Author Topic: ocarina of time is so good (Read 2529 times)

CurseoftheGods · « **on:** July 04, 2011, 10:00:26 PM »

Sorry if there is another topic (search is borked). Count this as one of those 3D games that truly stood the test of time. Forgot how great the pacing and dungeon design was in this game.

The 3D port is so good that it almost justifies my 3DS purchase.

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Oblivion · « **Reply #1 on:** July 04, 2011, 10:05:22 PM »

Best 3D Zelda.

CurseoftheGods · « **Reply #2 on:** July 04, 2011, 10:07:07 PM »

Agreed.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #3 on:** July 04, 2011, 10:26:25 PM »

I remember going to my friend's house every day to play it, and his little brother telling us the cartridge was truly made of gold.

my favorite game of all time. blah blah camera blah blah cynical bullshit, fuck you. I love everything about the game

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #4 on:** July 04, 2011, 11:37:38 PM »

All the 3D Zeldas pale in comparison to the 2D ones, to me. None of them could do the exploration aspect as good... they usually feel like split up zones and dungeons instead of being cohesive.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:01:45 AM »

game was so good i played it back-to-back like SEVEN times. it still never feels old, even today. PERFECT GAME

someday im gonna do a three-heart challenge, i swear

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:39:21 AM »

I'd love a Link's Awakening remake. Or a 2D Zelda in that vein.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:50:38 AM »

quick search up the top works

and this game still sucks. 2D Zelda or go home

cool breeze · « **Reply #8 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:58:47 AM »

Quote from: BlueTsunami on July 04, 2011, 11:37:38 PM

All the 3D Zeldas pale in comparison to the 2D ones, to me. None of them could do the exploration aspect as good... they usually feel like split up zones and dungeons instead of being cohesive.

Majora's Mask did a good job. And what has been said about Skyward Sword is exciting.

I don't really rank them. Pretty much all 2D and 3D Zelda games tie as my favorite game (with OoT as my favorite, a large part due to nostalgia). The only two disappointing Zelda games are both on the DS. If you left the dungeons and took out everything else, Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks would be alright. As they are you put up with a lot of bad design to play them. Most of your time is spent riding on a train in Spirit Tracks, hardly controlling anything as you travel at an agonizingly slow speed.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #9 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:23:29 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 05, 2011, 01:02:04 AM

filth these lepers

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TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #10 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:33:41 AM »

Ocarina of Time is a hallmark of the Zelda franchise, but it is unfortunately a 1998 game that people are still proclaiming as the best gaming experience yet, 13 years later. What they should be noting is the importance and the influence it had on the industry and its acclaim, rather than still holding on to a sad and incorrect belief that has gameplay and design choices that surpass games the came after it.

One of my favorite games of all time, because of what it meant to me. Not because I think it's better than most games these days, not just the latest Zeldas.

Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess all are better as a whole, regardless of their faults.

Oblivion · « **Reply #11 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:40:57 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 05, 2011, 01:33:41 AM

Ocarina of Time is a hallmark of the Zelda franchise, but it is unfortunately a 1998 game that people are still proclaiming as the best gaming experience yet, 13 years later. What they should be noting is the importance and the influence it had on the industry and its acclaim, rather than still holding on to a sad and incorrect belief that has gameplay and design choices that surpass games the came after it.

One of my favorite games of all time, because of what it meant to me. Not because I think it's better than most games these days, not just the latest Zeldas.

Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess all are better as a whole, regardless of their faults.

Ah, you were doing so well until you got to this part, BN.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:06:06 AM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on July 05, 2011, 01:23:29 AM

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 05, 2011, 01:02:04 AM
filth these lepers

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BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #13 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:12:38 AM »

oracle games

minish cap

capcom zelda

BobFromPikeCreek · « **Reply #14 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:14:25 AM »

phantom hourglass

spirit tracks

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #15 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:19:46 AM »

Quote from: Oblivion on July 05, 2011, 01:40:57 AM

Quote from: BrandNew on July 05, 2011, 01:33:41 AM
Ocarina of Time is a hallmark of the Zelda franchise, but it is unfortunately a 1998 game that people are still proclaiming as the best gaming experience yet, 13 years later. What they should be noting is the importance and the influence it had on the industry and its acclaim, rather than still holding on to a sad and incorrect belief that has gameplay and design choices that surpass games the came after it.

One of my favorite games of all time, because of what it meant to me. Not because I think it's better than most games these days, not just the latest Zeldas.

Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess all are better as a whole, regardless of their faults.

Ah, you were doing so well until you got to this part, BN.

They are though, simply because of the development and maturity of the teams that handled those games. Majora's Mask was a perfectly concise title with incredible sidequests (its main gimmick), Wind Waker was a beautifully designed game with great advancements in composition and storytelling, and Twilight Princess took elements of current gen gaming and its predecessors to create the ultimate dungeon crawling experience. Ocarina of Time is a concise Zelda game that unfortunately shows its "keep it simple, stupid" puzzle/design elements that each game has progressively improved upon. It's not necessarily a fault, its just a fact of time. Ten years ago the game would obviously be looked upon more fondly, but the fact of the matter is that the design has gotten more sophisticated. You can't argue that.

cool breeze · « **Reply #16 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:22:33 AM »

I can make a case for why Wind Waker might not be as good as OoT. I won't, but still.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #17 on:** July 05, 2011, 02:30:21 AM »

Hey, I can understand people's views as to why Wind Waker isn't as good – go ahead and make your case!

But Twilight Princess is very obviously better.

Himu · « **Reply #18 on:** July 05, 2011, 03:11:16 AM »

People keep saying TP is so "obviously" better than OoT and I have yet to see any examples other than "exploration" when TP had shit sidequests and shit exploration.

Also, 2d Zelda fegs lol

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #19 on:** July 05, 2011, 03:19:25 AM »

TP may be marginally better then OOT by 2011 standards, if you excuse the horrid opening (which you really shouldn't). But if you judge both games compared to their peers at the time then OOT is still a timeless classic forever to be remembered and TP is a 7/10 or 8/10 game.

OOT: Open world on a scale that hadn't been done on consoles, cutting edge graphics, took the series and adventure gaming into 3D in a big way, great music that people still remember. Nothing really compareable on consoles, generational leap in gaming.

TP: Outdated SD graphics by the time it came out, no new ideas or innovations just building on OOT, horrible opening hours compared to modern games, great dungeons (so I heard???).

TP didnt have any of the WOW factor that OOT had when it launched, unless you were already a fan of Zelda. It was overshadowed by new classics that launched around it.

Diunx · « **Reply #20 on:** July 05, 2011, 09:23:51 AM »

A link to the past and minish cap are better.

Himu · « **Reply #21 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:36:00 AM »

minish cap

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #22 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:54:58 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on July 05, 2011, 01:33:41 AM

Ocarina of Time is a hallmark of the Zelda franchise, but it is unfortunately a 1998 game that people are still proclaiming as the best gaming experience yet, 13 years later. What they should be noting is the importance and the influence it had on the industry and its acclaim, rather than still holding on to a sad and incorrect belief that has gameplay and design choices that surpass games the came after it.

One of my favorite games of all time, because of what it meant to me. Not because I think it's better than most games these days, not just the latest Zeldas.

Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess all are better as a whole, regardless of their faults.

Wind Waker is even more trapped in 1998, thanks to its fetch quest. It didn't change much else from OoT, not for the better at least.

Agreed on MM and TP

bork · « **Reply #23 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:55:06 AM »

I need to play Minish Cap. Got stuck in the beginning a long time ago and never went back.

Nothing beats LttP and Link's Awakening though.

Himu · « **Reply #24 on:** July 05, 2011, 11:26:08 AM »

What Wrath said.

That said, I love all of the 3d console Zelda's, unlike 2d Zelda, which fluctuates in quality from game to game.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #25 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:22:16 PM »

Oh man, the "favorite Zelda" discussion is almost as terrible as "rate your favorite FFs."

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BlueTsunami · « **Reply #26 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:22:27 PM »

I remember loving Minish Cap

World felt organic and a lot of inaccessible spots that you revisit later

Himu · « **Reply #27 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:25:51 PM »

Quote from: Shah Rukh Khan on July 05, 2011, 12:22:16 PM

Oh man, the "favorite Zelda" discussion is almost as terrible as "rate your favorite FFs."

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i'm going to fuck you in the ear

magus · « **Reply #28 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:10:35 PM »

Quote from: Shah Rukh Khan on July 05, 2011, 12:22:16 PM

Oh man, the "favorite Zelda" discussion is almost as terrible as "rate your favorite FFs."

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i was almost tempted to make the "Final Fantasy thread about Final Fantasy" and then put just some number at casuals but i didn't want to overdo the joke

cool breeze · « **Reply #29 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:13:42 PM »

Quote from: AdmiralViscen on July 05, 2011, 10:54:58 AM

Quote from: BrandNew on July 05, 2011, 01:33:41 AM
Ocarina of Time is a hallmark of the Zelda franchise, but it is unfortunately a 1998 game that people are still proclaiming as the best gaming experience yet, 13 years later. What they should be noting is the importance and the influence it had on the industry and its acclaim, rather than still holding on to a sad and incorrect belief that has gameplay and design choices that surpass games the came after it.

One of my favorite games of all time, because of what it meant to me. Not because I think it's better than most games these days, not just the latest Zeldas.

Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess all are better as a whole, regardless of their faults.

Wind Waker is even more trapped in 1998, thanks to its fetch quest. It didn't change much else from OoT, not for the better at least.

Agreed on MM and TP

That, and oddly, some of the weaker elements of OoT were supercharged in Wind Waker.

Barren overworld? here's an ocean! Easy combat? here's an insta-win counter attack! Lame stealth section? more stealth! etc.
(I actually liked sailing, and you did run across more interesting landmarks like the Ghost Ship and whatnot, but still) it's not the clear winner like Twilight Princess.

oh, and remember when people on gaf were saying Phantom Hourglass was the best Zelda game or something along those lines? self potato

Himu · « **Reply #30 on:** July 05, 2011, 04:17:10 PM »

That was sporsk and jgaf, to be accurate. jgaf always has shit taste.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #31 on:** July 05, 2011, 07:28:55 PM »

Sprsk is always right.
Phantom Hourglass is an awesome zelda.
Sin and Punishment 2 is the best starfox game by a mile.
etc. etc.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #32 on:** July 05, 2011, 07:32:05 PM »

I just vomited in my mouth
etc. etc.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #33 on:** July 05, 2011, 07:59:15 PM »

E> Sprsk never vomits or pees or poopsies <3

Himu · « **Reply #34 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:07:57 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on July 05, 2011, 07:28:55 PM

Sprsk is always right.
Phantom Hourglass is an awesome zelda.
Sin and Punishment 2 is the best starfox game by a mile.
etc. etc.

SP2 is not a Starfox game you uncultured swine, it is a rail shooter, a genre that existed before Starfox.

Why have Nintendo fans ruined this sacred genre? First calling games like House of the Dead rail shooters and now this.

Please get games away from Nintendo freaks, PLEASE.

magus · « **Reply #35 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:10:43 PM »

ehy guys! i found a replacement for the buttlick jpg for when ign give 10/10 to skyward sword

Himu · « **Reply #36 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:12:20 PM »

He's saving that move for when he captures Zelda

pro-pussy licker

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #37 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:16:34 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on July 05, 2011, 08:07:57 PM

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on July 05, 2011, 07:28:55 PM
Sprsk is always right.
Phantom Hourglass is an awesome zelda.
Sin and Punishment 2 is the best starfox game by a mile.
etc. etc.

SP2 is not a Starfox game you uncultured swine, it is a rail shooter, a genre that existed before Starfox.

Why have Nintendo fans ruined this sacred genre? First calling games like House of the Dead rail shooters and now this.

Please get games away from Nintendo freaks, PLEASE.

Holy shit Himuro. Way to misinterpret what I said and come off as a pissy dweeb. I'm aware of the rail shooter genre, I was simply agreeing with Sprsk that SP2 is better than any starfox game in existence.

Himu · « **Reply #38 on:** July 05, 2011, 09:30:55 PM »

Sorry, sporsk makes me turn into a pissy dweeb. He just does that.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #39 on:** July 05, 2011, 09:41:09 PM »

Sprsk seems like a semi-charismatic guy on the 8-4 podcast. Jgaf members in general have some prestige for being able to tell us previews of games waiting to come over. They can also provide insight on the trends and politics of japanese gaming, being in the midst of it.

I don't care for duckroll, although I'm not sure if he is jgaf rrally.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #40 on:** July 05, 2011, 09:48:27 PM »

He committed a lot of atrocities back in the day. No semi-charisma on a podcast would ever wash that bitter taste away. He's been keeping a low profile lately, so I don't think anyone gives a crap about him anymore, outside of the the podcast subscribers.

Never forget.

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EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #41 on:** July 05, 2011, 09:50:26 PM »

I was waiting for that picture!

sprsk

Weeaboo Ninthing King

Himu · « **Reply #42 on:** July 05, 2011, 11:53:14 PM »

You're an exception, buddy. I like Duckroll's taste too but he's not a part of jgaf. You're not even a gaf poster anymore.

Himu · « **Reply #43 on:** July 06, 2011, 04:10:29 AM »

Quote from: Borys on July 06, 2011, 04:03:36 AM

You both have... peculiar gaming tastes. Himu is just more often following the flock like a dumb sheep while Oscar plays the "top hat" card.

Would play any game you both recommend without any hesistation, tho.

Uhhh

Diunx · « **Reply #44 on:** July 06, 2011, 09:24:16 AM »

Just looking at spork you can tell that people used to beat the shit out of him at school.

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Author Topic: ocarina of time is so good (Read 2529 times)