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DERP DERP GENSHIN'S SWORD

What you get? Genshin's Izuna drop animation. THIS CHANGE EVERYTHING.

Oh wow.  :lol They give you Genshin's sword but can't include other weapons besides it and the Dragon Sword in 3 without having to download unlock keys or whatever?  :lol

Worth seeing the trainwreck when it drops in price, though, MCD?

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Two stars out of five from the giant bombsquad
http://www.giantbomb.com/ninja-gaiden-3/61-32687/reviews/
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The button-mashing/dynasty warriors comparisons that some reviews talk about are flat out wrong. Mindlessly mashing on hard and especially master ninja will get you grabbed and killed in an instant. In fact master ninja can be pretty annoying because so many moves are too risky or unsafe to use, which leaves you open to get hit or grabbed for 30-80% damage. Between this and Sigma 2, I'd love to know why Hayashi is so obsessed with grabs.

I also saw some review say that UTs are spammable now, unlike the previous games where they were rare commodities that required sacrifice. LOLWUT
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Two stars out of five from the giant bombsquad
http://www.giantbomb.com/ninja-gaiden-3/61-32687/reviews/

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This review is for the X360 release of Ninja Gaiden 3.

*sigh* One of my issues with Giant Bomb is a huge X-box 360 bias in their reviewing. They don't give the other platforms a mention or review at times. I'd love to see Alex rip into the PS3 versions framerate issues (if TTP over on GAF is right about them) and the like. Oh, well, "console wars" aside:

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This game is far more Dynasty Warriors than Ninja Gaiden.

I'm not surprised since Ayane and Ryu were added to two separate Dynasty Warrior games as cameos.

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It's a senseless divergence that is even more maddening when you realize the game never bothers to explain any of it, and in fact seems to forget that it even happened. How the hell are you going to make me fight a skyscraper-sized witch demon for 15 minutes and then just completely forget to explain why?

To be fair: They never explained the bosses in NG2 either. It was mostly "here's a robo-fish that you have to shoot at the end of the second chapter, enjoy!" fare. NG1 attempted to have the bosses included in the story (Doku, Alma, ... uh... it's been years since I played NG1 but you get my point) to where they weren't suddenly out of the blue end-of-level fare.

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If anything, this multiplayer component just seems like an excuse to tack an online pass onto the game.

Wait... wait... wait... there's an online pass for this shit?  :lol Oh my god, what the hell is wrong with you Tecmo!?

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Ouch at that review though. I still kinda want to play this if only because I want to see how bad they fucked it up.


The button-mashing/dynasty warriors comparisons that some reviews talk about are flat out wrong. Mindlessly mashing on hard and especially master ninja will get you grabbed and killed in an instant. In fact master ninja can be pretty annoying because so many moves are too risky or unsafe to use, which leaves you open to get hit or grabbed for 30-80% damage. Between this and Sigma 2, I'd love to know why Hayashi is so obsessed with grabs.

I also saw some review say that UTs are spammable now, unlike the previous games where they were rare commodities that required sacrifice. LOLWUT

You have gameplay videos of Master Ninja? I really want to see that level of gameplay from this. As far as grabs, I dunno his obsession either. But it's better than spamming projectiles at you surely?
« Last Edit: March 23, 2012, 11:38:05 PM by thisismyusername »

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DERP DERP GENSHIN'S SWORD

What you get? Genshin's Izuna drop animation. THIS CHANGE EVERYTHING.

Oh wow.  :lol They give you Genshin's sword but can't include other weapons besides it and the Dragon Sword in 3 without having to download unlock keys or whatever?  :lol

Worth seeing the trainwreck when it drops in price, though, MCD?
Genshin's sword is the Dragon Sword with one or two new animations.

THE STORY IS ALL ABOUT THE DRAGON LINEAGE AND STEEL ON BONE SO SWORDS IS ALL YOU GET, BAKA!

And no, please don't buy this. Get Ninja Blade instead. But if you insist on buying it then only when they release more weapons FREE OF CHARGE.

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Real talk:

Day 5 shows why this game should have been all COOP. Letting Momiji kill half of the 30 enemies in every encounter made the game so much more enjoyable and not hectic with explosions covering the screen every second. Too bad it was only for a brief time.

But after that you get to hear the most awesome voice in the universe:

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« Last Edit: March 24, 2012, 03:06:36 AM by MCD »

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I also saw some review say that UTs are spammable now, unlike the previous games where they were rare commodities that required sacrifice. LOLWUT
This is actually happening right now with me on day 6 (snow area). I don't know what's triggering but fuck if I am not grateful.

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OMG

Hayashi is a MASTER TROLL

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Doppelganger boss in day 6 can use claws, scythe and the void ninpo.

SO WHY CAN'T I USE THEM?

Also, boss sux donkey ass balls. He is piss easy to beat it isn't even funny. And I remember fighting two of him were the best part of NG1. LOL.
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« Last Edit: March 24, 2012, 04:23:16 AM by MCD »

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Now these barrier dude have instant hit K.O. attacks.

GREAT, JUST GREAT.

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THE STORY

THIS IS SO BAAAAAAAAAAD

I AM A MURDERER

NO SHIT RYU

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Yeah, I thought it was weird how the claws and scythe seem to have their moves in the game, but they're not available to you for some reason. Maybe they're still making the steel on bone/OT animations and bug testing  them and such? Or they're just them holding back cuz they're team ninja dog.

Also, this game actually made me want to play as a side character just so I can have some different moves for once. Gimme Momiji or the gold mask guy :(

You have gameplay videos of Master Ninja? I really want to see that level of gameplay from this. As far as grabs, I dunno his obsession either. But it's better than spamming projectiles at you surely?

I have the first 4 stages uploaded on MNM:

Sometimes I try to do normal ground combos to break up the tedium, but I usually wind up paying for it. NG2's difficulty was much better than either NGS2 or this game as well. At least the exploding kunai can be reliably avoided with skill and strategy - in this game if you try a ground combo near a group of enemies that's more than two or three hits, you gon get got. And you don't have a guillotine throw any more to separate them. :-\
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YOU ARE A FUCKING NINJA, WHAT DID YOU THINK THE JOB WOULD ENTAIL
Day 7 spoilers:

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Everything is different in front of a loli.
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Seriously, that dinosaur who wrote the story should never, ever write anything after this. This is even lower than animu stories.

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YOU ARE A FUCKING NINJA, WHAT DID YOU THINK THE JOB WOULD ENTAIL

To be fair,the job description was pretty vague on that career site.

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Last boss

10fps

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Done.

Worst game ever.

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I have the first 4 stages uploaded on MNM:

Sometimes I try to do normal ground combos to break up the tedium, but I usually wind up paying for it. NG2's difficulty was much better than either NGS2 or this game as well. At least the exploding kunai can be reliably avoided with skill and strategy - in this game if you try a ground combo near a group of enemies that's more than two or three hits, you gon get got. And you don't have a guillotine throw any more to separate them. :-\

Thanks, I'm going to watch it now.  :-[

DERP DERP GENSHIN'S SWORD

What you get? Genshin's Izuna drop animation. THIS CHANGE EVERYTHING.

Oh wow.  :lol They give you Genshin's sword but can't include other weapons besides it and the Dragon Sword in 3 without having to download unlock keys or whatever?  :lol

Worth seeing the trainwreck when it drops in price, though, MCD?
Genshin's sword is the Dragon Sword with one or two new animations.

THE STORY IS ALL ABOUT THE DRAGON LINEAGE AND STEEL ON BONE SO SWORDS IS ALL YOU GET, BAKA!

And no, please don't buy this. Get Ninja Blade instead. But if you insist on buying it then only when they release more weapons FREE OF CHARGE.

I don't have a 360 or a PC capable enough for Ninja Blade.

Honestly, I don't think Sigma 2 is bad. It does have Hayashi-isms, but it fixed some of the issues I had with NG2. But it seems the Hayashi-isms here are major dealbreakers. :(
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YOU ARE A FUCKING NINJA, WHAT DID YOU THINK THE JOB WOULD ENTAIL

To be fair,the job description was pretty vague on that career site.

 :lol at both of you.

MCD, you ain't done yet. Let us know how you feel about the DoA5 demo (or give me the--oh, right, you aren't playing on PS3 I wager).

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not related to ng3, but would i enjoy ng black if i played sigma and thought it was very good but not mind-blowing?  i liked sigma but it felt like i was missing something that made it god-tier for everyone else.  i wanna try black on 360 marketplace but i wanna hear what everyone has to say about it first.
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not related to ng3, but would i enjoy ng black if i played sigma and thought it was very good but not mind-blowing?  i liked sigma but it felt like i was missing something that made it god-tier for everyone else.  i wanna try black on 360 marketplace but i wanna hear what everyone has to say about it first.

If you didn't think NG1 was mind blowing, then no: You aren't going to think Black is mind-blowing. Sigma took the same game, added some bosses (for the worse), added a new weapon (for the better), removed the intro cutscene (for the worse), removed mission mode for DLC-mission-mode (for the worse), and... I think... rebalanced(?) the game when Black had a perfect difficulty level for all difficulties.

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I am not good at fighting games so my impressions on DOA5 would be just this: GOOD GRAPHICS.

I don't have the demo anyway.

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Just finished my Master Ninja run. Got 2.39m karma and #1 on the leaderboard, but I'm sure that will be easy to beat once someone starts a MN run knowing how to use steel on bone properly (I didn't figure it out until day 6/7).

Game's alright anyway, I'd give it a 6/10. It's like a less crappy Ninja Blade, but still an awful Ninja Gaiden. Guess I'll try out mission mode next.
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Just finished my Master Ninja run. Got 2.39m karma and #1 on the leaderboard, but I'm sure that will be easy to beat once someone starts a MN run knowing how to use steel on bone properly (I didn't figure it out until day 6/7).

Game's alright anyway, I'd give it a 6/10. It's like a less crappy Ninja Blade, but still an awful Ninja Gaiden. Guess I'll try out mission mode next.

I'm watching your Master Ninja runs, and editing aside it's an impressive run so far. How bad is the targeting? I've heard complaints about Ryu suddenly "flailing away at air" and not the enemy when there is a group of them because the targeting suddenly freaks out or something. I'm sure that would be annoying on Master Ninja.

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The targeting can get annoying. There were plenty of times when I was trying to point to one specific enemy, but he would keep aiming for someone else. The OT misses downed enemies fairly often as well, which also sucks. But overall it's manageable. I don't think I ever had him attacking the air or anything, he was always going for someone. (if that did happen, I don't remember it anyway)


Also, I don't like mission mode so far. You earn points during each mission, which makes your ninja and weapon level up (like an RPG), which keeps unlocking more attacks and making them stronger and such. But that's just really annoying because you're basically stuck with a gimped character until you grind your way to max rank. There are also random 'contracts' in every mission, and completing them earns more points (stuff like do an izuna drop, do a UT, do a steel on bone, etc.), but those can be kinda annoying too because activating a steel on bone with the slide combo (which I haven't unlocked yet) is left to random chance. And the missions are too long.

I also don't like how they seem to be designed around co-op. But at least you can choose to play solo, unlike Sigma 2. I guess it remains to be seen if the later missions are even possible to complete by yourself.
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Eh, the AI in Sigma 2's co-op wasn't too bad. They could die above Normal, sure, but at least they attempted to revive you. Can't say the same for human players on Master Ninja.  ::)

The major issue with Sigma 2's co-op mission mode is the fact it is broken unless you glitch the hell out of it the four "Greater Fiends" Master Ninja mode is basically one person taking on two people while Alexia is trolled by Rachel TWIRLTWIRLTWIRLTWIRL dodging to glitch her out in an aggro attempt to prevent her from going after Ryu.

I guess I'll have to pick the game up when it's cheap and see how bad the targeting is. Then again I've got to complete Sigma 2 on Warrior and Master Ninja and finish the Master Ninja level co-op to say I did but my PS3 that has a save file with my progress for those went under and I don't have the heart to re-wade into mission mode and stuff to redo it on the new PS3. :/

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And I'm kinda hoping a Sigma 3 happens and fixes the issues NG3 currently has.
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Mission Mode is about as bad as Sigma 2's (if not worse, because now it has an RPG system that forces you to grind in order to have a character that isn't completely gimped). The Acolyte, Mentor, and Leader missions are all solo-able, as are at least a few of the Master Ninja trials, but everything else is pretty much impossible unless you're playing co-op. And the competitive multiplayer is comically bad. Dunno if I'll bother trying to find a partner who wants to grind through these awful missions.

I really wish Hayashi would stop making action games. The guy is completely incompetent.
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Can someone with NG3 send me either a picture of the DOA5 demo code (already used) or a portion of your receipt with a used printed code?  I want to see if I can get a free demo from Tecmo.
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No images needed...downloading the CE NG3 Dead Or Alive 5 demo now. 

If Tecmo is giving out codes this easily, they should just put it up on PSN/XBLA already.   :lol
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Scythe makes every encounter and boss fight PLAYABLE. Seriously, Master Ninja without Scythe is made for masochist.

AKA iconoclast.

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Oh yeah, Ninja Gaiden 3 exists.  I forgot!
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Everyone should try out the free Falcon Talons and Scythe weapons (FREE SHIT!).

Scythe is god tier here. From Izuna dropping large fiends to jumping on enemies and hitting Y on the guard and alchemist dudes to instant STEEL ON BONE regular dudes by just mashing XXXX.

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Re: Ninja Scythe 3.0 and Dead or Alive 5 (plus that guy from Virtua Fighter)
« Reply #209 on: April 20, 2012, 12:50:08 PM »
And thankfully, the bosses are a bit faster to take down.

Re: Ninja Scythe 3.0 and Dead or Alive 5 (plus that guy from Virtua Fighter)
« Reply #210 on: April 20, 2012, 01:04:29 PM »
Is this $10 yet?
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Everyone should try out the free Falcon Talons and Scythe weapons (FREE SHIT!).
That would require us to actually buy this game...

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Everyone should try out the free Falcon Talons and Scythe weapons (FREE SHIT!).

Scythe is god tier here. From Izuna dropping large fiends to jumping on enemies and hitting Y on the guard and alchemist dudes to instant STEEL ON BONE regular dudes by just mashing XXXX.

In before the nerf?

(Who the hell am I kidding. Hayashi won't nerf shit.  :-*)

Lyte, tell me how you got the collectors edition. I want the PS3 demo. :(

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Lyte, tell me how you got the collectors edition. I want the PS3 demo. :(

I just emailed Tecmo customer support and told them that the PS3 CE code I had didn't work.  People on GAF said that was all you need to do, but they asked me to send a pic of the voucher or of the receipt.  I told them the voucher got thrown out and they ended up sending me a code anyway.

Results may vary...a friend did the same thing and they didn't ask him for a pic.  They actually ended up sending him both the voucher and an online pass for NG3.   :lol  Hard to believe they haven't realized what's been going on yet.
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Re: Ninja Scythe 3.0 and Dead or Alive 5 (plus that guy from Virtua Fighter)
« Reply #214 on: April 20, 2012, 04:27:08 PM »
Free content? Will DL for when gamefly sends it
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Lyte, tell me how you got the collectors edition. I want the PS3 demo. :(

I just emailed Tecmo customer support and told them that the PS3 CE code I had didn't work.  People on GAF said that was all you need to do, but they asked me to send a pic of the voucher or of the receipt.  I told them the voucher got thrown out and they ended up sending me a code anyway.

Results may vary...a friend did the same thing and they didn't ask him for a pic.  They actually ended up sending him both the voucher and an online pass for NG3.   :lol  Hard to believe they haven't realized what's been going on yet.

Well, I just lied to them. Let's see if they let me get the demo. I'm jonesing bad to see how good the graphics and gameplay is for a "pre-alpha."

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Re: Ninja Scythe 3.0 and Dead or Alive 5 (plus that guy from Virtua Fighter)
« Reply #216 on: April 21, 2012, 04:10:25 PM »
Oh my. Scythe can instant kill the dudes with two glowy batons/knives with double flying swallow. Sure came in handy on chapter 6. Like, no way I am clearing 15 of them plus motorbikes plus alchemist dudes. GTFO Hayashi.

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Re: Ninja Scythe 3.0 and Dead or Alive 5 (plus that guy from Virtua Fighter)
« Reply #217 on: April 22, 2012, 03:16:25 PM »
Masked cigarillo giving you trouble? NO PROBLEM! JUST SCYTHE THE FUCKER UP WITH XYXXX

Beaten in less than 15 sec.

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Re: Ninja Scythe 3.0 and Dead or Alive 5 (plus that guy from Virtua Fighter)
« Reply #218 on: April 24, 2012, 03:12:32 PM »
Master Ninja

Complete!

Fuck this POS

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Re: Ninja Scythe 3.0 and Dead or Alive 5 (plus that guy from Virtua Fighter)
« Reply #219 on: April 24, 2012, 06:33:43 PM »
I am downloading the "Ultimate Ninja Master Pack" - is this the scythe? What exactly am I supposed to download?
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Re: Ninja Scythe 3.0 and Dead or Alive 5 (plus that guy from Virtua Fighter)
« Reply #220 on: April 25, 2012, 02:08:13 AM »
Yes.

Ultimate Ninja Master Pack = Ninja Pack Lite 1 = Talons and Scythe in Campaign mode + some useless shit + new distinguished mentally-challenged difficulty.

All the DLCs are the same size; you download one and the others become keys/overwrite it.

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Re: Ninja Scythe 3.0 and Dead or Alive 5 (plus that guy from Virtua Fighter)
« Reply #221 on: April 26, 2012, 10:58:08 AM »


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Re: Ninja Scythe 3.0 and Dead or Alive 5 (plus that guy from Virtua Fighter)
« Reply #222 on: April 26, 2012, 12:02:23 PM »
Beautiful.

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Zack  :dur
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??? Not sure if racist ???

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Not really racist. Zack's always been a little... uh... flamboyant.

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They seemed to have pulled a "VF5 Vanessa" and made Zack's skin lighter, too.

Not really racist. Zack's always been Dennis Rodman.

Fixed for accuracy. 
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They seemed to have pulled a "VF5 Vanessa" and made Zack's skin lighter, too.

Not really racist. Zack's always been Dennis Rodman.

Fixed for accuracy.

Probably to match Lisa, who is (IIRC) his sister.

And we're both right. He's a flamboyant Dennis Rodman.

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Tina and Jackie be looking good. It's really weird seeing the VF style in the redone DOA style. You can tell they're two different art-designs. But it's nice to see Sega collaborating with Tecmo.

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So are they going to end up having the entire VF cast or something and making it VF v DoA?  Because at first it was just a cameo with Akira and maybe someone else.  Now they're up to about a quarter of the VF roster present.  Might as well just title the game VF v DoA.

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2 characters equals that much now?

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Isn't it Akira, Jackie, Sarah, Kage, Jeffry right now?

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Really? I dunno. Only seen Akira and Sarah so far.

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Isn't it Akira, Jackie, Sarah, Kage, Jeffry right now?

Sarah is the only surprise so far since the leaked roster. Unless they add more VF characters it's only Akira and Sarah right now.

Isn't it Akira, Jackie, Sarah, Kage, Jeffry right now?

Unless that was a dig at how VF fighter and DOA fighter characters look similar...

It's only Akira and Sarah, with supposedly Pai left to reveal. 3 cameos total.

No Aoi.  :'(

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Oh, I thought there were video clips of Kage fighting Hayabusa a few months back.

Haven't really paid attention to this release.

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The first print run of both versions will include a download serial code for "Sexy Costumes" for Ayane and Kasumi. These appear to be different from the "Premium Sexy Costumes" included with the Collectors Edition.

Sexy costume overload.  I thought they were supposed to be toning this down?   :lol

Oh, I thought there were video clips of Kage fighting Hayabusa a few months back.

Haven't really paid attention to this release.

Maybe you're thinking of Hayabusa's "old school" blue ninja costume.  They've only showed Hayabusa, Hayate, Ayane, Kasumi, Lei-Fang, Zack, Hitomi, Kokoro, Bayman, Christie, Akira, Sarah, and a brief cameo of Tina so far.
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