Author Topic: Batman Arkham City (Read 43068 times)

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #60 on:** October 13, 2011, 01:18:04 PM »

and meanwhile, they keep handing exclusive content to gamestop

"Fuck you, Gamestop, for taking the food out of our mouths! Oh, btw, could you put your dick in there instead?"

demi · « **Reply #61 on:** October 13, 2011, 01:19:24 PM »

Say your FU to GameStop by buying at KMart

Himu · « **Reply #62 on:** October 13, 2011, 01:20:46 PM »

i haven't seen a kmart in years dude

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #63 on:** October 13, 2011, 01:20:48 PM »

Gamestop isn't hurt by any of these practices. They still sell the game used. And people will still buy it used. The only people getting screwed here are normal consumers because we lose rights on our ability to sell goods second hand. People need to stop this "Screw Gamestop!" shit because we are the ones getting screwed.

I'm no idiot though. This is the way things are going in the future. It still annoys me how companies have to lie though to justify what they are doing. (EA: "We need to pay for servers" on used copies) Just have the balls to say we don't want you selling our software and we will screw you any chance we get to stop you from doing so. It's their right. But at least be honest about what is going on.

That being said I'll still play (meaning rent and beat Batman through Gamefly.) I'll even consider buying the pass based on how much content I'm missing. So I'm very realistic about the whole thing. There are other games I would never touch or buy because of online passes. But Batman most likely will be so good that I'll hold my nose and do what it takes. I go on a case by case basis.

Robo · « **Reply #64 on:** October 13, 2011, 01:37:35 PM »

Quote from: demi on October 13, 2011, 01:19:24 PM

Say your FU to GameStop by buying at KMart

KMART

TRU is doing a buy 2, get 1 from the 16th through the 22nd, too.

demi · « **Reply #65 on:** October 13, 2011, 01:59:50 PM »

Quote from: Robo on October 13, 2011, 01:37:35 PM

Quote from: demi on October 13, 2011, 01:19:24 PM
Say your FU to GameStop by buying at KMart

KMART

TRU is doing a buy 2, get 1 from the 16th through the 22nd, too.

Meh... KMart is doing technically B1 G1 50% off. TRU's deal works out to ~$44 each game

bork · « **Reply #66 on:** October 13, 2011, 02:30:23 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on October 13, 2011, 01:15:22 PM

at a heavily discounted price

i don't think i'll keel over dead from the stress of waiting to play a game which will be exactly the same a couple of months from now at $35 during a holiday sale

Might as well wait for the inevitable GOTY edition.

Himu · « **Reply #67 on:** October 13, 2011, 03:15:32 PM »

Got every Riddler challenge done in AA. Got all the Arkham story things too, last one was real hard. Started a game on hard mode, and it's not too bad, it's just hard adjusting because I'm so accustomed to the button prompts.

chronovore · « **Reply #68 on:** October 13, 2011, 07:17:07 PM »

In Batman:AA, I hadn't realized there are no combat prompts in Hard mode.

-- I'd never make it through that.

re:online pass
It's maybe unkind to the customers who are on a play-and-flip-for-credit schedule. They're getting less, gamestop is probably not making any less. It's a little sad that things have come to this: locked on-disc content at launch. $:-\$

As a developer, and as someone who wants to see other developers get paid, I try to buy new and buy close to launch if it's something in which I'm interested (though this is frequently influenced by The Backlog).

I wish there was a PR campaign by a joint venture of publishers, saying "If you buy used, you're the store's customer. If you buy new, your our customer."

I'm well-familiar with the argument about reselling books and music, but videogames as a medium have a much shorter shelf-life.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #69 on:** October 13, 2011, 07:31:46 PM »

Are there other industries who when faced with decline nickel and dime their existing customers into oblivion rather than adjust their strategy?

There probably are but I can't think of any off the top of my head.

Himu · « **Reply #70 on:** October 13, 2011, 07:54:08 PM »

Yes. Many, in fact. Let's take the auto industry.

It's the equivalent of buying a new car. You buy a new car and you get satellite radio and sweet shit on top of the purchase of the vehicle. Buy used, and you won't get cool features like that because you aren't directly supporting x car maker, you're supporting x car dealer.

This is the same idea. If you buy new, and support WB games and Rocksteady, you get Catwoman playable. After all, you're a paying support of Rocksteady. Catwoman is the satellite radio equivalent. Not required, but a bonus and it comes with the game for free if you buy new. If you buy used, you are supporting whoever you bought it from -- in most cases, Gamestop -- and in order to play as Catwoman you need to shell out some bucks on top of that used game. Makes sense.

This punishes used games sells and most definitely punishes used game sellers by taking back customers that are lost in the used game market.

You guys should be glad they're doing this as it's a total fuck off to Gamestop, who sucks. Why are you even complaining? Buy new, no problems. The game will likely be available for 40 bucks new on amazon in one month or two anyways, so stop bitching and shut the fuck up. The only people who are being nickel and dimed in this case are people who are buying used. If you buy new, this does not affect you in any way.

Batman: Arkham City is a fine way of handling dlc. Saints Row the Third and its multiple dlc's (cheats have to be bought through dlc now fyi) aren't.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #71 on:** October 13, 2011, 08:05:37 PM »

how about you shut the fuck up, corporate asskisser

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #72 on:** October 13, 2011, 08:11:06 PM »

also your used car argument is bullshit, you can buy used cars with satellite radios and all those sweet features, they don't strip them out of the car just because it's used

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #73 on:** October 13, 2011, 08:16:41 PM »

Guess what, sometimes something good happens and you just want to celebrate by buying a sweet new car with satellite radio.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #74 on:** October 13, 2011, 08:17:48 PM »

And they don't strip them out of new cars. They may try to get you to buy a lot of extra items but they don't take away 3rd gear or something.

Robo · « **Reply #75 on:** October 13, 2011, 09:08:52 PM »

jesus christ, himu $:-\$

The car argument, really?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #76 on:** October 13, 2011, 09:11:54 PM »

And sometimes they tear out the carpet and break off the antenna. A nice bonus sure, but not really necessary.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #77 on:** October 13, 2011, 09:16:27 PM »

fuck this VIP pass shit, don't support this turd.

edit: actually read the thread. It's not as bad if you get the pass by buying the game new, but locked on-disc content is still a cop out.

Whats worse is the morans who forked out for 'epic' edition of GoW3 (can't remember how much it was but it was 3 digits) don't even get the GoW VIP pass. Owned

The Sceneman · « **Reply #78 on:** October 13, 2011, 09:20:45 PM »

and it's on the disc!

demi · « **Reply #79 on:** October 13, 2011, 09:21:20 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 13, 2011, 09:17:50 PM

Oh wait, you have to have the code AND be online to use the catwoman stuff? That sucks.

Since when has this been true for any DLC. You just have to use the code, then you DL the DLC.

The whole "issue" is for people who dont have internet available, or some luddite excuse.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #80 on:** October 13, 2011, 09:34:31 PM »

Positive Touch · « **Reply #81 on:** October 13, 2011, 09:39:22 PM »

if i wanted to give my money to a good cause, i'd don't to a charity, not a fucking multi-million dollar videogame company.

and hey, since i buy used, i can afford to donate money to charities!

pilonv1 · « **Reply #82 on:** October 13, 2011, 11:04:46 PM »

Oscar eloquently stating my point in a way I never could

Himu · « **Reply #83 on:** October 14, 2011, 05:14:37 AM »

Read that AC's content is locked out when you're offline.

Now THAT grinds my gears.

maxy · « **Reply #84 on:** October 14, 2011, 05:30:41 AM »

Were did you read that?

Himu · « **Reply #85 on:** October 14, 2011, 05:45:04 AM »

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #86 on:** October 14, 2011, 09:18:09 AM »

http://www.giantbomb.com/batman-arkham-city/61-29443/reviews/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2011-10-14-batman-arkham-city-review
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/119/1199705p1.html
http://www.1up.com/reviews/batman-arkham-city-xbox-ps3
http://www.joystiq.com/2011/10/14/batman-arkham-city-review/
http://uk.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/batman-arkham-city/video/6340098/batman-arkham-city-video-review
http://www.gametrailers.com/game/batman-arkham-city/12467
http://www.g4tv.com/games/xbox-360/63090/batman-arkham-city/review/

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #87 on:** October 14, 2011, 10:06:13 AM »

Niiiiiice.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #88 on:** October 14, 2011, 10:24:39 AM »

[youtube=560,345][/youtube]

Hopefully Gamefly comes through for me.

demi · « **Reply #89 on:** October 14, 2011, 11:02:18 AM »

it is, on the internet

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #90 on:** October 14, 2011, 11:05:45 AM »

Destructoid gave it an 8.5. They are clearly terrorists that hate freedom.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #91 on:** October 14, 2011, 11:14:54 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 13, 2011, 07:54:08 PM

You guys should be glad they're doing this as it's a total fuck off to Gamestop, who sucks.

Yeah, they are really fucking Gamestop over.

Quote

The Batman: Arkham City new copy-only Catwoman content issue won't be affecting used sales at GameStop, as an internal memo reveals that customers purchasing the game preowned will score a Catwoman code as well.

Sent to us by an anonymous tipster and since verified with GameStop retail locations, used copies of Batman: Arkham City will feature a code to download the full Catwoman content pack printed on the customer's receipt. Normally this code would only be available in a new copy of the game, with second-hand owners forced to purchase the content as a $10 download.

GameStop and Warner Bros. had a similar deal in place for Mortal Kombat, allowing the retailer to print out online passes with used copies so customers would avoid the additional purchase.

We've reached out to Warner Bros. to clarify the reasoning behind the move, which seems to counteract the purpose of having the code in new copies in the first place.

http://kotaku.com/5849828/dont-fret-used-gamers-gamestop-has-catwoman-codes-for-preowned-arkham-city-purchasers

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #92 on:** October 14, 2011, 11:16:36 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on October 14, 2011, 11:14:54 AM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 13, 2011, 07:54:08 PM
You guys should be glad they're doing this as it's a total fuck off to Gamestop, who sucks.

Yeah, they are really fucking Gamestop over.

Quote
The Batman: Arkham City new copy-only Catwoman content issue won't be affecting used sales at GameStop, as an internal memo reveals that customers purchasing the game preowned will score a Catwoman code as well.

Sent to us by an anonymous tipster and since verified with GameStop retail locations, used copies of Batman: Arkham City will feature a code to download the full Catwoman content pack printed on the customer's receipt. Normally this code would only be available in a new copy of the game, with second-hand owners forced to purchase the content as a $10 download.

GameStop and Warner Bros. had a similar deal in place for Mortal Kombat, allowing the retailer to print out online passes with used copies so customers would avoid the additional purchase.

We've reached out to Warner Bros. to clarify the reasoning behind the move, which seems to counteract the purpose of having the code in new copies in the first place.

http://kotaku.com/5849828/dont-fret-used-gamers-gamestop-has-catwoman-codes-for-preowned-arkham-city-purchasers

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #93 on:** October 14, 2011, 11:19:15 AM »

Hey man, now they are fucking over Gamefly. Who suck I guess. Or me as the average consumer. Who I also assume must suck!

How dare I sell or give their game to a friend.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #94 on:** October 14, 2011, 11:20:38 AM »

Lending copies to friends is killing the industry.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #95 on:** October 14, 2011, 12:14:17 PM »

Wow, this is even scuzzier than it first appeared.

archie4208 · « **Reply #96 on:** October 14, 2011, 12:45:03 PM »

Can't wait to buy the GOTY edition for $5 on a Steam sale.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #97 on:** October 14, 2011, 12:50:54 PM »

"i hate you, let's fuck"

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #98 on:** October 14, 2011, 12:58:01 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 14, 2011, 05:14:37 AM

Read that AC's content is locked out when you're offline.

Now THAT grinds my gears.

Huh? Are you just saying that people who don't have internet connections are screwed because they can't download the stuff, or do you have to be online to play the extra content you've already downloaded?

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #99 on:** October 14, 2011, 01:00:58 PM »

To be fair there are two interpretations to what they are doing.

A.) Gamestop paid Warner a certain amount of money for these codes. or
B.) Gamestop said fuck you Warner, we'll order a smaller amount of Batman and Warner just gave up the codes.

Either way its not like Warner is some noble giant looking out for gamers.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #100 on:** October 14, 2011, 01:21:46 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on October 14, 2011, 01:05:21 PM

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 14, 2011, 12:58:01 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 14, 2011, 05:14:37 AM
Read that AC's content is locked out when you're offline.

Now THAT grinds my gears.

Huh? Are you just saying that people who don't have internet connections are screwed because they can't download the stuff, or do you have to be online to play the extra content you've already downloaded?

The second, apparently. Like Capcom's PSN drm.

Now that's the kind of stuff I hate. Let's hope PSN doesn't go down again.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #101 on:** October 14, 2011, 01:52:30 PM »

I bought Arkham City for $25 and all my money went to some random Gaffer who got the codes for free.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #102 on:** October 14, 2011, 01:54:42 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 14, 2011, 01:52:30 PM

I bought Arkham City for $25 and all my money went to some random Gaffer who got the codes for free.

Buying games at discount is worse than piracy. You are starving poor hard working devs.

For what its worth this is my last post on this stuff. I honestly don't really care about this "issue". It is what it is and all the internet arguing about it doesn't change one damn thing. Hopefully I get the game next week and am able to talk about actual gameplay stuff.

Himu · « **Reply #103 on:** October 14, 2011, 07:15:24 PM »

Oh wow, apparently Catwoman dlc is substantial and not on the disc.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #104 on:** October 14, 2011, 08:37:09 PM »

This is all sorts of distinguished mentally-challenged

Positive Touch · « **Reply #105 on:** October 14, 2011, 08:55:49 PM »

cant wait to get the complete game with no hassles for absolutely free

fuck viewing gaming as a charity

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #106 on:** October 14, 2011, 09:47:34 PM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 14, 2011, 09:20:19 PM

When is batman out on PC?

Sometimes in November.

Himu · « **Reply #107 on:** October 16, 2011, 01:14:02 AM »

Note to Rocksteady: putting minions in every boss fight or mid-boss fight does not always equate to tension or even good boss design. STOP USING THEM. The boss fights in Arkham Asylum are shit, and this is coming from someone who loves the combat system in your game, due to the over-reliance of minions in fights that make absolutely no sense (hint: Poison Ivy). I hope to god that AC's bosses do not have the same issue.

demi · « **Reply #108 on:** October 16, 2011, 01:20:41 AM »

lol. it was their first batman game... save your complaints for after you beat Arkham City.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #109 on:** October 16, 2011, 02:13:25 AM »

I saw Robin in that trailer, so he must have a part in the story.

Himu · « **Reply #110 on:** October 16, 2011, 02:22:34 AM »

Robin/Nightwing is dlc. You can get it for free if you buy from best buy.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #111 on:** October 16, 2011, 02:26:50 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 16, 2011, 02:22:34 AM

Robin/Nightwing is dlc. You can get it for free if you buy from best buy.

I know that he's playable DLC, but it seemed more like he has a brief appearance in the actual storyline.

Himu · « **Reply #112 on:** October 16, 2011, 03:03:04 AM »

That'd be great, especially since it's the BEST ROBIN.

Himu · « **Reply #113 on:** October 16, 2011, 04:49:33 AM »

1970's Batman footage. No spoilers.

[youtube=560,345]1MpO0JhUD-g[/youtube]

Himu · « **Reply #114 on:** October 17, 2011, 03:07:58 AM »

[youtube=560,345]GmDNVlBm4OA[/youtube]

holy fuck

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #115 on:** October 17, 2011, 03:12:26 AM »

Can't wait to play this...

spoiler (click to show/hide)

...3 months from now when it's $34.99

[close]

kekekekekekeke

demi · « **Reply #116 on:** October 17, 2011, 08:31:42 AM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 17, 2011, 03:12:26 AM

Can't wait to play this...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
...3 months from now when it's $34.99
[close]

kekekekekekeke

wait, i get to pay that much on release date

kmart

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #117 on:** October 17, 2011, 08:44:42 AM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 17, 2011, 03:12:26 AM

Can't wait to play this...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
...3 months from now when it's $34.99
[close]

kekekekekekeke

i'm gonna be playing it early next month and i only payed $33.99.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #118 on:** October 17, 2011, 10:08:25 AM »

Quote from: demi on October 17, 2011, 08:31:42 AM

Quote from: Sho Nuff on October 17, 2011, 03:12:26 AM
Can't wait to play this...

spoiler (click to show/hide)
...3 months from now when it's $34.99
[close]

kekekekekekeke

wait, i get to pay that much on release date

kmart

i may break weak because of this deal

demi · « **Reply #119 on:** October 17, 2011, 10:32:07 AM »

to be fair i have a coupon from previous purchases : x

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