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« Reply #3240 on: November 20, 2012, 09:49:16 PM »
What's hindering Vita in Japan right now? No Monster Hunter? Price too high? Competing smartphones and tablets?

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« Reply #3241 on: November 20, 2012, 09:55:47 PM »
I forgot that Wipeout 2048 includes HD+Fury DLC if you own them on PS3.

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« Reply #3242 on: November 20, 2012, 10:28:21 PM »
jesus you werent kidding. 1 hour 10 mins until the first battle in persona 4. jesus. but great game so far
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« Reply #3243 on: November 20, 2012, 11:50:43 PM »
What's hindering Vita in Japan right now? No Monster Hunter? Price too high? Competing smartphones and tablets?

Pretty much, and while the software library has good games it's ultimately the kind of stuff you'd pick up alongside a Vita, or after you own one. Not exactly a race to the store and grab it day 1 thing.

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« Reply #3244 on: November 20, 2012, 11:53:34 PM »
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we say there are no games because ALMOST NO ONE IS DEVELOPING GAMES FOR THIS THING ANYMORE. come on now

you make it sound like this hasn't been the message since the day it launched! Oh... wait... #sadface

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« Reply #3245 on: November 21, 2012, 12:52:58 AM »
Persona 4 Vita wallpapers from the limited edition:

http://www.atlus.com/p4g/v/ir5xpJYzDd08/

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we say there are no games because ALMOST NO ONE IS DEVELOPING GAMES FOR THIS THING ANYMORE. come on now

you make it sound like this hasn't been the message since the day it launched! Oh... wait... #sadface

Maybe I'm not reading the sarcasm, but you mean it wasn't? I mean shit, everyone but Ubisoft/Bend/Nihilistic was making ports for the system. :/
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« Reply #3246 on: November 21, 2012, 01:09:01 AM »
yeah, having portable umvc3 and ngsigma sucks ass. i get angry thinking about how i could be playing kid icarus or pilotwings. 
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« Reply #3247 on: November 21, 2012, 07:40:32 AM »
you all weren't joking about those loadtimes for wipeout

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« Reply #3248 on: November 21, 2012, 07:49:23 AM »
At least it's fast and responsive outside the initial level loading.

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« Reply #3249 on: November 21, 2012, 08:54:58 AM »
this is quite true

i've never been very good at these wipeout games.  i just can't get how the crafts handle
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« Reply #3250 on: November 21, 2012, 09:13:03 AM »
this is quite true

i've never been very good at these wipeout games.  i just can't get how the crafts handle

same here.  how do i stop crashing into the wall?!   I try going fast, I try going slow.  The only way I have control is to go too slow to win.   Guess I just suck

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« Reply #3251 on: November 21, 2012, 09:17:43 AM »
It's a boat sim. You have to turn way ahead of the turns.
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« Reply #3252 on: November 21, 2012, 09:36:57 AM »
Sony Smash Vita port is great. I had a blast last night playing online. I think it pulls from the PS3 servers too. But anyways was quite fun.
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« Reply #3253 on: November 21, 2012, 08:05:18 PM »
I hear Jet Set Radio is super broken on Vita :(

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« Reply #3254 on: November 21, 2012, 08:15:54 PM »
it is? I played a level or two - the big thing that hit me was how BORING it was.
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« Reply #3255 on: November 21, 2012, 08:17:33 PM »
My buddy sez the music keeps hitching every 30 seconds

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« Reply #3256 on: November 21, 2012, 08:17:41 PM »
I hear Jet Set Radio is super broken on Vita :(

Shut down and reboot the Vita. Same bug happened with the PC/360/PS3 versions of the game.

My buddy sez the music keeps hitching every 30 seconds

Dunno about that one. :-\

yeah, having portable umvc3 and ngsigma sucks ass. i get angry thinking about how i could be playing kid icarus or pilotwings.

NG Sigma Plus does suck ass, though... dude.

I get what you're saying, but really: No effort or care has been given by developers for the hardware in comparison to the 3DS. You can't really deny that. Don't get me wrong, I love all the ports because I loved all the PSP's ports (outside of crap ports like the Burnout downgrades) but we can't really take that as "strong support" of the system in comparison to the 3DS getting new IPs or new entries in the series instead of ports or downports.
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« Reply #3257 on: November 21, 2012, 08:36:59 PM »
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My buddy sez the music keeps hitching every 30 seconds

huh? naaa - that's not happening.
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« Reply #3258 on: November 21, 2012, 09:57:32 PM »
I remember  reading somewhere that Sony has a "no ports" stance for the Vita. I'm sure that's not helping its game library.

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« Reply #3259 on: November 21, 2012, 10:50:37 PM »
It's not a bad port as far as i can tell, the game just kinda sucks
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« Reply #3260 on: November 22, 2012, 12:33:23 AM »


yeah, having portable umvc3 and ngsigma sucks ass. i get angry thinking about how i could be playing kid icarus or pilotwings.

NG Sigma Plus does suck ass, though... dude.

I get what you're saying, but really: No effort or care has been given by developers for the hardware in comparison to the 3DS. You can't really deny that. Don't get me wrong, I love all the ports because I loved all the PSP's ports (outside of crap ports like the Burnout downgrades) but we can't really take that as "strong support" of the system in comparison to the 3DS getting new IPs or new entries in the series instead of ports or downports.


really, you're going to tell me about the quality of Ninja Gaiden ports?  Do go on.  I know about all the major stuff.  The new items are broken, but there aren't any leaderboards, so whatever.  Simple as not using them. The framerate is halved, but the controls are as responsive as any other version, which is kind of amazing (Ninja Theory failed big time at this with DmC.)  Bow aiming sucks and that's the worst part about the port, as it makes the helicopter and tower fights harder than usual.  The reverse wind jump focusing on dead bodies is annoying, but there's a very easy way to adjust to it.

There are some little changes here and there, some nerfs which were surprising...did you pick up on any of those? 

It's still Ninja Gaiden and even in slightly crippled form, it shits from a mountain on any 3DS game that's out or will come out for the rest of its lifespan.  That's not even a fair fight.
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« Reply #3261 on: November 22, 2012, 01:56:20 AM »
I remember  reading somewhere that Sony has a "no ports" stance for the Vita. I'm sure that's not helping its game library.

They can't have that stance and port so much PS3 content to Vita themselves.  :lol

Their goal for Vita was to minimize ports by giving developers a device that runs pretty much every middleware engine imaginable, and telling them they can downscale the assets to easily make a new game which would be more desirable than a port in an attempt to escape a trapping they felt the PSP fell into. The problem is most companies have just straight up ignored Vita, with Ubisoft being the only third party adhering to Sony's dream. Obviously that goal seems unreachable now, and given they're pushing multiplats and others I suspect they just want as much content on Vita as possible and won't really be picky on if it's a port.

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« Reply #3262 on: November 22, 2012, 02:06:37 AM »
That seems like a bad move in hindsight.

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« Reply #3263 on: November 22, 2012, 02:08:38 AM »
The whole "Hey guys, make new games instead of ports!" idea, or the whole backtracking on the idea and trying to get everything they can on the platform?

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« Reply #3264 on: November 22, 2012, 02:13:37 AM »
The "make new games instead of ports" idea seems bad in hindsight, because as you said it just led to not a lot of games being made for the system. As much as people diss on ports, they are an important part of a new system's library.

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« Reply #3265 on: November 22, 2012, 02:46:52 AM »
It was naivety on Sony's part. They knew PSP had a problem with ports, and tried to remedy it by making Vita's hardware something that could handle 3D console games with ease. They also tried avoiding the "PlayStation Portable" moniker by encouraging original titles over ports, in a move seemingly aimed at western studios. What they seemed to neglect was the fact that third party western developers have never really given a shit about handhelds and all they were going to get were ports, and C-team spinoffs from them no matter what.

I agree with you, no matter how much the internet community bitches and whines ports are an important part of a new system's library. Sometimes they help plant the seeds for future original entries in series, but most importantly they are the cheapest and easiest way to ensure a platform doesn't go weeks on end without a new release. The days where nothing comes out for Vita are its worse weeks even if Media Create/NPD/Chart-Track don't say as much. They're the image breakers.

Part of me wonders how much HD Collections have also hurt Vita since handheld ports used to sometimes be the only way old games see the light of day again. Are people really going to buy MGS2/MGS3 on a handheld six months after they rebought it for PS3? Probably not. Imagine how much healthier this thing would be if it got ports of Resident Evil 4, Yakuza 1&2, Kingdom Hearts, and more instead of those going to PS3. Shit, this thing's best seller in Japan is an expanded Persona 4 port, and I guarantee it wouldn't have sold nearly as well on Vita if there was a PS3 counterpart. The worst part is ... Sony popularized the HD Collection and the big Square Enix support is a near vaporware FFX port which would on its own probably would be a big seller, except for the fact it's also coming to PS3.

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« Reply #3266 on: November 22, 2012, 08:55:40 AM »
i will take ports until the bitter end!  i guess i'm just not worried about sales + I haven't played every single video game that has ever released to this day.  i have enough on there to justify the ~$200 i spent on the system + mem card...if I get through it all and the Vita isn't dead, I'll be happy. 

just don't call me a "vitabro" or i'll knife you in an alley

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« Reply #3267 on: November 22, 2012, 09:55:15 AM »
amazon has Lego batman and Lego LotR for $20 a pop right now
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« Reply #3268 on: November 22, 2012, 10:28:50 AM »
Holy fucking sizzling deal batman:

http://www.polygon.com/2012/11/22/3679248/assassins-creed-3-liberation-and-ps-vita-bundle-hitting-amazon-for

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An Assassin's Creed 3 PlayStation Vita bundle is hitting Amazon.com today for $179.99, and will feature a white PS Vita, a 4GB memory card and copy of Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation for the handheld device.

Also included in the Thanksgiving deal is download code for PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale, 30-day code for PlayStation Plus and a $10 Gift Card toward Assassin's Creed 3 on Xbox 360 or PlayStation 3 consoles, an Amazon representative told Polygon.


This follows last week's reveal from Sony regarding an Assassin's Creed 3 Vita bundle including a PlayStation Vita limited Edition white Wifi device, Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation and a 4GB memory card for $199.99.

Assassin's Creed 3: Liberation received a 6 out of 10 from Polygon, stating "Ubisoft's desire to transcend low expectations for handheld spin-offs is clear."

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« Reply #3269 on: November 22, 2012, 11:13:45 AM »
Are there going to be any sales on littlebigplanet Vita this BF?  It's probably the only good Vita game I don't have and would like to play.

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« Reply #3270 on: November 22, 2012, 11:16:48 AM »
That Vita bundle deal is awesome.

I hear Jet Set Radio is super broken on Vita :(

Shut down and reboot the Vita. Same bug happened with the PC/360/PS3 versions of the game.


I had a problem with the game pausing itself immediately as soon as I started playing it.  I quit and restarted the game...haven't had a problem since.  It definitely needs to be patched.
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« Reply #3271 on: November 22, 2012, 11:51:06 AM »
^had that exact same issue.  Thought it had to do with holding down start and pressing the home button, and somehow that broke the game.  No problems after I restarted.

Sine Mora also came out for Vita.  I'll play it on PC if I do, but judging from the demo, the Vita version is pretty great.  I get the sense that it might come to iOS too since there's a "touch" control option.

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« Reply #3272 on: November 22, 2012, 12:47:07 PM »
That Vita deal is really tempting, but my recent experience purchasing a 3DS tells me I should probably just stay away from the new consoles. But DAT SCREEN.

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« Reply #3273 on: November 22, 2012, 12:48:21 PM »
crazy deal...set your alarm clocks.

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« Reply #3274 on: November 22, 2012, 12:48:31 PM »
Vita is VERY tempting as the hardware is plain voodoo magic. DO NOT SUCCUMB.
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« Reply #3275 on: November 22, 2012, 12:55:27 PM »
Vita can play PS2 classics now, right? That means games like Psychonauts, God Hand and Maximo in my goddamn palms. MUST... RESIST...

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« Reply #3276 on: November 22, 2012, 12:56:17 PM »
Vita can play PS2 classics now, right? That means games like Psychonauts, God Hand and Maximo in my goddamn palms. MUST... RESIST...


lol no 

i wonder if it ever will.

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« Reply #3277 on: November 22, 2012, 01:04:38 PM »
Wait seriously!? That was a feature touted at launch! DAMN YOU SONY

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« Reply #3278 on: November 22, 2012, 01:05:41 PM »
You're gonna bail on 3DS for a Vita? You are so fucked, lmfao
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« Reply #3279 on: November 22, 2012, 01:06:56 PM »
There was a tiny chance I'd get one if it could play PS2 classics, but without that feature I'm happy to stick with my last-gen handhelds.

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« Reply #3280 on: November 22, 2012, 01:07:47 PM »
"There's just nothing I want for 3DS. It's all ports and remakes."

"WTF PS2 CLASSIX???!"
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« Reply #3281 on: November 22, 2012, 01:11:55 PM »
Here, I'll clarify that. Regardless of what the games on the 3DS are, be it remakes or ports or whatever, none of them interest me. I can say the same thing for the Vita, it would just be a neat feature to have PS2 games on the go, can't I admit that? "On the go" is not entirely accurate though, because the battery life for both the Vita AND the 3DS is shit.

EDIT: I'd also like to point out that I bought a 3DS XL for $200 with no games, but here is a bundle with a Vita + 2 games for $20 less, that's a great value regardless of my interest in the system.
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« Reply #3282 on: November 22, 2012, 01:40:12 PM »
What games? AC3 and PS All Stars? I'm cumming in my boxer shorts, I'm sure
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« Reply #3283 on: November 22, 2012, 01:42:39 PM »
Wait seriously!? That was a feature touted at launch! DAMN YOU SONY

huh?  I don't remember PS2 support ever being announced.  i'll be happy if i'm wrong though. 

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« Reply #3284 on: November 22, 2012, 01:52:24 PM »
Yeah, I'm pretty sure Sony hasn't mentioned PS2 support.

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« Reply #3285 on: November 22, 2012, 02:08:56 PM »
What games? AC3 and PS All Stars? I'm cumming in my boxer shorts, I'm sure

:lol

Wait seriously!? That was a feature touted at launch! DAMN YOU SONY

huh?  I don't remember PS2 support ever being announced.  i'll be happy if i'm wrong though. 

Maybe it was just something I read on here, but I'll look around and see what I can dig up. I was SURE Vita was getting PS2 at some point, but from what I've found so far it's pretty clear that's not the case.

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« Reply #3286 on: November 22, 2012, 02:10:28 PM »
Vita cant even run Vita games at their fullest. IT would melt and short over a PS2 game.
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« Reply #3287 on: November 22, 2012, 02:13:03 PM »
God I hope I'm still asleep from a food coma during the $179 Vita deal. I don't need the temptation.

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« Reply #3288 on: November 22, 2012, 06:24:56 PM »
That Vita deal is pretty awesome. I think I'll try to get one and then sell (or trade) AC3 and Sony Smash Bros. Between that  Playstation Plus, I could play almost every game I'm interested in for $200 total. :omg
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« Reply #3289 on: November 22, 2012, 08:24:03 PM »
I'm biting on the next good 200$ or less Vita bundle I see. Even if it flops in NA I don't mind importing (hooray for mostly region free).

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« Reply #3290 on: November 22, 2012, 08:34:55 PM »
That Vita deal is pretty awesome. I think I'll try to get one and then sell (or trade) AC3 and Sony Smash Bros. Between that  Playstation Plus, I could play almost every game I'm interested in for $200 total. :omg

just fyi, I think Assassin's Creed Liberation in the bundle is just the cart (no case or anything).  Sony Smash is a digital download code.  I'm sure you can still sell both but it might be a lower price. 

Still a great deal, imo.  Though, a 4 gig card is small for anything but saves.  Uncharted is 3+ Gigs.  If you have a PS3 or PC, you can always backup any downloads that way.

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« Reply #3291 on: November 22, 2012, 09:53:36 PM »
Don't get a Vita in exchange for a 3DS

I am a Vita owner and this shit has nothing. I only play jappy wappy on handhelds and this shit has nothing

unless you want to buy Persona 4 again.

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« Reply #3292 on: November 22, 2012, 11:35:04 PM »
Don't get a Vita in exchange for a 3DS

I am a Vita owner and this shit has nothing. I only play jappy wappy on handhelds and this shit has nothing

unless you want to buy Persona 4 again.

Combine that with the fact that it will probably be gone by 2014 and that Sony will most likely yank the PSN support for the thing shortly after.  Maybe someone will hack into it but I don't see why it would be worth owning one.
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« Reply #3293 on: November 22, 2012, 11:37:29 PM »
Sony still updates the PSP's PlayStation Store in North America every week. They aren't going to yank it from Vita in 2014 even if the thing is discontinued.

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« Reply #3294 on: November 23, 2012, 12:31:06 AM »
not the most awesome deal in the world, but EA vita games seem to be half off on origin. grabbed NFS for 19.99...would have grabbed madden too, but the demo was kinda awful.

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« Reply #3295 on: November 23, 2012, 04:22:04 AM »
Don't get a Vita in exchange for a 3DS

I am a Vita owner and this shit has nothing. I only play jappy wappy on handhelds and this shit has nothing

unless you want to buy Persona 4 again.

Combine that with the fact that it will probably be gone by 2014 and that Sony will most likely yank the PSN support for the thing shortly after.  Maybe someone will hack into it but I don't see why it would be worth owning one.

I was thinking about picking up one of these at a Black Friday sale, but man I'm starting to think it'd be a waste of money considering how sales are DOA and development is MIA. Plus I really don't need ANOTHER portable device, realistically. That being said, I love Persona 4 :(

Maybe I'll just wait until it hits PSP Go close out prices

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« Reply #3296 on: November 23, 2012, 08:38:18 AM »
Don't get a Vita in exchange for a 3DS

I am a Vita owner and this shit has nothing. I only play jappy wappy on handhelds and this shit has nothing

unless you want to buy Persona 4 again.


3DS is the land of milk and honey:

Quote from: North America upcoming games
11/22   North America   Crashmo
11/29   North America   Aero Porter
11/30   North America   Classic Games Overload: Card and Puzzle Edition
12/03   North America   Brain Age: Concentration Training
12/11   North America   Sonic & All-Stars Racing Transformed
12/27   North America   Fluidity: Spin Cycle
02/26   North America   Etrian Odyssey IV: Legends of the Titan
03/19   North America   The Croods: Prehistoric Party!

Vita is dead:
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11/27   Ratchet & Clank: Full Front...
12/04   Uncharted: Fight for Fortune
12/11   Sonic & All-Stars Racing Tr...
02/05   Sly Cooper: Thieves in Time
03/13   Soul Sacrifice


oh wait, ports and backwards compatibility are still better than original 3DS games.   :teehee
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« Reply #3297 on: November 23, 2012, 08:41:10 AM »
Don't get a Vita in exchange for a 3DS

I am a Vita owner and this shit has nothing. I only play jappy wappy on handhelds and this shit has nothing

unless you want to buy Persona 4 again.


3DS is the land of milk and honey:

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8 games

Vita is dead:
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5 games. 2 of which are new IP's. 2 are downports/ports in general and 1 is a card-game spin-off tied to a launch title

I know what you're saying, but come on, dude...

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« Reply #3298 on: November 23, 2012, 09:02:48 AM »
Oh, we're discounting bullshit games?  then chop the 3DS list down to Crashmo and Etrian Odyssey.

and 8 games versus 5 games, totally worth arguing over in hopes that the system you picked edges out the other to justify your purchase :lol  instead of acknowledging that both are weak.

edit: apparently you missed the downports and card games on the 3DS list too.  very GAF.
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« Reply #3299 on: November 23, 2012, 11:06:43 AM »
Both of those release lists are weak, but what else has even been announced for the Vita (serious question)? There's Muramasa, EDF3 and a bad version of a bad version of Ninja Gaiden 2, but that's all I know of. The 3DS may be getting ports too, but at least it has some interesting original games in its future (Ace Attorney 5, SMT4, Fire Emblem, a Treasure game, etc.).

Don't get a Vita in exchange for a 3DS

I am a Vita owner and this shit has nothing. I only play jappy wappy on handhelds and this shit has nothing

unless you want to buy Persona 4 again.

I'm still getting a 3DS, but I figure this Vita deal won't be beaten until Sony starts liquidating them. It already has 7 or 8 games I want to play, so I think it'll be worth it for that price.

And I am looking forward to buying Persona 4 again. I'll probably get that + P4 Arena for Christmas like a true Fatlus. 8)
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