Author Topic: Kingdom Hearts 3D of confusing story and amazing gameplay (Read 4777 times)

Not the DS ones, just CoM. However I did buy KH1,2, and Re:CoM for my older sister with the intent of eventually playing them.

To me this is a solid action game for one of my systems. Nothing more or less.

Himu · « **Reply #7 on:** March 01, 2012, 01:47:50 AM »

KH1 is a fantastic game and I'm excited to see how they've fixed/updated it, the obvious issue being the camera.

Himu · « **Reply #8 on:** March 01, 2012, 01:49:23 AM »

Christ, I can't believe KH is 10 years old. I got that game when I was 15 years old, one month before I turned 16.

I loved that game and it stands as the only KH that feels "magical" to me. Mainly because it was really fresh and interesting at the time.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #9 on:** March 01, 2012, 01:50:22 AM »

Wait are they remaking KH1

what do you mean by that himu

KH2 was a much more fun game, but KH1 wasn't as distinguished mentally-challenged

Himu · « **Reply #10 on:** March 01, 2012, 01:51:41 AM »

Isn't Kingdom Hearts 3d a KH1 remake? That's what I thought.

KH2 is mashy mashy compared to KH1. KH1, you actually had to use your entire arsenal and enemies actually had patterns. KH2? Mash mash mash mash.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #11 on:** March 01, 2012, 01:52:09 AM »

Nope, new game.

Himu · « **Reply #12 on:** March 01, 2012, 01:53:12 AM »

Goddamit. I was really hoping it was a remake. Where does BBS fit into this? Here's hoping they port BBS to 3ds because fuck Disney for not putting KH: BBS on psn.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #13 on:** March 01, 2012, 01:59:08 AM »

in the series' overall plot (lol), its:

BBS -> KH1 -> CoM -> The shitty DS one -> KHII -> KH Re:coded -> KH3D -> KH3 when it comes out

and KH2 had just much more awesome customization, and I enjoyed leveling Sora up so much more in II than in I. I got him to level 99

Himu · « **Reply #14 on:** March 01, 2012, 01:59:54 AM »

haha what the fuck

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #15 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:04:34 AM »

for more hilarity, take a gander at this wonderful and loltastically succinct google doc about the series' plot

Google Doc

Himu · « **Reply #16 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:06:59 AM »

I don't know whether to laugh, cry, or both at the same time.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #17 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:09:29 AM »

its the beuaty of the shitty fun game series that is Kingdom Hearts

Himu · « **Reply #18 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:15:50 AM »

Just finished reading it. Amazing.

cool breeze · « **Reply #19 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:21:11 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 01, 2012, 02:04:34 AM

for more hilarity, take a gander at this wonderful and loltastically succinct google doc about the series' plot

Google Doc

what

that makes me want to finish Birth By Sleep

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #20 on:** March 01, 2012, 05:40:26 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on March 01, 2012, 02:04:34 AM

for more hilarity, take a gander at this wonderful and loltastically succinct google doc about the series' plot

Google Doc

magus · « **Reply #21 on:** March 01, 2012, 05:50:13 AM »

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But this guy

Who is half of this guy

Who is claiming to be this guy

Possesses this guy

BEST PLOT EVAH

in all seriousness i do like the plot but it's full of fluff just to make it looks more complicated (the more spinoffish one are the most guilty of this) which is where a lot of "KINGDOM HEARTS PLOT IS STUPID LOLOLOLOLOL" comment stem from,i think the idea of the villain splitting into more villains who have nothing to do with each other is decent at it's core

Tasty · « **Reply #22 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:54:50 AM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 01, 2012, 01:53:12 AM

Goddamit. I was really hoping it was a remake. Where does BBS fit into this? Here's hoping they port BBS to 3ds because fuck Disney for not putting KH: BBS on psn.

BBS is a prequel. This has 100% (or not depending on your view) new worlds and it carries on the story from previous games. Takes its gameplay from BBS and improves on it.

Re:Coded was sort of remake-y.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #23 on:** March 01, 2012, 02:52:50 PM »

Basically there are 3 categories to this series:

Numbered titles, which are on console and developed by Nomura's main team in Tokyo. Includes KH1, KH2 and will someday include KH3 if Nomura's team ever finishes the project they're currently tied up with (Versus XIII)

"A" spinoffs, which are on handhelds and developed by the team in Osaka that once made Brave Fencer Musashi. Includes Birth by Sleep and now KH3D. These have a lot of new content and are nearly on par with the numbered titles, in fact some people prefer BBS to the numbered titles because the Osaka team rox.

"B" spinoffs, which are also on handhelds and outsourced. Includes CoM, 358/2 Days and Recoded. These have mostly recycled content and are generally low-budget cash-ins, though some people like some of them.

wrowa · « **Reply #24 on:** March 01, 2012, 05:25:15 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 01, 2012, 01:47:50 AM

KH1 is a fantastic game and I'm excited to see how they've fixed/updated it, the obvious issue being the camera.

Really? I thought it was pretty much garbage. Afterwards I lost all interest in the series -- nowadays I kinda want to give the series another shot, but everytime I want to buy KHII I think of some other PS2 games I'd be more interested in.

The last timed I ended up with Radiata Stories instead. A game I played for two hours, hated the two hours I played, and never touched it again.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #25 on:** March 01, 2012, 06:42:05 PM »

kh1 is a mediocre-at-best game

kh2 is a downgrade in every way possible. the story-heavy intro is THREE HOURS LONG and it just goes downhill from there.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #26 on:** March 01, 2012, 06:43:32 PM »

how dare you shit on my guy roxas

Himu · « **Reply #27 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:03:55 PM »

Quote from: wrowa on March 01, 2012, 05:25:15 PM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 01, 2012, 01:47:50 AM
KH1 is a fantastic game and I'm excited to see how they've fixed/updated it, the obvious issue being the camera.

Really? I thought it was pretty much garbage. Afterwards I lost all interest in the series -- nowadays I kinda want to give the series another shot, but everytime I want to buy KHII I think of some other PS2 games I'd be more interested in.

The last timed I ended up with Radiata Stories instead. A game I played for two hours, hated the two hours I played, and never touched it again.

Eh. I thought KH was really fun. It had a great difficulty curve, fun Metroid-esque gameplay, a ton of content and quests. For the type of game it was KH was surprisingly deep as far as console action rpgs go, and I died a ton against specific bosses. The main issue is the camera and the precise platforming.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #28 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:05:58 PM »

How do people still care about this steaming semen infused nomura shit franchise? Its not fun unless you never played games with good platforming controls or good combat or WHATEVER. There's so many legit ways to get a disney fix that its inexcusable to support this trash.

Himu · « **Reply #29 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:07:11 PM »

>likes pokemon

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #30 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:07:39 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 01, 2012, 07:03:55 PM

Quote from: wrowa on March 01, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 01, 2012, 01:47:50 AM
KH1 is a fantastic game and I'm excited to see how they've fixed/updated it, the obvious issue being the camera.

Really? I thought it was pretty much garbage. Afterwards I lost all interest in the series -- nowadays I kinda want to give the series another shot, but everytime I want to buy KHII I think of some other PS2 games I'd be more interested in.

The last timed I ended up with Radiata Stories instead. A game I played for two hours, hated the two hours I played, and never touched it again.

Eh. I thought KH was really fun. It had a great difficulty curve, fun Metroid-esque gameplay, a ton of content and quests. For the type of game it was KH was surprisingly deep as far as console action rpgs go, and I died a ton against specific bosses. The main issue is the camera and the precise platforming.

What the hell? Metroid esque gameplay? The player is tasked with walking between tiny arenas fighting enemies until they trigger the next distinguished mentally-challenged cutscene.

Himu · « **Reply #31 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:15:25 PM »

You obviously haven't played kingdom hearts, at least not at length. You unlock certain places and chests using trinity. In many cases trinity allows you to access locations you otherwise couldn't. You also gain new abilities: double jump, glide, magic that you use on the environment to access hard to reach chests. The game routinely teases chests in places you other wise can't reach until you gain new abilities to access them.

Sounds like Metroid to me.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #32 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:18:54 PM »

I've played enough hours of KH to know its disingenuous to make the comparison. The worlds are cramped and abbreviated and don't require lateral thinking in the slightest to progress. Its a babby franchise and people need to stop excusing its garbage design principles.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #33 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:19:34 PM »

This thread reminds me to buy some Utada music.

Vizzys · « **Reply #34 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:21:33 PM »

simple and clean~

Himu · « **Reply #35 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:24:06 PM »

The games are fun and you suck.

Vizzys · « **Reply #36 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:29:42 PM »

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #37 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:30:01 PM »

Jeff bridges is a video game character.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #38 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:30:14 PM »

KH has a story? Lots of FF peeps interacting with lots of Disney peeps cause it's cool to see that happening is KH's story.

Himu · « **Reply #39 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:31:49 PM »

In 10th grade when KH came out in Japan I would listen to simple and clean's Japanese version every day as soon as I got home in Winamp. I don't regret it.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #40 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:33:02 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 01, 2012, 07:03:55 PM

Quote from: wrowa on March 01, 2012, 05:25:15 PM
Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 01, 2012, 01:47:50 AM
KH1 is a fantastic game and I'm excited to see how they've fixed/updated it, the obvious issue being the camera.

Really? I thought it was pretty much garbage. Afterwards I lost all interest in the series -- nowadays I kinda want to give the series another shot, but everytime I want to buy KHII I think of some other PS2 games I'd be more interested in.

The last timed I ended up with Radiata Stories instead. A game I played for two hours, hated the two hours I played, and never touched it again.

Eh. I thought KH was really fun. It had a great difficulty curve, fun Metroid-esque gameplay, a ton of content and quests. For the type of game it was KH was surprisingly deep as far as console action rpgs go, and I died a ton against specific bosses. The main issue is the camera and the precise platforming.

$:-\$

Himu · « **Reply #41 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:33:35 PM »

Hikari > simple and clean

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #42 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:33:48 PM »

Quote from: Trent Dole on March 01, 2012, 07:30:14 PM

KH has a story? Lots of FF peeps interacting with lots of Disney peeps cause it's cool to see that happening is KH's story.

It gets beyond mere insanity. Its now the highest representation of metaphysical bullshit that planet earth has ever produced.

Himu · « **Reply #43 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:35:41 PM »

Admit it emcee. You're mad KH wasnt available on GameCube.

Himu · « **Reply #44 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:37:54 PM »

Wah wah I wish GameCube had an action rpg as good as this. The closet I've got is star fox adventurers qq

Positive Touch · « **Reply #45 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:43:06 PM »

apparently backtracking for chests equals metroid-esque gameplay now

for shame, himu

Himu · « **Reply #46 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:45:09 PM »

Eh. It's the tease that does it for me, just like how the tease works for me in Metroid. The completionist in me must have it.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #47 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:52:02 PM »

metroid is about exploring a nonlinear area that opens up as you collect items that give you new abilities

kingdom hearts is about bumbling around small shitty levels hoping for the next cutscene to trigger, until you eventually take a shitty spaceship to a new small shitty level. IT SUCKS

OH HEY AWESOME ANOTHER ONE OF THE 99 DALMATIANS AND SOME MORE GUMMI PARTS GOD I'M SO GLAD I BACKTRACKED

Himu · « **Reply #48 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:53:30 PM »

I didn't say it was the exact thing as Metroid but I get similar enjoyment from it. To me there's no difference between seeing a door I can't open because I don't have the right weapon in Metroid and a chest in Kingdom Hearts that I see at the very beginning of he game that requires me to use the glide upgrade to reach it. Both fulfill my inner completionist and both are used for game progression to allow you to get to new places.

magus · « **Reply #49 on:** March 01, 2012, 07:59:01 PM »

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There's so many legit ways to get a disney fix that its inexcusable to support this trash.

are you liking epic mickey emcee?

cool breeze · « **Reply #50 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:00:28 PM »

I tried Birth By Sleep again and kinda enjoyed it more now that I forgot all the systems. Looking through the menu, there's a bar to fill up for everything, like, everything. You can level up high jump, which is about 1.2 the height of regular jump. There's an "attack" called break where Zack does upside down push ups and you gotta time a button press. the actual combat is mash mash what the fuck is gold dust qte premature magma climax mash mash press triangle qte direct link qte mash mash.

I think why I liked KH1/2 more is because of how basic those were. Needlessly making the game more complex doesn't mean it adds depth or nuance to the gameplay.

Anyway, I jumped in and Minnie Mouse told me to race against Pete. And then I was in a pinball machine or something. And then I fought in the Hercules world against Zack. And then I stopped playing in deep space, which is Lilo and Snitch inspired (? I never really watched that). But yeah, it was more enjoyable when I ignored all the dumbness.

I'd probably try it again if I have a long flight or it's released on PSN to play it on the Vita. Or just skip it and go with the 3DS game whenever it's cheap.

Tasty · « **Reply #51 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:04:15 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 01, 2012, 07:33:35 PM

Hikari > simple and clean

My sister says the same but I don't get it. They're the same song. /troll

But really the PlanitB remix >>> ERRYTHING

Himu · « **Reply #52 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:09:38 PM »

Quote from: Positive Touch on March 01, 2012, 07:52:02 PM

metroid is about exploring a nonlinear area that opens up as you collect items that give you new abilities

kingdom hearts is about bumbling around small shitty levels hoping for the next cutscene to trigger, until you eventually take a shitty spaceship to a new small shitty level. IT SUCKS

OH HEY AWESOME ANOTHER ONE OF THE 99 DALMATIANS AND SOME MORE GUMMI PARTS GOD I'M SO GLAD I BACKTRACKED

you act like i said kingdom heats plays exactly like metroid. it doesn't.

however, metroid is FULL of moments where you're like,"how in the fuck do I get those missiles?" which are in plain sight that you simply just can't reach with your current moveset. Kingdom Hearts gave me a similar feeling.

if you don't understand this from what I posted, you either: a. are distinguished mentally-challenged, b. have never played metroid, or c. whoosh.

Himu · « **Reply #53 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:11:18 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on March 01, 2012, 08:04:15 PM

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 01, 2012, 07:33:35 PM
Hikari > simple and clean

My sister says the same but I don't get it. They're the same song. /troll

But really the PlanitB remix >>> ERRYTHING

Trent Dole · « **Reply #54 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:12:21 PM »

Quote from: EmCeeGrammar on March 01, 2012, 07:33:48 PM

Quote from: Trent Dole on March 01, 2012, 07:30:14 PM
KH has a story? Lots of FF peeps interacting with lots of Disney peeps cause it's cool to see that happening is KH's story.

It gets beyond mere insanity. Its now the highest representation of metaphysical bullshit that planet earth has ever produced.

So you're saying it's a jrpg series then, gotcha.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #55 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:23:49 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 01, 2012, 07:37:54 PM

Wah wah I wish GameCube had an action rpg as good as this. The closet I've got is star fox adventurers qq

I had a ps2 you dweeb. I only like srpgs anyway.

Himu · « **Reply #56 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:24:48 PM »

sureeeeeeeee you did.

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #57 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:27:17 PM »

I had to have katamari.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #58 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:30:06 PM »

Quote from: Stringer Bell on March 01, 2012, 08:09:38 PM

b. have never played metroid

god dammit i've bought every metroid when they're new since the first one

sass me like that again and i'll push you down the stairs

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #59 on:** March 01, 2012, 08:36:11 PM »

Even hunters?

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Author Topic: Kingdom Hearts 3D of confusing story and amazing gameplay (Read 4777 times)