Author Topic: Vita Thread (Read 808082 times)

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #1560 on:** March 10, 2012, 05:31:01 PM »

the textures are that rough in game though. it's clear and I think even Sony san Diego have admitted that it was the PSP verison and they just quicly threw some graphical quirks on it

ManaByte · « **Reply #1561 on:** March 10, 2012, 09:13:05 PM »

Pulse pitching is bullshit.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1562 on:** March 10, 2012, 10:05:00 PM »

tried the uncharted, rayman origins, and unit 13 demos today

rayman origins is gorgeous, i like how you can pinch to zoom

uncharted and unit 13 have shown me that i need to invest in some grips, my hands were getting kind of crampy

pilonv1 · « **Reply #1563 on:** March 10, 2012, 10:58:42 PM »

I always forget that the Vita is bigger than the PSP. Photos like the one above make me think my eyes aren't working.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #1564 on:** March 10, 2012, 11:35:16 PM »

Hey, do PSP games just do pixel-doubling or do they actually smooth things out?

cool breeze · « **Reply #1565 on:** March 11, 2012, 12:41:13 AM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on March 10, 2012, 11:35:16 PM

Hey, do PSP games just do pixel-doubling or do they actually smooth things out?

both. if you hold the touch screen for a few seconds, an options menu comes up letting you turn on biliinear filtering. some other options, like mapping the right stick to other inputs.

Takuan · « **Reply #1566 on:** March 11, 2012, 12:41:50 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 10, 2012, 05:26:02 PM

Posted this in the mecha thread, but since it's Vita related.

Super Robot Wars Z2-1 comparison on PSP vs. Vita (near HD asset 2d game like Blazblue)

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2d stuff upscales very nicely on Vita.

How difficult is this to play with 0 knowledge of Japanese? I just watched a trailer and it looks incredible.

huckleberry · « **Reply #1567 on:** March 11, 2012, 10:13:50 AM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on March 10, 2012, 10:05:00 PM

tried the uncharted, rayman origins, and unit 13 demos today

rayman origins is gorgeous, i like how you can pinch to zoom

uncharted and unit 13 have shown me that i need to invest in some grips, my hands were getting kind of crampy

I picked up the PDP vita trigger grip from gamestop. Definitely makes holding the vita more comfortable for long sessions. Only problem is with the shoulder triggers. They are kinda mushy. Not terrible, just not great. Love having the grip on until some decent cases get released.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1568 on:** March 11, 2012, 11:54:59 AM »

cool, i'll look into it, thanks!

Bebpo · « **Reply #1569 on:** March 11, 2012, 04:57:21 PM »

Quote from: Takuan on March 11, 2012, 12:41:50 AM

How difficult is this to play with 0 knowledge of Japanese? I just watched a trailer and it looks incredible.

The thing about the Super Robot Wars games is that they all play the same. The good news is that once you figure out how to play one, you can play them all with zero knowledge of Japanese (though you'll have to make up your own story). The bad news is it takes a bit to figure it out and you'll need to learn to recognize what the various spell names look like.

There are LOTs of guides though on gamefaqs and stuff and enough people play the series that it's easy to get questions answered. If you don't mind having to figure things out as you go, it's totally doable. I'd say 3/4ths of the western SRW audience who plays the games don't know Japanese.

That being said, starting with one of the English translated ones like SRW J on the GBA (fan translated) or the SRW Original Generations 1/2 GBA games (officially released) is really the easiest way because you learn how to play the games in English and then you can figure out the Japanese ones.

If you like mechs, 2d animation, and srpgs it's a great series and worth getting into.

cool breeze · « **Reply #1570 on:** March 11, 2012, 10:50:44 PM »

text in motorstorm rc is unusually small

Bebpo · « **Reply #1571 on:** March 11, 2012, 10:55:41 PM »

Finished Escape Plan. Outside of about 5-8 rooms of the ~80, it's a great game. Awesome art and use of classic music, neat touch puzzles that make use of all of Vita's features. Lots of puzzle concepts. Unfortunately, some of the controls types (moving bubbles, for instance) are a bit finnicky mix of touching and physics and can cause things to not go as they should resulting in many many frustrating deaths. It's only about those 5-8 rooms where things are really setup in a way that causes headaches; the bulk of the game gives enough lenience that despite the controls not being 100%, you can beat them. At least the devs included a "skip room" button, for the really bs ones if you get too pissed off after a dozen or two deaths. Overall the game is fairly well designed and a lot of fun. Length is pretty good at 4-5 hours. Trophies are fine outside the "3 star every room one" which is total BS mainly because the back of the Vita is extremely sensitive to touching, so just holding the damn system results in a bunch of rear touches which kill your score. Good luck 100%-ing the game.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1572 on:** March 11, 2012, 10:58:41 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on March 11, 2012, 10:50:44 PM

text in motorstorm rc is unusually small

Cross-platform games, baby.

(A.k.a games created with the PS3 in mind)

Bebpo · « **Reply #1573 on:** March 11, 2012, 11:46:09 PM »

I don't like Motorstorm RC much. The control just feels really off and you actually have to let go of gas to make turns. wtf, this is an arcade racer, you make it so you can powerslide or something around turns. Leave it to the Motorstorm guys to suck the fun out of an RC racing game

Also the graphics on the Vita one have this ugly washed out look and the framerate is weaksauce. It's not a baaaad game, but it should have been way better than this. Also why is there no full stage camera? I hate the first time around a track having no idea what the turn ahead of me will be and then I hit a wall

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1574 on:** March 11, 2012, 11:52:45 PM »

It was an ok game until I adjusted the controls (alternative steering/ X for gas/ square for breaks) and view (aerial), then it became wowsome. Really fun game THAT WAS OFFERED FOR FREE!

The visuals could use a lift, and the tearing and framerate issues are unfortunate and weird since the game is not pushing anything at all. I guess we'll have to blame the short dev-cycle again, because it feels like it could use a couple more months of optimization.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1575 on:** March 12, 2012, 12:10:52 AM »

i hope they do more stuff like the hustle kings deal (already owned the ps3 version), it was nice having a free game waiting for me right off the bat

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1576 on:** March 12, 2012, 01:16:04 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 11, 2012, 11:46:09 PM

I don't like Motorstorm RC much. The control just feels really off and you actually have to let go of gas to make turns. wtf, this is an arcade racer, you make it so you can powerslide or something around turns. Leave it to the Motorstorm guys to suck the fun out of an RC racing game Also the graphics on the Vita one have this ugly washed out look and the framerate is weaksauce. It's not a baaaad game, but it should have been way better than this. Also why is there no full stage camera? I hate the first time around a track having no idea what the turn ahead of me will be and then I hit a wall

Well, now we know why it was free.

cool breeze · « **Reply #1577 on:** March 12, 2012, 03:41:54 PM »

omg bear is ninja how can that be

Bebpo · « **Reply #1578 on:** March 12, 2012, 03:44:27 PM »

Take note companies, this is how you sell games.

cool breeze · « **Reply #1579 on:** March 12, 2012, 03:49:14 PM »

acquire had every character model as a skin in wots3 too. shinobido 2 just happens to have several missions where you fight bears.

game is very repetitious, though. I don't remember other shinobido games feeling this way. I still like it for ninja action, flying around, grappling, stealth killing bears. the worst parts are when you can't stealth, like boss fights and these 'ox cart' missions, which kinda suck.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #1580 on:** March 12, 2012, 08:12:44 PM »

Going to buy a Vita now because of that

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1581 on:** March 12, 2012, 11:39:21 PM »

My world tour character. The face is captured using the Vita's camera. (Down syndrome anyone?)

Checking out his new boots...

Those are hot.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #1582 on:** March 13, 2012, 12:41:42 AM »

atleast you managed to get your faces skin color to match

Bebpo · « **Reply #1583 on:** March 13, 2012, 01:25:41 AM »

Started playing Hot Shots 6. Game is greaaat. I'm also way better than I remember being at this game! Got like a -7 on my first 9 hole!

Had to choose between playing on my JP account for trophies or US account for online.

...went with trophies

Might finish the SP for trophies and then start a new save on my US account to just play multiplayer whenever.

bork · « **Reply #1584 on:** March 13, 2012, 08:25:04 AM »

Quote from: Bebpo on March 13, 2012, 01:25:41 AM

Started playing Hot Shots 6. Game is greaaat. I'm also way better than I remember being at this game! Got like a -7 on my first 9 hole!

Had to choose between playing on my JP account for trophies or US account for online.

...went with trophies Might finish the SP for trophies and then start a new save on my US account to just play multiplayer whenever.

Jeez dude...switch over to your U.S. account already. You're just delaying the inevitable.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1585 on:** March 13, 2012, 12:04:17 PM »

Quote from: Arde0 on March 11, 2012, 10:13:50 AM

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on March 10, 2012, 10:05:00 PM
tried the uncharted, rayman origins, and unit 13 demos today

rayman origins is gorgeous, i like how you can pinch to zoom

uncharted and unit 13 have shown me that i need to invest in some grips, my hands were getting kind of crampy

I picked up the PDP vita trigger grip from gamestop. Definitely makes holding the vita more comfortable for long sessions. Only problem is with the shoulder triggers. They are kinda mushy. Not terrible, just not great. Love having the grip on until some decent cases get released.

picked this up

even though the "handles" are small they made a world of difference, i can shift my hands around now and get comfortable without feeling like i'm going to drop it, that extra bit of leverage really helps to alleviate that "pinched thumb" feeling

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1586 on:** March 13, 2012, 12:50:55 PM »

Link to the product, please.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #1587 on:** March 13, 2012, 12:52:49 PM »

I dont get the handles thing. ANYWAY- I blame ME3 for my downturn in PS Vita gaming; only so many hours in the day.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1588 on:** March 13, 2012, 12:58:50 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2012, 12:50:55 PM

Link to the product, please.

http://www.gamestop.com/ps-vita/accessories/ps-vita-trigger-grip/98483

http://www.amazon.com/PSVita-Trigger-Grips-Sony-PS-Vita/dp/B0072A4JVW

the "handles" or grips at the bottom just brace your hands and space them out a bit more, so that your thumbs aren't always clawed over on the analog sticks

cool breeze · « **Reply #1589 on:** March 13, 2012, 01:11:23 PM »

I'm considering the grips now that I'm playing more in bed or in the resting position. Normally I'm resting it on my fingers, but when the weight isn't all balanced back there, it's less comfortable to use.

I'd rather have one with bigger grips, meant to be used at home, without worrying about the added bulk. It's cool that there is a mechanism to turn the shoulder buttons into triggers. PSP and DS grips always felt off because of the shoulder button placement. This Vita trigger grip and the hori wheel grip for 3DS both just reposition the shoulder buttons to a more natural position. It's the difference between using the triggers and bumpers on a 360 controller; my fingers naturally rest on the triggers.

Bebpo · « **Reply #1590 on:** March 13, 2012, 01:17:55 PM »

I've never used accessories on a handheld. But I can see them being useful in Vita's case if they prevent your fingers from constantly touching the rear touchpad and causing chaos in certain games. The rear touchpad is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too large. Shouldn't have been so close to the edges since it's almost impossible to hold the system without touching on it as is.

cool breeze · « **Reply #1591 on:** March 13, 2012, 01:30:42 PM »

I think it's down to the software. Shinobido 2 lets you set the backtouch to wide, narrow (default), or off. Narrow only is only the middle of the back touch, so 50% in the middle and 25% either end is dead. You can't activate it by accident.

I'd rather more developers handle it like that. The back touch panel is pressure sensitive too, or touch sensitive, or something. I don't know if any games use that other than the Welcome Park tutorial app.

cool breeze · « **Reply #1592 on:** March 13, 2012, 06:56:32 PM »

so, uh, I get home and find a 32 gig card and a slip saying I paid $40. I don't know how this happened, but cool.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1593 on:** March 13, 2012, 07:25:33 PM »

Vita feels big enough to be ok without the grips. Havent haf much trouble holding it for a few hours.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #1594 on:** March 13, 2012, 07:47:37 PM »

holy shit if you have a vita go download the Ridge Racer demo. it's the E3 demo where you watch a video and mess around with the music to add visuals and differnt sounds its amazing

huckleberry · « **Reply #1595 on:** March 13, 2012, 08:09:44 PM »

The grip works well enough. More importantly, it will hold me over until someone makes a decent fucking case.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1596 on:** March 13, 2012, 11:18:19 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on March 13, 2012, 12:58:50 PM

Quote from: Shaka Khan on March 13, 2012, 12:50:55 PM
Link to the product, please.

http://www.gamestop.com/ps-vita/accessories/ps-vita-trigger-grip/98483

http://www.amazon.com/PSVita-Trigger-Grips-Sony-PS-Vita/dp/B0072A4JVW

the "handles" or grips at the bottom just brace your hands and space them out a bit more, so that your thumbs aren't always clawed over on the analog sticks

Thanks! I'll report back in a couple of days.

cool breeze · « **Reply #1597 on:** March 14, 2012, 02:10:55 AM »

so there's a demo for Ridge Racer on PSN

the demo is that interactive visualizer thing from e3 last year

I guess there's not enough content for a real demo

bork · « **Reply #1598 on:** March 14, 2012, 10:45:14 AM »

Ridge Racer also got a bunch of free DLC music packs yesterday. Songs from R4, RRV, RR6, and RR7...brings the total amount of music tracks to 62.

Now do that for the amount of race courses, Namco. :p

Bebpo · « **Reply #1599 on:** March 14, 2012, 04:45:31 PM »

Quote from: Linkzg on March 14, 2012, 02:10:55 AM

so there's a demo for Ridge Racer on PSN

the demo is that interactive visualizer thing from e3 last year

I guess there's not enough content for a real demo

I find this hilarious.

If they gave you 1 track to play, you'd be getting 1/3rd of the full game!

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1600 on:** March 15, 2012, 08:04:32 PM »

I bought Unit 13 today, all you Vitaboritos add me if we are not already PSN friends, my name is EelOBrian

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #1601 on:** March 15, 2012, 08:27:03 PM »

can i be ur frend

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1602 on:** March 15, 2012, 08:39:01 PM »

sure

no gay stuff, though

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1603 on:** March 15, 2012, 10:19:08 PM »

I've been your PSN friend for almost 4 years now. I think some gay stuff is long overdue.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1604 on:** March 15, 2012, 10:28:18 PM »

of course

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #1605 on:** March 15, 2012, 10:45:28 PM »

MLB The show has osme of the worst fucking lsowdown ever. plus the pulse pitching has a shitty lag with it

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #1606 on:** March 16, 2012, 07:12:25 PM »

I just received the Trigger Grips accessory, and here's what I like about it:

The grips themselves, are fantastic. I mean the difference is night and day, at least to me considering how I used to hold the device. They're just the right size and material, and I'm not struggling with extending my thumbs for a few touches and swipes. The accessory itself felt cheap until I clipped it on, from there it almost felt like a part of the original design. Basically having it there makes a lot of sense.

Here's what I don't like about it:

The triggers, they're horrible. Very clunky and to push, like a rusty pedal that desperately needs to be oiled. The more I avoid the bottom part, and press where the buttons really are, the better though (duh, amirite?). That's the most legitimate complaint, the others stem from my obsessiveness... Like why is it lined up with plastic instead of silicon? I'm scared of scratching my new shiny toy. I'm not liking how uncomfortable it is to remove. The other thing is that it's not sitting well with my screen protector, as the top left and right clips are pushing down my Hori protector and two bubbles are starting to form. That is not cool, but I think I can do something about it, like scotch tape or anything to cover the edge of the film.

3.5/5, and a "no regrets." Thanks Eel.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1607 on:** March 16, 2012, 07:17:50 PM »

the triggers loosen up a bit with use

i haven't gotten any scratches since i got it, but if you are worried you could glue a dab of foam or fabric to the contact points

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1608 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:45:16 AM »

So, I've been noticing all these Vita banner ads on game sites, and one of them was themed "FPS gamers, rejoice!"

...

"You know, sometime, in the future. When we have an FPS game for you to play. May, maybe. Resistance. Yeah. And probably some other unspecified game, later on. Whatever that is. We have that extra stick, though. Check out this animation and see how cool it's gonna be whenever that happens."

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1609 on:** March 21, 2012, 09:34:49 PM »

COD, believe!

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1610 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:22:18 PM »

I hadn't given it much thought before, but after seeing that it struck me how dumb it was for them not to have some type of FPS ready on launch day. Even a short demo of some sort. I mean, it was one of their bullet/selling points, haha.

Bebpo · « **Reply #1611 on:** March 21, 2012, 10:26:49 PM »

And it's not like FPS games aren't easy to spit out real quick.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1612 on:** March 21, 2012, 11:05:52 PM »

Not even one of those COD ripoffs by the Gameloft whores!

Just puzzling, considering how much they emphasized that type of game when they were showing it off back in 2011.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #1613 on:** March 21, 2012, 11:38:01 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on March 21, 2012, 10:45:16 AM

So, I've been noticing all these Vita banner ads on game sites, and one of them was themed "FPS gamers, rejoice!"

...

"You know, sometime, in the future. When we have an FPS game for you to play. May, maybe. Resistance. Yeah. And probably some other unspecified game, later on. Whatever that is. We have that extra stick, though. Check out this animation and see how cool it's gonna be whenever that happens."

I did laugh at Resistance being marketed as "the first dual analogue portable FPS" like it was some crowning achievement.

cool breeze · « **Reply #1614 on:** March 21, 2012, 11:49:31 PM »

Resistance looks pretty awful

Companies should just port some old FPS PS2/Xbox fps games. I'd buy Timesplitters, Urban Chaos, Cold Winter, and other console-only FPS games.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #1615 on:** March 21, 2012, 11:56:07 PM »

Would like: Rainbow Six, Vegas-style, lots of short, focused co-opable missions, no intrusive story or cinemas, no touchscreen or gyro crap (except maybe for basic AI instructions), doesn't have to look amazing so long as control is tight

Seems like UBI could shit that one out no problem, no?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #1616 on:** March 22, 2012, 12:07:01 AM »

Quote from: Linkzg on March 21, 2012, 11:49:31 PM

Resistance looks pretty awful

Companies should just port some old FPS PS2/Xbox fps games. I'd buy Timesplitters, Urban Chaos, Cold Winter, and other console-only FPS games.

Agreed, I'm amazed by the lack of FPS available so far.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #1617 on:** March 22, 2012, 01:24:46 AM »

Brothers in Arms would be a cool series, with touch screen commands combined with stick control for shooting

I'd also be down for a prettied-up Return to Castle Wolfenstein with Enemy Territory included

and oh hey i bet this thing is powerful enough to do a straight-up BF1942 with the full 64 players

as long as we're wishing for shit, i mean

fuck, a scaled-down Borderlands, Far Cry, anything

it's just cricket sounds right now

i'd imagine we'll be getting a handful of all those outstanding iOS shooters ported over shortly, though

spoiler (click to show/hide)

this thing is doomed, isn't it

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Owl-faced Wizard · « **Reply #1618 on:** March 22, 2012, 02:35:08 AM »

Give it up, FPS true home is on consoles, not handhelds.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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Bebpo · « **Reply #1619 on:** March 22, 2012, 03:59:33 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on March 22, 2012, 02:04:44 AM

The FPS problem in a nutshell is:

if you're waiting for western developers to throw decent support behind a handheld, you'll be waiting a while

if you're waiting for japanese developers to make a decent FPS, you'll be waiting a while

it's a lucky thing that sony themselves have like three FPS series right now for some reason. that'll be the best bet for getting FPSs on the Vita.

If they can port down games at a minimal cost, it still seems like it'd be worth it though.

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Author Topic: Vita Thread (Read 808082 times)