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« Reply #1740 on: February 08, 2013, 06:37:12 AM »
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Sure, but then again if you look at top sellers on steam half of them is PC only anwyay so can do fine without console.
Yeah but everything except Valve games could easily be on other services/devices.Omerta is on 360 also btw
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« Reply #1741 on: February 08, 2013, 06:41:44 AM »
Sure it could, but Im just saying even if Steam wouldnt get the big budget games that are financed by console releases it would still be very viable to huge numbers of people.

If consoles and those big games died out, this would still be there and prob grow bigger.
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« Reply #1742 on: February 08, 2013, 06:59:55 AM »
I think traditional console business is on its way out.The question is just what will survive?
My bet is on a bunch of digital or semi-digital* ecosystems/services that will directly compete for consumers money.

*games will grow in size and downloading 50GB or more(multiple discs,who knows what some crazy people will do) will be a big problem for lots of people
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« Reply #1743 on: February 08, 2013, 07:14:11 AM »
3 Counter Strike games  :-\

It maybe wishful thinking, but I think there are good reasons that pc gaming will be great next gen.

Console ports have been coming to steam regularly to steam for the last couple of years and even though we don't have numbers they at least seem to nicely compliment console game sales or publishers would have stopped doing them now. Actually more and more games of even pc shy developers are coming to steam. Why should this stop just because there is a new generation coming? Tech wise the gap between consoles and pcs seem to be smaller than ever, both parts and power wise (somebody call me out on that if I'm wrong, this is at least the impression I get from reading about the leaks so far).

What could be problematic is if MS and Sony actually run with this no used games policy and the market accepts that without a change in pricing structure. I doubt that but who knows. Maybe then publishers wouldn't be willing to sell steam games heavily discounted like they are now. On the other hand no used games on consoles would probably mean that all budget sensitive games would go for for Pc so the market on the pc would increase. Other negative points could be that publishers hold back on pc ports because they want to accelerate console market growth (no idea if publishers would actually do this, you could also argue that they would need the pc market money even more as long as the console market is small) and that desktop sales in general are declining although that doesn't seem to have hit steam so far.

This is all different from the last generation change. Were there was no healthy economic market on the pc, were pc ports weren't a standard procedure in develoment, were pc shy japanese developers were more important.

The biggest threat to pc gaming is probably the console market bombing so that nothing to port would actually exist.
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Re: Next next gen thread of stupid rumors;no used games for next Xbox
« Reply #1744 on: February 08, 2013, 07:44:53 AM »
I think traditional console business is on its way out.The question is just what will survive?
My bet is on a bunch of digital or semi-digital* ecosystems/services that will directly compete for consumers money.

*games will grow in size and downloading 50GB or more(multiple discs,who knows what some crazy people will do) will be a big problem for lots of people

I dont think games will grow that much, stuff like Witcher 2 is only 18gb and that has textures that are higher rez then you need for consoles.

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« Reply #1745 on: February 08, 2013, 07:54:42 AM »
PS4 "Kinect"
http://www.vgleaks.com/orbis-dual-camera-whats-this/
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It contains a pair of wide-angle cameras. Each camera offers a resolution of 1280 x 720 pixels (720p).

Sound is processed by a 4 microphone array working at 48 Khz.

The device can perform some non gaming tasks such as:

- Recognize the user and log in the system

- Video chat

In the gaming field it supports head and hand tracking as new game inputs.Currently it's not clear if this device will support body tracking in the future as Kinect but it's almost sure that it will be bundled with every Orbis system.

poor sfeggits
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« Reply #1746 on: February 08, 2013, 07:56:36 AM »
This will be the worst gen ever between durango/orbis and wiiu.

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« Reply #1747 on: February 08, 2013, 08:02:45 AM »
now you can record and upload funny youtube videos of yourself getting literally hopping mad over the realization you're stuck with that $60 turd you just bought
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« Reply #1748 on: February 08, 2013, 08:05:32 AM »
Hopefully it's a decent camera this time.  PS eye was a piece of shit.
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« Reply #1749 on: February 08, 2013, 08:09:54 AM »
this is dumb as fuck

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« Reply #1750 on: February 08, 2013, 08:20:48 AM »
PS4 "Kinect"
http://www.vgleaks.com/orbis-dual-camera-whats-this/
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It contains a pair of wide-angle cameras. Each camera offers a resolution of 1280 x 720 pixels (720p).

Sound is processed by a 4 microphone array working at 48 Khz.

The device can perform some non gaming tasks such as:

- Recognize the user and log in the system

- Video chat

In the gaming field it supports head and hand tracking as new game inputs.Currently it's not clear if this device will support body tracking in the future as Kinect but it's almost sure that it will be bundled with every Orbis system.

poor sfeggits
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« Reply #1751 on: February 08, 2013, 08:40:05 AM »
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« Reply #1752 on: February 08, 2013, 09:27:57 AM »
Sony is doing a Kinect now? They need to throw all sense of shame out the window and offer a gamepad. Make it a premium accessory that lets you stream every game to it. Give it a nice OLED screen like the vita. Heck, make it the vita XL - full PS4 controls and streaming plus full vita support.

I'd buy one for whatever exorbitant price they charge :'( I love my Wii U's gamepad, the one saving grace of that system. I think Nintendo is on to something with local streaming, I'm interested to see how project shield turns out
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« Reply #1753 on: February 08, 2013, 10:35:22 AM »
the 720 is gonna be loaded up with so much non-game shit and hide everything behind a pay wall and won't have used games.  PS4 won't be BC and is gonna have a cornucopia of Sony's half-assed implementations of other people's ideas and also might not have used games.   


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« Reply #1754 on: February 08, 2013, 10:45:43 AM »
MY plan for the next gen of gaming looks like this:

- No actual free time to speak of
- Buy all next gen consoles and handhelds
- Buy all of the good games that come out for it
- I'll say to myself "I'm going to play through these games one day"
- Never do but keep buying games anyway

Same exact thing for me, too...
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« Reply #1755 on: February 08, 2013, 11:27:12 AM »
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Sure, but then again if you look at top sellers on steam half of them is PC only anwyay so can do fine without console.
Yeah but everything except Valve games could easily be on other services/devices.Omerta is on 360 also btw

The Valve games ARE on consoles, mostly
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« Reply #1756 on: February 08, 2013, 11:34:05 AM »
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Sure, but then again if you look at top sellers on steam half of them is PC only anwyay so can do fine without console.
Yeah but everything except Valve games could easily be on other services/devices.Omerta is on 360 also btw

The Valve games ARE on consoles, mostly

I know.

But are they on Origin?
Digital stuff
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« Reply #1757 on: February 08, 2013, 11:39:55 AM »
Mediocre hardware weighed down by casual crap and even more oppressive lockdown. Next gen's looking great. ::) Wonder how much those PS4 controllers will cost? $75?

I'm almost certain my 3DS, Vita, and PC will get more game time.

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« Reply #1758 on: February 08, 2013, 11:41:41 AM »
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Sure, but then again if you look at top sellers on steam half of them is PC only anwyay so can do fine without console.
Yeah but everything except Valve games could easily be on other services/devices.Omerta is on 360 also btw

The Valve games ARE on consoles, mostly

I know.

But are they on Origin?
Digital stuff

No-one gives a shit about Valve games being on Origin or not, get real
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« Reply #1759 on: February 08, 2013, 11:43:17 AM »
the 720 is gonna be loaded up with so much non-game shit and hide everything behind a pay wall and won't have used games.  PS4 won't be BC and is gonna have a cornucopia of Sony's half-assed implementations of other people's ideas and also might not have used games.

the pay wall always online shit is almost guaranteed to be FUD IMO. If I were a major console manufacturer right now, I'd probably be paying people to spread some FUD too.

They either both have it, or they both don't. No way they take such a potentially huge flaw and risk unilaterally.

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« Reply #1760 on: February 08, 2013, 11:52:00 AM »
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Sure, but then again if you look at top sellers on steam half of them is PC only anwyay so can do fine without console.
Yeah but everything except Valve games could easily be on other services/devices.Omerta is on 360 also btw

The Valve games ARE on consoles, mostly

I know.

But are they on Origin?
Digital stuff

No-one gives a shit about Valve games being on Origin or not, get real

Orgin was just an example of pure digital service,nothing more.I was just trying to say that things will get interesting when consoles grow up into hardware+pure digital service(ecosystem) things.
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« Reply #1761 on: February 08, 2013, 12:01:29 PM »
I think that's a vague and meaningless statement that I can agree with, yes. I doubt the barriers will all come down next gen though. Walled gardens will be the norm for a while.
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« Reply #1762 on: February 08, 2013, 12:29:04 PM »
Walled gardens will stay as long as the hardware is being built.I don't think Valve is making Steambox because they think that billions could be made on selling some cheap hardware.
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« Reply #1763 on: February 08, 2013, 01:40:27 PM »
http://www.videogamer.com/ps3/killzone_3/news/killzone_4_launching_on_playstation_4_releasing_in_2013.html
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Killzone 4 will release later this year on Sony's next-generation PlayStation, an industry source has told VideoGamer.com.

The unannounced game, which our source claims is currently in development at Guerrilla Games, could be revealed during PlayStation Meeting on February 20, where Sony is expected to unveil PlayStation 4.

Sony has tended to announce new games in Guerrilla's shooter series alongside its hardware reveals.

The platform holder released a trailer for Killzone 2 during the announcement of PlayStation 3 - something which was later criticised for being a "target render" rather than a true example of the console's capabilities.

It also confirmed that a Killzone title was in development for PlayStation Vita at the time of the handheld's announcement.

Our source's comments suggest that Killzone 4 could be a launch window title for the unannounced hardware, which is rumoured to go on sale by the end of 2013.

Guerrilla Games' latest release was Killzone 3, which released on PlayStation 3 in 2011. In addition to Killzone 4, the developer is known to be working on a new IP.

SCEE declined to comment when contacted by VideoGamer.com.

Shocked?


I saw some "insiders" nodding to this before and mentioning number 3(3 games for the event).
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« Reply #1764 on: February 08, 2013, 01:48:28 PM »
Killzone 4 with the launch isn't exactly reaching

I should start a website and leak easily guessable news
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« Reply #1765 on: February 08, 2013, 01:57:33 PM »
my plan for the next gen of gaming looks like this:

- play 3ds in rare moments of actual free time
- play iphone games the rest of the time
- buy whatever console my kid points at at christmas time
- play some fucking mario with him because he's gonna point at the nintendo one
- in the last year of the gen when my kid will be readying for university or already there, sneak myself a ps4 on the sly to play some ryu ga gotoku.  should be about six new ones by then.

MY plan for the next gen of gaming looks like this:

- No actual free time to speak of
- Buy all next gen consoles and handhelds
- Buy all of the good games that come out for it
- I'll say to myself "I'm going to play through these games one day"
- Never do but keep buying games anyway

This is why I'm getting only one console next gen, if any. I'm leaning on pc+3ds+mobile only, bububububu japanese games. So I'll see what the new consoles got first.
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« Reply #1766 on: February 08, 2013, 02:03:34 PM »
Not everyone I'm talking about has responded, or even posted in this thread. It's a common sentiment. People who've been through a number of gens know the score of course but I think people who are just jumping into PC gaming now are going to be pretty disappointed. There is a point in every console gen where PC gaming looks more attractive. Inevitably, that point passes. Maybe i'll be wrong and those people will still be happily gaming away on the PCs they bought in 2012 by the end of the next gen in 2020. I reallllllly doubt it though. In a couple of years, the pendulum will be back towards consoles. Sure, you can ignore that whole scene, more power to you. But I bet a lot of people won't, and will end up spending more than they planned because they 1) splurged on a gaming PC AND 2) bought into next-gen consoles.

Van Cruncheon, Treesong, Sho Nuff - I'm looking at you here. Next-gen will break you like mahfuckin BANE

hey, I never pretended I wasn't buying into next-gen!

my pretending is that I will choose one of Durango/Orbis and be happy with my choice. who needs both boxes hahaha
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« Reply #1767 on: February 08, 2013, 02:50:29 PM »
“We decided five or six years ago that we want to marry the quality of triple-A games with the business model of free-to-play,” Yerli told GamesBeat. “And out of that position, Gface and Warface were born. And at that time, we decided some other games, in some of our other studios, would head in this direction. But we kept pushing the quality bar higher on our console business, which is the main dominating business for the Western world, but we are observing, plainly — and we see this already with Warface — that the free-to-play market  is on the rise. I think over the next two to three years, free-to-play is going to rival retail with quality games like Warface.”

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« Reply #1768 on: February 08, 2013, 03:07:01 PM »
Warface
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« Reply #1769 on: February 08, 2013, 03:13:38 PM »
http://epicgames.com/community/2013/02/a-message-from-tim-sweeney/
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We’re closing Impossible Studios.

When former members of Big Huge Games approached Epic last year, we saw the opportunity to help a great group of people while putting them to work on a project that needed a team. It was a bold initiative and the Impossible folks made a gallant effort, but ultimately it wasn’t working out for Epic.

In addition to providing Impossible Studios employees with 3 months of severance pay, we’ll be giving the team the opportunity to form a new company with the Impossible Studios name and the awesome Impossibear logo.

This means that Infinity Blade: Dungeons is now on hold as we figure out the future of the project.

-Tim Sweeney, Founder, Epic Games

hmm

What exactly is happening inside  Epic?
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« Reply #1770 on: February 08, 2013, 03:25:20 PM »
So, they're going to close down Impossible Studios...and then reopen it? :wtf
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« Reply #1771 on: February 08, 2013, 03:35:40 PM »
“We decided five or six years ago that we want to marry the quality of triple-A games with the business model of free-to-play,” Yerli told GamesBeat. “And out of that position, Gface and Warface were born. And at that time, we decided some other games, in some of our other studios, would head in this direction. But we kept pushing the quality bar higher on our console business, which is the main dominating business for the Western world, but we are observing, plainly — and we see this already with Warface — that the free-to-play market  is on the rise. I think over the next two to three years, free-to-play is going to rival retail with quality games like Warface.”



If they can deliver games as polished as Dota 2 and consumer friendly as Path of Exile, I'm ok with this.

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« Reply #1772 on: February 08, 2013, 03:43:41 PM »
I just really hate the F2P model as a whole. It does work for some types of games, like MMOs [which I also hate] and action-RPGs with auction houses, but I really, really despise the notion that this is where the videogame industry is headed. I don't want to pick up a free copy of Dude Bro Shooter 11 and then be bombarded on both sides by the combined annoyances of pleas to purchase digital macguffins and the feeling that I don't actually have complete game sitting in front of me.

F2P is, for the most part, a thinly veiled excuse to charge people more than $60 for a full game.
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« Reply #1773 on: February 08, 2013, 03:51:37 PM »
It all depends on the business model in my opinion.

Purely cosmetic ala Dota 2 and Path of Exile?  You're awesome keep up the good work.

Some gameplay elements locked (but can be unlocked by playing) ala TF2 and League of Legends?  Ehh, not bad, but not great.

Gameplay elements entirely locked by a paywall ala Battlefield Heroes?  Fuck off.

Not every game needs to be F2P, but I think it's great for multiplayer titles not named Call of Duty.

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« Reply #1774 on: February 08, 2013, 04:16:35 PM »
good thing about games is that if the whole industry goes south, your potential backlog of good games worth playing is still more than a lifetime long.

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« Reply #1775 on: February 08, 2013, 04:20:06 PM »
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« Reply #1776 on: February 08, 2013, 04:24:13 PM »
An urban-targeted spinoff to be released next year called Blackface.
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« Reply #1777 on: February 08, 2013, 05:26:25 PM »
Not a big surprise. A bunch of launch 360 games were "HD ports" of last gen games launching around the same time.   Even Kameo and PDZ looked a bit like up-ports with an extra coat of glare and bloom thrown on it.  People were actually saying that the 360's graphics weren't significantly better than Xbox 1.  Oblivion blew some people away but I still felt like it looked like shit.  Dead Rising-- okay, a little better, there are a hundred different zombies on screen (unlike Kameo's one character model repeated a 100 times in those huge battles.)  But once Gears hit, the bar was knocked up 10 notches.   That took a year though!


Even before that at PS2 launch-- ICO is a PS1 port and it shows.

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« Reply #1778 on: February 08, 2013, 05:30:37 PM »
Yeah, I'm waiting for the gen of consoles that come with time semistasis chambers so you can have an RPG that takes 40 hours in your subjective experience but when you disconnect the wires from your brain and step out of the pod only half an hour has passed in the outside world and in terms of your body's aging.
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« Reply #1779 on: February 08, 2013, 05:37:31 PM »
Yeah, I'm waiting for the gen of consoles that come with time semistasis chambers so you can have an RPG that takes 40 hours in your subjective experience but when you disconnect the wires from your brain and step out of the pod only half an hour has passed in the outside world and in terms of your body's aging.
This would be a real game changer, except for the whole wire to brain thing.

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« Reply #1780 on: February 08, 2013, 05:38:36 PM »
Not a big surprise. A bunch of launch 360 games were "HD ports" of last gen games launching around the same time.   Even Kameo and PDZ looked a bit like up-ports with an extra coat of glare and bloom thrown on it.  People were actually saying that the 360's graphics weren't significantly better than Xbox 1.  Oblivion blew some people away but I still felt like it looked like shit.  Dead Rising-- okay, a little better, there are a hundred different zombies on screen (unlike Kameo's one character model repeated a 100 times in those huge battles.)  But once Gears hit, the bar was knocked up 10 notches.   That took a year though!


Even before that at PS2 launch-- ICO is a PS1 port and it shows.

GRAW was the first game to be wowowow next gen
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« Reply #1781 on: February 08, 2013, 05:38:49 PM »
Yeah, I'm waiting for the gen of consoles that come with time semistasis chambers so you can have an RPG that takes 40 hours in your subjective experience but when you disconnect the wires from your brain and step out of the pod only half an hour has passed in the outside world and in terms of your body's aging.
This would be a real game changer, except for the whole wire to brain thing.

Wire-to-brain is the wave of the future. Although, we will need to get to working on cyberbrains first.
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« Reply #1782 on: February 08, 2013, 07:41:03 PM »
Man, so much hostility to every UX innovation these days.
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« Reply #1783 on: February 08, 2013, 07:44:01 PM »
Yeah, I'm waiting for the gen of consoles that come with time semistasis chambers so you can have an RPG that takes 40 hours in your subjective experience but when you disconnect the wires from your brain and step out of the pod only half an hour has passed in the outside world and in terms of your body's aging.
This would be a real game changer, except for the whole wire to brain thing.

Wire-to-brain is the wave of the future. Although, we will need to get to working on cyberbrains first.

I hope we go wire-to-cock first.  I fear for the future of humanity once someone figures out a way to have very realistic simulated sex.
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« Reply #1784 on: February 08, 2013, 07:58:46 PM »
It will be OK once there is a great indie sex-simulation-as-art scene.
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« Reply #1785 on: February 08, 2013, 09:43:05 PM »
Xbox 720 launch games to not look any better than Crysis 3?

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Speaking to us last week about the calibre of his studio's upcoming shooter, Yerli said: "I don't think Crytek can do more on current generation consoles than Crysis 3. I actually think people will be astonished that next gen launch titles from other companies might not be much different from Crysis 3."

On his company's own efforts for new hardware, Yerli added: "Crytek's projects generally will be way above what we've achieved on the existing consoles."

Yerli also praised the work his team has done creating what he believes is a unique game world.

"Crysis 3 has its own visual identity, [the urban rainforest] is a world that hasn't been done before, that kind of depiction, the quality and level of immersion. I think no game has ever done that kind of setting, it's a visual spectacle.

"It has not even been done in Hollywood. People might suggest there are similarities with I Am Legend, but that is quite different to this. I Am Legend is overgrown, but Crysis 3's urban rainforest is a whole different level of that. It has its own identity and I'm very proud of what the team achieved in this regard."

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Enjoy your sub-1080p, sub-60 fps next-gen games looking like current PC games, maxy. Meanwhile they will be 1080p and 60fps on the PCs.

If he is saying these games won't look much better/perform much better than Crysis 3 currently does on the 360 or the PS 3 then he is full of crap. If he is saying these games will look similar to how they appear on current midline PC's then okay.
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Re: Next next gen thread of stupid rumors;some Sony "Kinect" details
« Reply #1786 on: February 08, 2013, 09:59:27 PM »
also intrigued how Borys turns 'next gen launch titles from other companies' into 'Xbox 720 launch games'
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« Reply #1787 on: February 08, 2013, 10:09:05 PM »
Xbox 720 launch games to not look any better than Crysis 3?

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Speaking to us last week about the calibre of his studio's upcoming shooter, Yerli said: "I don't think Crytek can do more on current generation consoles than Crysis 3. I actually think people will be astonished that next gen launch titles from other companies might not be much different from Crysis 3."

On his company's own efforts for new hardware, Yerli added: "Crytek's projects generally will be way above what we've achieved on the existing consoles."

Yerli also praised the work his team has done creating what he believes is a unique game world.

"Crysis 3 has its own visual identity, [the urban rainforest] is a world that hasn't been done before, that kind of depiction, the quality and level of immersion. I think no game has ever done that kind of setting, it's a visual spectacle.

"It has not even been done in Hollywood. People might suggest there are similarities with I Am Legend, but that is quite different to this. I Am Legend is overgrown, but Crysis 3's urban rainforest is a whole different level of that. It has its own identity and I'm very proud of what the team achieved in this regard."

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Enjoy your sub-1080p, sub-60 fps next-gen games looking like current PC games, maxy. Meanwhile they will be 1080p and 60fps on the PCs.

Crytek likes to talk a lot,they did the same with Crysis 2 and then delivered the game that drops to like 14fps on consoles.


If you are wondering about this video,there was some rumor about 720 ad campaign--blades were mentioned

Notice the music--The Killers
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Re: Next next gen thread of stupid rumors;some Sony "Kinect" details
« Reply #1788 on: February 09, 2013, 01:36:34 PM »
What is Bore stance on full mandatory installs next gen?

If leaked info is true,Durango will have 6X Bluray--that is about 30MB/s.Even with some heavy (de)compression it will take a while to fill multiple gigabytes.Full mandatory installs would also allow devs to pack the data on disc as tight as possible.

Use the hardrives to the max or have some compromise?
You will wait in either case.
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« Reply #1789 on: February 09, 2013, 01:54:03 PM »
didn't bother me too much on PS3 because it used standard laptop hard drives.  if xbox3 or ps4 use proprietary nonsense and it's like the xbox 360 (up until a couple years ago? it supports usb hard drives now, right?) then it'll get annoying.  I've installed every new 360 game I've played since whenever I could, but deleting them for space afterwards sucked.

That's more of a problem with managing limited storage than installing games.  Wii was gated at ~500 megs for years until a patch enabled SD card booting; I think that's where the fridge comments came from.

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« Reply #1790 on: February 09, 2013, 02:01:28 PM »
I think that MS will put Bungies new game behind XBL Gold, or do something like that. INCENTIVISING suckers to keep paying those money.
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« Reply #1791 on: February 09, 2013, 02:02:04 PM »
didn't bother me too much on PS3 because it used standard laptop hard drives.  if xbox3 or ps4 use proprietary nonsense and it's like the xbox 360 (up until a couple years ago? it supports usb hard drives now, right?) then it'll get annoying.  I've installed every new 360 game I've played since whenever I could, but deleting them for space afterwards sucked.

That's more of a problem with managing limited storage than installing games.  Wii was gated at ~500 megs for years until a patch enabled SD card booting; I think that's where the fridge comments came from.

Some leak said that Durango has 640GB hard drive,should be enough for a while.I suppose there will be some sku with much higher space.Proprietary is a certain thing for MS.

Sony,who knows but after Vita...
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Re: Next next gen thread of stupid rumors;some Sony "Kinect" details
« Reply #1792 on: February 09, 2013, 02:08:59 PM »
What is Bore stance on full mandatory installs next gen?

Don't care about installs.

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Re: Next next gen thread of stupid rumors;some Sony "Kinect" details
« Reply #1793 on: February 09, 2013, 02:11:22 PM »
I think that MS will put Bungies new game behind XBL Gold, or do something like that. INCENTIVISING suckers to keep paying those money.

Well,I think Live will(have to) change a lot.Maybe they will hold BC behind paywall,rumors say that 360 BC costed MS a lot.
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Re: Next next gen thread of stupid rumors;some Sony "Kinect" details
« Reply #1794 on: February 09, 2013, 02:18:59 PM »
Is PSN downloading still so fucking slow btw?

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« Reply #1795 on: February 09, 2013, 02:19:20 PM »
What is Bore stance on full mandatory installs next gen?

If leaked info is true,Durango will have 6X Bluray--that is about 30MB/s.Even with some heavy (de)compression it will take a while to fill multiple gigabytes.Full mandatory installs would also allow devs to pack the data on disc as tight as possible.

Use the hardrives to the max or have some compromise?
You will wait in either case.

Won't bug me at all as long as the HDD is upgradable in the PS4. I have a 1tb drive in my PS3 now.
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« Reply #1796 on: February 09, 2013, 02:37:18 PM »
didn't bother me too much on PS3 because it used standard laptop hard drives.  if xbox3 or ps4 use proprietary nonsense and it's like the xbox 360 (up until a couple years ago? it supports usb hard drives now, right?) then it'll get annoying.  I've installed every new 360 game I've played since whenever I could, but deleting them for space afterwards sucked.

That's more of a problem with managing limited storage than installing games.  Wii was gated at ~500 megs for years until a patch enabled SD card booting; I think that's where the fridge comments came from.

Some leak said that Durango has 640GB hard drive,should be enough for a while.I suppose there will be some sku with much higher space.Proprietary is a certain thing for MS.

Sony,who knows but after Vita...

yeah, 640GB might be enough unless games are huge and everything is a full install.  Max Payne 3 and Rage both push 30 gigs on PC.  More than a few PS3 retail games on PSN are north of 10.  Killzone 3 and Uncharted 3 are, allegedly, 40+ gigs.  I think one of the jrpg on 360 is on three DVDs.

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Re: Next next gen thread of stupid rumors;some Sony "Kinect" details
« Reply #1797 on: February 09, 2013, 03:56:58 PM »
Why would games have to install if they have 8GB of RAM? Wouldn't that be enough buffer space to stream off the disk?
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« Reply #1798 on: February 09, 2013, 04:08:20 PM »
For the same reason you have installs on PC machines.
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« Reply #1799 on: February 10, 2013, 03:18:42 AM »
It will certainly be interesting to see what happens.Then again I think this industry has not much time left if it continues business as usual,used games or not.Desperate times,desperate measures?

We are probably likely to see fully digital skus too.Would you buy PS4 without disc drive,Borys?

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