Hmmm. TEXP, I said that the pc versions of the GTA games are fine, but I mostly talking about the ps2 versions. GTAIV for pc is a monster and requires a quad core to run great, and even then, people with the same rig set ups have varying results. On the other hand, you have the GTAIV expansions, which run a lot better. I didn't realize the GTA pack came with IV because past GTA packs iirc didn't.