My 3DS XL thread - come join the fun!

[demi]

Himu has a job, he doesnt need to support piracy.

[Tasty]

Andrex will be pleased to know I got Poke'mon Bw2 instead of Shinobi.

Oscar's gonna take you out now.

Between this and the juice thread, you're alright Himumumu. 

[Rusty Shackleford]

Himu has a job, he doesnt need to support piracy.

I agree with your anti-piracy stance, but sometimes it's nice to condense games you own onto a single cartridge.

[TakingBackSunday]

that's why I like usb loading on the wii

 

[Rusty Shackleford]

that's why I like usb loading on the wii

 

Yeah the WODE was great for Wii and GC games. At one point I had like 25 Gamecube games. Took up too much damn shelf space. Put them on the WODE and boxed up the games. SD card loading was nice.

[Tasty]

USB loading is fine since you rip the games yourself. Dolphin too.

But I dunno, the fact you can't do that for DS games for R4 or whatever makes it a lot shakier IMO. To get a game you need to go to... certain sites, and the temptation to just fill up on all you can is just too close for comfort.

YMMV.

[Rusty Shackleford]

USB loading is fine since you rip the games yourself. Dolphin too.

But I dunno, the fact you can't do that for DS games for R4 or whatever makes it a lot shakier IMO. To get a game you need to go to... certain sites, and the temptation to just fill up on all you can is just too close for comfort.

YMMV.

Au contraire! If you have an EZ Flash IV you can use a program to get direct dumps from your DS games. That's actually what I used to do mine, I felt the same way you do about getting them off websites. One "archival" copy, created by you, is allowed under U.S. copyright law.

[TakingBackSunday]

I've been meaning to use that homebrew program that lets you load up GC games on the wii from a usb drive, but I'd have to reformat the external (it's still on WBFS  ).  It would take forever.

[Rusty Shackleford]

I've been meaning to use that homebrew program that lets you load up GC games on the wii from a usb drive, but I'd have to reformat the external (it's still on WBFS  ).  It would take forever.

I had a similar problem. My external drive was EXT3 and I didn't want to reformat it. I think there's a program (WBFS File Manager? something like that) that can talk to WBFS and FAT/NTFS drives simultaneously. I just gave up on reformatting and moved a couple games to a 16GB microSD and used that with a card reader in the wii instead.

[Tasty]

What did you just say.

[Himu]

My skills have NOT dulled.

And I just wanted a traditional rpg. I haven't played one in so long, and a Poke'mon title even longer. This is the first Poke'mon title I've bought since Blue and I really like it.

[Tasty]

My skills have NOT dulled.

And I just wanted a traditional rpg. I haven't played one in so long, and a Poke'mon title even longer. This is the first Poke'mon title I've bought since Blue and I really like it.

That's definitely a long gap.

Makes you ragging on Pokemon earlier a little more egregious though.

[Tasty]

ha ha, look at the tears from the babbies

I'll leave your Pokeymans a bloodied mass of bodies at the bottom of Route 223, mofo. Bring it.

[Himu]

At the store, the guy who sold me Poke'mon Black 2 was named Andrew. When I looked at the digital reciept thing that you swipe your card through, I thought it said Andrex. I looked up nervously, he just smiled and nodded.

[Tasty]

At the store, the guy who sold me Poke'mon Black 2 was named Andrew. When I looked at the digital reciept thing that you swipe your card through, I thought it said Andrex. I looked up nervously, he just smiled and nodded.

My IRL name is Andrew.

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You should get some new sneakers, Himu.

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[Rusty Shackleford]

I haven't played since Emerald & Leafgreen. Andrex, is the text that bad in the newer Pokemon when you use the entire 3DS XL screen? The only one I've had problems with is chrono trigger - the font in that game is eye bleedingly tiny.

[Himu]

Text is fine in BW2.

Also Lillipup is the cutest Poke'tard ever.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Text is fine in BW2.

Also Lillipup is the cutest Poke'tard ever.

Are you a purist with the DS game scaling or do you go full screen?

[Himu]

I have it in default 3ds ds mode.

[Rusty Shackleford]

You can hold down select(?) as you click the card slot icon and it should display DS games in their native resolution. Looks almost identical to the DSL in size. A lot better than the old 3ds anyway.

[Himu]

Tried the Resident Evil: Revelations demo. I like the idea and atmosphere of it, but combat takes too much work. It takes too much effort to kill these enemies; too many shots, too many knife hits, and there doesn't seem to be an RE4/5 hit spot (knee, head, arm) system in place either, which makes melee feel really random. Am I doing something wrong?

[Tasty]

You can hold down select(?) as you click the card slot icon and it should display DS games in their native resolution. Looks almost identical to the DSL in size. A lot better than the old 3ds anyway.

Yup. XL + original res = only way to go.

Text is fine in BW2.

Also Lillipup is the cutest Poke'tard ever.

Be warned, it loses the cuteness when it evolves (duh, I guess.) Opinions on Stoutland were mixed from what I remember of the original BW thread.

[Himu]

For a game with limited inventory and ammo, that's a good idea, how?

[Tasty]

I didn't enjoy the Rev demo much either but mostly cause I kept reaching for the nonexistent second pad. I was so distracted by that I didn't notice the bullet sponges, but I knew something was off about them. I hate bullet sponges. 

I can tell it's a quality game though, but... Gonna wait for the XL CPP/eShop release.

[Himu]

I forgot how grindy Poke'mon is. Fight Poke'mon that are levels 5-7 in the wild regularly, end up fighting gym leader with Poke'mon that are levels 11 and 13 (!) when your highest Poke'mon is level 10.

What rpg makes the bosses level double of that of the regular mobs?

[demi]

You shouldnt need to grind if you use the weaknesses /smt

[Himu]

Yeah, I beat em with my level 8 and 10's. The first gym doesn't have weaknesses though!

[Tasty]

I was 3 levels higher than the first gym leader and I had like two wild battles.

Then again I was basically just using my starter. The experience scaling in Gen 5 isn't kind to the strategy of buffing up a single Pokemon to steamroll everything with, but it's still fairly viable I'm finding.

[Tasty]

Yeah, I beat em with my level 8 and 10's. The first gym doesn't have weaknesses though!

Err, the dude RIGHT before you go into the gym area tells you to catch some fighting types.

Fighting > Normal

[Himu]

I caught every Poke'mon I encountered! In hindsight it was probably a bad idea because the dark grass on the way to the next city has higher level version of the poke'mon I already caught.

Theatrhythm made me cry.

[Himu]

A quote from Nobuo:

“I played Theatrhythm Final Fantasy for the first time today. Not too shabby! As I remembered various things from the past 20 years, I was reduced to tears. FF music fans should definitely play it. Won’t you cry with me?”

I will cry with you Nobuo.

[demi]

I didn't enjoy the Rev demo much either but mostly cause I kept reaching for the nonexistent second pad. I was so distracted by that I didn't notice the bullet sponges, but I knew something was off about them. I hate bullet sponges. 

I can tell it's a quality game though, but... Gonna wait for the XL CPP/eShop release.

Nintendo appreciates your patronage. Game is fine as-is.

[Tasty]

I caught every Poke'mon I encountered! In hindsight it was probably a bad idea because the dark grass on the way to the next city has higher level version of the poke'mon I already caught.

Theatrhythm made me cry.

Apparently there were some Riolu on the ranch but I never saw them (again, I avoided wild battles.) Would have definitely got one if I had, Lucario would probably break the first half of the game by itself.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Are there plans to improve/expand the Pokedex 3D app? Seems like all the ones I get are BW-specific. Do you eventually get Ru/Sa or older entries?

[Himu]

I caught every Poke'mon I encountered! In hindsight it was probably a bad idea because the dark grass on the way to the next city has higher level version of the poke'mon I already caught.

Theatrhythm made me cry.

Apparently there were some Riolu on the ranch but I never saw them (again, I avoided wild battles.) Would have definitely got one if I had, Lucario would probably break the first half of the game by itself.

I got one of those Riolu's.

[Himu]

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added myself to the list

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AmqeniHTSL2LdF9tUk9QcjVPdEZGbk8tUEdZTHZYR1E&rm=full#gid=0

If you see that my mii is a girl don't get freaked out, I"m working issues out

[bork]

Tried the Resident Evil: Revelations demo. I like the idea and atmosphere of it, but combat takes too much work. It takes too much effort to kill these enemies; too many shots, too many knife hits, and there doesn't seem to be an RE4/5 hit spot (knee, head, arm) system in place either, which makes melee feel really random. Am I doing something wrong?

There are hit spots on some of the enemies, but the enemies are tougher and require more bullets to put down than the RE4/5 enemies did.  Melee is still there too but again it takes more to stun enemies.  Ammo doesn't really end up being too much of a problem.

Also all this applies to story mode- in raid mode you can level up and suddenly those same enemies go down with 1-2 bullets.   

[Tasty]

I caught every Poke'mon I encountered! In hindsight it was probably a bad idea because the dark grass on the way to the next city has higher level version of the poke'mon I already caught.

Theatrhythm made me cry.

Apparently there were some Riolu on the ranch but I never saw them (again, I avoided wild battles.) Would have definitely got one if I had, Lucario would probably break the first half of the game by itself.

I got one of those Riolu's.

Well uh, Riolu is fighting type and should know Counter (a fighting type move that hits back double of whatever just hit you, if it was physical), which would basically steam roll Cheren, dude.

[Himu]

You act like I care. I kicked Cheren's ass with a level 9 Poke'mon against his level 13.

Anyways, Poke'mon Black is my first Poke'mon since Blue and I'm really enjoying it. Its been close to 13 years or so years since I was heavy into Poke'mon, and it has evolved a bit but it's still mostly familiar - in a good way. I like that the Poke'mon Center is the same theme it was when I was a kid, with the same Poke'mon Healing chime. It has the sense of adventure, sort of, that I crave, and it has a lot of unique -isms that separate it from games like SMT. I still catch a catch em all addiction, after all, after 13 years, whereas in SMT I've never had the urge to fill my compendium. I don't know what it is, but I need those Poke'mon.

I think that the 3ds will probably see a giant reboot of the Poke'mon series, and if Nintendo makes another top down 2d version instead of a full expansive 3d version with visuals similar to Dragon Quest VIII, they are fools.

Ideally, the first Poke'mon - on 3ds - should be fully 3d. They should downscale their Poke'mon number to a few hundred rather than their full roster now, but redesign them. Every single one. Give us a Poke'mon for a new generation. You should have large fields like Final Fantasy XII/Xenoblade with paths and Poke'mon bushes/grass. When it comes to battle, encounters should be visible, making it so that you could possibly sneak up on Poke'mon to catch them easier, even without using a Poke'mon. During battle, when picking abilities, you should see both trainers and how they react to different moves, but when it comes to the actual moves, the action should zoom in on the Poke'mon. In dungeons, you should be able to solve puzzles - again, ala DQ8! - by sending specific Poke'mon to do them; think you're in a grass dungeon and need to burn a tree, so you use a Charmander to burn the fuck out of it. There should be quests, Monster Hunter-esque and Final Fantasy XII hunts quests, but instead of beating up that huge wyvern, you either catch it, or beat it to a pulp depending on the mission, and wrap it all up with a neat little Final Fantasy XII hunt-like story to give the world some cohesion and believability.

Since the 3ds now has an online system, the game should also have online co-op ala Dark Souls, and feature a glimpse of what other trainers are doing, though you can't interact with them. Just like Souls games.

The next Poke'mon needs to be something completely from left field, and a completely transformation to the third dimension. This is a prime opportunity to not be seen as hacks, though playing Black 2 shows they're far from hacks. I think doing this would make them more bucks than usual.

[demi]

Nah, it will play exactly the same, except more, er, 3D. And silly streetpass/spotpass implementation. Pokemon is the definition of a "safe" series. There is no way they flip the script on it. As long as Andrex keeps buying it, that's how it gets made.

[Himu]

Haha, true enough.

[Tasty]

You act like I care. I kicked Cheren's ass with a level 9 Poke'mon against his level 13.

You obviously care enough to whine  about it. "Waaaah why is first gym leader 4 levels above me.  "

I think that the 3ds will probably see a giant reboot of the Poke'mon series, and if Nintendo makes another top down 2d version instead of a full expansive 3d version with visuals similar to Dragon Quest VIII, they are fools.

The next Poke'mon needs to be something completely from left field, and a completely transformation to the third dimension. This is a prime opportunity to not be seen as hacks, though playing Black 2 shows they're far from hacks. I think doing this would make them more bucks than usual.

[Himu]

I don't think making a statement that the gym leader's poke'mon are double that of the normals is whining, especially when you beat him on your first attempt, but okay. Keep fucking that chicken.

[Tasty]

Oscar was right about you.

[Himu]

How many rpgs have you played, Andrex? I'm going to wager, very few, if many at all. Typically in an rpg, if you're fighting enemies levels 4-7, the boss WON'T be level 13. That doesn't even make any sense. Stating such doesn't mean you suck, it means you have a keen observation on rpg design. Especially since this is over fucking POKE'MON.

[Tasty]

"I don't know how much you know about Japanese RPG's, but I'm an expert."



"The boss shouldn't be any stronger than the normal enemies, or else!"

Brilliant thinking.

Not to mention the trainers were 8-9 anyways.

[Himu]

8-9 is still not 13. That means your average is going to be levels 9-10, and unless you're grinding, or like you and only use ONE Poke'mon out of the entire intro bit - and who the fuck does this? - there's no way you will be approaching level 13. If you have 6 Poke'mon, and go up against trainers that are levels 8-9, you aren't going to get much XP, since XP is shared, and you can only fight trainers once. Oops! This ultimately doesn't matter, because kicking his ass is about effortless as taking a shit, but it's reasonable to note because it makes zero sense.

Also stronger than normal enemies does not equate to double the level! More than that, in many rpgs, the boss is about one level above the average - sometimes even the same level - and yet still stronger.

[Himu]

Finally, your argument that Poke'mon ISN'T grindy when you're fighting level 7 mobs when the boss is level 13, is kind of falling on deaf ears! Any other rpg would have raised the average level of the enemies to levels 11 or 12. Poke'mon keeps it at 4-7. Keep living in denial land, Andrex! Even SMT isn't that annoying to keep your demons levels up!

[Tasty]

If you have 6 Poke'mon, and go up against trainers that are levels 8-9, you aren't going to get much XP, since XP is shared, and you can only fight trainers once. Oops!

Except EXP scales depending on the level of the Pokemon. A level 4 Pokemon beating a level 9 will get more exp than another level 9 would. The game does this so you rotate your team and keep them within distance of eachother. You actually get far, far less EXP going up against trainers with a single Pokemon like me. But if you're training up a pack of Pokemon, the system makes it easy to catch the little guys up to the big ones.

Taking down Cheren's team of two (one 11 and one 13) is pretty easy with even three 7-10 Pokemon. Being lower level means you're actually supposed to GASP use strategy and not brute force things.

This ultimately doesn't matter, because kicking his ass is about effortless as taking a shit, but it's reasonable to note because it makes zero sense.

Everything you're saying makes zero sense.

Also stronger than normal enemies does not equate to double the level! More than that, in many rpgs, the boss is about one level above the average - sometimes even the same level - and yet still stronger.

Being "double the level" doesn't matter when we're talking 6 to 11. Instead of thinking it's "double," the difference is five levels, which is around standard for the rest of the game (well, 5 to 10.) Wild Pokemon are supposed to be weaker than trainer owned ones, and trainer ones are supposed to be weaker than gym leaders.

Fricking bosses, how do they work.

You're trying to enforce some arbitrary JRPG conventions on a series that has no use for them. Why are you getting so hung up on level numbers? As you yourself say, he was easy for you to beat (apparently, I have my suspicions.)

[Tasty]

Finally, your argument that Poke'mon ISN'T grindy when you're fighting level 7 mobs when the boss is level 13, is kind of falling on deaf ears! Any other rpg would have raised the average level of the enemies to levels 11 or 12. Poke'mon keeps it at 4-7. Keep living in denial land, Andrex! Even SMT isn't that annoying to keep your demons levels up!

I never said it wasn't grindy, just that you shouldn't be grinding at this point in the game. There's no reason to do it. If you said on GAF you grinded in a Pokemon game you'd be laughed all the way back to your pink tickle fort.

Your JRPG "knowledge" is hurting you. Ignore the level numbers, you're reading much more into them than you should be. They don't matter nearly as much as you believe them to.

[Himu]

Because level numbers MATTER. In the dark grass, on the way to the next city, dark grass contains more strong Poke'mon right? And yet all the Poke'mon I encountered in the dark grass are level 9! That's pathetic! Levels matter because levels mean higher difficulty. I went into the dark grass hoping I could fight harder Poke'mon and beef my party up, and all the Poke'mon I'm fighting are UNDER my level, and this is on the way to the next area in the supposedly "hard" path. In MOST rpgs, going to the next area brings new challenges, and new challenges means higher level; not only for you to gain new levels, but also to fight enemies with more expanded ability palette. A good level scaling is CRUCIAL to rpg design. This is not complaining because "wah wah this is hard" this is complaining because "wah wah this isn't hard enough and yet mindlessly grindy."

This is from the same guy who, when playing jrpgs, never grinds or runs away and fights every single battle. Saying,"this series has no use for genre conventions!" is a cop out and proves my idea that Poke'mon is pointlessly grindy to a fault.

[Himu]

Finally, your argument that Poke'mon ISN'T grindy when you're fighting level 7 mobs when the boss is level 13, is kind of falling on deaf ears! Any other rpg would have raised the average level of the enemies to levels 11 or 12. Poke'mon keeps it at 4-7. Keep living in denial land, Andrex! Even SMT isn't that annoying to keep your demons levels up!

I never said it wasn't grindy, just that you shouldn't be grinding at this point in the game. There's no reason to do it. If you said on GAF you grinded in a Pokemon game you'd be laughed all the way back to your pink tickle fort.

Your JRPG "knowledge" is hurting you. Ignore the level numbers, you're reading much more into them than you should be. They don't matter nearly as much as you believe them to.

Fine then! I haven't played a Poke'mon game in over a decade. So that knowledge is valuable to know!

[Tasty]

Because level numbers MATTER.

Levels don't really matter (if you're not in a hurry) unless they're greater than 5 or so, or you have a type disadvantage (in which case, you should switch, or actually use some strategy.)

In MOST rpgs blah blah blah

A good level scaling is CRUCIAL to rpg design. This is not complaining because "wah wah this is hard" this is complaining because "wah wah this isn't hard enough and yet mindlessly grindy."

Pokemon has great level scaling, but levels are secondary to type advantages. Always have been and always will be.

This is from the same guy who, when playing jrpgs, never grinds or runs away and fights every single battle. Saying,"this series has no use for genre conventions!" is a cop out and proves my idea that Poke'mon is pointlessly grindy to a fault.

Again, you shouldn't be grinding at this point, and a 2-3 level difference in favor of the gym leader is completely unremarkable. The game isn't forcing you to grind, you are out of some misplaced sense of "My Pokemon HAVE to be higher level!"

[Himu]

Do Poke'mon gain xp while in the pc?

[Tasty]

Do Poke'mon gain xp while in the pc?

No. They're literally frozen in time. They even get to keep Pokerus. Well, Pokerus' ability to infect other Pokemon. Pokerus itself is permanent...

[Joe Molotov]

Pokemon is SRS BSNS.

[Rusty Shackleford]

Pokemon is SRS BSNS.

You don't tug on Superman's cape
You don't spit into the wind
You don't pull the mask off that old Lone Ranger
And you don't mess around with Jim
_{or his Pokemon}

[bork]

himu, show me your pokemans

[EmCeeGrammar]

Jesus christ its a game for kids.  They design it so 6 year olds will want to play it and complete it.  The challenge is in the postgame or hell head over to smogon.com and try your hand at tryhard autistic competitive pokemon to see where the depth is.

[Tasty]

Alternatively, just play the game and have fun. Don't pay attention to level numbers or competitive crap. If you're getting beat down, change your strategy. If that doesn't work, yes, maybe grind a little.

After you beat the main game, then actually check out the hardcore stuff. Also, battle me.