Author Topic: Nintendo Wii U conference of Wii U conference (tl;dr READ OP FOR BREAKDOWN) (Read 125835 times)

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #900 on:** June 14, 2012, 01:23:58 AM »

Wait, waaaaaa?

Pad or 360 controller?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #901 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:25:58 AM »

He said "regular controller" and not "WII U GAME PAD" so guessing the 360 style one.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #902 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:30:27 AM »

Unveiled at E3 2011
Unfinished rush release Holiday 2012

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #903 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:50:34 AM »

Still sucks.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #904 on:** June 14, 2012, 03:06:14 AM »

At least third parties already have years of experience using a touch screen as a lazy inventory or map screen.

benjipwns · « **Reply #905 on:** June 14, 2012, 07:04:38 AM »

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Nintendo president Satoru Iwata has admitted the Wii U GamePad's tablet screen was almost dropped late in the console's planning stages.

The company was worried the screen's price would drive up the console's overall cost to consumers.

"Sometime during that final discussion we almost gave up on the idea of the additional screen," Iwata told The Telegraph. "This was due to our concern over the expected high cost, it may not have been feasible to create this and sell it at a reasonable price point for the consumers."

The fact Microsoft and Sony have both now produced their own dual-screen concepts, Xbox SmartGlass and Vita Cross-Play, only validated Nintendo's decision, Iwata added.

"It's quicker than before. After our showing of motion control, it took three years for other companies to follow suit. But this time it's just one year after our proposal, even before we brought out the actual product. I think that proves the great potential of what we showed last year."

While the GamePad's touch screen stayed, Nintendo decided to roughly match the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360's graphical power - still a vast improvement from the Wii for third-party publisher's multi-platform releases.

"In the case of the Wii U, we have decided to make it so that it is capable of doing whatever the other two consoles can do, so games are easily portable," Iwata explained.

Beyond the lifespan of the current generation of rivals, Iwata was unfazed by the impending threat of a new Xbox or PlayStation.

"My impression is that the things that happened with Wii vs. 360 or Wii vs. PS3 won't happen again," he added. "If they decide to increase the spec numbers, will the consumers be able to realise the difference from today so much that they can understand it's much superior to today's machine?"

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-06-14-nintendo-almost-dropped-tablet-screen-in-wii-u-gamepad

Momo · « **Reply #906 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:40:32 AM »

"The company was worried the screen's price would drive up the console's overall cost to consumers."

=

"The company was worried the screen's price would eat up their profits."

Momo · « **Reply #907 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:41:33 AM »

"In the case of the Wii U, we have decided to make it so that it is capable of doing whatever the other two consoles can do, so games are easily portable,"

"My impression is that the things that happened with Wii vs. 360 or Wii vs. PS3 won't happen again," he added. "If they decide to increase the spec numbers, will the consumers be able to realise the difference from today so much that they can understand it's much superior to today's machine?"

lol

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #908 on:** June 14, 2012, 09:13:08 AM »

Can we start calling Iwata : "UTwata"?

tiesto · « **Reply #909 on:** June 14, 2012, 09:25:25 AM »

WiiU is a disaster in the making... Even the people I know IRL who are Nintendo loyalists are either cold on the platform or they don't know much about it at all. And it's supposed to come out later this year? The whole thing really needed more time in the oven, and I can't believe Nintendo's repeating the same mistakes they made in prior eras.

Next gen should be interesting to see play out, though considering my taste for weeaboo/retro games I will probably be mostly a 3DS player. I'm sure the Nextbox won't have much interesting for me excepting indies, and PS4 is really up in the air at this point (hopefully it's not the disaster the PS3 and Vita were).

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #910 on:** June 14, 2012, 09:51:39 AM »

As someone said a few pages ago:

Nintendo: Good Enough™

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #911 on:** June 14, 2012, 10:11:59 AM »

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/353719/iwata-not-convinced-that-ps4-and-next-xbox-will-offer-a-true-graphical-leap/

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=478425

maxy · « **Reply #912 on:** June 14, 2012, 10:41:24 AM »

There is some talk among 360 hacking scene about next xbox devkits--12GB RAM inside.

Oh Nintendo'oh.

magus · « **Reply #913 on:** June 14, 2012, 11:12:47 AM »

gaming is turning each day into picking the less worse option,it's either the dumbass hollywood gaming or the stuff these clown propose and half-ass

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #914 on:** June 14, 2012, 12:11:56 PM »

Quote from: maxy on June 14, 2012, 10:41:24 AM

There is some talk among 360 hacking scene about next xbox devkits--12GB RAM inside.

Oh Nintendo'oh.

Is that a good thing/better than WiiU? I'm not familiar with dirt person specs

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #915 on:** June 14, 2012, 01:49:29 PM »

dev kits always have more ram than the finals, DERRR. they hafta support a REAL OS and tools unless you're ass backwards like nintendo and you hafta deploy to 'em over rs-232

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #916 on:** June 14, 2012, 01:50:46 PM »

the VERY best moment in all of this will come next e3, when people really DO SEE THE DIFFERENCE. the ninthing spin will be GEEE-LORIOUS

Purple Filth · « **Reply #917 on:** June 14, 2012, 01:54:32 PM »

With all this mudslinging recently it looks like next gen stuff has finally started.

Surprised to see MS is not in it as yet though

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #918 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:12:37 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on June 14, 2012, 01:50:46 PM

the VERY best moment in all of this will come next e3, when people really DO SEE THE DIFFERENCE. the ninthing spin will be GEEE-LORIOUS

"graphix aren't that important, whimsy, etc etc"

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #919 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:13:53 PM »

put it this way: the era of the ANIMATED GIF has only begun :-(

Steve Youngblood · « **Reply #920 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:14:30 PM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 14, 2012, 02:12:37 PM

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on June 14, 2012, 01:50:46 PM
the VERY best moment in all of this will come next e3, when people really DO SEE THE DIFFERENCE. the ninthing spin will be GEEE-LORIOUS

"graphix aren't that important, whimsy, etc etc"

It's just good business.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #921 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:20:33 PM »

So now Dead Space is a shit franchise that they don't need? Hehe.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #922 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:20:43 PM »

"I showed my grandmother the gameplay trailer for GTAVI and she couldn't tell the difference between it and Zelda Atlas Shield. She did note that GTAVI's city looks enormous but I made sure to inform her that a bunch of stuff on screen doesn't equal higher performance"

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #923 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:24:12 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 14, 2012, 02:20:43 PM

"I showed my grandmother the gameplay trailer for GTAVI and she couldn't tell the difference between it and Zelda Atlas Shield. She did note that GTAVI's city looks enormous but I made sure to inform her that a bunch of stuff on screen doesn't equal higher performance"

Wha? Where is that from?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #924 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:26:36 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on June 14, 2012, 02:20:33 PM

So now Dead Space is a shit franchise that they don't need? Hehe.

Just another lame dudebro shooter, lacking in whimsy and fun.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #925 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:49:00 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on June 14, 2012, 02:24:12 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on June 14, 2012, 02:20:43 PM
"I showed my grandmother the gameplay trailer for GTAVI and she couldn't tell the difference between it and Zelda Atlas Shield. She did note that GTAVI's city looks enormous but I made sure to inform her that a bunch of stuff on screen doesn't equal higher performance"

Wha? Where is that from?

Next year's E3

Takao · « **Reply #926 on:** June 14, 2012, 02:50:20 PM »

Yoshida

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #927 on:** June 14, 2012, 03:05:50 PM »

Nintendo fans still expecting a huge generational leap between the the PS3/360 and the WiiU. You can't make this shit up.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38881182&postcount=563

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #928 on:** June 14, 2012, 03:15:10 PM »

Quote from: Takao on June 14, 2012, 02:50:20 PM

(Image removed from quote.)

Yoshida

Annihilated

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #929 on:** June 14, 2012, 03:20:34 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on June 14, 2012, 03:05:50 PM

Nintendo fans still expecting a huge generational leap between the the PS3/360 and the WiiU. You can't make this shit up.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38881182&postcount=563

Nintendo: If I Were Nintendo™

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #930 on:** June 14, 2012, 03:32:54 PM »

Nintendo wanted to drop the screen because it would have eaten too much into their profits.

Nintendo desperately longs for the Wii Play/Wii Fit days. Nintendo is trying to find a way to rekindle that kind of insane demand while putting in as little effort as possible to do so. They're banking on lightning striking the same spot twice.

Quote from: Trent Dole on June 14, 2012, 02:30:27 AM

Unveiled at E3 2011
Unfinished rush release Holiday 2012

Do you remember the news articles that came out in the months after E3 2011 about Nintendo basically starting the Wii U over from scratch? I know it's around here somewhere, because we all probably ridiculed it but that explains the rushed feeling.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #931 on:** June 14, 2012, 03:47:35 PM »

Uh oh, Drinky. They're calling you out in that Iwata WiiU Power Levels Over 9000 thread.

Mr. Gundam · « **Reply #932 on:** June 14, 2012, 03:49:36 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on June 14, 2012, 03:47:35 PM

Uh oh, Drinky. They're calling you out in that Iwata WiiU Power Levels Over 9000 thread.

Linky for Drinky?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #933 on:** June 14, 2012, 03:52:32 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38882523&postcount=590

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #934 on:** June 14, 2012, 03:53:49 PM »

Quote from: Mr. Gundam on June 14, 2012, 03:49:36 PM

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on June 14, 2012, 03:47:35 PM
Uh oh, Drinky. They're calling you out in that Iwata WiiU Power Levels Over 9000 thread.

Linky for Drinky?

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38883012&postcount=601

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #935 on:** June 14, 2012, 03:58:53 PM »

Oh man, Ntards going for blood

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #936 on:** June 14, 2012, 04:19:58 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov® EDGE™ on June 14, 2012, 03:05:50 PM

Nintendo fans still expecting a huge generational leap between the the PS3/360 and the WiiU. You can't make this shit up.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=38881182&postcount=563

That... that shit has to be a troll, right? RIGHT?

Trent Dole · « **Reply #937 on:** June 14, 2012, 04:54:45 PM »

GAF is full of delusional fucking idiots.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #938 on:** June 14, 2012, 04:59:10 PM »

Group hug everyone

Steve Youngblood · « **Reply #939 on:** June 14, 2012, 05:35:27 PM »

Honest question for Drinky or anyone else with the foggiest idea about designing proprietary, mass-market hardware. Let's say they sell this thing for $300. If taking little to no loss per console is important to you, just how bad is this hardware framed in that light? I know most of the talk over there is silly damage control, but there are at least a couple of people that I tend to not just regard as hopeless fanboys that think that -- even though it's been seven years since the 360 -- getting hardware out the door that is a respectable improvement over the 360 can't be accomplished for anywhere close to what Nintendo would sell it for. Now, this strikes me as disingenuous and/or ignorant, but I'm really not enough of a tech dork to be able to ballpark what a competent console in 2012 should cost.

So, what say you?

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #940 on:** June 14, 2012, 05:46:39 PM »

don't worry - the best game at E3 showing the most hints of next get - running on a high end PC - (Watch Dogs) is probably going Wii U timed exclusive because "you never know what happens behind closed doors" with Nintendo

I doubt Ubi will want to go up against Diablo 3, GTAV, Half Life 3, etc etc... i think the Wii U is already chock full of secret announcements that only exist in the minds of children.

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-- getting hardware out the door that is a respectable improvement over the 360 can't be accomplished for anywhere close to what Nintendo would sell it for

I'm not a Drinky but there may well be some truth in some of the price tag rumours floating around. I would also like to add that if the Wii U -is- indeed 34,980 yen that it's so completely and utterly FUCKED that i don't know where to start. I think Japan might just end gaming at this gen.

Also, Dear Twata-san.... if it's so hard to tell between PS4 and Wii U and, as you recall, it was hard to tell between Wii and X360/PS3.... then how will your fanthings be able to tell the difference between Wii U and PS3/X360? If i were you - i'd be worrying about that... actually... you probably don't... you do , after all, have "the best fans in the world" (i.e. dumb, stupid, buy any old shit, we can slap any price tag we want on this!)

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And it's supposed to come out later this year? The whole thing really needed more time in the oven, and I can't believe Nintendo's repeating the same mistakes they made in prior eras.

I was seriosuly surprised they announced a time frame at E3 as there are strong rumours from several places that the machine will be pushed back. I suspect though that they'd see that as suicide and that getting out -even with the slimmest of games line ups- will be preferable to a delay.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #941 on:** June 14, 2012, 07:06:11 PM »

Nintendo: Half-Baked Is Still Fresh-Baked!™

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #942 on:** June 14, 2012, 07:46:32 PM »

I hope the WiiU launches at $400, for the lulz.

Trent Dole · « **Reply #943 on:** June 14, 2012, 07:54:02 PM »

WiiFuckU would be more like it if they launched at $400. I think they could maybe get away with $350 cause of the holiday season and all, $400 is just... well GAF would buy it I guess.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #944 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:20:02 PM »

$250 or bust

Trent Dole · « **Reply #945 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:24:20 PM »

$250 is not happening at launch. Not from these greedy pricks.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #946 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:27:25 PM »

alright, alright, I'll go to $300 but if it doesn't include nintendoland I'll be making angry posts on videogame forums.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #947 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:30:46 PM »

I'll just be bending over now. No one tell Iwata.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #948 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:47:02 PM »

My pulled out of my ass predictions:

System: $299
Wii U Gamepad: $99
360 Knockoff: $69

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #949 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:52:37 PM »

considering that pad seems to have the specs of one of those $60 taiwanese android 2.2 tablets, i'll go with $299 as well

but i'm gonna say they will impose a nintendo tax on the standalone pad = $129

pilonv1 · « **Reply #950 on:** June 14, 2012, 08:58:47 PM »

3DS was $249 right? Can't see Nintendo releasing a home console at the same price.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #951 on:** June 14, 2012, 09:12:01 PM »

No matter what the Wii U is launched at - no Nthing will be buying it because they expressed horror at Vita because "will wait for ambassador for this old tech" so - i expect them to wait for the same thing to happen for the WiiUsedHardware2007 - just like they pretended they would with the Vita that they had no interest in.

but... let me guess?! OMG THEY WONT?! :O

incredible! it's like they are dickslurping the Twata! who'd a thunk it?! <reggieshrugasBJedbyfanthings>

cool breeze · « **Reply #952 on:** June 15, 2012, 12:29:40 AM »

I thought with the slab in your hands and eight accessible buttons you wouldn't be waggling anymore.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #953 on:** June 15, 2012, 01:00:41 AM »

with the slab in your hand you will finally be able to play last gen quality games in the comfort of your home rather than outside your home like with the Vita... but no one wants console standard games on a portable if you can leave your house with them, only house bound portable console standard gaming please

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #954 on:** June 15, 2012, 01:06:21 AM »

people leave their homes? why?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #955 on:** June 15, 2012, 01:14:15 AM »

Quote from: Linkzg on June 15, 2012, 12:29:40 AM

I thought with the slab in your hands and eight accessible buttons you wouldn't be waggling anymore.

what amazing use of the second screen!

cool breeze · « **Reply #956 on:** June 15, 2012, 01:17:37 AM »

Quote from: DCharlieJP on June 15, 2012, 01:00:41 AM

with the slab in your hand you will finally be able to play last gen quality games in the comfort of your home rather than outside your home like with the Vita... but no one wants console standard games on a portable if you can leave your house with them, only house bound portable console standard gaming please

I do wonder about the range of the wii u. It's impressive how it streams seemingly without lag, but if it's restricted to the same room, you can't play in bed or on the toilet.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #957 on:** June 15, 2012, 01:27:32 AM »

Waggling a remote I can understand, we're all used from years of using cheap batteries, AMIRITE?!

Waggling a slab, on the other hand, is troublesome. I wonder if Nintendo's engineers have factored in wind resistance when they designed it.

I mean even Apple tries to avoid it on the iPad (e.g. Adding a dedicated "undo" button on the keyboard instead of relying solely on waggle as they do on the iPhone/iPod).

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #958 on:** June 15, 2012, 01:34:50 AM »

Oh man, I have a feeling that this thing is going to be the gift that keeps on giving.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #959 on:** June 15, 2012, 01:40:21 AM »

[crowd sourced hate, please help]

A long long time ago
I can still remember how
Wii music used to make me smile
And I knew Nintendo had a chance
That they could make old people dance
And maybe they'd be in profit for a while

But 3DS made me shiver
With huge price cut I'd whimper
Bad news was on "the bore" '
we'd get no port of Di-ab-a-lo

I can't remember if I was jaded
When I read how we got Xenoblade'd
But something riled me deep inside
**The day the whimsy died**
So

[Chorus]
Bye, bye This Lastgen'ian Try
Drove my whimsy to the EmCee but the Emcee did cry
Them "last gen" boys were runnin UE two point five
Singin' this'll be Wii U in 20-one-five
This'll be Wii U in twenty-one-five

.... NEXT !

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