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Quote from: BrandNew on June 18, 2012, 07:54:02 PMshits going to be 700 or 800 minimum. also, I think they're throwing too fucking much into once product.They can always upgrade it later with minimum stuff (USB3, Retina display....etc).
shits going to be 700 or 800 minimum. also, I think they're throwing too fucking much into once product.
Quote from: MCD on June 18, 2012, 07:56:38 PMQuote from: BrandNew on June 18, 2012, 07:54:02 PMshits going to be 700 or 800 minimum. also, I think they're throwing too fucking much into once product.They can always upgrade it later with minimum stuff (USB3, Retina display....etc).The non-tard version already has USB3 though.
Windows RT will come with free MS Office 2015 installed (Desktop, not apps) BTW.
It comes with the classic desktop but no old x86 software works on it. So all your old software like say, Winzip, need to be ported first.
I haven't seen it in action because you can't beta test it with no ARM hardware plus Windows RT can't be reformatted in the old fashioned way. It's closer to an iPad just with the Desktop tacked on.
Windows 8 vs. Windows RT If you don’t need any Windows 8 Pro features, you’re left to choose between Windows 8 (for Intel-compatible PCs) and Windows RT (for ARM-based devices). Most people will probably choose between various PCs and devices since the feature sets of the two software products are so similar. But there are some important factors to consider before you start eyeballing new hardware. Key among them: You cannot upgrade to Windows RT. If you wish to perform an in-place upgrade or migration from an existing PC running Windows 7 Starter, Home Basic, or Home Premium, you will need Windows 8 (or Windows 8 Pro). Windows RT cannot run “legacy” Windows desktop software. And that’s going to be a major blocker for many people. However, don’t confuse what this means: Windows RT does include the desktop environment along with all of the built-in Windows 8 desktop software like Windows Explorer and Task Manager. (And the bundled Office 15 applications, noted below, are Windows desktop applications.) What you can’t do with Windows RT is run x86/x64-based applications. And there are a ton of them out there. Windows RT does not include two Windows 8 features. The desktop-based Windows Media Player application and the Storage Spaces feature are not available in Windows RT. On the flipside, Windows RT does include some advantages over Windows 8. These include: Office 15. Windows RT ships with bundled versions of Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and OneNote 15. Windows 8 users will need to buy these products, or use the Office Web Apps, to get equivalent Office functionality. Device encryption. Windows RT ships with full device encryption, which can protect the data on the device if the drive is removed or otherwise accessed externally. Windows 8 users would need to upgrade to Windows 8 Pro or purchased a third party encryption solution to acquire this functionality. Sometime in the future, we’ll be able to examine and compare Windows 8 PCs and Windows RT devices, which should further muddy the waters. But armed with this information, many people will be able to make their choice right now. If you’ve struggled with Microsoft’s insane product editions line-ups during the Windows Vista and Windows 7 years, this is nothing but good news.
Oh look, PCs with no keyboard and less hard drive space than my shitty old laptop from like seven years ago, awesome! I guess since everyone else is in on the tablet market MS might as well make an attempt too but I really could not care less.
maybe if i sell the ipad i can afford half of the good one
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on June 18, 2012, 07:54:35 PMmaybe if i sell the ipad i can afford half of the good oneThen you can take the MS tablet back and get an iPad 4.
Windows 8 = Windows 7 desktop + tablet interface and apps.In other words, it's not a toy. You can actually play Hentai games with this.
We should all become neo-luddites.
Windows RT cannot run “legacy” Windows desktop software
a full PC that can do basically anything in a nice form-factor with a sweet screen
Yes the Pro one will run all Intel-based desktop software. It's a bit beefier (900 grams vs 600 grams for the RT one).
Look, all I need to know is... will any version of this fucker run Steam?
maybe you can mull that question over in the shower
a full PC that can do basically anything in a nice form-factor with a sweet screen, what could you possibly use that for
Quote from: Cormacaroni on June 18, 2012, 08:55:29 PMa full PC that can do basically anything in a nice form-factor with a sweet screen, what could you possibly use that forIs it a full pc (like a laptop) though?Can I go to indiegames.com and download some new game.exe and install and run it? Can I install CCCP codec pack, acquire some anime eps and watch them? Can I boot up steam and play my games? Throw on MAME and play shmups? Can I use a mouse along with the external keyboard? Can I use an external HDD?If the answer is yes to the above and it is really a windows 7 laptop in thin form, then I'll totally buy it because that's what I want. If it's some closed system (BUY APPS) bs like iOS then it's not for me.
The fascinating thing is the cover, which can act as a keyboard. The trouble with tablets is that you have no proper keyboard... only on-screen. The trouble with the cover as a keyboard is that it has shit feedback... but that's no different from what you already have, except with the cover as a keyboard you won't have the keyboard taking up space on the screen.But it makes me wonder, if the keyboard is basically touch-only and therefore shit, will you bother to even use it? You can basically ignore that functionality and use it as a cover only...I dunno.
Win8/Metro does indeed make iOS look cluttered.
