$199 Tegra 3 Google Nexus 7 Tablet, Jellybean OS, $300 Ball TV Thing

[Eel O'Brian]

Tablet's already leaked, 1280x800 7" screen, Tegra 3, comes with Jellybean OS, $199 8GB - $250 16GB

not a bad price for those specs

watching their conference thing now, first thing they started off with is how Jellybean isn't gonna be a stuttering jankfest

Nexus 7

- made by Asus
- 7" 1280 x 800 display with a Tegra 3 chipset
- Quad-core CPU, 12-core GPU
- Front-facing camera, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, gyroscope and accelerometer
- up to 9 hrs video playback
- 340 Grams (.75 lb)
- Google Play-focused
- streaming or DL for later video
- Shazam type widget for music
- Inside view for Google Maps, can use gyro to "look around" inside restaurants, bars, etc.
- Google Currents magazine reader
- NO microSD expansion slot
- $199 8GB version
- $250 16GB version
- includes a $25 credit for the Google play store and a copy of Transformers: Dark of the Moon along with the latest Bourne book.
- can preorder now, ships in mid-July

[fart]

note to self: ask googler friends for their freebie tablets.

[Eel O'Brian]

- Encrypted apps, device-specific keys for paid apps
- incremental app updates so you won't have to DL the whole thing every time

[fart]

yah but are they ever going to fix the mess that is android permissions? INQUIRING MINDS WANT TO KNOW

[Eel O'Brian]

Dunno, but they are addressing some of the bullshit that turned me off to Android OS

If they allow hiding the status/menu bar, and smooth that shit up like they say they're gonna, and really come in at $199 for that Tegra 3 Nexus 7 (supposedly made by Asus), that might be a neat little kickaround device

[Eel O'Brian]

Nexus 7

- made by Asus
- 7" 1280 x 800 display with a Tegra 3 chipset
- Quad-core CPU, 12-core GPU
- Front-facing camera, WiFi, Bluetooth, GPS, gyroscope and accelerometer
- up to 9 hrs video playback
- 340 Grams (.75 lb)
- Google Play-focused
- streaming or DL for later video
- Shazam type widget for music
- Inside view for Google Maps, can use gyro to "look around" inside restaurants, bars, etc.
- Google Currents magazine reader
- NO microSD expansion slot
- $199 8GB version
- $250 16GB version
- includes a $25 credit for the Google play store and a copy of Transformers: Dark of the Moon along with the latest Bourne book.
- can preorder now, ships in mid-July

[fart]

this is wifi only right?

[Eel O'Brian]

yeah

[Eel O'Brian]

They also just announced some wretched-looking $299 spherical Apple TV-type-thing for music and videos

[fart]

it looks like a huge turd

[Eel O'Brian]

preorder link for those interested

http://www.google.com/nexus/#/7

[brawndolicious]

The Nexus 7 looks sexy as hell. Priced aggressively too. At first I thought it would be completely useless trying to read magazines on a 7 inch screen but then they showed how it automatically reformats magazines for the tablet. Then I was like :O


What I don't get though is why Asus is selling such a competitive tablet at such a low cost, it'll eat into their 10 inch tablet sales.

They also just announced some wretched-looking $299 spherical Apple TV-type-thing for music and videos

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I have no idea how they expect to sell that. It's three times the price of an Apple TV and only $50 less than a Galaxy Nexus. I guess it has an amp but still wtf. It has a lot of cool software to it but nothing to justify the high price.

[fart]

asus is not selling many of their 10" tablets due in non-trivial part to their lack of brand equity. cries and crawls back to ODM/OEM business

[fistfulofmetal]

wtf is with the bezel on this thing? it's like half bezel.

[fart]

note that by turd i specifically mean the dark matter turds from futurama.

[Joe Molotov]

They also just announced some wretched-looking $299 spherical Apple TV-type-thing for music and videos

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That looks like some HAL-9000, Big Brother is watching you shit.

[Eel O'Brian]

kinda interested as a media device i can take to work and fuck around with whenever there's downtime

sometimes i have to wait an hour or so for the carpet guys or whoever to finish working in an apt (like i'm doing right now) - for now i can just walk home, but when i get married i'll be living nearly half an hour away, and there's no way in hell i am bringing my ipad to a painting job

[AdmiralViscen]

Why is the tv thing more expensive than a full tablet?

[Brehvolution]

With all the money you save watching downloaded movies, it eventually pays for itself.

[brawndolicious]

Why is the tv thing more expensive than a full tablet?

apparently it's made in the USA.

http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/27/3121118/nexus-q-tear-down-manufactured-us

[Reb]

USA! USA! USA!

[G The Resurrected]

Why is the tv thing more expensive than a full tablet?

It's due in part to a few things:

Made in the USA the pcb's are manufactured here too!

The internal audio amplifier was created in part with the team at Sonos (a high end audio product company)

See all those pretty color's it illuminates? Those are created by the soul gems of tiny creatures eaten by the google cloud.

I went ahead and ordered a Nexus 7 cause its $200 bucks ($249 for a 16gb version) and its Tegra 3. The Microsoft Surface tablet is running the same Tegra 3 and it costs $599.

I'm still lost on glass, it needs to be an accessory to your phone not something that is a phone all in one device. It'd cut down on its footprint if it was a bluetooth device and be more appealing in the short-term which would get it into more hands quicker. Then later on it can be a all in one device when technology catches up to the design elements needed for a device that's out of the way.

[fart]

the sonos amplifiers are nice, but they're very overpriced LM-based chipamps iirc. i wouldn't expect a huge amount of the amplifier in it, particularly if you don't go to extra effort to buy extremely high efficiency speakers.

[Tasty]

Jelly Bean sounds pretty hot, hopefully Project Butter delivers. A lot of the things they said they fixed (UI layer especially) seems to be in direct response to this post. The demo they gave was really encouraging.

Google Glass sounds awesome. $1500 for pre-alpha harder not even hitting for another six months is... umm, at least it shows the project is actually moving along. Reminds me of the Cr-48 pilot program actually. Early 2014 consumer availability for Glass? From the price it sounds like it includes a whole computer, and isn't just an extension of your phone or whatever. Super reassuring it weighs as much or less than a pair of sunglasses.

N7 is pretty cool. I'll probably get it because of how cheap it is and my 2-year old netbook's been failing me. I think I prefer 10" tabs though, cause of comic reading.

NQ is crazy and probably a dumb move, reminds me of the initial wave of GTV. In fact GTV may kill it now that you can get a GTV box by Vizio for $99 now.

Google+ tablet app is neat, should work well on the N7. Was hoping for the third-party app floodgates to be opened though, not just for Hangouts...

[Eel O'Brian]

Transitions to Lights Out and Full Screen Modes

New system UI flags in View let you to cleanly transition from a normal application UI (with action bar, navigation bar, and system bar visible), to "lights out mode" (with status bar and action bar hidden and navigation bar dimmed) or "full screen mode" (with status bar, action bar, and navigation bar all hidden).

http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html

okay, i might be down for this now

not having the full screen option in ics was the dumbs

[Human Snorenado]

See if you can fuck around with one before buying Eel.

I would be interested in shit like this if they didn't have such dumb sounding names for shit.  "Jellybean", really?  Come the fuck on.  Name your shit after rulers of the ancient world or something.  "Yo dog, you get that new Google tablet with the Alexander of Macedonia OS?"  "Shit bro, I'm waiting on the Genghis Khan OS upgrade."

[Tasty]

Transitions to Lights Out and Full Screen Modes

New system UI flags in View let you to cleanly transition from a normal application UI (with action bar, navigation bar, and system bar visible), to "lights out mode" (with status bar and action bar hidden and navigation bar dimmed) or "full screen mode" (with status bar, action bar, and navigation bar all hidden).

http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html

okay, i might be down for this now

not having the full screen option in ics was the dumbs

Finally.

[brawndolicious]

See if you can fuck around with one before buying Eel.

I would be interested in shit like this if they didn't have such dumb sounding names for shit.  "Jellybean", really?  Come the fuck on.  Name your shit after rulers of the ancient world or something.  "Yo dog, you get that new Google tablet with the Alexander of Macedonia OS?"  "Shit bro, I'm waiting on the Genghis Khan OS upgrade."

They go in alphabetical order.

cupcake
donut
eclair
froyo
gingerbread
honeycomb
ice cream sandwich
jelly bean

Always a dessert item too. I think the next one will to be named key lime pie or something. It could get crazy once they reach the end of the alphabet.

[DCharlieJP]

waiting for the creampie update or the custard slice update

[Tasty]

waiting for the creampie update or the custard slice update

That'll happen after the hit Z and loop back around.

[Himu]

why should anyone be excited for this over an ipad

[Eel O'Brian]

it's $200 and has bitchin' internals?

it's not an ipad competitor, it's a kindle fire competitor

[Pringo]

why should anyone be excited for this over an ipad

a) You want a tablet but don't want to spend very much money on one.
b) You really prefer a 7" form factor.

I think that's more or less it.

[Himu]

Ah, so it's a kindle fire competitor? If that's so, I hope it has a better display. Kindle Fire is horrible for reading books.

[Eel O'Brian]

engadget had a hands-on and said the screen was really nice, ips

[Joe Molotov]

See if you can fuck around with one before buying Eel.

I would be interested in shit like this if they didn't have such dumb sounding names for shit.  "Jellybean", really?  Come the fuck on.  Name your shit after rulers of the ancient world or something.  "Yo dog, you get that new Google tablet with the Alexander of Macedonia OS?"  "Shit bro, I'm waiting on the Genghis Khan OS upgrade."

They go in alphabetical order.

cupcake
donut
eclair
froyo
gingerbread
honeycomb
ice cream sandwich
jelly bean

Always a dessert item too. I think the next one will to be named key lime pie or something. It could get crazy once they reach the end of the alphabet.

Can't wait for Zucchini Bread, shit's gonna be rad.

[Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich]

think I'll wait and see what Amazon does in response to this. I *love* the 7-inch formfactor on my Blackberry tablet, but would like more apps to screw around with.

Also 1280x800 is much appreciated as I'm a resolution whore.

[Beezy]

Android 4.1 leaked for all Galaxy Nexus phones. I've never rooted my phone before, but I'm seriously thinking about doing it now.

[bork]

Transitions to Lights Out and Full Screen Modes

New system UI flags in View let you to cleanly transition from a normal application UI (with action bar, navigation bar, and system bar visible), to "lights out mode" (with status bar and action bar hidden and navigation bar dimmed) or "full screen mode" (with status bar, action bar, and navigation bar all hidden).

http://developer.android.com/about/versions/jelly-bean.html

okay, i might be down for this now

not having the full screen option in ics was the dumbs

Why?  Didn't you end up getting an iPad 3?

[Eel O'Brian]

Yes, but I'm rarely ever going to leave the house with it, and certainly am never taking it to work

This would just be for kicking around, something I could tote with me, slap inside a ziplock bag, and use at work during down times without panicking over getting paint dust all over it

Not gonna get it right away, I have $20 in Best Buy RZ certificates coming to me from my iPad purchase so I'm gonna hang back for a while and see if they carry it

early reviews:


http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/nexus-7-review/
http://www.slashgear.com/google-nexus-7-review-28236114/

[TakingBackSunday]

okay I'm kinda digging this.  Might bite.

[G The Resurrected]

okay I'm kinda digging this.  Might bite.

You need to buy it now, I just got home and am charging mine up right now.

[chronovore]

The sphere Q thing is nice, but that price is kuh-razy.

[CajoleJuice]

Another review, with video: http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3125396/google-nexus-7-review

I might finally bite on a tablet.

[Tasty]

Making an ICS/JB app.

Love that Android apps actually can look good by default now.

[bork]

Another review, with video: http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3125396/google-nexus-7-review

I might finally bite on a tablet.

From watching that, I don't like that there's not a lot of tablet specific apps.

But I'd like to get one of these cheaper tablets for my wife (I have zero interest in them).  Will wait and see what the Windows 8 tablets are like.

[Cormacaroni]

looks pretty rad.

side note - It is just depressing how completely irrelevant Japan is to communications high tech these days. Nothing cool is built or designed here anymore.

[Pringo]

side note - It is just depressing how completely irrelevant Japan is to communications high tech these days. Nothing cool is built or designed here anymore.

What's the deal with that anyways? Not just mobile/communication stuff but tech in general. Japan was consistently the leader in tons of areas for a long time but it seems in like the past 5-10 years everything's shifted to Korean and American companies.

[Tasty]

looks pretty rad.

side note - It is just depressing how completely irrelevant Japan is to communications high tech these days. Nothing cool is built or designed here anymore.

Side note to that - I hope the Nexus Q, even though it's likely to utterly fail, starts a trend of design and manufacturing returning to America. 3 to 4 million jobs would be a big boost and just what the country needs right now. Also so that I don't feel slimey buying electronics made in China.

[fistfulofmetal]

blah. i went to install jelly bean on my galaxy nexus and now i'm not getting any data connection. trying to redo it and it still isn't working

i was following pretty simple directions so i dunno.

how do i get this thing back to stock 4.04? i've been searching around and i'm not making much headway.

[Cormacaroni]

side note - It is just depressing how completely irrelevant Japan is to communications high tech these days. Nothing cool is built or designed here anymore.

What's the deal with that anyways? Not just mobile/communication stuff but tech in general. Japan was consistently the leader in tons of areas for a long time but it seems in like the past 5-10 years everything's shifted to Korean and American companies.

Somewhat simplistic but I think it boils down to this: Japanese companies just are not set up in a way that punishes failure and rewards success. So any innovations at firms like Sony and Toshiba have been dragged down by failures elsewhere in the company. There is also a pronounced tendency to focus on what they think the domestic market wants, resulting in products that don't sell overseas for a number of reasons (the 'Galapagos effect').

[G The Resurrected]

blah. i went to install jelly bean on my galaxy nexus and now i'm not getting any data connection. trying to redo it and it still isn't working

i was following pretty simple directions so i dunno.

how do i get this thing back to stock 4.04? i've been searching around and i'm not making much headway.

Can you get back into clockwork mod? Or are you using a different method all together?

I've been enjoying the crap out of the Nexus 7. Its a great form factor and just right for what I want to do. I can't get a damn case for it or protector so I'm not using it too much right now. Google needs to allow side loading of books into Google Play books. They allow us to put up music on the play music service but not books it makes no damn sense.

Nexus Q is an awesomely designed paper weight. The thing is just not all that great. I don't know why they don't have other services or app's on it at the start. If someone was to look at a Roku or aTV and then this thing they would get both of those and a $100 itunes card. No netflix, hulu plus, pandora, or other services = screwed!

[Tasty]

The Nexus Q's only saving grace will be if XDA hacks Google TV onto it.

blah. i went to install jelly bean on my galaxy nexus and now i'm not getting any data connection. trying to redo it and it still isn't working

i was following pretty simple directions so i dunno.

how do i get this thing back to stock 4.04? i've been searching around and i'm not making much headway.

Were you installing the GSM version on your Verizon GNex, or vice versa?

[fistfulofmetal]

Were you installing the GSM version on your Verizon GNex, or vice versa?

using this method:
http://www.theverge.com/2012/6/29/3126054/how-to-install-vanilla-stock-jelly-bean-on-gsm-galaxy-nexus-now

[G The Resurrected]

Have you tried to add the radio's to your device? I've read a few people have had some issues with either their data/cellular radio's not being working correctly. It seems it might be something they'll fix when the officially release 4.1 on the device later in the month.

[fistfulofmetal]

Have you tried to add the radio's to your device?

dunno how to do this. any how-tos I can follow?

[chronovore]

looks pretty rad.

side note - It is just depressing how completely irrelevant Japan is to communications high tech these days. Nothing cool is built or designed here anymore.

I was lamenting this, along with the decreasing relevance of its role in video games repeatedly over the weekend.

[Cormacaroni]

Well, games tech is like the only thing left, and even that stuff is pretty well commoditized by now. In a world where you can buy a fully-functioning tablet for $50 in Shanghai or walk out off a store with an iPhone 4S for 'free' with a contract, it's hard to call a Vita or a 3DS amazing portable tech.

[Eel O'Brian]

Kind of on-topic: I think the larger companies will eventually come around and lose their resistance to offering in-house controller peripherals to their phones/tablets, too. Nothing built in that would add bulk to the devices, but certainly controller cradles for phones or bluetooth controllers for tablets which officially provide the option (like third parties are already offering). Once they realize they've essentially been ignoring a steady stream of money from that particular segment, that is.

[chronovore]

Yeah, if there was a fantastic controller with a functioning, approved API which allowed seamless support, Nintendo's currently shitting brickstream would convert to sideways bricks.