Author Topic: Cruncheons 36: GOTY 2012, Wii U Impressions, PC talk, Indefensible! (Read 13643 times)

Eel O'Brian · « **on:** December 07, 2012, 04:46:15 PM »

Cruncheons 36: GOTY 2012, Wii U Impressions, PC talk, Indefensible!

http://cruncheons.podbean.com/mf/web/xu9g3w/Cruncheons36.mp3

It's the Game of the Year episode, where we each go through our picks for Best Game, Biggest Disappointment, and Worst Internet Reaction! Then, we follow with some Wii U discussion, PC talk, and the long-awaited return of Indefensible!

(03:45) GOTY discussion

(1:22:00) Wii U talk - hardware and game impressions

(1:52:45) Why you should consider building a low-cost gaming PC (no preaching)

(2:10:15) Indefensible!

Happy Holidays, everyone! We'll talk to you again soon!

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #1 on:** December 07, 2012, 04:47:23 PM »

First one in here too

Steve Contra · « **Reply #2 on:** December 07, 2012, 04:48:09 PM »

I figured WiiU and indefensible would be lumped into one segment for brevity's sake.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #3 on:** December 07, 2012, 04:48:40 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 07, 2012, 04:46:15 PM

(2:10:15) Indefensible!

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #4 on:** December 07, 2012, 04:51:30 PM »

Quote from: D3RANG3D on December 07, 2012, 04:47:23 PM

First one in here too

Quote from: Steve Contra on December 07, 2012, 04:48:09 PM

I figured WiiU and indefensible would be lumped into one segment for brevity's sake.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #5 on:** December 07, 2012, 05:14:47 PM »

i was a bit tipsy this ep

and robert throws one helluva curveball

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #6 on:** December 07, 2012, 05:26:21 PM »

I want to get this on my iPhone and listen to it while I go Christmas shopping and hate my life this weekend. How do I pod cast?

etiolate · « **Reply #7 on:** December 07, 2012, 05:26:56 PM »

lol @ diablo 3 being modern in design

they played it so safe and ignored advances in the genre

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #8 on:** December 07, 2012, 05:28:07 PM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on December 07, 2012, 05:26:21 PM

I want to get this on my iPhone and listen to it while I go Christmas shopping and hate my life this weekend. How do I pod cast?

it's on itunes

it might take an hour or so for it to show up there, i posted this thread right after i'd uploaded

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #9 on:** December 07, 2012, 05:36:19 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on December 07, 2012, 05:28:07 PM

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on December 07, 2012, 05:26:21 PM
I want to get this on my iPhone and listen to it while I go Christmas shopping and hate my life this weekend. How do I pod cast?

it's on itunes

it might take an hour or so for it to show up there, i posted this thread right after i'd uploaded

It's on iTunes now. I just downloaded it off of there.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #10 on:** December 07, 2012, 05:39:03 PM »

I think if you're subscribed it'll just automatically download it, but doesn't show on the itunes podcast page itself for a while

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #11 on:** December 07, 2012, 05:42:55 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on December 07, 2012, 05:26:56 PM

lol @ diablo 3 being modern in design

they played it so safe and ignored advances in the genre

Why don't you go play your stupid fucking rabbit creature and let people who appreciate real games talk about them, fuckstick

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #12 on:** December 07, 2012, 06:17:52 PM »

Quote from: etiolate on December 07, 2012, 05:26:56 PM

lol @ diablo 3 being modern in design

they played it so safe and ignored advances in the genre

what's not modern about it?

etiolate · « **Reply #13 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:11:02 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on December 07, 2012, 06:17:52 PM

Quote from: etiolate on December 07, 2012, 05:26:56 PM
lol @ diablo 3 being modern in design

they played it so safe and ignored advances in the genre

what's not modern about it?

The combat mostly, but some other missing features. What has kept me from D3, T2 and Path of Exile is that its still a lot of clicking the screen to repeat the same 2 or 3 attacks. They added some of the punchy physics of Titan Quest to the Diablo formula, but Titan Quest came out in 2006. Looking at the basic formula of dungeon crawling online coop sort of games or "loot" games, there's just far more interesting things being done with combat out there. Going from the physics and combat of Vindictus or even f2p junk like Dragon's Nest to D3 feels like a step back in time. Yeah, those aren't top down games, but I don't see why these games have to be top down. That feels like a real artificial limitation on the genre definition. Even if you go with that limitation, Magicka has way more interesting combat.

Beyond that, it's missing features like better inventory systems (Torchlight) and I want to say it could better use its online-only implementation.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #14 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:14:52 PM »

how about that mario and its assbackwards physics? wow, it'd be great if super stardust delta really modeled zero-gravity inertia! and burnout: paradise -- WHY U NO FORZA

while i suppose one could conflate "modern design" with an exponentially higher level of general purpose floating point calculations, i didn't figure YOU'D be the one making the argument

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #15 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:36:39 PM »

I thought modern meant fast and fluid. is diablo 3 fast and fluid?

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #16 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:39:51 PM »

Mass Effect 3 ending reaction was the one that was SHAMEOFTHEYEAR

etiolate · « **Reply #17 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:42:22 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on December 07, 2012, 07:14:52 PM

how about that mario and its assbackwards physics? wow, it'd be great if super stardust delta really modeled zero-gravity inertia! and burnout: paradise -- WHY U NO FORZA

while i suppose one could conflate "modern design" with an exponentially higher level of general purpose floating point calculations, i didn't figure YOU'D be the one making the argument

This reads like you don't understand what I said.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #18 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:44:13 PM »

well, the alternative is that you think hit stun effects are modern, and that would just be embarrassing

but really i'm not sure YOU read what you wrote, which is essentially bitching that DIABLO IS TOO DIABLO

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #19 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:48:09 PM »

to his credit at least hes not one of those T2 is better than D3 people, or those horrible sad PoE is the Promised land people

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #20 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:52:27 PM »

perhaps he might enjoy a game of R.A.W., it has FIZZIX

brob · « **Reply #21 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:53:46 PM »

diablo1 is da bess

the sequels are too ludonarratively dissonant

spoiler (click to show/hide)

spellcheck doesn't think ludonarrative is a word. damn you Roger Ebert this is serious.

[close]

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #22 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:53:50 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on December 07, 2012, 07:52:27 PM

perhaps he might enjoy a game of R.A.W., it has FIZZIX

Is the game trash? I saw it but I was like it's too much to gamble.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #23 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:55:17 PM »

Basically, like all of Etiolate's arguments it boils down to X is not Guild Wars. Not that hard to parse.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #24 on:** December 07, 2012, 07:55:50 PM »

I got my copy of RAW FOR FREE

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #25 on:** December 07, 2012, 08:24:27 PM »

"I regret...EVERYTHING" is my favorite bandit quote

hampster · « **Reply #26 on:** December 07, 2012, 08:37:13 PM »

Great episode so far. "You just aren't lonely enough!" comment about Journey got me good

Quote from: MrAngryFace on December 07, 2012, 07:39:51 PM

Mass Effect 3 ending reaction was the one that was SHAMEOFTHEYEAR

At least this had some funny moments. Maybe its just me but I thought all the dumb Marauder Shields comics and such were funny (haven't played ME3). Stuff like Tropes vs Women is just so... disgusting. All the terrible trolls hiding behind "concern" and other bullshit. Plus how in every kickstarter thread someone asks "hows that video series coming, haven't heard anything about that!" as if they didn't already know the answer

I'm glad Doug squeezed in a good rant at their expense

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #27 on:** December 07, 2012, 08:44:33 PM »

oh no, I loved marauder shields- im fine with people thinking the ending sucked- I hate the people who demanded CHANGE

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #28 on:** December 07, 2012, 08:46:25 PM »

complaining about a click fest dungeon crawler not being "modern enough" is like complaining about the peanut butter & jelly sandwich not evolving enough; why can't we WAKE UP and add cilantro to the recipe, to introduce such a tired lunch staple into the 21st century

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #29 on:** December 07, 2012, 10:17:02 PM »

good episode btw, thanks for makin it

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #30 on:** December 07, 2012, 10:17:47 PM »

i was drinkin' and pneumonia-ridden :-(

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #31 on:** December 07, 2012, 10:18:10 PM »

good news, ive been drinking too!

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #32 on:** December 07, 2012, 10:20:07 PM »

Quote from: Steve Contra on December 07, 2012, 07:55:17 PM

Basically, like all of Etiolate's arguments it boils down to X is not Guild Wars. Not that hard to parse.

That's why I gave it the thoughtful, well spoken reply from earlier

Momo · « **Reply #33 on:** December 08, 2012, 12:50:17 PM »

Diablo III is fun while it lasts, which unfortunately isnt that long.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #34 on:** December 08, 2012, 01:32:37 PM »

Quote from: Momo on December 08, 2012, 12:50:17 PM

Diablo III is fun while it lasts, which unfortunately isnt that long.

The whole point of Diablo III is getting to the higher difficulty levels and maxing out your characters, not getting to the "end."

Momo · « **Reply #35 on:** December 08, 2012, 01:41:00 PM »

I quickly lost interest when I got to the higher levels, thats the problem. I have however finished borderlands 2 eight times and have 4 level 50 chars and I am still playing it.

Momo · « **Reply #36 on:** December 08, 2012, 01:52:29 PM »

Teabagging in Diablo III

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #37 on:** December 08, 2012, 04:02:24 PM »

I got up to the Wii U impressions portion of the podcast but I have a question: how good are Sager laptops? I'm getting tired of lugging around a tower when I can just use a laptop instead to plug into my TV. I know Prole has mentioned owning one but I was just curious.

They go for a pretty penny (especially for what I'm going to put into it) but I'm not going to spend a good chunk of change on something that's gonna crap out in a couple of years.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #38 on:** December 08, 2012, 04:44:40 PM »

I've had two Sager laptops for gaming- love em lots. TVC currently uses my previous one- sold it to him. still great

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #39 on:** December 08, 2012, 04:53:37 PM »

Quote from: Momo on December 08, 2012, 01:41:00 PM

I quickly lost interest when I got to the higher levels, thats the problem. I have however finished borderlands 2 eight times and have 4 level 50 chars and I am still playing it.

I'll be the first to admit that the kind of game D3 is isn't for everyone; you have to have an almost slavish desire to min-max your character and find new loot. I haven't played BL2, but I imagine that it's a more traditionally "fun" kind of game. I am looking forward to playing it sometime in the next couple of weeks.

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #40 on:** December 08, 2012, 10:30:20 PM »

I'm waiting on the Wii U purchase until Bayonetta 2: Witch Please comes out.

(that really should be the subtitle, I'mma gonna tweet Kamiya about that one)

Trent Dole · « **Reply #41 on:** December 08, 2012, 10:35:33 PM »

Also the cover should be Bayo making this face

ferrarimanf355 · « **Reply #42 on:** December 08, 2012, 10:57:00 PM »

That would be the greatest thing ever until the next greatest thing ever comes out.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #43 on:** December 14, 2012, 07:55:00 AM »

Enjoyed this immensely, kept thinking Kevin was stoned since he was laughing all the time

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #44 on:** December 14, 2012, 07:59:35 AM »

I see episode 37 is up for subscribers on iTunes. It'll make the day go by easier.

Momo · « **Reply #45 on:** December 14, 2012, 10:36:07 AM »

Quote from: The Experiment on December 14, 2012, 07:59:35 AM

I see episode 37 is up for subscribers on iTunes. It'll make the day go by easier.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #46 on:** December 14, 2012, 11:00:13 AM »

wtf at Prole's gum story

D3RANG3D · « **Reply #47 on:** December 14, 2012, 11:04:01 AM »

New Cruncheons!

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #48 on:** December 14, 2012, 11:25:12 AM »

Quote from: The Experiment on December 14, 2012, 11:00:13 AM

wtf at Prole's gum story

Yeah, I thought I had the saddest holiday tale, involving me being a stupid little shit all the time. Not so!

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #49 on:** December 14, 2012, 11:44:16 AM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on December 14, 2012, 07:55:00 AM

Enjoyed this immensely, kept thinking Kevin was stoned since he was laughing all the time

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #50 on:** December 14, 2012, 11:45:42 AM »

http://www.thebore.com/forum/index.php?topic=39300.0

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