Game

[Raban]

those pics
Twilight Princess
Wind Waker

[Tasty]

"The rest of the game holds up really well, especially the character models."

Yet your first example is an ogre that would really need redone texture work. 

He could use some touching up, yeah. In his case though the overall character model is still pretty good, and higher poly than one would expect.

those pics
Twilight Princess
Wind Waker

Have my babies Raban. 

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Although I have been enjoying WW. It feels a lot more insubstantial than I remember tho.

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[Rufus]

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Although I have been enjoying WW. It feels a lot more insubstantial than I remember tho.

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Yeah, as much as I like the game, a vast ocean isn't exactly exciting. They took Hyrule field and expanded it tenfold. The two cut dungeons hurt it more though.

[hampster]

This is Mario like you’ve never seen him before, and unlike so many of his next-gen rivals, he nips along at an effortless 60fps. If the true measure of new hardware’s worth is how stark the difference is between it and what came before, then this is the most next-gen game that 2013 has yet produced.

Edge: 9/10

[Tasty]

Oh man, I can already tell that quote's gonna get a lot of use on GAF.

Still on the game though.

[cool breeze]

yeah, most of the reverence for Wind Waker feels like it's for its presentation, which is pretty amazing.

[Himu]

Another goty contender. Nintendo on a roll. Best year of Nintendo in a longggg time. Easy the developer/publisher of the year. 3ds is   but it is good Wii U got Nintendo love.

[Tasty]

Hmm...

Fire Emblem Awakening
Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon
Mario & Luigi: Dream Team
Animal Crossing: New Leaf
Pikmin 3
New Super Luigi U
Zelda: Wind Waker HD
Pokemon X/Y
Zelda: A Link Between Worlds
Super Mario 3D World

Downloads:

Crashmo
HarmoKnight

Published:

The Wonderful 101
Lego City Undercover
Sonic Lost World

Huh, that's actually not a bad year of output. It's actually pretty good.

X, Smash Weeooo/3DS, Mario Kart 8, Bayo 2, Donkey Kong Ballistic Banana next year, not bad either. They don't seem to have much for 3DS next year tho.

[Himu]

Like with ds, it seems Nintendo is shifting support from portables to the main console now.

I also don't see that output as "pretty good". That is GREAT and very consistent.

[Tasty]

It would only be great if DK Chocolate Cacophony had actually come out. But even to my jaded ninthing heart that's really good.

I'm nervous about 3DS because it doesn't have the third party support the DS did, especially abroad. Where the hell is DQ7r, Squeenjizz?

[Steve Contra]

SM3DW gets perfect scores.

LMAO @ Knack

Still on Knack, huh?  Keep fighting the good fight.

[Himu]

I think 3ds will pick up in third party now that MonHun 4 is out

[Tasty]

I think 3ds will pick up in third party now that MonHun 4 is out

I really want that to come out before summer next year. Anything past that would be ridiculous especially with fucking Pokemon having a worldwide launch.

Although I don't know if I'll play it as much as 3U even if it is better without a console version. My gametime was pretty evenly split between 3DS and Wii U on Ultimate.

[mjemirzian]

60 fps shots fired. Probably won't stop most devs aiming for 30 fps with prettier effects, though. :'(

[Smooth Groove]

Mario needs 60fps since it's all about speed and timing.

Wii U is a beast!

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Nintards were claiming Super Mario Galaxy looked better than the PS3 and 360 games out at the time.  Not surprised six years later they're trying to pull that kind of laughable shit again.

[TakingBackSunday]

This mario game sure looks like mario

[tiesto]

You've conquered every Mario game... You think you've mastered all there is to know about Mario? Well you better think again!



So hyped for Friday... 3D Land was fucking great and what I've played @ Pottery Barn was awesome.

[MCD]

http://kotaku.com/man-arrested-for-allegedly-threatening-to-kill-nintendo-1468106203?utm_campaign=Socialflow_Kotaku_Twitter&utm_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow

Japan bore. Who was this?

[bork]

what I've played @ Pottery Barn was awesome.

WTF, that wasn't a joke?  They really did have kiosks there? 

[Joe Molotov]

Pottery Barn

[Tasty]

Obviously Nintendo knows their fans will be forcefully brought there by there mothers so they'll have a captive audience.

[Lovingsteam]

Why am I seriously thinking about picking up the Zelda XL bundle? I don't even like the art style of ALBW. Ugh. Screw Nintendo for making me want this.

BTW, is thegreatmightypoo a troll? Not even the king of Nintentards can be that big of a fanboy.

[tiesto]

what I've played @ Pottery Barn was awesome.

WTF, that wasn't a joke?  They really did have kiosks there? 

Yeah but only at some malls. The Walt Whitman Mall in Huntington had one and I was in the area so I figured, 'why not'.

[Himu]

Nintards were claiming Super Mario Galaxy looked better than the PS3 and 360 games out at the time.  Not surprised six years later they're trying to pull that kind of laughable shit again.

Argue that it doesn't.

I think it has more personality than any next gen game so far. The lighting is impeccable. Aesthetically, it is easily the best looking next gen game, and aesthetics is the only thing that ever matters in this type of argument unless you're someone who equates realism as great graphics.

I mean, looking at your post.

Then looking at this image:



And then looking at this:



I know which one I prefer and it's the one with colors in it.

[Tasty]

Himu's the only one with enough courage on this heartless forum to try the whimsee argument and I respect you for that. 

[mjemirzian]

Well if you like 60 fps games and platformers Wii U has you covered.

[Tasty]

Well if you like 60 fps games and platformers Wii U has you covered.

And 1080p up-ports (WW/MH.)

[radioheadrule83]

Don't know why I hadn't seen this before!



the fresh prince / rap / vidya mashup thread on GAF has some amazing videos in... Biggy vs Thomas the Tank is incredible!

[hampster]

Last gen the graphics comparisons between the Wii and PS3/360 were silly, but now? I don't know, HD has been kind to mario

I'll let them have this one, if only to save themselves the embarassment of trotting out more X.gifs

[Himu]

Having an artistic background and appreciation for visual aesthetic  = having aspergers?



It has already been made clear that Andrex and I are among the most visual people on the forum due to our professions so it makes sense.

[TakingBackSunday]

"I am among the most visual people on the forum."

 :himu

[radioheadrule83]

Contrasting something that looks colourful and fun with a screen of something that looks generic and shitty doesn't necessarily = the whimsy defence

Nintendo games tend to be built with ludologically sound foundations... they start with an accessible, fun gameplay premise and either slap well known characters on top, or try and create one. They are made to 'look' as fun and inviting as they are to play. Many games are commonly built from a different starting point. They have gameplay in mind - but a lot of narratology too. With genres like FPS, they need to please an army of knowledgeable fetishists or have some kind of online bait to lure you in. The whole focus is on the tech, a marketable premise, telling stories - or some combination of the three. Art can take a back seat to spectacle, fun can take a back seat to bombast. It's the gaming world's clash of civilisations. Unlike the IRL clash of civilisations, where all religions are distinguished mentally-challenged and often incompatible, there's no reason ordinary people can't just enjoy good entertainment no matter what form it comes in.

TLDR? Mario looks great, sounds fun. End of.

[Tasty]

Having an artistic background and appreciation for visual aesthetic  = having aspergers?



It has already been made clear that Andrex and I are among the most visual people on the forum due to our professions so it makes sense.

[Rahxephon91]

You two are definitly something.

Mario looks good. Too bad it's Mario.

BF4 looks great, way to chose a terrible picture to prove a point. The thing is even though its obviously not a cartoony game, BF does many things that make it have an asthetic unlike other realistic try hard games. The use of grain, lightning, ect. BF 3 and 4 look astheticly pleasing not just because of the sheer power of thier graphics.

I don't have a carrer in this so ignore me.

[Tasty]

Sure guys, you go ahead and keep on keeping on

Don't lie, you want in on the loving.

[magus]

i know how to make both parties happy



there you go

[Himu]

 

Having an artistic background and appreciation for visual aesthetic  = having aspergers?



It has already been made clear that Andrex and I are among the most visual people on the forum due to our professions so it makes sense.

I paint(DON'T JUDGE ME) so no. The new Mario looks great but that doesn't invalidate the existence of "realistic" graphics. Using "it's colorful!!" as a reason to justify buying inferior hardware, let alone calling people "non-visual" for preferring more powerful hardware, is a strange claim to make.

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I'm using "apostrophes"

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1. I haven't bought a Wii U.
2. I am not going to buy a Wii U.
3. Wii U is way less powerful than both new consoles.
4. The claim is not that BF4 is ugly - it isn't.
5. The claim is that Mario 3d World is the best looking HD title on recent systems. To me it is. This isn't Wii vs Ps360. So fighting the idea people think Mario looks better is distinguished mentally-challenged.

This is HD vs HD. And Mario 3d World looks beautiful. I'm not impressed with any ps4 or xbone titles visually aside from Ryse. And we know all about that game.

[Tasty]

I paint(DON'T JUDGE ME)

Too late.

[Himu]

Why would anyone judge that you paint?

[Himu]

[Tasty]

[Smooth Groove]

Mario looks great but I dunno why you would compare it to BF4.  BF4 with colorful pastel colors would look just as dumb as Mario in a dark, greyish world.

It's not like there aren't already HD games like Knack for a more valid comparison to be made. 

[thisismyusername]

Mario looks great but I dunno why you would compare it to BF4.  BF4 with colorful pastel colors would look just as dumb as Mario in a dark, greyish world.

It's not like there aren't already HD games like Knack for a more valid comparison to be made.

Ding ding. Two different art-styles/art-directions. It's stupid to compare "realistic" directions with "whimsy" (sorry, Andy) art-directions.

[Bebpo]

Question because I'm going a bit nuts and doing all my xmas shopping right now:

Ok, so I got NSMB U, Luigi U, Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, W101.  Any other Wii U games worth playing?  Demi listed Zombi U in his "want to get" and I see it's only $22 at Amazon right now.  Is that a legit, good game?


Next up, do all Wii controllers work with Wii U?  I lent out my Wii along with a Classic Controller Pro and Wiimotes.  Should I grab that stuff back.  I know the Wiimotes work but what about the CC Pro?


Third, Donkey Kong Country Returns is probably the only Wii game worth playing that I never got around to buying/playing.  Should I pick it up since Wii U is bc for $22 or should I get the 3DS port for $27.  60fps->30fps sounds pretty shitty for a 2d platformer, but I hear the 3DS one has better controls because the Wii one has stupid motion crap and 3DS one has extra levels.


Also on the 3DS topic, pretty much the only 3DS noteable game I don't own is Luigi's Mansion 3DS, is that worth getting or is it a tech demo?

[Smooth Groove]

I remember reading somewhere that Wii U pro controller only works for Wii U games so you might wanna get back the Wii classic controller for BC.

Are you planning on getting the Wii U pro controller?   It looks nice but the price is sickening. 

[Bebpo]

Yeah it looks nice, but it's a ripoff.

So the Wii U CC Pro only works on Wii U games.  But does the Wii CC Pro work on Wii + Wii U games?


And are there even any Wii U games you'd rather have a CC Pro than the Wiipad or a Wiimote?  Since the Wiipad has 2 analogs and stuff and a few games need the screen, it seems like it'd be fine for 3d games?  The main problem with Wiimote + Nunchuck was always camera control and stuff for games like Xenoblade.  Probably don't need a CC Pro until X or Bayo2 since W101 needs the tablet.

[MCD]

Wii U can only support one Gamepad so I'd rather let my family and friends play with the Pro controller instead of a Wiimote.

[Joe Molotov]

Next up, do all Wii controllers work with Wii U?  I lent out my Wii along with a Classic Controller Pro and Wiimotes.  Should I grab that stuff back.  I know the Wiimotes work but what about the CC Pro?

Some games use the Gamepad only, some games let you use the Wiimotes, some games let you use the CC Pro, some games let you use the Wii U Pro Controller, it's a grab bag. You have to check the back of the box to see what controllers you're allowed to use.

[Smooth Groove]

Wii U can only support one Gamepad so I'd rather let my family and friends play with the Pro controller instead of a Wiimote.

Can you use two Wiimotes or two Pro controllers simultaneously?

[Bebpo]

Next up, do all Wii controllers work with Wii U?  I lent out my Wii along with a Classic Controller Pro and Wiimotes.  Should I grab that stuff back.  I know the Wiimotes work but what about the CC Pro?

Some games use the Gamepad only, some games let you use the Wiimotes, some games let you use the CC Pro, some games let you use the Wii U Pro Controller, it's a grab bag. You have to check the back of the box to see what controllers you're allowed to use.

Sounds like Nintendo.

[Smooth Groove]

It shouldn't be that hard to get a new controller working with BC titles

Sony got the Dual Shock 3 to work with PS2 titles

[MCD]

Wii U can only support one Gamepad so I'd rather let my family and friends play with the Pro controller instead of a Wiimote.

Can you use two Wiimotes or two Pro controllers simultaneously?

Dunno. I'm planning to buy it in a week with Mario but I won't have that many controllers to check anyway.

[Tasty]

Question because I'm going a bit nuts and doing all my xmas shopping right now:

Ok, so I got NSMB U, Luigi U, Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, W101.  Any other Wii U games worth playing?  Demi listed Zombi U in his "want to get" and I see it's only $22 at Amazon right now.  Is that a legit, good game?

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Also on the 3DS topic, pretty much the only 3DS noteable game I don't own is Luigi's Mansion 3DS, is that worth getting or is it a tech demo?

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate.

Also, yes, Luigi's definitely worth getting.

[Bebpo]

Wii U doesn't have a wired internet connection just like Wii doesn't.  Guess I won't be doing any online gaming on it since my wifi is spotty!  Glad Sony & MS still have actual ethernet ports.  Tried to system update when first booting it but it failed 5 mins into downloading the update.  Luckily Mario 3D World has the latest firmware.  Still taking foreeeever to update the system >_<

Question because I'm going a bit nuts and doing all my xmas shopping right now:

Ok, so I got NSMB U, Luigi U, Mario 3D World, Pikmin 3, W101.  Any other Wii U games worth playing?  Demi listed Zombi U in his "want to get" and I see it's only $22 at Amazon right now.  Is that a legit, good game?

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Also on the 3DS topic, pretty much the only 3DS noteable game I don't own is Luigi's Mansion 3DS, is that worth getting or is it a tech demo?

Monster Hunter 3 Ultimate.

Also, yes, Luigi's definitely worth getting.

I tried playing MH a few times.  Never got into it.  Too grindy and hated the controls.  Plus I don't like playing games that involve other human beings most of the time.  Not for me.

[Bebpo]

And apparently it's NOT the latest firmware!  Because it won't let me make a Nintendo ID and says I need to update to latest system update before I can do that!

90 mins later and still not able to play a game.

[Bebpo]

Still updating.  Even the PS3 didn't take an hour to download an update and install it...

[radioheadrule83]

Bebpo - there are unofficial and official LAN adaptors for Ethernet if your WiFi is spotty
https://www.google.com/search?q=wii+lan+adapter&client=ms-android-orange-gb&espvd=1&source=lnms&tbm=shop&sboxchip=Shopping&sa=X&ei=XnOQUrg61IqFB9H8gPAP&ved=0CAwQ_AUoAA&biw=360&bih=567

It's too late to do now but did you try to skip the download process and stick a game in btw? I suspect games still have the firmwares on disc. Maybe Mario comes with the latest?

Re: the cc pro vs the Wii U pro controller, one important plus for the latter is that it has clickable sticks etc. The full range of buttons. I find I only really use it when I play multiplayer COD or something. I'd use it a lot more if they find a way to patch in BC.

[Bebpo]

Mario doesn't come with the latest update.  But eventually was able to download the whole update though it took like 40 mins and then another 20 to install.

[Takao]

If that whole Bayonetta 1 port to Wii U thing works, I wonder what Nintendo fans will blame when it comes out and sells 4000 copies.