raban]

holy shit lol

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very jealous of this woman. what I wouldn't give to feel the wet, mucousy embrace of an octopus groping my loins

[DCharlieJP]

are downloadable wii games going to be the new f-shnizzle in the direct then?

All 5 releases will be staggered over 2014 to 2017

[Tasty]

720p screenshots sound pretty good.

Guess I'll finally turn my Weeoo on and buy WW HD. I don't think I've turned it on since I got my Chromecast, lol. Before that it was Nextflix U.

[DCharlieJP]

Gamecube games are ripe for HD remakes - path of least effort !

WW HD

I completely forgot that i bought this - it was sort of like a sympathy snog.

[DCharlieJP]

i'm pretty sure the path of least effort is dumping the roms/isos onto the shop, as nintendo have nicely demonstrated over the past several years

not sure if sarcastic or not

they started well back in the Wii days, but i guess now they just can't be bothered dragging them files over to the Sales/VC/Downloads/secure/roms folder on the eshop server?

[benjipwns]

I remember when it was "awesome" that they were doing improved rendering output and control settings for the N64 games and multiple control options for other games. 

We've come so far in eight years.

[Tasty]

To be fair, the VC emulators are pretty damn faithful.

[DCharlieJP]

and they certainly did a lot of no-work rom dumping over the last several years, more than anyone else, but if you've got a better example, i give the floor to you, sir.

Sony ?

Certainly in terms of games dumped , but not in terms of breadth of platforms.

[Tasty]

Yeah there are limits, like the Wii SNES VC was never able to do Yoshi's Island cause of the custom chip (supposedly), but in the end it had better and more accurate timing/sounds/colors than decades-old emus like BSNES, ZNES, SNES9x, etc. I mean it certainly helps that Nintendo knows how they built their own systems, but it's still pretty impressive IMO.

Although it kinda sucks cause it even emulates the slowdown right, lol.

[benjipwns]

I think Higan being written primarily by one guy, and just as old as the VC emulator, is more impressive than the company that made the original hardware making a near cycle-accurate emulator.

[Tasty]

Yeah there are limits, like the Wii SNES VC was never able to do Yoshi's Island cause of the custom chip (supposedly), but in the end it had better and more accurate timing/sounds/colors than decades-old emus like BSNES, ZNES, SNES9x, etc. I mean it certainly helps that Nintendo knows how they built their own systems, but it's still pretty impressive IMO.

Although it kinda sucks cause it even emulates the slowdown right, lol.

The reason why the Wii SNES VC "can't" do FX chip games is because Nintendo doesn't want to pay the licensing costs.

Fucking really? Fuck. Who owns the licenses? And why? How? Ugh.

[benjipwns]

I would assume they'd have to pay Argonaut, they're the designers of the SuperFX chips.

[DCharlieJP]

there are about 200 ps1 classic

we're nearly at 700 Ps1 classics (at least on JPN)

forgive the Wiki link but here we go : http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%B2%E3%83%BC%E3%83%A0%E3%82%A2%E3%83%BC%E3%82%AB%E3%82%A4%E3%83%96%E3%82%B9#2013.E5.B9.B4

all this said - the best retro rom dumps are the Sega 3DS ones - good lord, they're incredible.

[DCharlieJP]

you guys with jp nintendo systems feast like kings.

on the WiiU it's been a trickle of next to nowt :/

I at least indulged myself on the Wii - well, until my Wii accidentally fell over and accidentally hacked itself

[cool breeze]

Yeah there are limits, like the Wii SNES VC was never able to do Yoshi's Island cause of the custom chip (supposedly), but in the end it had better and more accurate timing/sounds/colors than decades-old emus like BSNES, ZNES, SNES9x, etc. I mean it certainly helps that Nintendo knows how they built their own systems, but it's still pretty impressive IMO.

Although it kinda sucks cause it even emulates the slowdown right, lol.

BSNES is far more accurate than virtual console (I believe modern versions of snes9x are as good as VC).

I really like the idea behind VC, Sony's PS1/PS2 legacy games, and Xbox Originals (is this around anymore?).  I just wish Nintendo weren't so greedy or incompetent (or both) and handled it better.  None of this buying the same game for three different platforms BS.  Sony's service is better* but the library can't compare.


*It'll be really lame if the PS4 can't play PS1 and PS2 games.  PS3 game gaikai streaming is understandable.  Wrangling all legacy support that way? fuck that.

[MCD]

Did the update improve speed/menu loading?

[Cerveza mas fina]

Maybe if you update the Wii U to a PS4/Xbone

[DCharlieJP]

well yeah but who owns a wiiU, you'd have to be a diehard nintard or a fool with too much money and oh i've done it again

well, if you're a protroll like me you've got to do your research, hands-on style!

[Huff]

best nintendo direct ever

HD games are hard

[hampster]

[radioheadrule83]

3DS got the bulk of good shit (Dual Destinies demo), and DKCTF being delayed is shitty, but that Mario is looking good and Pikmin 3 DLC will be bought


Nintendo's European president on the karaoke

[Mr. Gundam]

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They clearly know their demographic.

[Tasty]

Donkey Kong was delayed?

Fuck this system.

[radioheadrule83]

Donkey Kong was delayed?

Fuck this system.

They say it needs more development time, but I sincerely doubt it. I played it at Eurogamer and it seems way polished already... my guess is they don't want it getting butt-ravaged at release by the likes of COD, their own pokemon games and the twin console releases. A demo would have at least been nice to fill the gap.

[demi]

So is there a TLDR of this? I missed it.

[Raban]

Link Between Worlds looks hot. Day 1.

[Tasty]

Donkey Kong was delayed?

Fuck this system.

They say it needs more development time, but I sincerely doubt it. I played it at Eurogamer and it seems way polished already... my guess is they don't want it getting butt-ravaged at release by the likes of COD, their own pokemon games and the twin console releases. A demo would have at least been nice to fill the gap.

Maybe they still need to finish the content for it, or want to add more content.

Although, I do guess it coming out in Jan/Feb would be better than having nothing to play those months. =/

Link Between Worlds looks hot. Day 1.

The "any dungeon in any order" thing sounds like pure fanservice but it still sounds like a fresh take on things.

[cool breeze]

even Ubisoft gave Wii U owners a consolation prize when Rayman was delayed!

yeah, it's probably to get it out of the way of bigger releases.  Mario 3D World at least has the Mario name.  Game looks somewhat interesting now compared to E3; less 3D Land-in-HD-ish.  It's coming out the same day as Zelda 3DS (which is looking great) and a few days after I'm getting the PS4.  So, I don't see buying it at that time, but it looks 'good enough' that I'll want to play it eventually.

The "any dungeon in any order" thing sounds like pure fanservice but it still sounds like a fresh take on things.

I didn't understand if you could play dungeons in order to get items for free, or if the loop is: get money-> rent/buy item -> 'unlock' dungeon with item.

[magus]

So is there a TLDR of this? I missed it.

they announced a new kirby game for 3DS that looks all colorfull but will be boring as fuck to play like every other kirby game on earth

[radioheadrule83]

I didn't understand if you could play dungeons in order to get items for free, or if the loop is: get money-> rent/buy item -> 'unlock' dungeon with item.

As they were discussing it, I wondered to myself if it would be good or annoying if they let you into dungeons part way before it hit home with you that you needed to go rent an item to progress. They could artificially lengthen the game that way, and it would probably be fun for speed-runners who like to figure out optimal orders etc, but I think that would annoy a lot of people. It'd be cool if there were more than one way to skin a cat... like, if you could enter and complete dungeons in a number of different ways using different methods, or for different rewards.

As with Mario, seeing more new content really livens it up, I can't wait for both

[Huff]

john harker hinting more delays are coming. what is left to delay?

[MCD]

Iwata's resignation.

[Tasty]

Iwata's resignation.

 

[DCharlieJP]

Monster Hunter 4 ?

pff, i've been trolling that thing way better than you and i haven't so much as touched one!

Trolling is a long game - taking the low hanging fruit trolls make it too easy.

And, to be honest, the WiiU is pretty much self trolling at the moment .

[DCharlieJP]

ah, i thought it was already announced - i guess Mario Kart but... that would hurt surely?

[Takao]

It's all apart of Iwata's master plan to relaunch the Wii U in spring 2014. They've discontinued the Wii to alleviate consumer confusion on store shelves. They'll actually release games that calendar year, and there will be a remodel so it looks even less like a Wii with the added bonus of saving even more pennies.

[Tasty]

I don't think the relaunch will be some big event, but the system is already in a stronger position it was than when it launched. I mean, you might liken it to lipstick on a pig, but the firmware update, (sparse) lineup, and pricecut/basic-culling are something, at least. Enough to stand up to the competition? Probably not. But at least it's actually usable now thanks to OS improvements, and has a couple decent games (MH3U, WW HD, soon Mario, DK, Bayo, and third party ports like Watch Dogs, AssCreed 4, Arkham Origins, etc.) to play.

[DCharlieJP]

But at least it's actually usable now thanks to OS improvements, and has a couple decent games (MH3U, WW HD, soon Mario, DK, Bayo, and third party ports like Watch Dogs, AssCreed 4, Arkham Origins, etc.) to play.

i think the issue is that the wider public haven't bought in and i'm not sure they will at this point as hype for next gen starts : "Soon" Mario, DK, Bayo needed to hit sooner and 3rd party ports ? That might back fire unfortunately as it may just further highlight that WiiU is mired in last gen.

If you have a wiiU already then it's all steps in the right direction but i fear that the WiiU's head start on the Next Gen machines has been largely squandered - mainly due to horrific planning/"next gen is hard" miscalculations