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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #120 on: October 15, 2012, 11:12:26 AM »
You can stick mount with non-rooted, but it's read only.

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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #121 on: October 15, 2012, 12:15:05 PM »
:lol

Wow what incredibly killer features.

that somehow almighty google overlooked, even though i know that must seem impossible to you

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« Reply #122 on: October 15, 2012, 12:26:59 PM »
the nav bar is weird.  it's three small buttons and a bunch of wasted space.  some apps introduce a fourth button, but they could've at least allowed widget support so you can dump a clock or notifications on it instead of another smaller bar up top.


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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #123 on: October 15, 2012, 02:37:16 PM »
the nav bar is weird.  it's three small buttons and a bunch of wasted space.  some apps introduce a fourth button, but they could've at least allowed widget support so you can dump a clock or notifications on it instead of another smaller bar up top.

That's actually how it works on the "regular" tablet UI:

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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #124 on: October 15, 2012, 02:51:09 PM »
Non-root USB is read-only? So WiFi is the only practical option for transfer of large files off the device?

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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #125 on: October 15, 2012, 04:42:52 PM »
no, we're talking about connecting and using flash drives and card readers and such

plugging it into your pc works fine for file transfers
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« Reply #126 on: October 15, 2012, 04:48:54 PM »
Oh yeah, duh. The PC and USB file transfers are done off the same port on the tablet, right? And it's able to distinguish between the two? Is Google limiting USB access to encourage cloud use?
« Last Edit: October 15, 2012, 04:50:53 PM by Rusty Shackleford »

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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #127 on: October 15, 2012, 04:51:09 PM »
yeah, it's a micro usb port, you have to root it and use a usb otg cable to mount a flash drive as "permanent" install/storage
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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #128 on: October 15, 2012, 04:58:33 PM »
Skimmed some of the reviews...locking USB and no card slot...is this their way of encouraging use of the Google Play system?

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« Reply #129 on: October 15, 2012, 05:11:50 PM »
pretty much!
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« Reply #130 on: October 15, 2012, 05:17:32 PM »
Huh. I didn't think Google would go the Apple route on hardware design (albeit for different reasons?). Seems like other manufacturers are doing similar stuff too. My Droid 4 has a non-removable battery, a first for Motorola apparently.

EDIT: How are you liking the Nexus tablet? I considered waiting for it but got a Galaxy Tab II instead.
« Last Edit: October 15, 2012, 05:19:25 PM by Rusty Shackleford »

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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #131 on: October 16, 2012, 11:53:34 AM »
I like it fine, although I prefer the iPad for some things like reading comics and typing

+ like it better for reading books, it's easier to hold with one hand
+ like it better for gaming (again because of the smaller form factor)
+ like the fact that it's easily tweakable and they didn't lock it down like some tablet manufacturers do
+ really decent battery life considering the specs

- wish it had a rear camera ( i think the ipad camera is pretty useless because it's so big, but i could see myself taking an occasional photo with a 7" tablet)
- wish it had a microsd slot
- wish it had hdmi out
- i can't type worth a shit on a 7" tablet
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« Reply #132 on: October 16, 2012, 04:22:55 PM »
I like it fine, although I prefer the iPad for some things like reading comics and typing

+ like it better for reading books, it's easier to hold with one hand
+ like it better for gaming (again because of the smaller form factor)
+ like the fact that it's easily tweakable and they didn't lock it down like some tablet manufacturers do
+ really decent battery life considering the specs

- wish it had a rear camera ( i think the ipad camera is pretty useless because it's so big, but i could see myself taking an occasional photo with a 7" tablet)
- wish it had a microsd slot
- wish it had hdmi out
- i can't type worth a shit on a 7" tablet

That list is identical to the one I'd make for the Galaxy Tab II sans sd card slot. I still should have waited for the nexus, though, I'm sure the Tegra chipset is far snappier. How's the build quality on yours? I've heard it's been a little iffy for some people.

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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #133 on: October 16, 2012, 05:27:24 PM »
i hear a bit of a "click" noise every once in a while when i am holding it, but i don't have the screen lift issue

honestly, any tablet with a plastic casing is bound to have a couple of creaks
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« Reply #134 on: October 17, 2012, 02:57:41 PM »
I came across my old iPAQ from 2003 today. 222(?) MHz proc, 32 MB RAM,~320x240 frontlit screen. Resistive touchscreen. Windows Mobile. Needed an expansion sleeve for a PCMCIA WiFi card. I thought t was awesome back then to have a 3 lb device for using AIM during class :lol It's amazing how far and fast these devices have evolved.

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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #135 on: October 17, 2012, 03:02:34 PM »
Now HTC have announced a 1080p Android phone in Japan. :o Yeah, progress is crazy.

Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #136 on: October 17, 2012, 03:06:01 PM »
1080p? Wow. Isn't there a point of diminishing returns past which resolutions start to become indistinguishable?

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« Reply #137 on: October 17, 2012, 03:10:42 PM »
It's 440 pixels per inch, insanely good of course but the human eye can distinguish up to around 900 PPI.

1200 PPI is about where we'd ideally want text to be.

I mean, now we're getting to the point where all the great pontificators will go back and forth over whether it's "worth it" (see also: the 60fps vs. 30fps games argument of the past 15 years.) But there's still much room for improvement if companies care to bother (and I'm so, so glad they do.)

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« Reply #138 on: October 17, 2012, 04:16:57 PM »
It's 440 pixels per inch, insanely good of course but the human eye can distinguish up to around 900 PPI.

1200 PPI is about where we'd ideally want text to be.

I mean, now we're getting to the point where all the great pontificators will go back and forth over whether it's "worth it" (see also: the 60fps vs. 30fps games argument of the past 15 years.) But there's still much room for improvement if companies care to bother (and I'm so, so glad they do.)

Yeah I guess I was thinking of our TV. It's 720p and it looks sharp, but when I see my friends's 1080p I just can't tell the difference sitting the usual distance away. I mean, I know conceptually it can fit more information on the screen, but unless they're side by side the look the same, you know?

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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #139 on: October 18, 2012, 03:09:52 PM »


New $250 Chromebook. 0.8-inches thin, 2.5 pounds, Exynos  5 CPU, 11.6-inch 1366x768 screen, 6.5 hour battery life.

I got my mom an OG Samsung Chromebook and the matte screen was incredible and I never wanted to go back to glossy. That screen + more resolution - half the price = :heart

No 3G/4G though. :-\ Oh well.

Engadget hands-on.

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« Reply #141 on: October 18, 2012, 03:29:22 PM »
Looks nice. Like the keyboard!

If you get the non-3G version and don't have access to the Internet at your location, how functional is the OS? What can you do on it?

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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #142 on: October 18, 2012, 03:52:49 PM »
It's probably just a big smartphone then.

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« Reply #143 on: October 18, 2012, 04:59:13 PM »
(Image removed from quote.)

New $250 Chromebook. 0.8-inches thin, 2.5 pounds, Exynos  5 CPU, 11.6-inch 1366x768 screen, 6.5 hour battery life.

I got my mom an OG Samsung Chromebook and the matte screen was incredible and I never wanted to go back to glossy. That screen + more resolution - half the price = :heart

No 3G/4G though. :-\ Oh well.

Engadget hands-on.

Where can I get one?  This would be a great xmas gift for my mom.

EDIT:  looks like no Canadian retailers.  :(
« Last Edit: October 18, 2012, 05:01:50 PM by TheInfelicitousDandy »

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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #144 on: October 18, 2012, 09:08:28 PM »
That has to be the first Chromebook I'm interested in.
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« Reply #145 on: October 18, 2012, 11:46:09 PM »
Looks nice. Like the keyboard!

If you get the non-3G version and don't have access to the Internet at your location, how functional is the OS? What can you do on it?

You can run offline apps, which are kinda hard to come by at this point. A couple important ones are, like Google Drive and Gmail, but it's slim pickings at the moment.

Thankfully Chrome apps v2 will solve this, for the most part. Apps are offline by default and devs have to jump through crazy hoops to include online stuff... just like in "modern" OS's! :P (I'm making a Chrome v2 app atm.)

These apps should hit stable in a few months with Chrome 24 (current is 22.)

Where can I get one?  This would be a great xmas gift for my mom.

EDIT:  looks like no Canadian retailers.  :(

Could you import the UK version?

That has to be the first Chromebook I'm interested in.

From just about every angle it's more attractive.

- Cheaper than the last round of Chromebooks by almost a full 50%
- 1/2 hour longer battery life than last round
- Highest res of any Chromebook (previous ones were 1280x800)
- Most portable (thinnest, lightest)
- Full HDMI instead of Display++ or whatever
- Includes the best parts of Samsung's Chromebooks (awesome matte screen and good keyboard*)
- Subjective, but it just looks like the best Chromebook IMO. Maybe the Cr-48 looks slightly better... but by this point it just looks dated. Yeah, the Samsung logo on the front isn't great, but it isn't bad. The hinge looks bad though, I will say that. But not enough to hold the overall design back. The colors are actually consistent! (The last round of Samsungs were like 4 similar but different shades of gray and metal.)
« Last Edit: October 18, 2012, 11:50:22 PM by Andrex »

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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #146 on: October 19, 2012, 12:41:08 AM »
Aren't chromebooks like gimped laptops?

100 GB of Google Drive though :drool
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« Reply #148 on: October 19, 2012, 02:24:23 AM »
here's some offline apps:

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/collection/offline_enabled#category/collection/offline_enabled

That link can't be viewed with Android. Oh, the irony.

Edit: Works on stock Android browser if "Request desktop version" is checked.

Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #149 on: October 19, 2012, 05:02:59 PM »
Any suggestions on a good Bluetooth keyboard that would work with this?

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« Reply #150 on: October 19, 2012, 05:16:30 PM »
Any suggestions on a good Bluetooth keyboard that would work with this?

With what? This thread covers like four things. :lol

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« Reply #151 on: October 19, 2012, 05:17:56 PM »
Any suggestions on a good Bluetooth keyboard that would work with this?

With what? This thread covers like four things. :lol

:lol Well, the Nexus 7. Preferably with the Galaxy Tab II also, so I can switch between them

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« Reply #152 on: October 19, 2012, 05:20:52 PM »
No idea, but I'm in the market for one too (plus a BT mouse...) So whatever you decide to get, post your thoughts.


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« Reply #154 on: October 19, 2012, 05:46:20 PM »
Ehhh too tiny for me. Looks cool though, I'll keep it in mind...

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« Reply #155 on: October 19, 2012, 06:50:20 PM »
I have this keyboard:

http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Bluetooth-Wireless-Keyboard-Tablets/dp/B004W8EICW

Pairs fine with iPad and Nexus 7.  Bluetooth keyboards aren't great in general, though. Repeated letters, sometimes a bit of lag.
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« Reply #156 on: October 19, 2012, 07:27:22 PM »
I have this keyboard:

http://www.amazon.com/Targus-Bluetooth-Wireless-Keyboard-Tablets/dp/B004W8EICW

Pairs fine with iPad and Nexus 7.  Bluetooth keyboards aren't great in general, though. Repeated letters, sometimes a bit of lag.

Looks great.

What about BT mice?

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« Reply #157 on: October 19, 2012, 08:49:31 PM »
I don't have a BT mouse right now, but I have used a MS one in the past with a netbook and it was fine. Occasionally you'd get a bit of jitter scrolling, but that was about it.

This is pretty close to the one I had:

http://www.amazon.com/Microsoft-Bluetooth-Notebook-Mouse-Business/dp/B005058B56/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1350694020&sr=1-2&keywords=Microsoft+Bluetooth+Notebook+Mouse+5000
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Re: $199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing
« Reply #158 on: January 10, 2013, 10:38:36 AM »
My 3G Chromebook should be here today. :hyper

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« Reply #159 on: January 10, 2013, 11:08:21 AM »
My 3G Chromebook should be here today. :hyper

I can't wait to read your impressions on my 1080p laptop powered by an i7 with an ati videocard.

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« Reply #160 on: January 10, 2013, 11:50:25 AM »
:lol
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« Reply #161 on: January 10, 2013, 12:12:29 PM »
My 3G Chromebook should be here today. :hyper

I can't wait to read your impressions on my 1080p laptop powered by an i7 with an ati videocard.



Posting this via my 1080p laptop powered by an i7 and Ubuntu.

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« Reply #162 on: January 11, 2013, 08:57:30 AM »
The ePeen is strong in this thread.

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« Reply #163 on: January 11, 2013, 10:27:19 AM »
It's really a nice little notebook. When it's side by side with my work laptop I keep thinking "man this screen isn't good," but when I'm just using it I think, "wow, this screen is pretty good!" It's weird.

Battery life is great, thinness and lightness are fantastic. Have yet to try the 3G but that's more of an pseudo-emergency thing (emergency meaning I'm out someplace and bored.)

Kinda wish the screen was a little bigger. I think 13" would be perfect, 11.6" is just a bit too small. The trackpad is really good but takes a little getting used to, also had to set it to maximum cursor speed for it to be tolerable. Unfortunately it doesn't seem like there's a way to increase the speed on plugged in mice? Which is lame. Also, even though this is the only sold Chromebook with Bluetooth, I was still surprised it doesn't support audio devices. So I can't use my wireless headphones, which sucks.

The speed is pretty good, but there are some times it hitches. I love how it's fanless, stays completely dead silent throughout use no matter how much you push it. Doesn't get that warm either, at least compared to my lap burning work laptop or my cheek-scalding Galaxy Nexus. Good battery in a device that runs cool, it's a nice change of pace from some other modern gadgets.

Tried using the HDMI out to stream some Crunchyroll but the video kept hitching even when set to 480p, I don't know if the system can exactly handle outputing 1080p. You also can't close the thing when it's outputing, and the screen stays on but is just black with the cursor, which can be a little distracting.

Basically the hardware is nice but not exactly furtureproof. The OS is pretty nice, very distraction free. The notification area for desktop notifications is a very nice step up from Chrome on normal OS's that I didn't foresee, it's truly useful and really only possible on Chrome OS. Hopefully we see more of that in the future, as Manifest v2 apps take shape.

Lol I don't really know why I wrote this here or who I wrote it for.

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« Reply #164 on: January 11, 2013, 10:36:16 AM »
Lol I don't really know why I wrote this here or who I wrote it for.

Well I'll thank you for the effort. I'm interested in getting a chromebook or tablet this year. I'll end up going with a $200 Nexus/Kindle or the $250 Chromebook. I haven't really decided on which yet. No point in worrying about until I have some extra cash, maybe after my tax refund.
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« Reply #165 on: January 11, 2013, 10:54:49 AM »
Lol I don't really know why I wrote this here or who I wrote it for.

Well I'll thank you for the effort. I'm interested in getting a chromebook or tablet this year. I'll end up going with a $200 Nexus/Kindle or the $250 Chromebook. I haven't really decided on which yet. No point in worrying about until I have some extra cash, maybe after my tax refund.

If you post a lot on forums, I would definitely say get a Chromebook. The keyboard is great and blows touch screen typing away. Nexus/Kindle is better if you read a lot though, the Nexus at least has a better screen.

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« Reply #166 on: January 11, 2013, 11:19:07 AM »
Lol I don't really know why I wrote this here or who I wrote it for.

Well I'll thank you for the effort. I'm interested in getting a chromebook or tablet this year. I'll end up going with a $200 Nexus/Kindle or the $250 Chromebook. I haven't really decided on which yet. No point in worrying about until I have some extra cash, maybe after my tax refund.

If you post a lot on forums, I would definitely say get a Chromebook. The keyboard is great and blows touch screen typing away. Nexus/Kindle is better if you read a lot though, the Nexus at least has a better screen.

For me I think it just comes down to how much I want the full Hulu website in bed. There is a bunch of anime and other shows on hulu I would like to watch but I generally watch stuff in bed after my kid goes to sleep.

I really like the tablet form factor and experience. I have an old ipod touch which I use all the time. The home button only works about a third of the time these days and the performance has only gotten worse over time. I use the kindle app on it a good bit so a nexus or kindle tablet would be great for reading. Overall I would probably prefer a tablet but I don't want to deal with Hulu plus or how most of the shows aren't available in the app

Of course its been like a year since I last tried a hulu app. Maybe its gotten better

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