The 2012 MLB Thread of A-Rod's Continued Decline

[Great Rumbler]

Sad to see Michael Young go, but it was probably the right decision to make.

[Human Snorenado]

So the Rays are a fucking machine. That is all.

Yeah, that trade is pretty nutso.  They're gonna be awesome for years with 10k people watching them.

[Joe Molotov]

Michael Young, Mike Napoli, and (probably) Mike Adams are all gone. Who will the Rangers cut loose next? Michael Jordan? Michael Schumacher? Mike Huckabee?

[CajoleJuice]

Michael Young, Mike Napoli, and (probably) Mike Adams are all gone. Who will the Rangers cut loose next? Michael Jordan? Michael Schumacher? Mike Huckabee?

I'm just hoping they trade Profar for Dickey.

[Mr. Gundam]

Dammit. With Grienke going to LA, the Rangers will more than likely resign Hamilton.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

so glad of my team literally trading away all their good players...not

[CajoleJuice]

so glad of my team literally trading away all their good players...not

Hey, you've got Longoria until 2023!

[CajoleJuice]

If Alderson gets d'Arnaud for Dickey, I'd be pretty happy. And I think the Jays should do it.

[Flannel Boy]

If Alderson gets d'Arnaud for Dickey, I'd be pretty happy. And I think the Jays should do it.

You'll get JP Arencibia and Omar's twitter fuckbuddy and like it.

[CajoleJuice]

If Alderson gets d'Arnaud for Dickey, I'd be pretty happy. And I think the Jays should do it.

You'll get JP Arencibia and Omar's twitter fuckbuddy and like it.

I very much doubt Alderson likes dudes with .275 OBPs

[Flannel Boy]

Does he like boobies?

[Phoenix Dark]

Thoughts on the Tigers/Sanchez signing?

[Flannel Boy]

Thoughts on the Tigers/Sanchez signing?

Baseball revenue is so distinguished mentally-challenged that I don't even know what to think.

Fangraphs' put his value at $17 million each of the last three seasons, so I guess $16 million per is reasonable.

[CajoleJuice]

I think 5 years seems like a bit much, but man, it's not terrible considering the market. Fucking Greinke got 6/147. Sanchez got about half that.

Stats over last 3 years:
Sanchez: 587 IP, 526 K, 182 BB, 50 HR, 109 ERA+, 12.0 fWAR, 9.0 rWAR
Greinke: 604 IP, 582 K, 154 BB, 55 HR, 106 ERA+, 14.1 fWAR, 7.9 rWAR

And they are basically the same age.

[Flannel Boy]

Greinke . . .  14.1 fWAR, 7.9 rWAR

That's an amazing discrepancy.

[Human Snorenado]

If Alderson gets d'Arnaud for Dickey, I'd be pretty happy. And I think the Jays should do it.

Looks like it's happening

[CajoleJuice]

If Alderson gets d'Arnaud for Dickey, I'd be pretty happy. And I think the Jays should do it.

Looks like it's happening

Looks like they might be doing better than that.

[Flannel Boy]

Jack Morris    67.7%

OK, that's actually the worst part of the balloting.

[CajoleJuice]

Jack Morris    67.7%

OK, that's actually the worst part of the balloting.

Brian Kenny on MLBN made a great comparison between him and Mickey Lolich. Mike Piazza not making it in was the worst part of the ballot.

[Human Snorenado]

I might actually try to go to the 2014 induction ceremony- Maddux, Glavine and Cox will all be getting inducted.  Maybe Schuerholz too.

[CajoleJuice]

I might actually try to go to the 2014 induction ceremony- Maddux, Glavine and Cox will all be getting inducted.  Maybe Schuerholz too.

Mussina > Glavine. But you're right. I hope Jack Morris gets in with them so it's kinda ruined.

[Flannel Boy]

The Toronto media are horrible. Damien Cox, in response to Piazza not getting in,  basically said "hey even Jack Morris isn't in yet." Boy was I shocked when he said all those rumors about Piazza might have kept him out of the Hall--I thought society was less homophobic! 

[Human Snorenado]

I might actually try to go to the 2014 induction ceremony- Maddux, Glavine and Cox will all be getting inducted.  Maybe Schuerholz too.

Mussina > Glavine. But you're right. I hope Jack Morris gets in with them so it's kinda ruined.

Ehhh... marginally.  They're very similar across the board- Mussina had better control, pitched in a tougher league and had more strikeouts.  He also compiled his numbers in 4 fewer years than Glavine.  Glavine will get the nod for sure because of ZOMG 300 WINS though. 

If anything, Morris will lose support with all of the pitchers going on the ballot for the first time next year.

[CajoleJuice]

I might actually try to go to the 2014 induction ceremony- Maddux, Glavine and Cox will all be getting inducted.  Maybe Schuerholz too.

Mussina > Glavine. But you're right. I hope Jack Morris gets in with them so it's kinda ruined.

Ehhh... marginally.  They're very similar across the board- Mussina had better control, pitched in a tougher league and had more strikeouts.  He also compiled his numbers in 4 fewer years than Glavine.  Glavine will get the nod for sure because of ZOMG 300 WINS though. 

If anything, Morris will lose support with all of the pitchers going on the ballot for the first time next year.

What else is there? I guess Glavine had a slightly better GB% and lower HR rate, but he pitched in much more pitcher-friendly parks in his career. But obviously my feelings about Glavine are...clouded. He did also win 2 Cy Youngs to Mussina's 0, so that helps with the voters, too. Just dumb that he's a no doubt first-ballot while Mussina won't come close next year, that's all. He could have easily hung on for 300 wins. It wouldn't have even been "hanging on" since his last year was one of his best.

And you're right about Morris, I'm just trolling.

[Steve Contra]

I might actually try to go to the 2014 induction ceremony- Maddux, Glavine and Cox will all be getting inducted.  Maybe Schuerholz too.

That would be pretty awesome.  Maddux 

[CajoleJuice]

Maddux to come out of the closet and admit to using steroids in his HoF induction speech.

[Flannel Boy]

Well, there is clear video evidence that he and Glavine were roided up.

[CajoleJuice]

still the best commercial

[Human Snorenado]

Obviously I'm biased, but what do you guys think about Smoltz's chances to make the HoF?  For me he's HoF worthy, but again, BIAS and whatnot.

[CajoleJuice]

Obviously I'm biased, but what do you guys think about Smoltz's chances to make the HoF?  For me he's HoF worthy, but again, BIAS and whatnot.

I think he should be in, for sure.

He's short of Glavine/Mussina/Schilling when you go straight up WAR, but that's mostly due to his years as a reliever. And he had 209 postseason IP at a 2.67 ERA. That's like an extra 5 WAR season.

This is pretty cool site: http://www.hallofstats.com/

He has Smoltz easily in at a 136 rating (100 is HoF) in the pitcher rankings: http://www.hallofstats.com/position/p

[Human Snorenado]

He did strike out a lot of Mets 

[Human Snorenado]

Sorry Cajole, turns out he's straight after all

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/david-wright-engaged-model-molly-beers-195121968--mlb.html

[CajoleJuice]

Sorry Cajole, turns out he's straight after all

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-big-league-stew/david-wright-engaged-model-molly-beers-195121968--mlb.html

i am heartbroken :'(

[Human Snorenado]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/altanta-braves-acquire-outfielder-justin-upton-for-a-package-of-players-160129327.html

When I heard we were adding another Upton, I was hoping for Kate.

[CajoleJuice]

uggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh fuuuckkkkkk

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serves as both my reaction to the trade and if Kate Upton touched my penis

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[Flannel Boy]

The Braves have a package for that Upton, too.