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Re: MASS EFFECT 3 |OT|
« Reply #420 on: March 11, 2012, 11:12:31 PM »
Mass Effect 3 multi isn't even competitive, it's co-op; why do they care if you hack it...oh wait...nevermind...I know...


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« Reply #421 on: March 11, 2012, 11:19:07 PM »
You can get Jarvik as a squad member on the PC version without buying the DLC, all you have do is edit a line of code in a file somewhere. Good jon, Bioware. :lol

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You don't get his missions and you can't talk to him on the Normandy or the Citadel, not sure about whether he shows up in cutscenes or not.
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« Reply #422 on: March 11, 2012, 11:37:39 PM »
Luckily I create new save points a lot.

I have a save right before the "point of no return" mission. I'm gonna just redo it later and go back and scan the FUCK out of the galaxy. and if any reapers decide to get alerted to my presence then i'll just let them kill me so i can reload back into the same exact spot with no consequence whatsoever because the mechanic is CRAP CRAP CRAP :maf


BTW I think ME3 has better character moments than ME2 and 1. The scene where (Liara and Shep):
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the combat scenarios are also the best in the series and actually fun.

disappointing that there aren't any places to go and walk around (IG: Illium, Omega, etc). Just the Citadel.

Unfortunate they had to fill the game up with a lot of bullcrap.
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« Reply #423 on: March 11, 2012, 11:38:01 PM »
theres already trainers to hack you infite credits, bioware are total inept
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« Reply #424 on: March 12, 2012, 12:01:54 AM »
Mass Effect 3 multi isn't even competitive, it's co-op; why do they care if you hack it...oh wait...nevermind...I know...


yeah, I noticed that watching the giantbomb quicklook earlier today.  SSX has it too. are games really doing this now  :-\


actually, most of what Jeff said in the quicklook is very close to what I thought about the game.

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« Reply #425 on: March 12, 2012, 01:12:25 AM »
Fun stuff about the Mass Effect 3 ending [all shamelessly stolen because there's no way I'm typing all this out myself]:

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All endings
1) So the Mass Relays are destroyed in every outcome. Doesn't this mean the united galactic flotillas I gathered are stranded on Earth? If so, the Quarians, Volus and Turians are screwed because there is no dextro-amino (or whatever it was) food for them.
2) How does Shepard survive in space without any air? I didn't see a dome or ... anything that would indicate there was air during your conversation with the Deus Ex Child
3) So ... the synthetics are destroying organics in order to prevent synthetics from destroying organics ... To quote GLaDOS "Don't think about it, don't think about it ..."
4) Why can't I use Joker/EDI or Geth/Quarians as an argument agains the God Child's logic?
5) The God Child said that someone built the Reapers ... when? And for what purpose?
6) Didn't Arrival teach us that destroying a Mass Relay will result in the destruction of an entire solar system? Is that sill valid here? (Why not?)
7) What happened to my squadmates in the final mission? Did they really just abandon one of their closest friends? And why was Joker fleeing from Earth?

Destroy
1) So I destroy every piece of machinery in the galaxy, sending every known race back at least 1000 years (or so). But what about the Quarians and the Volus? They can't live without their suits. So if I choose this option, I'm committing double genocide ... (to my wife no less)
2) The Geth also die ... but didn't Tali said that the Geth blur the line between synthetic and organics?

Control
1) So ... WHY is the cycle inevitable again? Quarians and Geth? Joker and EDI? ... nothing?

Synthesis
1) How does this actually work?
2) If everything is part synthetic now, and everything is part syntetic, do those units have souls?
3) How do different races react to this?
4) How do the quarians survive?
5) How does this affect the culture and life of everyone? Is there peace now? Are there wars? Does this affect emotions? Love, Hate, Fear, Friendship?
6) Does this affect intellect? Does it make everyone smarter?
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So the GREAT BIG REASON the reapers were here, the reason that no MORTAL MIND could POSSIBLY FATHOM was... the reapers were killing/assimilating advanced cultures so they don't make synthetics and kill themselves. Because "the created will always rebel against their creators". So I guess the Geth now cooperating with the Quarians was a fluke and we should all ignore that because it OBVIOUSLY wasn't supposed to happen. I mean, nevermind the redundancy of killing something as a solution to it killing itself.
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Aren't the Quarian's suits partially synthetic? And the Volus? By destroying synthetic life, did I just kill Tali, Miranda, and Grunt (all relying on some form of "created" tech) and commit genocide three times over?

Did I just strand the combined military forces of the entire galaxy in the Sol System? The entire Quarian Flotilla (if they aren't all dead) will never see the homeworld that I JUST FUCKING FOUGHT TO WIN BACK?!? Don't Turian and Krogan DNA rely on a form of food that doesn't exist in the Sol System? Did I just effectively commit Krogan, Quarian, Geth, Volus, and Turian genocide?
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We're talking about a magical explosion spanning the entire galaxy that somehow infuses organic DNA with synthetics and vice versa, and we get no more than 6 words on it. Wow. Just, wow. Sit for a moment and bask in the simple-mindedness of BioWare.
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God's a robot who's been stalking your dreams. He wants other BIG robots to kill you so that other small robots don't. But you're so uber cool that he's gonna let you decide between three apocalypses. In the first you send existence back to the stone age, most likely killing asstons of everything in the process, then synthetics kill everything a few millennia down the road. In the second you kill yourself and you get to ass up his plans and basically play god with the universe from then on. In the third "right" choice. 99.9% of everything dies, the stuff that doesn't gets megadosed on hallucinogens and grows circuitry on their skin... which makes them part organic part synthetic, thereafter... utopia... Oh ya, but you're dead. And your lover gets to have three ways on an uninhabited planet with a cripple and a spaceship.
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« Reply #426 on: March 12, 2012, 08:36:58 AM »
So, any news about a patch that will fix the bugged Hanar quest?
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« Reply #427 on: March 12, 2012, 08:41:27 AM »
So, any news about a patch that will fix the bugged Hanar quest?

there's another bugged quest? i just heard they screwed up the italian version and the game freeze if you attempt the grissom academy quest :lol :lol :lol

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« Reply #428 on: March 12, 2012, 09:51:32 AM »
Yeah, if you start the Hanar Diplomat quest but then you do another quest before completing it, the Hanar quest takes a big steaming dump.
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« Reply #429 on: March 12, 2012, 10:07:35 AM »
But wait guys,

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Shepard is still alive if you have a high enough effectiveness rating...EVEN THOUGH THAT DOESN'T MANY ANY FUCKING SENSE.
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I still can't see how anyone that actually likes Mass Effect is okay with the endings. I feel okay in calling ME my Star Wars because just like how George Lucas fucked over generations with the prequels, edits, and all that other junk he signed off on, Bioware has effectively killed any interest I have in DLC or games. I just know they aren't going to address this in a meaningful way.

They'll just say this is what they wanted out of the ending and to go buy all that DLC that takes place before the end (even if again, it makes no sense).

Oh and listen to this cut dialog. Good thing they cut this or the ending would have stung worse.

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GODDAMN YOU BIOWARE. I CURSE YOU.


Edit: I'm really sorry about this. Ive just, never been so pissed off and sad about a piece of media before.

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« Reply #430 on: March 12, 2012, 10:34:38 AM »
Being so close to the end, I'm kinda thinking I know how they will end it. Unless they throw an absurd curveball at me.

I've seen a few references to:
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Deus Ex
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that would make sense. I'm just happy I got to spend time with Tali. My Tali.
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« Reply #431 on: March 12, 2012, 11:15:32 AM »
At least be passionate about a series with a good story, like Assassin's Creed.
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« Reply #432 on: March 12, 2012, 02:54:42 PM »
Yeah, if you start the Hanar Diplomat quest but then you do another quest before completing it, the Hanar quest takes a big steaming dump.
Ugh. I went around talking to people in the Citadel after starting this and I had no idea what I was looking for, so I left.

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« Reply #433 on: March 12, 2012, 03:32:44 PM »
Which quest are you guys talking about?
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« Reply #434 on: March 12, 2012, 03:33:54 PM »
Got to Tuchanka last night. Running through the Turian rescue mission first.
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« Reply #435 on: March 12, 2012, 04:17:34 PM »
I'll finish tonight. I'm on the final mission.

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« Reply #436 on: March 12, 2012, 05:30:42 PM »
Which quest are you guys talking about?

The one where you hack the terminals to get evidence that the Hanar diplomat has been indoctrinated. It's where you meet up with Kasumi.
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« Reply #437 on: March 12, 2012, 07:43:27 PM »
So about Kelly Chambers...


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Did Bioware really just kill her off-screen? She was my dancing partner, dammit!

And to top it of, that new woman with the British accent that took her place is a lesbo. Like hell I am going to play as a female Shepard.
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And does Ashley ever talk in the Normandy? She's basically a DLC like character now.  :lol

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« Reply #438 on: March 12, 2012, 07:52:21 PM »
So about Kelly Chambers...


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Did Bioware really just kill her off-screen? She was my dancing partner, dammit!

And to top it of, that new woman with the British accent that took her place is a lesbo. Like hell I am going to play as a female Shepard.
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And does Ashley ever talk in the Normandy? She's basically a DLC like character now.  :lol

Ya, Ash is pretty lame so far. 

Re: Chambers

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When you first meet Chambers on the Citadel, there's a dialog option to recommend she change her appearance.  I didn't choose it, but I wonder if you do, perhaps that leads her to live through the Cerberus attack?
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« Reply #439 on: March 12, 2012, 08:07:42 PM »
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i like how she doesnt even appear on the "dead" list on the normandy  :lol
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« Reply #440 on: March 12, 2012, 08:09:43 PM »
superior mass effect 3 ending:

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« Reply #441 on: March 12, 2012, 08:34:43 PM »


haven't seen one of these in a while :lol

i only played the first mass effect but now i'm curious,what's the ending exactly? why people think it's so bad?
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« Reply #442 on: March 12, 2012, 08:37:46 PM »
Because
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« Reply #443 on: March 12, 2012, 08:38:12 PM »
So about Kelly Chambers...


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Did Bioware really just kill her off-screen? She was my dancing partner, dammit!

And to top it of, that new woman with the British accent that took her place is a lesbo. Like hell I am going to play as a female Shepard.
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And does Ashley ever talk in the Normandy? She's basically a DLC like character now.  :lol

Ya, Ash is pretty lame so far. 

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When you first meet Chambers on the Citadel, there's a dialog option to recommend she change her appearance.  I didn't choose it, but I wonder if you do, perhaps that leads her to live through the Cerberus attack?
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Oh that option. Yeah, I didn't choose it either. Total Paragon cigarillo here.

I even hugged her man.

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« Reply #444 on: March 12, 2012, 08:45:25 PM »


haven't seen one of these in a while :lol

i only played the first mass effect but now i'm curious,what's the ending exactly? why people think it's so bad?

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It boils a trilogy full of player choices into three boring, nonsensical choices that all result in pretty much the same ending scene. Also the entire game universe is totally ruined because of space magic.
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« Reply #445 on: March 12, 2012, 09:11:00 PM »
So uhh, I'm kind of at a standstill as to what I should do.
-Do I wait around for a patch to fix the Hanar mission?
-Do I just plough through the game so I can see for myself how bad the ending is?

How long do Bioware usually take for these things? I played ME1 for the first time early 2010, and ME2 about 1-2 months after its release (and never bothered with Dragon Age at all). This is the first ME I bought on launch day.

I have my share of complaints with the game but as of now, the game is a lot better than I was expecting. I just don't like:
-JAMES VEGA, I play fantasy games to escape reality, this game takes place in outerspace in the 22nd century, not Neptunes on Long Island in 2007.
-BUGGED QUEST!  :maf
-Having your armor equip/weapon equip/battle readiness chart/terminal be spread out all over the Normandy. Why can't I access these all from one place, or from the main menu?
-Journal is terrible in this game. You want to see a good Journal, play the Witcher games. They are easily filter-able and track down every fart you take during a mission.
-Don't like the way you get quests by snooping in on conversations... you should at least have to trigger them by talking to the NPCs first. I have some quests that I just got, where I could barely hear what the hell I'm supposed to do... why does this Salarian need this heater item?
-Scanning and galaxy traversal feels real superfluous, along with micromanaging fuel. I prefer the ME1 method of selecting planets instead of flying the ship around and having to worry about micromanaging fuel.
-Why do I only have a map in the Citadel and Normandy, and not on missions?

What I do like:
-Environments are a bit more detailed and much better designed than 2.
-Game control feels a bit smoother than 2.
-Missions and sidequests have a good deal more variety than 2.
-Brought back some great ME1 music.
-Lots of fanservice for people who played 1 and 2.
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« Reply #446 on: March 12, 2012, 09:16:44 PM »
BioWare are infamously slow with fixing any PC problems if youre playing on PC. Dragon Age still has severe memory leaks that where there since launch and I don't think Mass Effect 2 ever got a single patch.
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« Reply #447 on: March 12, 2012, 10:18:02 PM »
Tiesto, I don't think broken missions ever got fixed in the 360 versions of the previous games.

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« Reply #448 on: March 12, 2012, 11:25:38 PM »
BioWare are infamously slow with fixing any PC problems if youre playing on PC. Dragon Age still has severe memory leaks that where there since launch and I don't think Mass Effect 2 ever got a single patch.

There were two patches for ME2.

and none of them fixed any issues; they where there to allow you to buy the DLC.
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« Reply #450 on: March 13, 2012, 01:47:27 AM »
So boogie, you were right about Chambers. And now my save is imperfect. Fuck my life.

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« Reply #451 on: March 13, 2012, 01:48:52 AM »
Finished the game this evening. My thoughts are as follows.

I don't have an issue with the ending from a storytelling standpoint. I'm not even gonna argue that aspect with people. It's an opinion thing. And I don't think any opinion on it is right or wrong so arguing about it is sort of pointless outside of expressing how you feel about it which we all certainly have that itch to scratch. Personally I thought my ending was
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kinda artsy and ambiguous and I kinda like that sorta thing but I see how others wouldn't. Or just simply for their own valid reasons didn't like it or didn't think it was the right ending or didn't make sense,  or wasn't expansive enough etc.
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So that's kinda that on that front. Everybody is gonna have their opinions on those things so its a waste of time to overly spend time on it for me. Reminds me of the kerfuffle that went on about the ending to BSG.

Now the part that I do find very disagreeable and makes me angry is the readiness rating. Now that to me is horse crap. And poorly designed at worse and disingenuous at best. When fistful was talking about this earlier I regret posting what I did and that bioware quote because its utterly misleading and just shows I was the one who didn't understand the system. I'm gonna leave all this unspoilered but not give anyway any details except mechanical ones because I feel you need to know this stuff if you are legit going for the full experience.


 I didn't really get that my effective military strength number is reduced due to my readiness rating. I did a lot of side missions I felt and scanned as much as interested me for artifacts and ended up with a military strength of 6291. But an effective military strength of 3522.  I had a readiness rating of 56% because I did two multiplayer sessions because I legit like the multiplayer stuff. But I said to myself you know I feel like this is spoiling the single player a bit because I'm seeing monsters I haven't seen in the campaign yet. So i stopped. Not because I didn't like it. But because I said I'll do this after I complete the single player for fun.

So I got to the end of the game and I was a little confused because let's say I couldn't choose certain actions that would have impacted things. So I look up why and its because to do those things you need an effective military strength of >4k and >5k. So fucking tell me that Bioware. Put it in the game. Why hide that? In ME 2 you needed all that stuff outfitted on your ship but they gave you a bit long list of it. So you just did it all. Hiding that you need those explicit number values to get the "best" ending or all the choices is just awful. Because its not even hiding them like in quests or prior decisions you've made. Its simply hiding them to be hiding them. And scanning in this game is awful because its boring. Yeah its boring in ME 2 because its grinding but at least you know what you are grinding for and the specific value amount you need to grind to. If I would have understood that I needed >5k effective military strength I would have just played the multiplayer which I don't have a problem doing. I like it. But I feel lied to with all this stuff about you don't need to do the multiplayer, it can all be done in the singleplayer. I guess. But its boring as fuck not to mention certain quests are broken which is directly their fault which could have increased my military rating more. Plus you still don't know exactly how many you need.

So yeah that's awful design on their aspect. They communicated this aspect very poorly through PR and in game because they designed a very boring way to collect war assets for the most part and then were scared people would get mad about putting in multiplayer so they kept saying you don't have to touch multiplayer.

Well this could have fixed in two ways.

Design better missions and ways to collect war assets or be fucking honest about multiplayer and say hey, you probably want to do this because the other way in sp is really boring. And we are not going to tell you exactly how many you need. We'll just give you a number and a graph that has no frame of reference. Fucking awful. You put in the multiplayer component. It's fun. Stand behind it and tell the truth. Don't add something like you're fucking embarrassed about it. Stand behind your product. If you're going to put that dumb ass green bar at the bottom of the screen then have that represent the amount you need to get the "best" ending/all the choices at the end. Not what it is right now.

I really enjoyed the game. Don't have a problem with the ending. Some great moments all through out. But that aspect really angers me. Now I feel like I also need to replay the last bit just to have the "choices" and hear the dialogue and see the things
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So what I'll say to anybody playing the game right now. Make sure your Effective military strength value is >5k so you have the flexibility to get all your options at the end of the game. Whether you get it by scanning every system in the game or playing the multiplayer is up to you.

I'll probably make a longer post when I get more free time about what I liked. And what I didn't like. Because I legit like a ton. Was really engaging and picked up story-wise in the second half and the combat was really fun for me. But that ending mechanic really angered me. Not the ending itself. But the mechanic of it. Really poor design there.

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« Reply #452 on: March 13, 2012, 02:34:24 AM »
Great impressions Stoney.

I don't have any intention to start some argument but as someone that's okay with the ending, can you at least see why people feel it's disconnected from the rest of the game? Did it feel that way to you or did you think it matched up seamlessly?

And yeah the readiness rating bullshit is another issue I have with the ending. It really doesn't matter at all and getting the percentage extremely high (under the assumption that like in ME2, it changes a great deal) is such a tedious and lame process if you don't touch the multiplayer. The co-op is a nice idea but I really didn't want to play with a bunch of strangers calling me dickshit or ruining key points of the game for me.

Ignoring my issues with the ending, I really like Mass Effect 3 and the character interactions within the game. They're really well done and I enjoy just going around talking to people. I just, really hate all the scanning stuff. It's better designed but still slow as fuck all and kills the flow of the game. Not to mention I never understood the awareness level of the reapers. The bar just fills up an incredible amount so you either let them catch you and start over or you scan and then come back after you do a mission.

I'll say this about the co-op as someone who played a lot of it in the demo. I think its really fun. And in all the demo time I spent playing it people were actually pretty respectful relatively speaking. Competitive MP (deathmatch type stuff) no matter what the game or the platform is what tends to make people very combatative. It can still happen in co-operative co-op especially when a game develops an insider-ish crowd but I think generally speaking people are generally nicer in that venue. Especially to lower ranker players.

As far as the ending.

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If I was to guess about people who didn't like the ending, two approaches make sort of legit sense to me as far as criticism. That's not to say these are the only two. Just the two that spring to mind for me. I think there is a large group of people who probably want an ending that sorts of shows what happened to everybody after this is over. Like at the end of New Vegas where it shows what happened to pretty much everybody in the game but done Mass Effect style. I think gamers tend to love these kind of endings because we get very attached to these characters as we play these games for long lengths of time. And especially in a series where you've really grown attached to characters over three games. I think that's a valid and understandable criticism although I personally don't need that type of ending for every game and I actually like that this kinds of cuts it off. I've spent all the time with the characters and learned about them. I don't need to see cutscene after cutscene showing Garrus on a farm 20 years down the road and hear the annoucer say he lived happily ever after. Some games need that. I don't feel like this game does because I've already interacted with them so much.

The other valid criticism that rings more true to my ears is that this series has sometimes spent really long stretches explaining relatively minor things but things that give color to the universe. They've done this just because its interesting in many cases. To end the game with the most monumental choices a person could make with relatively little preamble or long expository doesn't seem appropriate to Mass Effect. It seems a bit too fast. Why can't I ask questions like in nearly every other situation possible that has occurred in these three games. I get the idea of crafting a scene and getting in late and exiting early  but I think in this case we excited too early. This is a case where I think they could/should have spent more time talking to the "child" at the end of the game. I wanted more explanation. I'm not a person who needs every dot to connect in a story. I don't even mind mystical type stuff as I think its a flaw sometimes to try to explain everything via logic. But whatever approach you take you need to sell me on it that you're committed to it. Either by tone or by just taking the time sometimes. I think this got the tone right but skimped on the taking the time to convince me part.
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« Reply #453 on: March 13, 2012, 09:58:21 AM »
Finished the game.I would give it 8/10.

Game is good but way too restrictive for my liking.This is not Mass Effect that I love.Somehow it just lost the magic.
I have no problem with the ending(s),that is the way it should be.The are no happy endings in wars,just death and pain.

Also,random gossip fetch mission spam inventor should be shot.

One thing is for sure,I won't be replaying this and that is coming from someone that replayed ME2 seven times.
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« Reply #454 on: March 13, 2012, 10:07:56 AM »
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I'm not even upset that there's no happy ending, I'm upset that the only difference between the three ending is different colored space magic.
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« Reply #455 on: March 13, 2012, 10:16:54 AM »
Datapad app is out. Nice that it allows you to listen to the codex entries in game and read the non audio ones. I didn't like that viewer in game. It's free.

http://itunes.apple.com/app/mass-effect-3-datapad/id506847903?mt=8

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Re: MASS EFFECT 3 |OT|
« Reply #456 on: March 13, 2012, 11:34:46 AM »
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Seriously, fire whoever thought this was a good idea.

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Re: MASS EFFECT 3 |OT|
« Reply #457 on: March 13, 2012, 11:53:27 AM »
Wow you guys I did it!!!

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I laughed at the bit in the credits that said "some photographs courtesy of GettyImages."

They still haven't figured out what to do with the galaxy map? Watching a toy Normandy getting chased by toy Reapers is lol. No penalty for fucking up either. What's the point.

Speaking of what's the point, that Kai Leng guy was so dumb.

I normally feel weird about celeb actors voicing video game characters because the writing is so bad and they're obviously half-assing it for an easy paycheck. Ever play a Bethesda game? Shit is unendurable. But man, Martin Sheen killed it here. His last scene was so good. Dude was probably half-assing it anyway and he still delivered way beyond the call of duty.

Combat is SO GOOD. Holy shit I biotic charge into anything and everything and then pause the game and figure out how to get out of the mess I just put myself in. The biggest mistake you can make in Mass Effect, other than taking it too seriously, is to play it like a cover-based third person shooter.

I know that "your choices don't matter in the end" and all that, but it's still crazy how many permutations are going on in any given scene based on who's in your party and what you've done (years) previously. They really nailed role playing in a way, even if that way is simplistic or even base. There's a good reason people refer to him/her as "my" Shepard.


Anyway, love the big Hollywood emotions, love the combat more than ever, yet so many things are laughably and unconscionably wappy that you need to distance yourself a bit from what's going on to get max possible enjoyment. Good game, took me ten hours less to complete than ME1 and 2.
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« Reply #458 on: March 13, 2012, 12:01:09 PM »
You may want to spoiler tag some of that. Or maybe not. I don't really care or know how others feel.

The combat is great imo. I played almost single handed with biotics which I felt like wasn't really as viable in the prior games. My guns were only an occasional thing. Playing on hardcore felt like the right experience. Still easy for most of it with the nice occasional challenging difficulty spike. I really enjoyed it and they introduced more varied enemies than prior games.


And I agree. Martin Sheen killed it in both games. The difference between someone like him and say Freddie Prinze Jr is staggering. Keith David also rocks it but then he always does so its not a surprise or anything.

As far as
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Kai Leng. He's pretty different than he was in the books. He's more comic bookish here. In the books he just came off as a cold blooded merc. I think that approach is cooler.
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« Reply #459 on: March 13, 2012, 12:12:58 PM »
Yeah Keith David was great as well. Both him and Sheen played a huge part in not souring me on the ending. I don't think that's too much of a spoiler.

My strategy for most of the tougher enemies hardly involved guns at all. Use powers to take out shield/barrier, use Warp to weaken armor, run over and use Nova for massive damage, roll out of the way, Biotic charge to recharge my shield. Pop and shoot isn't nearly as much fun.
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Re: MASS EFFECT 3 |OT|
« Reply #460 on: March 13, 2012, 02:17:23 PM »
so i guess i will probably spend this week playing multiplayer so i can guarantee that i get the best ending. mother fucker.
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« Reply #461 on: March 13, 2012, 02:32:54 PM »
Finished up everything on Tuchanka last night. How far into the game am I?
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Re: MASS EFFECT 3 |OT|
« Reply #462 on: March 13, 2012, 02:42:54 PM »
Finished up everything on Tuchanka last night. How far into the game am I?

About halfway, I think.
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« Reply #463 on: March 13, 2012, 09:47:14 PM »
Hate how they made 70% of the conversations at the Normandy into non interactive chats. Hate how there is only one City.

It's obvious how the Multiplayer downgraded the main campaign. BUT, the gameplay is far more enjoyable IMO.

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« Reply #464 on: March 13, 2012, 10:56:15 PM »
So.... who didn't make Udina the council member in their game?

Half-way through game spoilers...

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Does Anderson side with Ceberus and betray you? Does Ashley kill him?
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« Reply #465 on: March 13, 2012, 11:07:06 PM »
No they write it out before hand that Anderson steps down and Udina takes over as Ambassador, no matter what you choose.

That isn't a spoiler either, its pre ME3 cannon
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« Reply #466 on: March 13, 2012, 11:10:21 PM »
So.... who didn't make Udina the council member in their game?

Half-way through game spoilers...

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Does Anderson side with Ceberus and betray you? Does Ashley kill him?
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regardless of your choice, Udina is the council member.

I chose Anderson in my game.
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« Reply #467 on: March 13, 2012, 11:25:55 PM »
It's obvious how the Multiplayer downgraded the main campaign. BUT, the gameplay is far more enjoyable IMO.

Yeah, all of the Cerberus missions are basically just multiplayer maps that you play by yourself. They're always like:

Hackett: "OMG Shepherd, Cerberus is doing something on Blah Blah planet!"

Shepherd: "What's Cerberus doing there?"

Hackett: "We don't know, but it's Cerberus so it can't be good!!!"

*enter hoard mode map where you fight 3 or 4 waves of enemies until the game lets you activate some computer or take some artifact Cerberus wanted*
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Re: MASS EFFECT 3 |OT|
« Reply #468 on: March 14, 2012, 12:54:07 AM »
hahaha
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« Reply #470 on: March 14, 2012, 01:25:15 AM »
fan rage raised nearly $26k for charity :bow2

announce and subsequently cancel Shenmue 3 to end world hunger

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« Reply #471 on: March 14, 2012, 01:33:15 AM »
fan rage raised nearly $26k for charity :bow2

And they just posted it yesterday.
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« Reply #472 on: March 14, 2012, 01:54:19 AM »
It's obvious how the Multiplayer downgraded the main campaign. BUT, the gameplay is far more enjoyable IMO.

Yeah, all of the Cerberus missions are basically just multiplayer maps that you play by yourself. They're always like:

Hackett: "OMG Shepherd, Cerberus is doing something on Blah Blah planet!"

Shepherd: "What's Cerberus doing there?"

Hackett: "We don't know, but it's Cerberus so it can't be good!!!"

*enter hoard mode map where you fight 3 or 4 waves of enemies until the game lets you activate some computer or take some artifact Cerberus wanted*

Meanwhile at the Citadel...

Shepard: Sup Miranda!

Miranda: DERP OMG SHEPARD MY SISTER IS BEING RAPED AGAIN WHAT TO DO

Shepard: WELP, want me to help?

Miranda: NO. THIS IS MY OWN DERP.

Shepard: OK.


Repeat this for all 3 or so Miranda scenes. Good thing I never fucked that horse faced genetic bitch.

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« Reply #473 on: March 14, 2012, 08:17:18 AM »
i am really interested in seeing how a lot of the situations play out with dead squad mates. like miranda, thane, etc etc.
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« Reply #474 on: March 14, 2012, 08:28:36 AM »
Spoiler that, fistful.

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« Reply #475 on: March 14, 2012, 08:40:11 AM »
i dont see what's spoilery about that.

squad mates returning from ME2 is well known and wanting to know how the situations they are in would play out with them dead is def not a spoiler.
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« Reply #476 on: March 14, 2012, 08:54:01 AM »
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DLC with extended ending pretty much confirmed.


You know that iOS app that sends you updates and texts from the games' characters as you proceed throughout the game.

You get sent this message from you LI after you beat it.

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb390/becspics03/photo.png

Can anyone here confirm this?

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Re: MASS EFFECT 3 |OT|
« Reply #477 on: March 14, 2012, 09:02:36 AM »
It's obvious how the Multiplayer downgraded the main campaign. BUT, the gameplay is far more enjoyable IMO.

Yeah, all of the Cerberus missions are basically just multiplayer maps that you play by yourself. They're always like:

Hackett: "OMG Shepherd, Cerberus is doing something on Blah Blah planet!"

Shepherd: "What's Cerberus doing there?"

Hackett: "We don't know, but it's Cerberus so it can't be good!!!"

*enter hoard mode map where you fight 3 or 4 waves of enemies until the game lets you activate some computer or take some artifact Cerberus wanted*

Meanwhile at the Citadel...

Shepard: Sup Miranda!

Miranda: DERP OMG SHEPARD MY SISTER IS BEING RAPED AGAIN WHAT TO DO

Shepard: WELP, want me to help?

Miranda: NO. THIS IS MY OWN DERP.

Shepard: OK.


Repeat this for all 3 or so Miranda scenes. Good thing I never fucked that horse faced genetic bitch.

Haha, leave it up to Bioware to make a character based on Yvonne Strahovski ugly.
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Re: MASS EFFECT 3 |OT|
« Reply #478 on: March 14, 2012, 09:57:34 AM »
i am really interested in seeing how a lot of the situations play out with dead squad mates. like miranda, thane, etc etc.

Where does Thane show up in ME3? I let him die in 2.
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Re: MASS EFFECT 3 |OT|
« Reply #479 on: March 14, 2012, 10:05:55 AM »
i am really interested in seeing how a lot of the situations play out with dead squad mates. like miranda, thane, etc etc.

Where does Thane show up in ME3? I let him die in 2.

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He emails you wanting to talk, then you can go visit him at the hospital on the Citadel.
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