Author Topic: Valve making a console...Steam press accounts mysteriously reapearing (Read 36499 times)

Huff · « **Reply #180 on:** December 09, 2012, 02:51:41 PM »

forgot how much this thread was ruined with ninfag shit

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #181 on:** December 09, 2012, 02:53:07 PM »

I'll say the same thing I said earlier. It comes down to price if its gonna be a mass market thing or not.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #182 on:** December 09, 2012, 02:59:45 PM »

Quote from: maxy on December 09, 2012, 02:50:31 PM

Quote from: Premium Lager on December 09, 2012, 02:38:19 PM
Think it will be just a prefab pc, not what gaf expects.

Yeah,I think so too.

But it will be just one configuration and that could be a pretty big thing.PC has a pretty big api overhead-- Carmack said that in order to match consoles you need 4x-5x more powerful PC.

With just one configuration you could significantly lower that,the question is will Valve bother?

Haha I said the same thing about power in the GAF thread only to have blind Pc noobs tell me Im wrong which I know In not.

400/500 dollar Pc from 2005 wont run Far Cry 3 now, but a 360 will. The steambox would need a 2/3 year upgrade, still a step up if it could sell even million units, would give devs something to go by.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #183 on:** December 09, 2012, 03:34:09 PM »

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"Well certainly our hardware will be a very controlled environment," he said, and then continued on to complain about the Windows 8 app store some more.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #184 on:** December 09, 2012, 05:08:44 PM »

one console future

based gaben

Himu · « **Reply #185 on:** December 09, 2012, 05:11:20 PM »

I'm not sure if I should wait for steam box and pick up a new laptop or just build my own heavy duty pc

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #186 on:** December 09, 2012, 05:19:48 PM »

I was thinking about building a new pc but now I'm gonna wait for details of steam box. Gonna get either a laptop or a surface next semester for sure though, it will be for school not gaming.

Himu · « **Reply #187 on:** December 09, 2012, 05:25:04 PM »

My thing is, I need power FOR work so I dunno what route to take. I guess I could a PC and get a steam box down the line but that is redundant.

Fifstar · « **Reply #188 on:** December 09, 2012, 05:44:55 PM »

If you're somewhat pc literate, why would you buy a steam box? I would wait at least until it is out for half a year to see if games are actually optimized for it and if it's a good system.
Otherwise, building a gaming system right now is easy, just build a decently powerful pc and throw in a 150$ graphic card and you can play 80% of the games at high settings@60fps and the rest still at much better quality and higher fps than the consoles.

Heavy duty work pc and a tablet with a keyboard seem like the best bang for the buck too me, unless you need a laptop for work on the road.

Of course, if Valve prices it's box very competitivly it could be interesting, but closed system and pc are just two things that don't go together for me.

naff · « **Reply #189 on:** December 09, 2012, 06:04:35 PM »

Quote from: Fifstar on December 09, 2012, 05:44:55 PM

If you're somewhat pc literate, why would you buy a steam box? I would wait at least until it is out for half a year to see if games are actually optimized for it and if it's a good system.
Otherwise, building a gaming system right now is easy, just build a decently powerful pc and throw in a 150$ graphic card and you can play 80% of the games at high settings@60fps and the rest still at much better quality and higher fps than the consoles.

Heavy duty work pc and a tablet with a keyboard seem like the best bang for the buck too me, unless you need a laptop for work on the road.

Of course, if Valve prices it's box very competitivly it could be interesting, but closed system and pc are just two things that don't go together for me.

As others have said earlier, with a locked down system theres the potential for better performance. More bang for your buck, more console like, less jiggery pokery involved just plug and pray

mjemirzian · « **Reply #190 on:** December 09, 2012, 09:11:40 PM »

I've got a lot of questions about how this is going to work, but I'm a Steam addict so I'll probably get one anyway.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #191 on:** December 09, 2012, 09:43:57 PM »

how much cheaper could a Steam box be than a PC you build yourself though...unless they go nuts and sell them at a loss and make up for it in game sales. Which they could probably safely do.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #192 on:** December 09, 2012, 09:47:10 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on December 09, 2012, 09:43:57 PM

how much cheaper could a Steam box be than a PC you build yourself though...unless they go nuts and sell them at a loss and make up for it in game sales. Which they could probably safely do.

They could probably put something together for about $400, I'd think.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #193 on:** December 09, 2012, 09:48:04 PM »

they could call it the Valve Gusher

cool breeze · « **Reply #194 on:** December 09, 2012, 10:20:22 PM »

I don't think it would be comparable to what you build, assuming you'd want a console-like PC.

Most small mini-ITX cases are still quite large compared to consoles. The Alienware one is the comparable to the original PS3 but is pretty expensive. I think it has an external power supply, which is why it's able to get smaller and more console-like. And of course, gaming laptops are relatively small.

And I'm sort of amazed at the reaction to that free street fighter x mega man game. Some people strangely don't view computers as gaming platforms. So, maybe there is an audience for a PC-console-thing.

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #195 on:** December 09, 2012, 10:58:15 PM »

Quote from: fryinghigh on December 09, 2012, 10:20:22 PM

I don't think it would be comparable to what you build, assuming you'd want a console-like PC.

Most small mini-ITX cases are still quite large compared to consoles. The Alienware one is the comparable to the original PS3 but is pretty expensive. I think it has an external power supply, which is why it's able to get smaller and more console-like. And of course, gaming laptops are relatively small.

And I'm sort of amazed at the reaction to that free street fighter x mega man game. Some people strangely don't view computers as gaming platforms. So, maybe there is an audience for a PC-console-thing.

You are surprised about the way GAF unpeople behave?

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maxy · « **Reply #196 on:** January 05, 2013, 01:42:18 PM »

http://www.golem.de/news/pc-spielekonsole-steam-box-ohne-windows-1212-96609.html

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German site Golem.de attended a conference on the 29th of December where Ben Krasnow, Valve electronics engineer, talked ( among other stuff) about the company's plans for a Linux-based console. Here are the main takeaways from the article:

- Valve's console reveal this year
- It will use Linux, not Windows
- Valve's hardware labs will reveal other stuff in 2013 (possibly controllers? VR?)
- Krasnow has been working on Valve hardware with Jeri Ellsworth since 2011
- Possible reveal at GDC, Phoronix thinks that E3 is more likely

So PC(Steam) feggits,will you buy?

War is coming

Modified it a little bit cuz article doesn't say anything about 2013 release,just reveal.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #197 on:** January 05, 2013, 02:08:32 PM »

Quote from: maxy on January 05, 2013, 01:42:18 PM

http://www.golem.de/news/pc-spielekonsole-steam-box-ohne-windows-1212-96609.html

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German site Golem.de attended a conference on the 29th of December where Ben Krasnow, Valve electronics engineer, talked ( among other stuff) about the company's plans for a Linux-based console. Here are the main takeaways from the article:

- Valve's console reveal this year
- It will use Linux, not Windows
- Valve's hardware labs will reveal other stuff in 2013 (possibly controllers? VR?)
- Krasnow has been working on Valve hardware with Jeri Ellsworth since 2011
- Possible reveal at GDC, Phoronix thinks that E3 is more likely

So PC(Steam) feggits,will you buy?

War is coming

Modified it a little bit cuz article doesn't say anything about 2013 release,just reveal.

of course i won't buy. The target market is people who don't own a gaming pc yet.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #198 on:** January 05, 2013, 02:15:00 PM »

If HL3 is a launch title, I'll buy it.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #199 on:** January 05, 2013, 02:16:44 PM »

that'd be a good way to generate interest and get attention...to say the least.

cool breeze · « **Reply #200 on:** January 05, 2013, 02:18:20 PM »

I don't know how the linux will play out. PC support is something like 1900 games. Mac support? ~350. Linux? ~40.

Still very interested in the controller Valve is working on. If it's the modular pad patent with trackballs, trackpads, etc. it could turn out pretty great.

archie4208 · « **Reply #201 on:** January 05, 2013, 02:23:38 PM »

What if there are exclusive TF2 hats for buying a Steambox?

maxy · « **Reply #202 on:** January 05, 2013, 02:26:35 PM »

Archie buying 10 Steamboxes then

SantaC · « **Reply #203 on:** January 05, 2013, 02:35:40 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 05, 2013, 02:15:00 PM

If HL3 is a launch title, I'll buy it.

whats so good about HL again. The first game was good due to the lack of quality fps on the market at the time. HL2 was ok, a graphical showing but the game itself wasnt anything special. 10 minute boat ride, 10 minute buggy ride, etc.

maxy · « **Reply #204 on:** January 05, 2013, 02:50:17 PM »

My nostalgia tells me that I had lots of fun playing HL1,2.HL3 is a long awaited sequel and I would certainly check it up.

I doubt Valve would lock it to Steambox,that would anger their userbase...PC/Steambox only--maybe

Console peasants would get port sometime later,money is money.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #205 on:** January 05, 2013, 04:13:37 PM »

Linux?

This thing will be doa.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #206 on:** January 05, 2013, 04:36:48 PM »

i've just given up that they're working on cool games. They've got steam, they've got DOTA2, they've got hats...there's literally no incentive for the company to make HL3.

Huff · « **Reply #207 on:** January 05, 2013, 04:37:51 PM »

any interest I had pretty much dissolved with the linux aspect

originalz · « **Reply #208 on:** January 05, 2013, 04:53:10 PM »

Quote from: SantaC on January 05, 2013, 02:35:40 PM

Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 05, 2013, 02:15:00 PM
If HL3 is a launch title, I'll buy it.

whats so good about HL again. The first game was good due to the lack of quality fps on the market at the time. HL2 was ok, a graphical showing but the game itself wasnt anything special. 10 minute boat ride, 10 minute buggy ride, etc.

Maybe they're showing their age now, but at the time of release the HL games were way beyond anything else on the market.

archie4208 · « **Reply #209 on:** January 05, 2013, 05:00:50 PM »

I remember Doom 3 looking much better than HL2 at release. Granted, I think HL2 has aged better visually because it has superior aesthetics.

Himu · « **Reply #210 on:** January 05, 2013, 05:08:00 PM »

> LINUX

LOL

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #211 on:** January 05, 2013, 06:14:43 PM »

Sexy kernel compiling ooh yeahhh

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #212 on:** January 05, 2013, 06:59:39 PM »

Linux= Valve Games and Tux Racer.

chronovore · « **Reply #213 on:** January 05, 2013, 07:05:51 PM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 05, 2013, 06:14:43 PM

Sexy kernel compiling ooh yeahhh

But that's not inherent to the OS, is it? Surely there's a way to keep the kernel intact, and work around the one with which they ship.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #214 on:** January 05, 2013, 08:04:01 PM »

You guys are dumb. Once the general public gets ahold of Linux, they'll realize they've been stuck in dualistic slavery between Microsoft and Apple their whole lives. They'll marvel at open source software and the tight-knit community. Games were the last step. Then the revolution will begin.

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #215 on:** January 05, 2013, 08:12:48 PM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 05, 2013, 08:04:01 PM

You guys are dumb. Once the general public gets ahold of Linux, they'll realize they've been stuck in dualistic slavery between Microsoft and Apple their whole lives. They'll marvel at open source software and the tight-knit community. Games were the last step. Then the revolution will begin.

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Nice most likely Neogaf copypasta bro

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naff · « **Reply #216 on:** January 06, 2013, 02:47:52 AM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 05, 2013, 08:04:01 PM

You guys are dumb. Once the general public gets ahold of Linux, they'll realize they've been stuck in dualistic slavery between Microsoft and Apple their whole lives. They'll marvel at open source software and the tight-knit community. Games were the last step. Then the revolution will begin.

yeah the mainstream will never give a shit about Open Source. And I don't think they should but I don't see what's so funny about using Linux as a base for this console. Google did it and valve are killing it with steam but you guys know better than valve. Bomba confirmed

archnemesis · « **Reply #217 on:** January 06, 2013, 02:54:21 AM »

Using Linux is probably the only way to get the price low enough. It's still not very useful without DirectX support.

chronovore · « **Reply #218 on:** January 06, 2013, 04:06:59 AM »

Quote from: Don Flamenco on January 05, 2013, 08:04:01 PM

You guys are dumb. Once the general public gets ahold of Libertarianism, they'll realize they've been stuck in dualistic slavery between Republicans and Democrats their whole lives. They'll marvel at the power of the individual, and the tight-knit community. Guns were the last step. Then the revolution will begin.

Fixed.

archie4208 · « **Reply #219 on:** January 06, 2013, 07:16:18 AM »

The faster it bombs the faster I can get those exclusive hats.

Momo · « **Reply #220 on:** January 06, 2013, 08:49:45 AM »

so long as it's cross compatible with regular ol' window steam. Dont want boritos to be left out in the cold on empty serbian servers filled with rats and dust.

MCD · « **Reply #221 on:** January 15, 2013, 07:28:15 PM »

http://xi3.com/news.php?id=781

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #222 on:** January 15, 2013, 08:00:07 PM »

integrated graphics so no kind of a gaming device

Tasty · « **Reply #223 on:** January 15, 2013, 08:02:08 PM »

Linux

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #224 on:** January 15, 2013, 08:10:29 PM »

you must be very clever Andrex, since you use Linux

i am very impressed

Tasty · « **Reply #225 on:** January 15, 2013, 08:17:12 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on January 15, 2013, 08:10:29 PM

you must be very clever Andrex, since you use Linux

i am very impressed

That's what they tell me.

Linux on my Chromebook~
Linux on my Android~
Linux on my laptop~

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Linux in my pants.

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Sho Nuff · « **Reply #226 on:** January 16, 2013, 03:25:16 AM »

chronovore · « **Reply #227 on:** January 16, 2013, 03:56:31 AM »

Ah, Penguin Frottage Racing. I remember that chestnut.

Momo · « **Reply #228 on:** January 16, 2013, 03:57:31 AM »

That is NOT pen pen tri-icelon

Tasty · « **Reply #229 on:** January 16, 2013, 10:34:14 AM »

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #230 on:** January 16, 2013, 01:06:25 PM »

Tasty · « **Reply #231 on:** January 16, 2013, 01:16:20 PM »

What a surprise, an pseudo MS employee is slobbering on Gates pen0r.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #232 on:** January 16, 2013, 01:20:06 PM »

I'll never know why someone would shill for free, especially because of those NDAs

Brehvolution · « **Reply #233 on:** January 16, 2013, 01:23:19 PM »

It's no Crayon Physics Deluxe, but it's an impressive list.

hampster · « **Reply #234 on:** January 16, 2013, 01:26:15 PM »

LOL consoles. Razer just made the steam handheld

Its dumb and expensive but I want one

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #235 on:** January 16, 2013, 01:36:32 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on January 16, 2013, 01:16:20 PM

What a surprise, an pseudo MS employee is slobbering on Gates pen0r.

chronovore · « **Reply #236 on:** January 21, 2013, 12:54:18 AM »

Quote from: Sho Nuff on January 16, 2013, 01:36:32 PM

Quote from: Andrex on January 16, 2013, 01:16:20 PM
What a surprise, an pseudo MS employee is slobbering on Gates pen0r.

Sho Nuff reads this response, chuckles, and looks forward to a night on the town. Sho Nuff dons his moneyhat, moneycape, and ventures into the evening drizzle common to Washington state, and fires up his Windows8 Phone to have the on-loan, pre-release Microsoft SexBots drive the moneycar to the side wing of Sho Nuff Mansion.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #237 on:** January 21, 2013, 01:31:26 AM »

thebore has been on fire today

maxy · « **Reply #238 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:02:24 PM »

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/186592/Several_out_of_work_as_Valve_makes_large_decisions_about_its_future.ph#.URvVdh2gr0c

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Several employees were let go from Steam and Half-Life maker Valve on Tuesday, Gamasutra can confirm.

We've been unable to determine an exact headcount, but phrases we've heard from affected employees describing the incident include "great cleansing" and "large decisions." We've seen the number "25" tossed around, but are unable to confirm this.

We can, however, confirm that the cuts have affected more than one department, namely hardware and Android development.

Affected employees were asked not to speak about specifics, but the impression we get is that these cuts were driven more by company challenges than by individual performance issues.

Valve has not responded to our requests for clarification. This story will be updated as we learn more about what happened.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #239 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:23:34 PM »

Huh thats suprising.

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