Author Topic: Steve Jobs has died (Read 19120 times)

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #60 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:06:10 PM »

Same on you Cormac for being sensible. Jobs was the sun in Plato's Allegory.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #61 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:06:36 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on October 05, 2011, 10:01:28 PM

AlecBaldwin Alec Baldwin
Sad about Steve Jobs. On par with Henry Ford, Carnegie and Edison.

This is quite sensible, although Edison is a bridge too far. This is what he was really good at: Business and marketing, with a bit of invention on the side.

People are basically attributing all of 20th/21st century culture to him. Artists, writers, movie-makers all gushing about how Jobs made everything they do possible. Nonsense. It would all have happened without him, with the likely exception of Pixar (which is a huge accomplishment of course). It's not like Photoshop can't run on PC, people. Or that mp3 players would never have become popular without iPods. What, we'd all still be listening to tape Walkmans or Minidisc players?

Agreed. He was an inventor, although his inventions aren't nearly as important to daily life as Ford's or Edison's; we're basically comparing the Wright Brothers to Willy Wonka here.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #62 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:07:02 PM »

Imagine if Jobs had died in say 2003 instead of 2011. How would he be remembered differently?

more importantly, would it have delayed the hipster explosion of the late 00s?

tiesto · « **Reply #63 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:08:21 PM »

Not an Apple fan at all, but still sad by this news. RIP.

Himu · « **Reply #64 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:13:38 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 05, 2011, 08:17:06 PM

RIP

and here comes the hyperbole

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@pvponline: Guys this is our John Lennon.

this put me into a fucking FIT

Himu · « **Reply #65 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:14:35 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 05, 2011, 10:07:02 PM

Imagine if Jobs had died in say 2003 instead of 2011. How would he be remembered differently?

more importantly, would it have delayed the hipster explosion of the late 00s?

What would technology be like in general? In particular, cell phones.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #66 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:16:20 PM »

What's weird is that I'm an apple fan (I own a ton of their products), I was saddened by his untimely death (especially given that he had a lot more he could have done, given apple's suddenly bottomless cash position and market share...), I have no reason to dislike him as a person....and these fucking people are STILL driving me crazy!

I'm sure everyone's twitter feeds are the same. People that you thought were perfectly sane members of society revealed as drooling idiots.

Rman · « **Reply #67 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:20:44 PM »

Quote from: Billy Rygar on October 05, 2011, 09:48:02 PM

Probably just showing off that you own Apple stuff. So no different than any other day in SF.

LOL.

Himu · « **Reply #68 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:24:15 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on October 05, 2011, 09:56:25 PM

Privileged youth mourn the death of gadget maker

seriously though, comparing him to JFK is beyond the pale

well for the record, jobs did a better job running apple than jfk did being president

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #69 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:25:44 PM »

http://www.inthesetimes.com/working/entry/11863/remembering_steve_jobs_record_on_workers_rights/

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #70 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:29:11 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 05, 2011, 10:24:15 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on October 05, 2011, 09:56:25 PM
Privileged youth mourn the death of gadget maker

seriously though, comparing him to JFK is beyond the pale

well for the record, jobs did a better job running apple than jfk did being president

Because Apple never authorized a secret Cuban invasion?

cool breeze · « **Reply #71 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:30:15 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on October 05, 2011, 10:01:28 PM

AlecBaldwin Alec Baldwin
Sad about Steve Jobs. On par with Henry Ford, Carnegie and Edison.

This is quite sensible, although Edison is a bridge too far. This is what he was really good at: Business and marketing, with a bit of invention on the side.

People are basically attributing all of 20th/21st century culture to him. Artists, writers, movie-makers all gushing about how Jobs made everything they do possible. Nonsense. It would all have happened without him, with the likely exception of Pixar (which is a huge accomplishment of course). It's not like Photoshop can't run on PC, people. Or that mp3 players would never have become popular without iPods. What, we'd all still be listening to tape Walkmans or Minidisc players?

is that the real Alec Baldwin and not some joke account?

oh...oh I'm dumb. I thought he wrote all of that. I was about to say Alec must have regrown his chest rug.

I don't know how twitter works. Sincerely.
V

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #72 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:31:12 PM »

jeez, i dunno. It looks real enough to me. I think I got the link from slate.

Cheebo · « **Reply #73 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:34:01 PM »

Comparing him to JFK and John Lennon is just...odd.

But yeah for the tech industry he is very much at the same level of a Henry Ford. I can't see how anyone could deny that. As a inventor he was in a class of his own. But to compare him to figures out of the business world is starting to get over the top.

Just for the turn-around he brought to Apple in the last decade he has to be respected business wise, Apple isn't the #1 tech company in the world now for nothing. I doubt there is very many people here who haven't bought at least one Apple product since he took over as CEO about a decade ago. And of course Pixar. He wasn't the creative leader of the films, that was Lassetter but Pixar would be gone and dead in the 80's and never have made a single film without Jobs clearly.

You can "lolz hipsters" and rightfully so, they are treating this like it is the death of some sort of religious icon which is just embarrassing but as a modern day business man and CEO? The guy had no equal these past 10 years.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #74 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:34:35 PM »

I knew once I got this on my phone after I woke up from my nap that I would be avoiding facebook, twitter, and tech blogs for days. I love Steve Jobs and I do think he was a modern genius in innovation, invention, and business, but I just can't take people publicly RIP-ing him just so they can. I'm sad, quite sad actually, but I can't deal with what some people are probably saying.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #75 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:39:31 PM »

[youtube=560,345]nQmoIcyOWW0[/youtube]

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #76 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:41:29 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on October 05, 2011, 10:34:35 PM

I knew once I got this on my phone after I woke up from my nap that I would be avoiding facebook, twitter, and tech blogs for days. I love Steve Jobs and I do think he was a modern genius in innovation, invention, and business, but I just can't take people publicly RIP-ing him just so they can. I'm sad, quite sad actually, but I can't deal with what some people are probably saying.

...but you had to read this thread for the Real Talk

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #77 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:50:05 PM »

I'm weak

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #78 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:53:39 PM »

you just don't want anyone else getting a piece of Your Magical Friend, Steve

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #79 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:55:27 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on October 05, 2011, 10:50:05 PM

I'm weak

You're allowed to be weak, friend. This is a time of mourning.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #80 on:** October 05, 2011, 10:56:24 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on October 05, 2011, 10:50:05 PM

I'm weak

i have to give you props for not calling it your iPhone though. Still got some shred of dignity

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #81 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:04:27 PM »

I got it through a push notification

pilonv1 · « **Reply #82 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:11:19 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 05, 2011, 11:04:16 PM

Fred Shuttlesworth died today too. Can we talk about him?

depends, how was he viewed by hipsters?

etiolate · « **Reply #83 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:12:33 PM »

He's up on cloud nine in heaven now, being asked if he's heard about the new cloud ten.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #84 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:13:36 PM »

It's sad that he died.

That's all I got.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #85 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:15:15 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 05, 2011, 11:13:36 PM

It's sad that he died.

That's all I got.

Is that all? how disrespectful of you.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #86 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:24:35 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 05, 2011, 11:15:15 PM

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 05, 2011, 11:13:36 PM
It's sad that he died.

That's all I got.

Is that all? how disrespectful of you.

Oh, I know. I'm so ashamed.

It really is sad that he's dead, but my life isn't over or anything.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #87 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:31:11 PM »

It is once zombie Steve Jobs, the poet of the computer world, eats you for disrespecting him by not pulling your hair out while wailing.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

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Cormacaroni · « **Reply #88 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:55:30 PM »

Apple store in SF:

Yep, my admiration of Jobs is DEFINITELY dwindling by the second. It seems someone must hate him just to maintain some kind of balance in the Force

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #89 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:57:41 PM »

The Onion already shared a joke about a dead jobs on facebook- the hate comments are worth it. Its the Onion! come on people!

pilonv1 · « **Reply #90 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:58:44 PM »

when did people get so uppity

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #91 on:** October 05, 2011, 11:59:43 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 05, 2011, 11:58:44 PM

when did people get so uppity

when a black man became president

Rman · « **Reply #92 on:** October 06, 2011, 12:01:13 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on October 05, 2011, 11:59:43 PM

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 05, 2011, 11:58:44 PM
when did people get so uppity

when a black man became president

Nah. Blame Twitter/FB. Everyone has a soapbox now.

Himu · « **Reply #93 on:** October 06, 2011, 12:11:07 AM »

everyone is offended by everything now

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #94 on:** October 06, 2011, 12:59:01 AM »

History will prove that the real hero is the man on the right.

chronovore · « **Reply #95 on:** October 06, 2011, 01:08:33 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on October 05, 2011, 10:01:28 PM

AlecBaldwin Alec Baldwin
Sad about Steve Jobs. On par with Henry Ford, Carnegie and Edison.

This is quite sensible, although Edison is a bridge too far. This is what he was really good at: Business and marketing, with a bit of invention on the side.

People are basically attributing all of 20th/21st century culture to him. Artists, writers, movie-makers all gushing about how Jobs made everything they do possible. Nonsense. It would all have happened without him, with the likely exception of Pixar (which is a huge accomplishment of course). It's not like Photoshop can't run on PC, people. Or that mp3 players would never have become popular without iPods. What, we'd all still be listening to tape Walkmans or Minidisc players?

I dunno, Edison was also good at pilfering other people's ideas for his own, and making significant improvements to others' ideas... and to getting inferior versions to sell as well!

chronovore · « **Reply #96 on:** October 06, 2011, 01:13:37 AM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on October 05, 2011, 11:57:41 PM

The Onion already shared a joke about a dead jobs on facebook- the hate comments are worth it. Its the Onion! come on people!

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BREAKING: Panicking Apple Board Of Directors Attempt To Restart Steve Jobs

That's wicked, but Steve is probably laughing at it somewhere, too.

Himu · « **Reply #97 on:** October 06, 2011, 01:56:31 AM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 06, 2011, 12:59:01 AM

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History will prove that the real hero is the man on the right.

neanderthal

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #98 on:** October 06, 2011, 03:16:24 AM »

Stephen Fry on Jobs legacy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/14664694

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #99 on:** October 06, 2011, 03:54:26 AM »

Outside the Apple store in Ginza

I really am just

at this point. It's very nice of them but why they feel moved to do this is beyond me. I am completely heartless obvs

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #100 on:** October 06, 2011, 03:55:39 AM »

I guess we missed the apple-kool-aid Corma.

We are from another breed, of men that don't need to have their hands held by a company.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #101 on:** October 06, 2011, 04:02:35 AM »

Our generation seems to think every single company in the world is EVIL unless it makes phones or games or fast food that they like, then they're AWESOME

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #102 on:** October 06, 2011, 04:04:03 AM »

Deep down we know they are all the same though.

Himu · « **Reply #103 on:** October 06, 2011, 04:08:01 AM »

I dunno guys. I just like Apple.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #104 on:** October 06, 2011, 04:15:33 AM »

I like 'em too, in a very general way, but what I'm seeing goes far beyond LIKE.

Not that it matters - everyone will soon forget as the news cycle cranks on.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #105 on:** October 06, 2011, 04:17:51 AM »

People comparing him to great inventors and visionaries is really stretching it.

Like if he made computers popular, he didn't.

Himu · « **Reply #106 on:** October 06, 2011, 04:18:00 AM »

True, this is way beyond 'like'

cool breeze · « **Reply #107 on:** October 06, 2011, 04:19:56 AM »

I like Apple. I like Jobs. I think he was an important guy. I think it's sad that he's gone. But the general reaction is pretty much this:

[youtube=560,345]pxx2meAQME8[/youtube]

and I hate that it seems cynical by comparison. To me, cynical is making a bleak Apple logo with Jobs' face in it literally moments after he died. How is that an actual reaction.

Himu · « **Reply #108 on:** October 06, 2011, 04:24:56 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on October 06, 2011, 04:17:51 AM

People comparing him to great inventors and visionaries is really stretching it.

I wouldn't say that. He definitely was a visionary, but he wasn't an inventor so much as he was a businessman. The man helped turn around Apple from what it became in the 90's (which is to say, a joke) to THE leading company in the world in a matter of years. Anyone who argues that the man lacked vision is foolish. And this is without the mentioning of Pixar.

It really depends on the person you're comparing him to that makes the statement hyperbolic because in the past, Jobs had Woz who helped engineer and design the computers, whereas Jobs stood as the business guy. So I would think Edison is a poor example. But he's most definitely on par with Conrad Hilton/Walt Disney type of influence.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #109 on:** October 06, 2011, 04:26:07 AM »

"THE leading company in the world"

yes, no company is bigger than Apple

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2011/full_list/101_200.html

#111 on the top 500!

but they are still THE leading company, let me assure you

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #110 on:** October 06, 2011, 04:29:06 AM »

Leading in what? Their market value is hugely overinflated, much like Nintendo's at the time of the Wii's height. They are just one of many players.

I don't fucking care he was a brilliant businessman, man. It's just money, I don't bow to money.

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1   Wal-Mart Stores   421,849   16,389
2   Royal Dutch Shell   378,152   20,127
3   Exxon Mobil   354,674   30,460
4   BP   308,928   -3,719
5   Sinopec Group   273,422   7,629
6   China National Petroleum   240,192   14,367
7   State Grid   226,294   4,556
8   Toyota Motor   221,760   4,766
9   Japan Post Holdings   203,958   4,891
10   Chevron   196,337   19,024

Where's Apple?

Oh wait in the real world, it's oil that makes the world go round. Not iOS.

Himu · « **Reply #111 on:** October 06, 2011, 04:40:54 AM »

Oh, typo. I meant one of the leading companies.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #112 on:** October 06, 2011, 05:29:05 AM »

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #113 on:** October 06, 2011, 05:54:54 AM »

It could be worse I suppose - it could be J.K. Rowling

chronovore · « **Reply #114 on:** October 06, 2011, 06:15:07 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on October 06, 2011, 05:54:54 AM

It could be worse I suppose - it could be J.K. Rowling

Hoooo hooo hoooooahahaahahahahahahhah!

Seriously, a full minute of snickers and snorts ensued. You bastard.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #115 on:** October 06, 2011, 06:15:23 AM »

I think it's kind of sad that a CEO has this strong of a cult of personality. I don't want to see any of these fucknuts bitching and griping about the iron vice grip corporations have on our nuts here in the US. I'm sure in a twist of irony, there are quite a few Occupy Wall Street losers weeping over his death.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #116 on:** October 06, 2011, 06:18:27 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on October 06, 2011, 05:29:05 AM

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Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #117 on:** October 06, 2011, 06:20:23 AM »

Quote from: The Experiment on October 06, 2011, 06:15:23 AM

I think it's kind of sad that a CEO has this strong of a cult of personality. I don't want to see any of these fucknuts bitching and griping about the iron vice grip corporations have on our nuts here in the US. I'm sure in a twist of irony, there are quite a few Occupy Wall Street losers weeping over his death.

Well spoken.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #118 on:** October 06, 2011, 06:37:52 AM »

a touching tribute from the lads at SA

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/feature-articles/steve-jobs-dead.php

T-Short · « **Reply #119 on:** October 06, 2011, 06:48:36 AM »

As someone who works professionally with apple computers, and has done so for the latest 10 years, I'm hoping this will be the beginning of an end to the shitty personality cult part of Apple which I never subscribed to and always resented being associated with.

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Author Topic: Steve Jobs has died (Read 19120 times)