Author Topic: Sony TGS 2011 Conference of Lowered Expectations (Read 19301 times)

Bebpo · « **Reply #240 on:** September 14, 2011, 07:55:55 PM »

Nomura is sad

Damian79 · « **Reply #241 on:** September 14, 2011, 07:57:26 PM »

I got to say if this doesnt revive RR nothing will.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #242 on:** September 14, 2011, 08:05:01 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on September 14, 2011, 07:55:55 PM

Nomura is sad

Nomura is sad.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #243 on:** September 14, 2011, 08:06:08 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 14, 2011, 06:45:28 AM

There is no market for a handheld gaming device aimed primarily at adult hardcore gamers in North America. None. What little there was has been eaten by smartphones.

I like how they've tried to get around this by giving you the same experiences as smart phones and home consoles without any of the advantages.

So if I get a Vita I'm getting Minna No Golf and Ridge Racer at launch. This feels so fresh

Bebpo · « **Reply #244 on:** September 14, 2011, 08:08:48 PM »

Quote from: Damian79 on September 14, 2011, 07:57:26 PM

I got to say if this doesnt revive RR nothing will.

Doesn't that belong in the Flatout-no-it's-really-ridge-racer thread?

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #245 on:** September 14, 2011, 08:12:11 PM »

I'm still down for getting a Vita.

I don't think there is a question that this thing will bomb. I'm just in it for the PS2/PS3 era ports that I missed out on or haven't played for a while and I'm sure Falcom will put out a few good titles. The PSP is chock full of underappreciated gems and if Vita is even half of what the PSP resulted in in terms of quality late stage software, I'll have no problem with the Vita.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #246 on:** September 14, 2011, 09:13:06 PM »

news on battery, memory and 3G pricing has pushed this out to 'hardware revamp' stage for me I think. I like the idea of Ninja Gaiden Sigma on a handheld though

Positive Touch · « **Reply #247 on:** September 14, 2011, 10:29:11 PM »

the best news in this thread is that i've finally found someone who also enjoys dirge of cerberus

Damian79 · « **Reply #248 on:** September 14, 2011, 10:37:25 PM »

Anyoen else watching the secod sony conferece or whatever?

Himu · « **Reply #249 on:** September 14, 2011, 10:41:30 PM »

why don't you link damian?

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #250 on:** September 14, 2011, 10:41:30 PM »

Quote from: Damian79 on September 14, 2011, 10:37:25 PM

Anyoen else watching the secod sony conferece or whatever?

No live stream, just live blogging. And it looks like this is the event where they're actually showing games. Fucking Sony, mang.

Here's the live blog...

http://kotaku.com/5840486/all-about-playstation-vita-from-tokyo-games-show-2011

Damian79 · « **Reply #251 on:** September 14, 2011, 10:44:42 PM »

http://tgs.playstation.jp/

Damian79 · « **Reply #252 on:** September 14, 2011, 10:47:49 PM »

Must be different thing.

cool breeze · « **Reply #253 on:** September 14, 2011, 10:57:46 PM »

they announced remote play for it. not totally confirmed, but sounding like any PS3 game can be streamed and played on the Vita. supposedly they showed Killzone 3.

PSP remote play only worked with specific games like Bionic Commando Rearmed and Lair

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #254 on:** September 14, 2011, 11:00:00 PM »

PSP Remote play on the PS3 was pure shite. Hopefully this is a little more polished and not just a neat.jpg bullet point

cool breeze · « **Reply #255 on:** September 14, 2011, 11:00:20 PM »

Little King's Story
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Tales of Innocence R
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Army Cops of Hell / Japan makes Overlord
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Lords of Apocalypse
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pilonv1 · « **Reply #256 on:** September 14, 2011, 11:54:59 PM »

boy this wont get confusing

Raban · « **Reply #257 on:** September 15, 2011, 01:12:31 AM »

Is that case template going to be used in the US too? So blue.

Himu · « **Reply #258 on:** September 15, 2011, 01:13:41 AM »

i never thought i'd see the day sony would use carts for a game system

the world is over

we're done

cool breeze · « **Reply #259 on:** September 15, 2011, 01:39:45 AM »

the case is supposedly around the same size as a DS case (thinner but slightly taller)

also, in addition to remote play, they showed off Wii U functionality with the Vita acting as a controller for the PS3.

I'm guessing backpad is used for L2/3 and R2/3

chronovore · « **Reply #260 on:** September 15, 2011, 02:13:58 AM »

Quote from: Linkzg on September 13, 2011, 11:45:56 PM

yeah I'm not buying these games twice. so many ports.

unless MGS HD Edition means MGS1

But that's why it's the PlayStation Port-able...

Wait... That's why it's the PlayStation Vita-able...

I got nothin'.

Bebpo · « **Reply #261 on:** September 15, 2011, 02:27:56 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on September 15, 2011, 01:13:41 AM

i never thought i'd see the day sony would use carts for a game system

the world is over

we're done

Not having to hack the system to get short loadtimes = winnn

magus · « **Reply #262 on:** September 15, 2011, 05:08:58 AM »

the vita is not even out and they are already making lame monster hunter wannabe

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #263 on:** September 15, 2011, 08:22:21 AM »

Two days later and I'm still boggled by their memory stick prices.

I know that I'm going to buy 3 instead of 1 down the road, but the issue goes beyond of what I'm personally able to afford; DD adoption will be considerably smaller compared to a scenario where they pack one (even a measly 2 giger). This will ultimately screw pubs and devs, especially indies, thus harming the overall support and digital business. I just don't understand it. It goes against what this device is supposed to stand for.

I know all the usual excuses for propriety route, but realistically speaking, how much cost or security concerns would equipping the Vita with a 2GB internal flash memory actually cause? The Gopher had 16!

BlueTsunami · « **Reply #264 on:** September 15, 2011, 08:32:22 AM »

I guess its dependent on how fast the SDHC card is but, on average, they seemed to be priced at $50 for a 32GB card. I'm sure you could get a 64GB SDHC card cheaper than what Sony has priced their 32GB card. Such a large markup must really help with that Vita price point.

chronovore · « **Reply #265 on:** September 15, 2011, 08:36:17 AM »

Bingo.

Making hardware, apparently adding even 50¢ to the base hardware cost can bring the retail cost up into a whole different bracket.

maxy · « **Reply #266 on:** September 15, 2011, 08:38:02 AM »

Quote

Two days later and I'm still boggled by their memory stick prices.

It has some internal memory(firmware),larger chip(s) would make board larger and that affects everything.Not to mention the money they can get from selling standalone cards(retailers too)
Probably a combination of both.

Big mistake for a "next gen" portable

if they want to sell dd content they absolutely need standardized storage solution.

No doubt that here will be revision with inbuilt storage,but still...bad bad bad

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #267 on:** September 15, 2011, 08:54:26 AM »

Yeah, I'm sure it has everything to do with keeping production costs down, recouping hardware losses and/or getting profits off the Vita business. I haven't considered the possibility of board size or distribution or space, though.

I guess it all comes down to how fast the costs of the system goes down, as I can't see them budging on stick prices before then. Considering the internals of Vita, it shouldn't take as long as their previous devices. I just hope it goes down fast enough before it causes much harm.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #268 on:** September 15, 2011, 09:41:11 AM »

yeah, that's the one thing nintendo did right with the 3ds, they knew they were gonna be pumping out roms on the eshop and stuffing a convenient 2GB card in the box would lead to a lot of impulse buys

cool breeze · « **Reply #269 on:** September 16, 2011, 01:52:56 AM »

Sony is already planning an external battery peripheral

rack up them hidden costs

nvm, it might just be this:

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #270 on:** September 16, 2011, 06:12:46 AM »

I'm glad they're thinking ahead about it. I'd gladly take an external third party USB thumb adapter, regardless of how much juice it'll contribute, over something as big as that. But to be fair, that looks like a "portable charger" not an "external battery peripheral" which he already stated is in the planning stage(?).

magus · « **Reply #271 on:** September 16, 2011, 06:55:48 AM »

maxy · « **Reply #272 on:** September 16, 2011, 07:04:20 AM »

Vita battery life will be shit,no doubt

Especially if you like Uncharted or Resistance

Wait for revision

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #273 on:** September 16, 2011, 07:16:12 AM »

I just went back to the PDF after reading that comic, I didn't pay attention to the wording before.

For some reason I was under the impression that 3 hours is the worst case scenario without network play, which is in the PSP's ballpark, but now I realize that the 3-5h estimate is given under these restrictions: type of game, all networks off, headphones on, and "default brightness" (betting it's lvl 3 out of).

Uncharted with 3G on, full brightness, and speakers sound will be joke material for years to come!

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