Author Topic: Mr. Gundam, Himuro and Bebpo present: The Superior Gundam Thread (Read 14387 times)

Mr. Gundam · « **on:** October 16, 2011, 09:08:55 PM »

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Joe Molotov · « **Reply #1 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:11:35 PM »

I forgot that this was a thing. I need to download.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #2 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:30:32 PM »

Episode Two discussion from the anime thread:

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AGE ep2

Was good! Show is not bad at all and all the haters not giving it a shot are laaame. It's nothing amazing so far, but it's a solid Gundam show. I like the colors, haha. Plus it's just nice that all the mecha action is all 2d and no CG stuff. I think Level 5/Hino fail horribly when trying to write adult stories like Rogue Galaxy or White Knight Chronicles, but when they just do fun kid stories like Inazuma Eleven & Layton they're pretty entertaining in a saturday morning cartoon way. This feels more like the latter so far and I'm enjoying it.

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AGE system is lololol hax; but if it means it'll keep pumping out new upgrades every few eps I'm ok with that
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Quote from: Bebpo on October 16, 2011, 06:44:03 PM

Also about the ep:

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The AGE system is going to have to get destroyed at some point. Takes the challenge out of any fight if he can just instantly make a weapon that beats it, lol.

Also is the girl he picked up a Tifa-like Newtype? Or is she just the pilot of one of the enemy units so she knew the base plans inside out and knew when and where the enemy would fire their shots? Hmmm....I think the latter is the generic likely answer, but I'd rather AGE have crazy psychic newtypes because that makes everything more fun.
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I bet she's one of the "enemy," but I'm sure she still has Newytype-like psychic powers.

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Himu · « **Reply #3 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:43:15 PM »

Really liked episode 2. I'm not sure how broken AGE may be, yet, based off of this episode unlike Bebpo. May the bad side about AGE is that the weapons have a short life span. I mean, look at that beam rifle.

I'm really liking the show. It shows promise. The characters so far are interesting and it's pretty standard Gundam and since Gundam is the best anime franchise that's kind of a good thing.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #4 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:43:51 PM »

I'm gonna watch the first ep tomorrow night and post MY REVIEW

Himu · « **Reply #5 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:46:16 PM »

I bet you guys purple hair girl is not only a NEWTYPE but the enemy. When Flit destroys the mobile suit in episode 1, he's like "just a machine". Bet you there's humans inside all along! He will fall in love with purple hair girl and the story will turn into SDF Macross. The story reminds me of Macross already aka unknown alien threat threatens to destroy human life, they have no sympathy at all, so a bunch of humans get on board a ship and fight unknown enemy. It's a common trope, and one I enjoy a lot.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #6 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:47:18 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 16, 2011, 09:46:16 PM

I bet you guys purple hair girl is not only a NEWTYPE but the enemy. When Flit destroys the mobile suit in episode 1, he's like "just a machine". Bet you there's humans inside all along!

Yeah, that's been my theory since day one. It's even in the post above yours. The UE destroyed their own downed unit to prevent the Federation from discovering who they are.

I've got a crazy theory, though...

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The new captain of the Diva has sunglasses that are sort of like a "Char mask." Hmmmm...

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Himu · « **Reply #7 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:50:54 PM »

Ahahaha woah

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on October 16, 2011, 09:43:51 PM

I'm gonna watch the first ep tomorrow night and post MY REVIEW

Why won't you watch the original Gundam trilogy? $:-\$

http://en.gundam.info/movie/detail/266

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #8 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:52:32 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 16, 2011, 09:50:54 PM

Ahahaha woah

Yeah, it's not part of the standard EFF uniform. Could just be glasses and I'm looking for something that's not there, but let's see what happens.

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Some of his body language in episode two was interesting as well.

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Himu · « **Reply #9 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:54:42 PM »

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Did he dispose of those guys because he knew their plan or did he have any ulterior motives?

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #10 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:57:09 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on October 16, 2011, 09:54:42 PM

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Did he dispose of those guys because he knew their plan or did he have any ulterior motives?
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The show makes it seem like he did it protect the inhabitants of Nora, and they beat you over the head about the fact that the UE could've killed everyone whenever they wanted to, but didn't for some reason...

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I'm sure we're reading into a kid's show way too much, but we'll find out soon enough. I see you lurking Bebpo, come in here and knock some sense into us.

Bebpo · « **Reply #11 on:** October 16, 2011, 09:59:07 PM »

Yeah,

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I was actually thinking the same thing in ep2 when he pistol fires on the dudes. He has that menacing crazy unpredictable side + he's the only sorta-masked character = he will become AGE's Char.

And yeah, they definitely destroyed the unit in ep1 to hide its secrets. What I'm wondering is if these monster things are human manned (which I'm sure they are), they must have some damn good reasons to go around blowing up colonies and killing millions of people. Although I'm guessing in ep2 the reason they attacked the colony was for the AGE system since it's the ultimate weapon machine. Needed to lure it out of hiding so they could nab it.

Also ep2 establishes that the true Federation (aka, not the colony government) may be kind of evil/dicks like in SEED, hence why the UE are so pissed.

And yes, the girl is going to be an enemy pilot that he falls for, you know like EVERY GUNDAM EVER (Farah, Four, Stella)

AGE isn't being super original so far

The only original things AGE is currently bringing to Gundam is the 100 year generational war, and the AGE system.

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So if the main character doesn't die at the end of each section, are they going to play the ADULT BADASS mentor character in the successor's generation? Because that'd be kind of cool if there's a 35 year old FLIT working with the next guy. And then a 60 year old one for the 3rd one and it's like the entire family take on the enemies. He can be captain of a ship

Would be even more interesting if they end up on opposing sides from each other.

Btw, anyone know what the ep structure is for the series? Is it going to be to ~50eps like most Gundam? Or will it be 3 seasons of half season length (12/13, one for each age) for 36-39 total?

Himu · « **Reply #12 on:** October 16, 2011, 10:01:43 PM »

I dunno about the structure of the series. They say it's going to last 100 years, so with that in mind it's obvious Flit isn't going to be our main character the entire journey. I think that if they do the 100 year war justice, it could be pretty original for Gundam and it could potentially set up a new standard timeline, much like how UC is years and years and years.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #13 on:** October 16, 2011, 10:02:12 PM »

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Did you see the look on his face when they said that the Gundam made it into space? I'm not sure if it was shock/surprise or pleasure.

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Quote from: Bebpo on October 16, 2011, 09:59:07 PM

So if the main character doesn't die at the end of each section, are they going to play the ADULT BADASS mentor character in the successor's generation? Because that'd be kind of cool if there's a 35 year old FLIT working with the next guy. And then a 60 year old one for the 3rd one and it's like the entire family take on the enemies. He can be captain of a ship Would be even more interesting if they end up on opposing sides from each other.

I don't see how they'll die at the end of each section. I mean, they'll have to get older and knock someone up so the next character can be born.

I don't think they've said anything about the episode structure. I was assuming a 50/52 episode series, but I guess we'll find out.

Himu · « **Reply #14 on:** October 16, 2011, 10:04:28 PM »

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His face seemed to be one of apathy to me

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #15 on:** October 16, 2011, 11:34:06 PM »

I bet we're all totally wrong on this one.

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Whatever, we're so totally right.

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #16 on:** October 17, 2011, 12:52:43 PM »

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There we go.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #17 on:** October 17, 2011, 01:50:11 PM »

Gundam AGE Episode 1 REVIEW

That was pretty good! Granted I've never seen this type of anime before so I can't compare it to much, outside of fantasy or sci fi novels/movies/etc I guess. So yea, brilliant child's planet destroyed, mother gives him the key to saving human race, he then goes through a training process that he doesn't finish before giving the enemy its first defeat. So while that story has been told billions of times I thought the episode was still good and very entertaining.

Also I chuckled at the Harry Potter OOTP-esque scene where Flip confronts the teacher over the threat on the horizon. I got goose bumps

The supporting cast seems alright. Grandpa, that little girl, Robot Wilson beach ball, etc. Gonna watch ep 2 tonight I guess

my only complaint is that I wish the main character had some type of age disorder where he looked like a little kid forever. I preferred how he looked in the flashbacks

Bebpo · « **Reply #18 on:** October 17, 2011, 02:22:45 PM »

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There we go.

Kind of fuels that he's the same guy. Normally you just need the mask, but if it's a character from elsewhere in the show you need a full cloak to hide their appearance.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #19 on:** October 17, 2011, 02:35:30 PM »

Quote from: Bebpo on October 17, 2011, 02:22:45 PM

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 17, 2011, 12:52:43 PM
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There we go.

Kind of fuels that he's the same guy. Normally you just need the mask, but if it's a character from elsewhere in the show you need a full cloak to hide their appearance.

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Yep. The "mask" appears to follow the same outline as his beard.

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I wonder if any of the Japanese boards are speculating the same stuff we are?

Bebpo · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2011, 06:28:25 PM »

I wonder if the show is going to be like Infinite Ryvius where they're carrying around the entire colony the whole show and have to defend it. I mean where the hell are they going to take a colony size tube to just be able to drop it off. And I don't think Hino has the balls to blow it up with everyone in it.

Beezy · « **Reply #21 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:12:44 PM »

Thanks guys, I'll check this out later. Is Unicorn still going on?

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #22 on:** October 17, 2011, 07:23:34 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on October 17, 2011, 07:12:44 PM

Thanks guys, I'll check this out later. Is Unicorn still going on?

Yep. Volume 4 of Unicorn comes out in December.

Himu · « **Reply #23 on:** October 18, 2011, 04:44:24 AM »

Unicorn is awesome stuff.

Himu · « **Reply #24 on:** October 18, 2011, 02:24:35 PM »

TURN A TURN

Bebpo · « **Reply #25 on:** October 18, 2011, 02:26:51 PM »

That reminds me that this has to be the ugliest main gundam ever. It looks like a toy figure. The only thing I kind of like about the design is the little wing booster on its back shoulders.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #26 on:** October 22, 2011, 05:15:25 PM »

Zaku- and Ginn-esque designs ahoy!

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #27 on:** October 22, 2011, 07:46:45 PM »

None of us are Asian, but sure, whatever!

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #28 on:** October 23, 2011, 02:52:21 PM »

Anyone watch episode three yet?

Himu · « **Reply #29 on:** October 23, 2011, 03:46:54 PM »

need rinku

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #30 on:** October 23, 2011, 04:17:36 PM »

No rinku, haven't watched it. Combination of watching NFL and getting food poisoning.

Himu · « **Reply #31 on:** October 23, 2011, 09:39:08 PM »

http://www.kumby.com/gundam-age-episode-3/

RINKU

Himu · « **Reply #32 on:** October 23, 2011, 10:00:16 PM »

Check out the oldschool shading of the Captain's eyes in this shot!

Great episode! Reminds me of a mix of the original Gundam, Battlestar Galactica, and SDF Macross! Like!!!

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #33 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:39:37 AM »

Just finished watching episode three. The haters can really suck it. It's not any more "kiddy" than other Gundam shows. Plus, it's incredibly refreshing after SEED and 00.

Himu · « **Reply #34 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:40:56 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on October 24, 2011, 12:39:37 AM

Just finished watching episode three. The haters can really suck it. It's not any more "kiddy" than other Gundam shows. Plus, it's incredibly refreshing after SEED and 00.

Definitely.

Himu · « **Reply #35 on:** October 24, 2011, 12:52:39 AM »

For the first time in a long time I wanted more as soon as the episode ended.

Expanded thoughts:

1. This episode shows AGE may not be as "kiddy" as people think.

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The captain's sacrifice was awesome. Went down like a baller.

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2. Just like how I predicted earlier in the thread, AGE may not be broken as Bebpo thinks because it's entirely conditional, and the weapons may have x amount of reserve ammo, much like how Amuro ran out of ammo in 0079. I like that. Ammo and charge is rarely ever a problem in modern Gundam's. This gives AGE an even bigger UC Gundam vibe.
3. Too early for newtypes, but I'm really liking the story between Flit and purple hair girl
4. I'm really loving the character designs. They're refreshing and heavily stylized for a show like Gundam, especially after Seed's "every character looks the same" mantra.
5. The fights are great. Flit has to use actual strategy because he's not a pilot and while he has a general gist of piloting the Gundam, most of his victories in these episodes were due to the Newtype girl, and even then Flit troubled a bit.
6. A military ship that brings aboard civilians from a destroyed colony due to a marked military threat is always fucking awesome. I have a hard on for this type of story (Battlestar Galactica, Mobile Suit Gundam, SDF Macross). Hopefully it pulls it off better than Seed did.

If this show keeps this up I would be happy if it becomes the dominant Gundam universe, replacing UC in turn. 100 years is a long time for a Gundam storyline and this show is brimming with potential.

LIKE LIKE LIKE

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #36 on:** October 24, 2011, 06:21:30 PM »

In case you haven't already heard, some potentially gigantic spoilers/rumors/maybe-bullshit for AGE leaked online today:

http://gundamguy.blogspot.com/2011/10/gundam-age-mystery-of-ue-unknown-enemy.html

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The mystery of the U.E. [Unknown Enemy] is revealed? *Spoilers Below*
According to a post from CyberGundam (Hopefully I did not misread the content):
"U.E. (Unknown Enemy) are robot mobile suits created by the Hino company 100 years in the future to assist in the development of the AGE System, with the ultimate goal to create the most powerful Gundam. A 100 years from now, a terrible enemy will be attacking Earth (not the U.E.), and Earth's technologies will be insufficient to meet this threat, facing total annihilation. This is the reason why the U.E. is attacking, in order to help produce a more powerful Gundam to save the future."

Thanks to Anonymous (posted under comment), more info was provided:
- UE avoid killing Flit on purpose for the above reasons, so they killed his mother instead to give him motive
- The actual final battle will be shown as a movie
- Yurin is an artificial newtype from the future. She is sent to support Flit and also, uh... bear his child, which will then become a hyper newtype. She is also designed to have looks that make Flit fall at the first sight

The mystery of this new Gundam series, is what interest me the most at this point. If the above info are true, it does shed some light on the events from the first 3 episodes, but at the same time it also raise more questions as well. Is there time traveling involve in this series? If the U.E. were created to help produce a powerful Gundam, with the goal to save Earth. Then why are they attacking and killing so many? Perhaps I am reading too much into this small piece of rumor, but certainly I look forward to watching the upcoming episodes with great interest.

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Some of the actions and comments of certain characters in the first few episodes would support this. However,

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The Hino Company. Really? I don't think Hino is that full of himself.

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However, there were some crazy ass "leaked plotlines" for 00 that never came true.

I guess we'll see soon enough.

Himu · « **Reply #37 on:** October 30, 2011, 08:56:18 PM »

Anyone watch ep 4?

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #38 on:** October 30, 2011, 09:31:37 PM »

I'm gonna watch it tonight after the wife goes to bed.

Himu · « **Reply #39 on:** October 30, 2011, 10:31:39 PM »

Wow, this new guy could use the good ol' Bright Noa treatment.

Himu · « **Reply #40 on:** October 30, 2011, 10:52:17 PM »

Cocky ACE pilot guy ain't so bad.

I liked this episode. It was a bit of a step down from episode 3, but still enjoyable.

Beezy · « **Reply #41 on:** October 31, 2011, 01:14:44 AM »

Finally watched the first episode yesterday. It's actually pretty good. The artstyle bothered me at first, but I really like it now. Finally something different from the Seed/00 artstyle in a new Gundam show.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #42 on:** November 04, 2011, 06:15:17 PM »

Finally got around to watching episode four. Still enjoying it.

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So maybe Grodek isn't part of the UE, based on his conversation to himself at the end of the episode.

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Bebpo · « **Reply #43 on:** November 05, 2011, 02:52:30 PM »

Caught up on ep3 & 4. Still good.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #44 on:** November 06, 2011, 02:51:03 PM »

Episode 5 is out:
http://www.kumby.com/gundam-age-episode-5/

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UE revealed?

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Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #45 on:** November 07, 2011, 01:14:08 AM »

Episode five... hmm...

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So we've got the Federation, the UE and now some organization called EDEN full of people in cloaks and Newtype children. Grodek appears to have his own motives, but he's not on the side of the UE and he's not the masked EDEN dude.

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Also, Flit is about as far from kiddy for a lead in Gundam. He's not whiny and wants to be a pilot. There is no indecision or "war is bad!" going on with this kid.

Himu · « **Reply #46 on:** November 07, 2011, 01:58:37 AM »

But it's Hino-fied Gundam. It's terrible.

Bebpo · « **Reply #47 on:** November 21, 2011, 03:09:02 AM »

Ep7

Ep6/7 have been pretty bad. Stupid arc and is super kiddy. And now Flit is LECTURING PEOPLE. What is it with every Gundam pilot standing around lecturing people to stop fightiing? I think I'm starting to prefer the silent leads like Setsuna/Heero at this point since they won't give me cool leads like Domon or Garrod anymore.

Man, AGE is sucking, Unicorn is sucking; it's so hard to be a gundam fan these days

Himu · « **Reply #48 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:24:58 PM »

Time to play catch up.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #49 on:** November 21, 2011, 12:29:24 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on November 21, 2011, 12:24:58 PM

Time to play catch up.

Yeah, I haven't watched 6 or 7 yet.

Momo · « **Reply #50 on:** November 21, 2011, 01:15:19 PM »

Came in here expecting pics of short pants Heero

Beezy · « **Reply #51 on:** November 21, 2011, 01:58:22 PM »

Yeah, 6 and 7 were pretty weak...

MCD · « **Reply #52 on:** November 21, 2011, 02:44:29 PM »

Time to re-watch 00 for the...I stopped counting already.

Bebpo · « **Reply #53 on:** November 29, 2011, 02:51:12 AM »

This show is so bad. The attacks are terrible and the mech designs suck. It feels like I'm watching digimon.

If the 2nd timeline doesn't get a bit more grown up and have decent mech designs, then they should just cancel it and get working on a real gundam instead. Hino sux.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #54 on:** November 29, 2011, 01:55:26 PM »

I'm still 3 episodes behind. I'll try to watch this week sometime.

Bebpo · « **Reply #55 on:** November 29, 2011, 02:30:51 PM »

I don't know if I could make it through the last 3 eps of this show back to back

Tasty · « **Reply #56 on:** December 06, 2011, 01:56:18 PM »

So Desil is the new Ribbons. Although even though he's 7, he's actually done something before the finale (actually pilot a damn mobile suit.)

I like Age. Thanks for recommending it to me Bore, would have missed it otherwise. I like 00 but it was let down by poor pacing and writing. Some of the writing problems are still in Age, but the pacing is a lot better. It's like they actually planned the series out!

I could take or leave the art style. It's not bad but not great either. Mech designs are meh, although the UE are interesting.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #57 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:06:08 AM »

I watched episodes 6 and 7 tonight. Pretty meh stuff, but not terrible. Nice to get some more background on the universe, especially that there have been previous Gundams. I'll probably get through 8, 9 and 10 tomorrow after work.

Himu · « **Reply #58 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:10:05 AM »

what's the best fan subber for Gundam AGE so I can catch up tomorrow

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #59 on:** December 14, 2011, 02:13:04 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on December 14, 2011, 02:10:05 AM

what's the best fan subber for Gundam AGE so I can catch up tomorrow

I've been using Sage's 720p encodes, but they have this shitty ass "lulz we're translators" shit that pops up in the text from time to time. If you can find someone who is using Bandai/Sunrise's English sub script, that's probably your best bet.

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Author Topic: Mr. Gundam, Himuro and Bebpo present: The Superior Gundam Thread (Read 14387 times)