Author Topic: No Lollipop Chainsaw thread yet? (Grasshopper) (Read 9530 times)

pilonv1 · « **on:** July 20, 2011, 09:35:11 PM »

http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/07/21/lollipop_chainsaw_screens/

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1. Zombies first appear in Juliet's school on her 18th birthday. Don't worry -- it's totally okay to take a peek!

2. Juliet is a cheerleader at her school.

3. Juliet's school, San Romero Highschool, is located on the West Coast (that would be of America, I believe) and is the largest school in the region.

4. Juliet's chainsaw is full of pink because pink is her favorite color.

5. By reaching certain conditions you can make Juliet's chainsaw power up, gaining new skills.)

Looks ... interesting

Himu · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2011, 09:36:42 PM »

i don't think suda will ever make a killer 7-ish game ever again

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2011, 09:40:24 PM »

I haven't played a good Grasshopper game yet. Contact was close!

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2011, 09:41:08 PM »

We've been talking about it in the Random Gaming thread.

Looks wacky jappy. I like wacky jappy.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2011, 09:46:21 PM »

I should have checked that thread

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2011, 09:50:52 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on July 20, 2011, 09:46:21 PM

I should have checked that thread

Nah, it's cool. We never bothered posting scans or anything.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2011, 10:14:18 PM »

looks terrible, end Japan

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #7 on:** July 20, 2011, 10:17:01 PM »

ps3 only?

Bebpo · « **Reply #8 on:** July 20, 2011, 10:17:11 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on July 20, 2011, 09:36:42 PM

i don't think suda will ever make a killer 7-ish game ever again

I don't think Suda will ever direct a game again.

His "executive director" games are fun, but they're never as good as the games he hand directed himself. But now grasshopper's too big and he's too busy running it to direct games anymore.

Oh and I want to add a $.02 about what happened to Grasshopper: While Yamaoka is amazing and I love his work and am glad he's going to be making A LOT of music. I don't like this idea that he is the only composer for every Grasshopper game from here on out (Shadows of the Damned, Eva 3nd Impact, Sudatcher, Lolipop Chainsaw). I say this for 2 reasons. 1) I liked Masafumi Takada (dunno if I spelled his name right), and I'd like him to score more grasshopper stuff and 2) it's better to have variety within a studio and have several composers to cover all the projects. I'd be thrilled if Takada and Yamaoka switched off between games and did ~50/50 of the soundtracks. I don't want Yamaoka to become like Sakuraba.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 20, 2011, 10:33:33 PM »

Quote from: The Worst Poster Ever on July 20, 2011, 10:17:01 PM

ps3 only?

no, both

demi · « **Reply #10 on:** July 20, 2011, 11:25:32 PM »

most game music is only good for one or two songs anyway. doesnt matter who does it, yamaoka or anyone.

except Sekito. his music is da bomb. Sekito > YAmaoka

Bebpo · « **Reply #11 on:** July 20, 2011, 11:28:47 PM »

I don't know Sekito much. I mean he's done a few games I've played and the music is good, but he's never stuck out to me. Maybe when I play Last Remnant for realz, I'll fall in love with the ost.

For me: Mitsuda (who doesn't do game music anymore besides Inazuma

), Meguro, Yamaoka, Uematsu (kind of retired), Shimomura are the major composers I care about these days. I'd put Go Shiina if he ever scored another rpg like Legendia (God Eater is not an rpg!)

demi · « **Reply #12 on:** July 20, 2011, 11:32:00 PM »

Meguro is good, when its not disgusting j-crap. Shimomura falls under the same tree as Sakuraba. Same-y, but safe to listen to.

Bebpo · « **Reply #13 on:** July 20, 2011, 11:44:42 PM »

A lot of her stuff is same-y, but when she tries she has really good songs like the main KH themes and the XIII Versus theme. Versus soundtrack will be amazing.

Bebpo · « **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2011, 12:07:18 AM »

I'm ok with same-y when all her serious (aka non-whimsical) songs sound like this:

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bork · « **Reply #15 on:** July 21, 2011, 11:47:34 AM »

Hope it's fun. Also, for a game with CHAINSAW in the title, there's no gore to be found in those screenshots. Purple-pink-sparkly effects instead. Weird.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #16 on:** July 21, 2011, 11:49:35 AM »

Roxas' theme :'(

Bebpo · « **Reply #17 on:** July 21, 2011, 12:14:17 PM »

Quote from: lyte edge on July 21, 2011, 11:47:34 AM

Hope it's fun. Also, for a game with CHAINSAW in the title, there's no gore to be found in those screenshots. Purple-pink-sparkly effects instead. Weird.

Eh, don't really need gore in games unless you're making a FoTNS or Berserk game. I thought the Japanese NMH with people disintegrating into pixels was even more effective than the gore in the international version.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #18 on:** July 21, 2011, 03:57:25 PM »

Hamauzu is still my favorite game composer, more recently I thought Mitsuto Suzuki's 3rd Birthday soundtrack was pretty great.

jiji · « **Reply #19 on:** July 21, 2011, 06:59:57 PM »

Looks like Simple 2000 with a budget. Which means, of course, I will buy it. Praise based Suda

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #20 on:** July 21, 2011, 07:08:29 PM »

Quote from: jiji on July 21, 2011, 06:59:57 PM

Looks like Simple 2000 with a budget. Which means, of course, I will buy it. Praise based Suda

Simple 2000

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #21 on:** July 21, 2011, 07:15:22 PM »

video games

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #22 on:** July 21, 2011, 08:38:33 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on July 21, 2011, 08:32:40 PM

Grasshopper will never make a game that comes close to Killer7 again.

NMH

Killer 7 : The Invisibles :: No More Heroes : Mark Millar's Nemesis

Himu · « **Reply #23 on:** July 21, 2011, 08:41:22 PM »

Killer 7 is a classic and amazing game. Grasshopper hasn't a game nearly as good since. I was hoping Shadows of the Damned would be that game but that game is too light on content and lacks K7's overall punch. Still better than both NMH's put together, though.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #24 on:** July 21, 2011, 09:26:39 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on July 21, 2011, 07:08:29 PM

Quote from: jiji on July 21, 2011, 06:59:57 PM
Looks like Simple 2000 with a budget. Which means, of course, I will buy it. Praise based Suda

Simple 2000

They were so awesome, 505 Games re-released them in Europe.

Party Girls was my favourite

It was like DOAX without any pretention of what it was.

jiji · « **Reply #25 on:** July 21, 2011, 09:49:50 PM »

I don't think DOAX ever had pretense. Only its fans (and US marketing).

pilonv1 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 21, 2011, 09:51:03 PM »

Yes but this had even less pretense than DOAX

Himu · « **Reply #27 on:** July 21, 2011, 09:54:59 PM »

doax owned

Bebpo · « **Reply #28 on:** July 21, 2011, 11:51:31 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on July 21, 2011, 08:41:22 PM

Killer 7 is a classic and amazing game. Grasshopper hasn't a game nearly as good since. I was hoping Shadows of the Damned would be that game but that game is too light on content and lacks K7's overall punch. Still better than both NMH's put together, though.

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The first No More Heroes is a classic. It's not quite as good as Killer 7 in the same way that SoTC is not quite as a good as Ico, but it's one of the most original games out there. Some many creative encounters and tons of great nods to film culture.

Sequel was terrible though. But that's what happens when Suda doesn't direct.

Himu · « **Reply #29 on:** July 22, 2011, 12:49:01 AM »

No More Heroes was inane and repetitive game design with a shitty world map with a bad sense of humor. It was okay, hardly awful but I'll never understand the adulation that game has received and I was really pumped to play it. No More Heroes puts an emphasis on story in a bad way, making the game design come a far distant second in terms of emphasis. Killer 7 blended story with gameplay beautifully, was varied up the ass in terms of level design, featured an amazing cast, great boss fights, and was light on the stupid toilet humor (which I admittedly like in SotD).

Shadows of the Damned has more personality and better game principles than No More Heroes. It's simply the better game. I also prefer "dark" Grasshopper Manufacture games like K7 and SotD. NMH is fucking boring in comparison.

Bebpo · « **Reply #30 on:** July 22, 2011, 12:57:40 AM »

SoTD plays like a crappy C-tier game just like NMH and K7, the only difference is that it's easy as pie so there aren't frustrating parts that usually stem from shitty grasshopper gameplay. But SoTD's story and characters and cutscenes, while alright, pale in comparison to K7 and NMH. NMH had so many classic moments: The train ride where you fall asleep and it becomes a shmup, the giant cannon mini-game, HENRY, the boss who dies before you even fight him, the darth vader final boss, shinbu ninja, mine girl at the beach, every boss in NMH was fairly creative and original and the whole concept of moving up in this world of assassins was a fresh structure and because every boss was unique you looked forward to the next one. The only thing that really sucked in NMH was grinding jobs between boss stages. NMH2 had slightly better mini-games but 90% of the bosses were lame.

Bebpo · « **Reply #31 on:** July 22, 2011, 12:59:14 AM »

Oh and the true bonus ending which was amazingly boss DUAL BROTHERS, JUMP AT EACH OTHER AND SLASHHHHHHH TO THE CREDITS WITH ROCKING MUSIC. Now that's how you end a game!

Himu · « **Reply #32 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:00:52 AM »

SotD does not in any way play like a crappy C-tier game. That game controls like aces. Third person shooters really do benefit from the 180 turn and the light/dark set up is far more interesting, mechanically, than mindlessly killing a bunch of nobodies. At least in Musou I can level up and have an rts mixed up with an rpg! NMH is flawed up the ass and like many "art" game it seems to be doing this on purpose.

Himu · « **Reply #33 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:13:56 AM »

K7 is hardly for artfags. I find K7 far more fun than NMH. Characters with different abilities and strengths? Different enemy types which force you to use your ENTIRE character list depending on who you're fighting, sometimes in the very same fight? Every level having a completely different objective? Resident Evil like puzzles? Huge levels with multiple routes? A robust (for the type of game it is) character customization system? Higher than average difficulty?

It's clear what the better game is.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #34 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:14:16 AM »

no more heroes was almost too ugly to play

Bebpo · « **Reply #35 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:28:46 AM »

Yeah, see I have no qualms about seeing Grasshopper games for what they are, jank ass gameplay that's barely above (or sometimes not) simple 2000 series gameplay, but everything else in the game is awesome and you play them for the craziness and creativity and overall fun love of video game/movie/anime culture. But the gameplay sucks and will always suck and you just deal with it. I've never enjoyed the gameplay much in any of suda's games, but I've enjoyed the experiences a heck of a lot. Killer 7 was A+, but it would've been just as good if you hit A and the game played itself as you watched.

Himu · « **Reply #36 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:28:55 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 22, 2011, 01:22:52 AM

sorry man, killer 7 reeks of artfaggery from every pore

every fucking pore

which is not uncommon for suda51 games but that one is probably the one that is most up its ass, aside from maybe flower sun and rain

if you want to know what kind of -cigarillo a suda51 game is, just insert the excuse the fans use to make up for its awful gameplay

bubububu it's art

bubububu it's just fun

bububu i have brain damage and like games that play like shit

Sorry, I can't read what you're writing.

It's all a blur.

Bebpo · « **Reply #37 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:31:19 AM »

Quote from: Borys on July 22, 2011, 01:27:07 AM

And people wonder why Suda 51 or other japafreak games sell 15 000 while western Call of Duty moves 20 000 000 units.

Japanese gaming industry slide into irrevelancy continues uninterrupted since OG Xbox launched. The void is near. Soon the only positives about Nippon games will be FF and DQ.

Japan still makes good games Borys

Suda games are not a good example of "great Japanese gaming", and there's no way anyone should expect Suda games to ever sell more than about 50-100k max. People like fun, polished products. They don't like janky budget games with wacky jappy humor.

Now Vanquish, that was a tragedy. A++ gameplay, and great everything all around, but bomba bomba bomba.

Bebpo · « **Reply #38 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:32:36 AM »

I should add that I still love Grasshopper stuff even if I rail on their gameplay. Whenever a new Grasshopper game comes out I drop all my 50 million budget polished games and play the latest grasshopper game for a week and usually enjoy it unless they are NMH2.

Himu · « **Reply #39 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:35:32 AM »

I maintain that Killer 7 is a great game and don't understand why people call it janky or whatever when they pimp pre-RE4 Resident Evil. Just felt like Resident Evil type game to me. Kill enemies, solve puzzles, explore neat locales, do cool shit.

What's janky about it? That you have to stop and shoot enemies?

It's in my top 5 favorite games from last generation and the story is only one reason why it is.

Certainly better than games like Ico or Shadow of the Colossus.

Bebpo · « **Reply #40 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:37:35 AM »

Let's not get too crazy here.

Oh wait, we already have.

this thread

cool breeze · « **Reply #41 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:57:50 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 22, 2011, 01:22:52 AM

sorry man, killer 7 reeks of artfaggery from every pore

every fucking pore

which is not uncommon for suda51 games but that one is probably the one that is most up its ass, aside from maybe flower sun and rain

if you want to know what kind of -cigarillo a suda51 game is, just insert the excuse the fans use to make up for its awful gameplay

bubububu it's art

bubububu it's just fun

bububu i have brain damage and like games that play like shit

this is relevantly hilarious because I recently saw someone defending No More Heroes Wii graphics by calling it 'punk' and 'raw'

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #42 on:** July 22, 2011, 04:05:42 AM »

SotD is a slightly above average action game at best, and the least interesting of all Grasshopper games. Boring boss fights; uninspired, generic locales; weaponry that never rises above clichéd genre tropes. Unexciting. I'd expect this kind of game from middling western studio, but from one of the most creative Japanese development houses? Disappointed. The last thing we want from our j-devs is to cater to what they perceive as western tastes.

Great dialogue, though.

Herr Mafflard · « **Reply #43 on:** July 22, 2011, 04:21:11 AM »

Mikami could turn his hand to a baby rattle simulator and make a deep, mechanically satisfying game.

chronovore · « **Reply #44 on:** July 22, 2011, 05:57:26 AM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on July 22, 2011, 04:22:57 AM

ramen's from china ya ignorant pole

That's arguable.

I mean, Japanese people will tell you that ramen is Chinese food, but Chinese people will tell you that the Japanese have changed it to their own tastes so much that it's nothing like the noodles-in-bone-based-soup to be found in China.

For that matter, the farce that passes for "pizza" in most Japanese stores could be considered its own original food -- an inferior reinterpretation along the lines of... I dunno, "Indian Superman"... It looks like Superman, but it ain't super, man.
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chronovore · « **Reply #45 on:** July 22, 2011, 06:27:11 AM »

Yeah, except I like ramen and dislike chuuka-soba and the noodle-soups I've had at Chinese places. So... unless there is an accepted and specific alternate naming, "ramen is from Japan."

chronovore · « **Reply #46 on:** July 22, 2011, 07:26:54 AM »

OK, yeah. I've never heard "Coffee is from Canada," but I've heard plenty of people say that "pizza is actually American" -- due to deep-dish, super-thin-crust, and dual-crust variations.

Bu-bu-but, still -- I guess I'll have to concede this, and just say "I love Japanese ramen, but don't like Chinese ramen." Oddly, I like Chinese pot-stickers more than Japanese gyoza.

jiji · « **Reply #47 on:** July 22, 2011, 10:21:59 AM »

K7 is a terrible game and a great multimedia presentation. I think that means that I like it.

demi · « **Reply #48 on:** July 22, 2011, 10:25:17 AM »

Quote from: Borys on July 22, 2011, 04:12:20 AM

Vanquish

The best thing to come from Japan since ramen.

dumbass

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #49 on:** July 22, 2011, 11:06:23 AM »

No, I'm gonna keep kicking this can of bees.

Oscar, I can't believe you're so anti-K7

One of my top 5 games game of the GC/Xbox/PS2 generation

It's awesome and amazing! You are wronnnnnnng

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #50 on:** July 22, 2011, 11:47:15 AM »

YOU'RE FFFFFFFFFFFFFUCKED

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #51 on:** July 22, 2011, 12:03:54 PM »

Let's all enjoy the Killer 7 reload animations in slow motion!

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Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #52 on:** July 22, 2011, 12:07:48 PM »

also, ramen is from Japan~

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #53 on:** July 22, 2011, 01:32:41 PM »

Maybe Oscar should read this 50,000 word story FAQ, then he'll realize how cool Killer 7 is. Oscar are you reading that? Are you ready to repent?? Because we're not leaving this thread until you agree that K7 is cool, man.

PLOT SPOILERS

spoiler (click to show/hide)

The hotel where you find out how each of the Smiths met their end is one of my favorite game sequences - the creepy revelation of how the Smiths' were betrayed, and the horrible symbolism of how each of the Smiths' powers are derived directly from the gruesome way in which they were murdered. it's awesomely powerful.

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And while that plot FAQ goes a wee bit overboard, the best part about Killer 7 IS how its plot works on videogame, personal, political, and metaphysical levels. IT'S SOME SERIOUSLY BUDDHIST SHIT, MAN

Himu · « **Reply #54 on:** July 22, 2011, 02:07:03 PM »

I thought K7 was fun

I love that game

Himu · « **Reply #55 on:** July 22, 2011, 02:11:41 PM »

I think oscar needs to justifying NMH being "fun" more than anything else.

Himu · « **Reply #56 on:** July 22, 2011, 02:25:02 PM »

you said it's for funfags!

Trent Dole · « **Reply #57 on:** July 22, 2011, 03:07:51 PM »

NMH is good times.

Still need to play my copy of Killer 7...

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #58 on:** July 22, 2011, 03:29:48 PM »

Aside from the stupid mini-games, I liked NMH. I also played the PS3 version so I didn't have to deal with waggle.

magus · « **Reply #59 on:** July 22, 2011, 03:35:41 PM »

no more heroes is just a really bland action game,there are a bunch of goons,they block high,you attack low,they block low,you attack high,the girl calls,she blabs something about "the garden of eden",then you fight a boss which attacks constantly until he drops his guard for 3 seconds and then you repeat all of it until you finish the game

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Author Topic: No Lollipop Chainsaw thread yet? (Grasshopper) (Read 9530 times)