Nintendo Wii U conference of Wii U conference (tl;dr READ OP FOR BREAKDOWN)

[cool breeze]

 

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I posted that before reading the Pikmin 3 online thread on gaf.  Suddenly it's not so obvious.

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[Huff]

Damiam, what are you doing on nintendoeverything in the first place?

[Damian79]

Its the best place for Nintendo news.  I need good sites for Sony and MS news too.

[Damian79]

No More Heroes was full of blood, tits and sex jokes, and there are plenty of what he refers to as "non-manly titles" on the 360 and PS3. The dude's thesis fails horribly.

He included no more heroes in that list.  Would have been ok without it imo.  I thought he was referring to the focus of modern games these days.

That said "manly" games bomb on Nintendo consoles and "non manly" games bomb on the ps360 consoles.

[DCharlieJP]

Babelfish.yahoo.com

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So, to all of you guys out there who laugh when someone says their favorite developer is Nintendo or that their favorite game is something other than “MANdden NHL 2K10: An Explosion of Testosterone*: It’s not because we’re fanboys. It’s because we just don’t care about your useless, subconscious quest for needing to see the most manly and most explosion-y thing since ‘Avatar’ came out

Translate from : Whimsinese
to : English

Result :

mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi. mi mi mi mi mi mi mi mi. mi mi mi. miiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. mi mi mi.

huge muscles, rugged voices, or overbearing personalities.

[maxy]

The Wii? It’s filled with artistic, weird, and unique games. Fragile, No More Heroes, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Muramasa, Little King’s Story, etc. All of the best Wii games don’t concern themselves with testosterone or manliness. They concern themselves with being games, pieces of art, or innovations. No, they aren’t all amazing, but they also aren’t stupid and manly and detailed. I love it.

[pilonv1]

It’s filled with artistic, weird, and unique games. Fragile, No More Heroes, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Muramasa, Little King’s Story, etc.

[Momo]

The hell is going on on this page

[Damian79]

It’s filled with artistic, weird, and unique games. Fragile, No More Heroes, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Muramasa, Little King’s Story, etc.

Well no one copies them well so they certainly are unique.  The only game that copied and comes close to the quality of those games is Alundra.

P.S. he should have left out both no more heroes and muramasa.  Nothing unique, weird or or artistic about those games.

[Damian79]

i am a bit of a fan of the whimsy and feel a severe disconnect with a lot of what is popular in gaming these days, and i was still rolling my eyes hard reading that shit

True that.  I only posted it because it had a lot of responses for that site.

[DCharlieJP]

i am a bit of a fan of the whimsy and feel a severe disconnect with a lot of what is popular in gaming these days, and i was still rolling my eyes hard reading that shit

yeah, the problem is the whole stance of "it's not that we are fanboys ... but we don't like anything on your platform whilst our platform is FULL of unique, awesome, brilliant, fresh, incredible experiences!"

I am on board for part of the message in that there's a glut of samey-samey stuff out there that is overly Dark World of Grey (BLACK EDITION) and Sepia in My Mittens 3 : Brown's Adventure in Mauveland, but the Wii and DS is also cram full of shovel ware "Let us be doing the low budget TOUCH or WAGGLE! with cartoon figurehead ! Will this Do? Edition" type titles.

[The Sceneman]

asswipe obviously knows nothing of XBLA and PSN, where you can buy whimsical platformers that are better than NSMB for $10

[magus]

i don't really care if not every games ever has achievements but i want them to be globalized (err how can i explain this... like rune factory 3 has achievements but they are exclusive to the games,they don't add to a general score nor there is any page in my profile where it says "you were awesome with that game!") it also would be neat if they could put some extra about them,like i would love if each achievement gave you trophies a-la smash bros

the x360 doesn't have that feature either, that is if you are a filthy pirate with an offline box

wha? i have a page that list all the game i 1000/1000

Its the best place for Nintendo news.  I need good sites for Sony and MS news too.

i feel your pain bro,i too have my nintendo site ruled by a distinguished mentally-challenged fanboy which i keep going on simply because it's so good for getting any eventual news

yeah, the problem is the whole stance of "it's not that we are fanboys ... but we don't like anything on your platform whilst our platform is FULL of unique, awesome, brilliant, fresh, incredible experiences!"

I am on board for part of the message in that there's a glut of samey-samey stuff out there that is overly Dark World of Grey (BLACK EDITION) and Sepia in My Mittens 3 : Brown's Adventure in Mauveland, but the Wii and DS is also cram full of shovel ware "Let us be doing the low budget TOUCH or WAGGLE! with cartoon figurehead ! Will this Do? Edition" type titles.

i think the wii was doing fine at the beginning,i remember enjoying some nice games like chocobo mysterious dungeon or zack & wiki (funny how these keep getting forgotten while that piece of crap of no more heroes gets name dropped) but somewhere along the road everybody stopped giving a fuck,including nintendo... i mean i can sorta understand third party but even nintendo?

[The Sceneman]

i don't really care if not every games ever has achievements but i want them to be globalized (err how can i explain this... like rune factory 3 has achievements but they are exclusive to the games,they don't add to a general score nor there is any page in my profile where it says "you were awesome with that game!") it also would be neat if they could put some extra about them,like i would love if each achievement gave you trophies a-la smash bros

the x360 doesn't have that feature either, that is if you are a filthy pirate with an offline box

wha? i have a page that list all the game i 1000/1000

you are forgetting the most important thing



magus, I live by the golden rule: the man with XBL Gold, rules.

[tiesto]

It’s filled with artistic, weird, and unique games. Fragile, No More Heroes, Zelda, Mario, Mario Kart, Muramasa, Little King’s Story, etc.

Well no one copies them well so they certainly are unique.  The only game that copied and comes close to the quality of those games is Alundra.

P.S. he should have left out both no more heroes and muramasa.  Nothing unique, weird or or artistic about those games.

Zelda clones: Gunman's Proof, Crusader of Centy (great game), Final Fantasy Adventure/Seiken Densetsu 1, Sphinx the Cursed Mummy, that weird Korean Wind Waker knockoff

Mario Kart clones: CTR, Konami Kart Racers, that Jaguar kart racer game, there's been a whole bunch

Mario clones: like 33% of 8/16 bit era games

i think the wii was doing fine at the beginning,i remember enjoying some nice games like chocobo mysterious dungeon or zack & wiki (funny how these keep getting forgotten while that piece of crap of no more heroes gets name dropped) but somewhere along the road everybody stopped giving a fuck,including nintendo... i mean i can sorta understand third party but even nintendo?

Nintendo's got a history for dropping consoles late into their lives, only doling out maybe 1-2 big releases as they gear up for the next generation. I thought the Wii started out with promise, but after the disastrous E3 2008 showing, it was clear Nintendo had no interest in the console. But at least I got Sin and Punishment 2 and Xenoblade out of the deal.

[Momo]

Well no one copies them well so they certainly are unique.  The only game that copied and comes close to the quality of those games is Alundra.

[Damian79]

Zelda clones: Gunman's Proof, Crusader of Centy (great game), Final Fantasy Adventure/Seiken Densetsu 1, Sphinx the Cursed Mummy, that weird Korean Wind Waker knockoff

Mario Kart clones: CTR, Konami Kart Racers, that Jaguar kart racer game, there's been a whole bunch

Mario clones: like 33% of 8/16 bit era games

My point wasnt that there werent knockoffs, just that they werent as good or better than the Nintendo originals other than Alundra.  That said i havent played half of the zelda clones you mentioned.

[tiesto]

Zelda clones: Gunman's Proof, Crusader of Centy (great game), Final Fantasy Adventure/Seiken Densetsu 1, Sphinx the Cursed Mummy, that weird Korean Wind Waker knockoff

Mario Kart clones: CTR, Konami Kart Racers, that Jaguar kart racer game, there's been a whole bunch

Mario clones: like 33% of 8/16 bit era games

My point wasnt that there werent knockoffs, just that they werent as good or better than the Nintendo originals other than Alundra.  That said i havent played half of the zelda clones you mentioned.

You should really give Crusader of Centy and Seiken 1 a shot, both awesome games! There's a translation of Gunman's Proof going around, I'm gonna pick that one up soon once I'm done with XB and Ys Origin.

[The Sceneman]

Okami is a Zelda clone which is leagues ahead of any 3d Zelda. There is no defense argument anyone can make for the Zelda franchise, as it would be wrong.

[Great Rumbler]

Darksiders

[The Sceneman]

Oh yeah that game too. Darksiders is so sweet

[Damian79]

the palest imitations of zelda games these days are the ones nintendo themselves are creating

Pretty much.  The last Zelda was horrendous.

Darksiders is probably a game that i would never play that is much better than Zelda.  For some reason i have no interest in it.

[Joe Molotov]

Can't wait to play this hardcore bloody explosion game on my Manstation 3.

[archnemesis]

Atelier Meruru was great!

[magus]

Atelier Meruru was great!

too many over sexualized little girls

6/10

[Trent Dole]

needed more over sexualized little girls

6/10

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[tiesto]

Can't wait to play this hardcore bloody explosion game on my Manstation 3.

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Is this out in America? I need to get this and Gungnir.

[Mr. Gundam]

Can't wait to play this hardcore bloody explosion game on my Manstation 3.

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Is this out in America? I need to get this and Gungnir.

Came out last month. I'm waiting for a price drop like I did with $20 Totori.

[Momo]

yeah, adult asian women are certainly known for their hefty bosoms

I once saw a pic of what I assume to be a porn actress with gigantic boobs laying in a melon patch with a melon bra.

I have no point in posting this except jogging my own memory

[Diunx]

link?

[Momo]

link?

 

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http://erooups.com/2010/03/12/japanese_round_girl_fuko_and_watermelons_16_pics.html

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[DCharlieJP]

Also I'm in the camp that loved Skyward Sword for the good parts. But man when it got bad it just went off the deep end.

I didn't get more than about 10 minutes into SS before i was annoyed to the point of distraction by just how dire the game was put together. I've moaned about it before but the dialogue is absolute complete fucking garbage following the "why say that in one sentence when i can pad it out for 20 page of faffafafaffafafafafafaf!"

Zelda : Unlimited Faffing.

[Damian79]

Darksiders

YES!

Darksiders is greatness! My love for that game is in how different it is while at the same time taking the best parts of other games and putting them together. Its not a Zelda clone, it took the template and actually expanded upon it. Such a great game.

Darksiders is probably a game that i would never play that is much better than Zelda.  For some reason i have no interest in it.

Oh fucking nut up already and play it. I wasn't interested in it at all until Prole convinced me to try it out and I haven't regretted it. Its better than anything Nintendo could ever come up with anytime soon.

Also I'm in the camp that loved Skyward Sword for the good parts. But man when it got bad it just went off the deep end.

I actually bought the game at full price and sold it to a retailer at less than half price because i had that little interest in it.  Maybe i will try one last time.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://techtroid.co.uk/wii-u-games-using-two-gamepads-are-way-off-12988

[magus]

not included

Online Multiplayer
HD
Multiple Pads Multiplayer

included

Whimsy
maybe DLC if that's not too hard to do too

needed more over sexualized little girls

6/10

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perfect

[Great Rumbler]

"Don't worry, this feature is coming some time in the future. Developers just need to get used to it first."

And how many times have we heard this from Nintendo lately?

[maxy]

Didn't they say that framerate gets cut in half when two tablets are used?

I'm surprised how undeveloped things look on the surface,machine should be going into mass production in like 2 months.

[cool breeze]

It'll depend on the game like 3D on the 3DS.  Some games drop to 30fps in 3D mode, and back to 60 in 2D.

I wonder if playing solely on the 360 controller will increase performance for some games too.

[Eel O'Brian]

Nintendo: Good Enough™

[Stoney Mason]

Yeah, the whole thing feels really "not ready for prime time" in a way that is unusual for Nintendo.  I dunno, I still think this thing has disaster written all over it.  Nintendo execs have got to be suspecting the same thing after the lukewarm E3 response.  This ain't no Wii.

I mostly avoided all the e3 talk over here because of the circle jerkish nature of it all but yeah I didn't think they did a good job of demonstrating to regular people why this thing is cool or essential for gamers. It was always going to be nearly impossible to recreate the Wii phenomenon and they didn't even come close it appears here. A tablet for gaming purposes is cool from a traditional console manufacturer but its simply not a revolution in an age of ipads, vitas, etc.

[Madrun Badrun]

It's really strange that they seem so far behind.  They had to have know that they would do an early and under powered release like the wii once the wii started doing great in the first two years.  So they should have had like four years of knowing when this thing would be out.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

“Asymmetric gameplay is going to be the next major step forward, just like active play was when we launched the Wii,” says Fils-Aime. “We think that’s where developers will focus first."

[Phoenix Dark]

Nintendo: Good Enough™

Nintendo fans:

[Purple Filth]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/

"I think that what we see in terms of online gaming networks on existing dedicated gaming platforms is not particularly well suited to the approach Nintendo has taken," he said.
 
"Therefore, I can't sit here and say to you that we can very quickly overcome or catch up to other companies, which began to work in the online field from many years ago and have been building these online networks on other platforms, and I don't think that would be a smart strategy, either."

Nintendo ignoring the most and doing their own thing it looks like

[Great Rumbler]

"So instead we'll just implement a few pointless social features and call it a day."

[Stoney Mason]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/

"I think that what we see in terms of online gaming networks on existing dedicated gaming platforms is not particularly well suited to the approach Nintendo has taken," he said.
 
"Therefore, I can't sit here and say to you that we can very quickly overcome or catch up to other companies, which began to work in the online field from many years ago and have been building these online networks on other platforms, and I don't think that would be a smart strategy, either."

Nintendo ignoring the most and doing their own thing it looks like

Which is why I have no interest in their platforms anymore. But this approach should be fine for their target market of kids, and man kids.

[Madrun Badrun]

"So instead we'll just implement a few pointless social features and call it a day."

"And keep getting further behind! mwhahahaah" 
*goes back to starring at banana. 

[Momo]

"you can now read princess peach's twitter and facebook streams while playing"

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/

"I think that what we see in terms of online gaming networks on existing dedicated gaming platforms is not particularly well suited to the approach Nintendo has taken," he said.
 
"Therefore, I can't sit here and say to you that we can very quickly overcome or catch up to other companies, which began to work in the online field from many years ago and have been building these online networks on other platforms, and I don't think that would be a smart strategy, either."

Nintendo ignoring the most and doing their own thing it looks like

It seems crazy just how lazy Nintendo is getting.  They're not even bothering to look like they're giving a fuck.

[AdmiralViscen]

Fuck this console

[Human Snorenado]

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353614/iwata-xbox-live-and-psn-are-too-far-developed-for-nintendo-to-catch-up/

"I think that what we see in terms of online gaming networks on existing dedicated gaming platforms is not particularly well suited to the approach Nintendo has taken," he said.
 
"Therefore, I can't sit here and say to you that we can very quickly overcome or catch up to other companies, which began to work in the online field from many years ago and have been building these online networks on other platforms, and I don't think that would be a smart strategy, either."

Nintendo ignoring the most and doing their own thing it looks like

It seems crazy just how lazy Nintendo is getting.  They're not even bothering to look like they're giving a fuck.

I guess they think the Wii/DS gave them "fuck you" money and now they can sit around on the couch, eating donuts.

[Phoenix Dark]

I don't get this at all. They're taking a half step towards the mainstream* gaming market with graphics/ports of popular games, but can't take a similar half step or even full step on something as basic as online functionality? The XBL blueprint has been there for nearly a decade, it shouldn't be hard to replicate it to some degree with a Nintendo twist. This system just sounds like a giant disaster. It'll sell well initially but it won't take long for people to realize it's just another Nintendo system for Nintendo games and nothing else.

*I'm tired of the "hardcore" label. Call Of Duty, Halo, etc are as mainstream as you can get now. If Nintendo wants to half ass it, that audience will look elsewhere again. Part of the reason the 360 has stomped the PS3 this gen is because of XBL and people wanting to play with friends on the same console.

[Sho Nuff]

Making online infrastructures is hard

[Phoenix Dark]

Especially if you've had 5-7 years to do R&D on it but chose not to, apparently.

[Human Snorenado]

Apparently, what Nintendo has taken away from the last decade or so:  online is still a fad, and the bullshit connectivity crap that no one wanted the first time around is STILL the wave of the future.  Also, more mascot games.

[Phoenix Dark]

Yup, four swords bullshit all over again. Wiimote, tablet controller, fit board, motion bar, lmao. Good luck with this shit bros, your target audience flocked to Apple. two years ago.

[Van Cruncheon]

the scarier thing is that if nintendo doesn't have any real network play in its games, it means they probably don't a have a real API surface for it, either, which is YIIIIIIIKESICLES

[pilonv1]

alone together with messages and miis

forever alone with games

[Eel O'Brian]

[Takao]

So apparently another thing not making launch is the regular controller.

Will this even play games at launch?