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« Reply #840 on: November 22, 2020, 11:04:01 AM »
The bottom pic is in game and real, the top pic looks like CG scene made for a trailer. If you look to the right, the exterior area looks different and a car isn't there in the bottom pic.

The lighting in the bottom pic looks better too. Light from the outside should be coming in.
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« Reply #841 on: November 22, 2020, 11:39:57 AM »
Well yeah but compression aside thats a big diff

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« Reply #842 on: November 22, 2020, 12:11:17 PM »
gonna need someone to count the polygons in real time
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« Reply #843 on: November 22, 2020, 02:25:43 PM »
The big difference is going to be the draw distance, high-res textures, better character models and all those pretty Ray traced reflections :preach
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« Reply #844 on: November 22, 2020, 05:57:02 PM »
If AMD/Nvidia/developers implemented RT lighting without making any presentation about it, I honestly don't think the general public would have noticed it at all.

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« Reply #845 on: November 22, 2020, 06:07:57 PM »
Wow.. that last trailer...   I think I'm officially gonna wait till the next gen version is released (PS5) to do this game justice.  I'm nowhere near upgrading a supra PC anyway.

Get it on Stadia
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« Reply #846 on: November 22, 2020, 06:15:47 PM »
Get it on Stadia
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(..)the service seems solid enough(..)


I have yet to use my new Stadia...

So can't speak about the quality of the service itself...

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« Reply #847 on: November 22, 2020, 06:28:42 PM »
I mean Cybyerpunk isn't out yet anyways so we're all speaking in hypotheticals, aren't we? :lol
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« Reply #848 on: November 22, 2020, 08:55:47 PM »
If AMD/Nvidia/developers implemented RT lighting without making any presentation about it, I honestly don't think the general public would have noticed it at all.

Developers and engines have gotten so damn good at faking such lighting effects and they're designing around the limitations. I think the only 'fair' comparisons are demonstrations of scenarios where only RT could achieve something vs good enough trickery. Seems outside of wholly raytraced stuff like the marbles demo or the Quake game it's been used mostly for less attention-grabbing things (likely since games ordinarily are focused on making the non-raytraced version look great since that's the version most will be experiencing). Guess we'll see comparisons in 2077 closer to launch.

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« Reply #849 on: November 22, 2020, 09:02:54 PM »
If AMD/Nvidia/developers implemented RT lighting without making any presentation about it, I honestly don't think the general public would have noticed it at all.

sure. but the general public wouldnt notice 30 vs 60 fps. people dumb
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« Reply #851 on: November 23, 2020, 05:42:42 PM »
If AMD/Nvidia/developers implemented RT lighting without making any presentation about it, I honestly don't think the general public would have noticed it at all.

sure. but the general public wouldnt notice 30 vs 60 fps. people dumb

eh, if you don't try it you can't get a feel for it. can't expect regular joes to be as up on the play as privileged forum dwellers spending their extra income on monitors with high refresh rates and graphics cards worth thousands of dollars. peoples brains have been compensating for 24 frames for so long.

30fps target is here to stay. best we can hope for is "performance modes" staying popular enough to become standardised.
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« Reply #853 on: November 24, 2020, 10:47:20 AM »
lol imagine if they delayed it again even though there are copies in the wild 😂😂😂

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« Reply #854 on: November 24, 2020, 12:27:12 PM »
Console footage brehs..well PS4 Pro and PS5..no base console footage shown  :brain



Where are all the people at though  :lol city better not be this fucking empty on a rtx 3070 brehs

In fact I found none of this footage really interesting or impressive in any way.


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5:51 PM...rushtime hour? Where all the cars and people at lmao Night City more like #dead city
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« Reply #855 on: November 24, 2020, 12:47:15 PM »
Well they aren't releasing the actual next-gen versions anytime soon.. so PS5 footage is basically a "port" of the PS4 version isn't it?

Not sure they have ray tracing for AMD cards at launch either on PC.

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« Reply #856 on: November 24, 2020, 12:48:32 PM »
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« Reply #857 on: November 24, 2020, 12:50:50 PM »
PS4 version is the truest to the tabletop game because you have to use your imagination more.  :hmph

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« Reply #858 on: November 24, 2020, 01:07:01 PM »
Retail copies are now floating about, so I see that video as a way to show the game running and working on consoles. There's a lot at stake for CDPR with this game, they don't necessarily want 360p footage of someone doing weird shit to be first thing people see.

New things from that video:

If you decide to rampage about on the streets, a gunship and super cops are going to destroy you almost instantly if you don't get away.

The first couple hours look like a lot of setup and tutorial/on rails stuff to introduce a lot of stuff.


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« Reply #859 on: November 24, 2020, 01:25:57 PM »
Yeah I hope the beginning of the game isn't an on-rails slog.

I hate when open world games start like that.

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« Reply #860 on: November 24, 2020, 01:31:22 PM »
Yeah I hope the beginning of the game isn't an on-rails slog.

I hate when open world games start like that.

As far as Ive heard tis about a 6 hour prologue, but Im sure they will give you some amount of freedom to discover stuff on your own.

Im trying to stay blacked out as much as possible but sometimes its hard

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« Reply #861 on: November 24, 2020, 01:35:01 PM »
Yeah I hope the beginning of the game isn't an on-rails slog.

I hate when open world games start like that.

As far as Ive heard tis about a 6 hour prologue, but Im sure they will give you some amount of freedom to discover stuff on your own.

Im trying to stay blacked out as much as possible but sometimes its hard

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« Reply #862 on: November 24, 2020, 01:36:01 PM »
They wrote 3 separate intros for the game so I'm assuming they don't just dump you out and let you do whatever. It'll probably be pretty on rails.

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« Reply #863 on: November 24, 2020, 01:39:32 PM »
Yeah those intros better be fun is all I'm saying lol

I hate big replayable games that lock you into a path for hours on end that gets really boring the second time you play through.

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« Reply #864 on: November 24, 2020, 01:42:16 PM »
Yeah those intros better be fun is all I'm saying lol

I hate big replayable games that lock you into a path for hours on end that gets really boring the second time you play through.

thats why there are 3 intros

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« Reply #865 on: November 24, 2020, 02:40:42 PM »
Yeah those intros better be fun is all I'm saying lol

I hate big replayable games that lock you into a path for hours on end that gets really boring the second time you play through.
White Orchard in W3 was basically that.

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« Reply #866 on: November 24, 2020, 03:07:57 PM »
lol @ looking at the dirtperson versions as representative of what the game is supposed to be

If you don't have at least a 2070 in your pc and a nice processor from the past 2-3 years, you're not playing the real game

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« Reply #867 on: November 24, 2020, 03:29:43 PM »
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« Reply #868 on: November 24, 2020, 03:35:17 PM »
I think the console versions look pretty good considering the next gen are just running the last gen versions right now.

I want to see what they can squeeze out with the next gen patches though.

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« Reply #869 on: November 25, 2020, 11:47:04 AM »
So do you guys think it will still look this good?



Gahh so hype

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« Reply #870 on: November 25, 2020, 02:46:47 PM »
On high end pcs parts of it will probably look comparable but overall nah, it won't look that good, and never was going to, and no there were never going to be so many fucking people stupidly, needlessly, pointlessly milling around for "ambiance" or whatever. Gamers are fucking r-tarded.
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« Reply #871 on: November 25, 2020, 03:22:01 PM »
B-but the greatly enhanced crowd and community systems.

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« Reply #872 on: November 25, 2020, 03:27:03 PM »
On high end pcs parts of it will probably look comparable but overall nah, it won't look that good, and never was going to, and no there were never going to be so many fucking people stupidly, needlessly, pointlessly milling around for "ambiance" or whatever. Gamers are fucking r-tarded.

Lmao why not? The only thing holding it back is the CPU's.

Hitman 2 already has crowds that have a lot of variety and density. So not sure what your specific issue is here man.



Yes most of those NPC's are standing still but still. Things like that add to a living breathing world. I really dont see how gamers are rtarded for wanting shit like that

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« Reply #873 on: November 25, 2020, 04:03:58 PM »
It's not that big of a deal in the bigger picture, but NPC density is a completely valid thing to want in a game. Arguing it doesn't matter at all would be akin to a movie director making a movie set in Tokyo, but you see Kmart's and dollar stores, piecing together quickly it was shot in fucking Nebraska  :lol

That Hitman example is a great one, so is the Paris fashion show. Game design is largely about smoke and mirrors, neat or cool or crafty shit that makes you wonder how or why the accomplished something.

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« Reply #874 on: November 25, 2020, 05:50:00 PM »
I remember mowing down crowds in that hit man game on 360 in New Orleans. That was pretty cool for it’s day.

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« Reply #875 on: November 25, 2020, 09:40:50 PM »
streets do look p empty, but like, whenever i've been to massive cities like tokyo it's amazing how barren the streets can be in really built up areas when you get away from the main subway line or shopping districts. i would be surprised if the whole game's like that and it doesn't feel natural. it also makes sense in a crime riddled world where the internet offers reprieve and neural interfaces are standard people aren't hanging out in the urban sprawl like it's the 90s and going to the mall is a thing.
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« Reply #876 on: November 25, 2020, 10:18:40 PM »
Wasn't there an NPC density slider for TW3 on PC, can we expect the same here?

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« Reply #877 on: November 25, 2020, 10:20:21 PM »
sure we can, and mods too that probably overrides their limits, so my 3090 can run it at 20fps  :lawd
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« Reply #878 on: November 26, 2020, 12:57:18 AM »
NPC density has come a way in some other games so it just depends if CDPR has optimized their engine to handle it. I think they've actually been more sincere with the marketing of the visuals than previously but since it's a cross-platform and cross-gen title with last gen consoles as the baseline there were always going to be some compromises. Just gimme those PC options.

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« Reply #879 on: November 26, 2020, 11:37:31 AM »
On high end pcs parts of it will probably look comparable but overall nah, it won't look that good, and never was going to, and no there were never going to be so many fucking people stupidly, needlessly, pointlessly milling around for "ambiance" or whatever. Gamers are fucking r-tarded.
Ambiance in a cdpr open world? Next they'll ask for sex scenes in a porno!
Bolded is right tho, my fellow gamer.  ;)

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« Reply #880 on: November 26, 2020, 02:48:05 PM »
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« Reply #881 on: November 26, 2020, 04:20:59 PM »
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« Reply #883 on: November 27, 2020, 02:28:20 PM »
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« Reply #884 on: November 28, 2020, 11:24:17 AM »
On high end pcs parts of it will probably look comparable but overall nah, it won't look that good, and never was going to, and no there were never going to be so many fucking people stupidly, needlessly, pointlessly milling around for "ambiance" or whatever. Gamers are fucking r-tarded.

Im imagining the french revolution with 10 npcs instead of this



Wow such ambiance

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« Reply #885 on: November 28, 2020, 03:36:02 PM »
Like you wouldn’t be the first one to be bitch if it ran at 10fps like that did :smug

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« Reply #886 on: November 29, 2020, 04:48:11 AM »
I would, but I have a 3070, so it wont  8)

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« Reply #887 on: November 29, 2020, 08:20:48 AM »
I feel like I'm artificially hyping myself up for this. The cyberpunk setting seems cool but other than that, everytime I see gameplay I'm left feeling like

Maybe by the time the actual PS5 version comes out, I'll have made a decision but for now...eh.

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« Reply #888 on: November 29, 2020, 09:32:08 AM »
I have the eleventh off from work by the way

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« Reply #889 on: November 29, 2020, 12:12:35 PM »
I gotta work the 11th but off Sat/Sun so will catass it all weekend. I expect gameplay roughly as solid as Witcher 3 in a different genre, so kinda janky but fun enough, with the world and storytelling being the real mvps. Will probably be the best game to come out this year but I fully expect for me at least the best game I actually played this year will be Disco Elysium, but not being as good as one of the probably top 3 crpgs of all time ever is no crime.
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« Reply #890 on: November 29, 2020, 12:44:13 PM »
I feel like I'm artificially hyping myself up for this. The cyberpunk setting seems cool but other than that, everytime I see gameplay I'm left feeling like (Image removed from quote.)

Maybe by the time the actual PS5 version comes out, I'll have made a decision but for now...eh.

Breh, it's an open-world cyberpunk RPG. When's the last time you played one of those?
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« Reply #891 on: November 29, 2020, 01:41:39 PM »
Until RE8 next year, this will probably be the last big AAA game for the next six months. Unless Nintendo shadow drops BOTW 2 this Spring.

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« Reply #892 on: November 29, 2020, 01:53:26 PM »
I feel like I'm artificially hyping myself up for this. The cyberpunk setting seems cool but other than that, everytime I see gameplay I'm left feeling like (Image removed from quote.)

Maybe by the time the actual PS5 version comes out, I'll have made a decision but for now...eh.

Breh, it's an open-world cyberpunk RPG. When's the last time you played one of those?

I just feel like the actual gameplay will leave me cold.

But Amazon's got it for $50 and the next gen upgrade is free so I'm kinda locked in still.  :trumps

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« Reply #893 on: November 29, 2020, 02:33:41 PM »
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« Reply #894 on: November 29, 2020, 04:20:01 PM »
GTA had things 100 times more controversial, tbh.

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« Reply #895 on: November 29, 2020, 04:57:56 PM »
The atmosphere has changed a lot since the last GTA came out.

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« Reply #896 on: November 29, 2020, 05:32:01 PM »
GTA had things 100 times more controversial, tbh.
I don't really think anything I've seen is that controversial and yeah GTA has been far more crass. But today's climate is a lot different and parody has a lot more of a critical eye on it. Understandably I think. I'm sure Cyperpunk will have some questionable things and I look forward to smart people putting out arguments and discourse about it.

But I also know that there will be resetera complain over the slightest thing.

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« Reply #897 on: November 29, 2020, 05:38:09 PM »
Driving a bus full of a Loonies to the sausage factory in GTA2  :rejoice

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« Reply #898 on: November 29, 2020, 06:01:23 PM »
One of my many, many bans on ye olde times gaf was in a thread about how Rockstar removed the "Kill all the Haitians!" instruction/graphic from Vice City in like, 2003? I think I posted something like "well if you can't kill the Haitians, who CAN you kill?" and then someone banned me, and then bishoptl unbanned me and laugh quoted my post

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