Author Topic: a thread for people to convince me to not buy a vita (Read 7758 times)

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #1 on:** January 01, 2013, 10:35:21 PM »

buy a vita

Himu · « **Reply #2 on:** January 01, 2013, 10:38:32 PM »

if you buy a vita i'll love you
if you don't buy a vita i'll hate you

treythemovie · « **Reply #3 on:** January 01, 2013, 10:40:13 PM »

Stores will soon be trying to give you one just to get it off of shelves?

demi · « **Reply #4 on:** January 01, 2013, 10:50:51 PM »

You have no responsibilities and nothing else to spend money on. Why wouldn't you?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #5 on:** January 01, 2013, 11:00:18 PM »

If you already don't play your PS3, then you're got the home version but with more choices of what not to play

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #6 on:** January 01, 2013, 11:38:45 PM »

buy a vita, lost causes are beautiful

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #7 on:** January 01, 2013, 11:42:30 PM »

are there lots of games you want on it? do you like PS1/PSP BC? Do ports sound good?

if yes, then get one. if no, then don't.

feckin' "convince me" threads man, i swear

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #8 on:** January 01, 2013, 11:45:48 PM »

well you see

i really want to play P4G.

and PSN+ looks like a good deal. bunch of free games.

we're looking at a maybe 62% i'll have a vita by the end of the week.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #9 on:** January 01, 2013, 11:53:19 PM »

P4G isn't a bad reason, even if it's just to play through it then sell the Vita.

PS+ for Vita is okay. Mutant Blobs is gone now, so is JSR. Chronovolt is in and it sucks. RCR is in-- meh game with pretty funny nostalgia-stroking writing. You still get Uncharted, Wipeout, and Gravity Rush. The thing is, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot they could put up for Vita, so I'm thinking the offerings won't get much better over the course of this year, unless like every game on the system goes up for free.

buuuut you get PS+ for PS3 also, which is where the value really comes in.

I think it's a tough sell on Vita games alone, but fuck do I have a ton of PSP and PS1 games on there to sweeten the deal. I hadn't bought many PSP games on PSN before and was surprised to see how cheap they are.

as for the system itself, definitely one of my favorite designs ever. it's the system everyone dreamed of when the PSP came out--dual analogs on the go with console quality graphics. just terribly timed though.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #10 on:** January 02, 2013, 12:01:12 AM »

If they really are going to do the -proper- rumoured relaunch in the March/April time frame then i'd expect them to either lop off a good $50, throw out some new colour machines, or , more likely, throw in some longer free PS+ time.

If you can hold off until then - it's likely going to be worth it.

If they announce nothing in the February Sony thing then you can start cremating this piggy (or, at the very least, hack the PSP side and play some emus - i was under impression this was some really hard tricky thing to do but it's easy. Why hallo thar, Revenge Of Shinobi...)

pilonv1 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 02, 2013, 12:05:05 AM »

$100 off here, new colours and 12mths PS+ free would be needed here to turn heads. Almost to the stage where you could buy two low end PS3's here for the price of a 3G Vita

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #12 on:** January 02, 2013, 12:17:19 AM »

i'd have thought the memory card + 1 year of PS+ might help but i don't think it will

it needs to be some sort of bundle -and- a price cut. But then what? I'm sure Nintendo will just lop off some more off the XL and they'll be back in "ah... still fucked"-ville

they need a proper relaunch to bring in "the masses" - big hitting names ASAP or it's all over. For maximum drama , a Monster Hunter game announcement would be hilarious, then something equally crazy like Diablo Vita for the west.

But yes - the reality is likely "Here is Soul Sacrifice again! And Gravity Daze 2!"

However, that's talking about the masses - the only other thing that is of slight concern is that , if this machine really is going down the tube and it's going to limp along for 2-3 years, then -unfortunately- Sony seem to have done a good job on the projection so it's secondary potential life as an amazingly solid emu/homebrew box looks unlikely too.

But hell, if you can find something worth playing - go for it.

cool breeze · « **Reply #13 on:** January 02, 2013, 12:24:11 AM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on January 01, 2013, 11:45:48 PM

well you see

i really want to play P4G.

and PSN+ looks like a good deal. bunch of free games.

we're looking at a maybe 62% i'll have a vita by the end of the week.

If you really want to play P4G and think that experience is worth losing whatever you'd gain by waiting*, then go ahead. If you didn't want to buy a Vita outside of P4G and are effectively treating it as if you're spending $300+ for a game and maybe some other stuff, then uh go ahead I guess maybe I dunno. If you have the money and think it'll make you happy, P4G is supposed to be nearly 100 hours long or something. That's a lot of time. $300+ is also a lot of money for some people (for a toy). Depends. Default response is "no" but there's an actual use and reason for purchase this time.

Is Golden that much better than Persona 4 on PS2 or something?

Know that you should've thought considered this a week or three ago when there were some good deal.!

*what, $50 price cut with included game and memory stick?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 02, 2013, 12:25:47 AM »

Quote from: DCharlieJP on January 02, 2013, 12:17:19 AM

i'd have thought the memory card + 1 year of PS+ might help but i don't think it will

it needs to be some sort of bundle -and- a price cut. But then what? I'm sure Nintendo will just lop off some more off the XL and they'll be back in "ah... still fucked"-ville

I would argue that prospective Vita buyers (all 7 of them) in the west aren't choosing between Vita and 3DS, they're choosing between Vita and tablets. I can get an iPad 2 here for the same price as a Vita + a game, and by the time I throw in a memory card it's getting close to iPad 4 pricing.

Ultimately I think you're right about it's future though.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #15 on:** January 02, 2013, 12:32:31 AM »

I guess i'm coming at it more from a JPN angle - i still think there's a slew of PSP owners who have yet to move but, as i say, once MH4 drops out here - if there's no sign of anything coming for Vita - then the chances of converting PSP owners to Vita owners is long gone.

That said - that's probably long gone anyways. PSP is the budget recession machine of forever. You can build a life long library on under a $100 - or , you know, just throw in a memory card and get the five-finger-discount on everything.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #16 on:** January 02, 2013, 05:14:40 AM »

I can't recommend the Vita with no PSP backlog. But if you're like me, someone with a big backlog and a PSP that shat the bed years ago, the Vita is a good deal. The budding Vita library and PS+ offers are a nice bonus. As long as you get a nice deal on the system and 32gb that is, but those aren't hard to come by these days.

archnemesis · « **Reply #17 on:** January 02, 2013, 05:27:39 AM »

Now that custom firmware is available there are no longer any valid reasons to not buy a Vita.

maxy · « **Reply #18 on:** January 02, 2013, 05:53:07 AM »

Quote from: DCharlieJP on January 02, 2013, 12:17:19 AM

i'd have thought the memory card + 1 year of PS+ might help but i don't think it will

it needs to be some sort of bundle -and- a price cut. But then what? I'm sure Nintendo will just lop off some more off the XL and they'll be back in "ah... still fucked"-ville

they need a proper relaunch to bring in "the masses" - big hitting names ASAP or it's all over. For maximum drama , a Monster Hunter game announcement would be hilarious, then something equally crazy like Diablo Vita for the west.

But yes - the reality is likely "Here is Soul Sacrifice again! And Gravity Daze 2!"

However, that's talking about the masses - the only other thing that is of slight concern is that , if this machine really is going down the tube and it's going to limp along for 2-3 years, then -unfortunately- Sony seem to have done a good job on the projection so it's secondary potential life as an amazingly solid emu/homebrew box looks unlikely too.

But hell, if you can find something worth playing - go for it.

Maybe Sony will use it as PS4 controller.

There is some talk about PS4 controller surprise,heard anything?

archnemesis · « **Reply #19 on:** January 02, 2013, 06:04:07 AM »

I really hope not. Even though the controls are great for a handheld system they're nowhere close as good as a DualShock 3. It's very easy to accidentally move the analog sticks while using the d-pad or the face buttons. Also, the shoulder buttons are a bit flimsy.

maxy · « **Reply #20 on:** January 02, 2013, 06:17:11 AM »

I was thinking about redesigned Vita,of course.

I don't think Sony plans to piss off COD userbase.

archnemesis · « **Reply #21 on:** January 02, 2013, 06:23:52 AM »

That'd be fine I guess. I still don't get the benefit of using a tablet for a home console, but then again I haven't played ZombiU or any of the other titles taking advantage of the feature. Maybe I should unwrap Nintendo Land.

Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #22 on:** January 02, 2013, 07:21:39 AM »

Not sure how it could work as a PS4 controller unless they're willing to ditch L2/R2, L3/R3, and integrate the back touchpad. Doesn't seem likely.

The only thing I can see working is if Sony really pushes cross play between the PS4 and Vita as a response to the Xbox Surface (or whatever they call it) and the Wii U gamepad. I don't know, we'll have to see. I'm not an industry insider or anything but I find it hard to believe that Sony won't start phasing the Vita out throughout 2013 to focus entirely on the PS4. It's past the point of revival and I'm not even sure bringing back Monster Hunter would revitalize it. It's a whole new world out there now.

However, there are so many good PS1/PSP/PSV games for it that I don't think you could get bored with it for the next couple of years. I guess to me is if I can generate $1/hour worth of entertainment from it when it is all said and done, I think it would be worth it. So as long as I play my Vita for over 180 hours, it wasn't a waste of my money after all.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #23 on:** January 02, 2013, 07:48:58 AM »

Quote from: DCharlieJP on January 02, 2013, 12:01:12 AM

If they announce nothing in the February Sony thing then you can start cremating this piggy (or, at the very least, hack the PSP side and play some emus - i was under impression this was some really hard tricky thing to do but it's easy. Why hallo thar, Revenge Of Shinobi...)

hey, I need the details on this. What are the implications for someone who doesn't want their PSN account banned and would eventually like to get back to OFW? I will gladly hack the thing for a minute to play BBS.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #24 on:** January 02, 2013, 08:26:05 AM »

Quote from: archnemesis on January 02, 2013, 05:27:39 AM

Now that custom firmware is available there are no longer any valid reasons to not buy a Vita.

Wait, what? Tell me more.

archnemesis · « **Reply #25 on:** January 02, 2013, 09:03:58 AM »

I still have plenty of other games to play so I haven't looked into custom firmware myself, but someone posted this image on WYL yesterday. Birth by Sleep is one of the few popular PSP games that aren't available on PSN.

Once I'm done with Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Virtue's Last Reward I might give it a try.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #26 on:** January 02, 2013, 09:10:11 AM »

Vita is the best handheld ever made tech wise, and prob will go down as the greatest handheld ever made since handhelds are dead.

If you like the games it has buy it and enjoy it, just dont expect too much from future support I think.

When I first played it I was like omg its so sexy omg.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #27 on:** January 02, 2013, 09:15:38 AM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on January 02, 2013, 08:26:05 AM

Quote from: archnemesis on January 02, 2013, 05:27:39 AM
Now that custom firmware is available there are no longer any valid reasons to not buy a Vita.

Wait, what? Tell me more.

it's not actual Vita CFW. it's PSP soft mod features running under the PSP emulator.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #28 on:** January 02, 2013, 09:18:08 AM »

Quote from: archnemesis on January 02, 2013, 09:03:58 AM

I still have plenty of other games to play so I haven't looked into custom firmware myself, but someone posted this image on WYL yesterday. Birth by Sleep is one of the few popular PSP games that aren't available on PSN.

(Image removed from quote.)

Once I'm done with Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Virtue's Last Reward I might give it a try.

This is shocling news!! People are still posting things on WYL?

archnemesis · « **Reply #29 on:** January 02, 2013, 09:20:23 AM »

Well, only occasionally. It's pretty quiet most days.

Even though it's only a soft mod, wouldn't the added horse powers make emulation of other systems easier? I'm still waiting for a near perfect SNES emulator on a handheld.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #30 on:** January 02, 2013, 09:32:03 AM »

I don't think so...I think it's limited to PSP specs somehow.

archnemesis · « **Reply #31 on:** January 02, 2013, 09:38:11 AM »

Well, that sucks. I already have a PSP-3000 with CFW and the second analog stick isn't worth jumping through hoops for.

bork · « **Reply #32 on:** January 02, 2013, 10:06:38 AM »

No point in bothering with the PSP emulation stuff if you still have a CFW PSP sitting around.

fistful, look at the Vita games that are out. Does enough of the software interest you? Get one if so.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #33 on:** January 03, 2013, 04:28:44 PM »

WHO'S GOT TWO THUMBS AND IS A DUMB MOTHERFUCKER??

THIS GUY!

Himu · « **Reply #34 on:** January 03, 2013, 04:30:42 PM »

Quote from: archnemesis on January 02, 2013, 09:03:58 AM

I still have plenty of other games to play so I haven't looked into custom firmware myself, but someone posted this image on WYL yesterday. Birth by Sleep is one of the few popular PSP games that aren't available on PSN.

(Image removed from quote.)

Once I'm done with Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Virtue's Last Reward I might give it a try.

how is this possible

Tasty · « **Reply #35 on:** January 03, 2013, 04:30:53 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on January 01, 2013, 11:38:45 PM

buy a vita, lost causes are beautiful

Just like me right Drinky sama.

archnemesis · « **Reply #36 on:** January 03, 2013, 04:36:09 PM »

Congratulations fistful!

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #37 on:** January 03, 2013, 05:05:54 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 03, 2013, 04:30:42 PM

Quote from: archnemesis on January 02, 2013, 09:03:58 AM
I still have plenty of other games to play so I haven't looked into custom firmware myself, but someone posted this image on WYL yesterday. Birth by Sleep is one of the few popular PSP games that aren't available on PSN.

(Image removed from quote.)

Once I'm done with Uncharted: Golden Abyss and Virtue's Last Reward I might give it a try.

how is this possible

the new Uno exploit, allows PSP CFW features. I was thinking about trying it, but I've got too much to risk on my psn account.

i'll have to wait for BBS HD.

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on January 03, 2013, 04:28:44 PM

WHO'S GOT TWO THUMBS AND IS A DUMB MOTHERFUCKER??

THIS GUY!

good deal. what'd you buy with it?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #38 on:** January 03, 2013, 06:33:54 PM »

just persona 4

Himu · « **Reply #39 on:** January 03, 2013, 06:36:08 PM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 01, 2013, 10:38:32 PM

if you buy a vita i'll love you
if you don't buy a vita i'll hate you

fistful wishes to give my love back

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #40 on:** January 03, 2013, 08:18:32 PM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on January 03, 2013, 06:33:54 PM

just persona 4

Virtue's Last Reward is good if you don't already have it on 3DS.

Huff · « **Reply #41 on:** January 03, 2013, 08:21:42 PM »

Joe how long did vlr take you to get the best ending?

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #42 on:** January 03, 2013, 09:07:41 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 03, 2013, 08:18:32 PM

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on January 03, 2013, 06:33:54 PM
just persona 4

Virtue's Last Reward is good if you don't already have it on 3DS.

isnt that a sequel to 999?

also I dont own a 3ds

hampster · « **Reply #43 on:** January 03, 2013, 10:12:37 PM »

Don't buy a Vita if you aren't prepared to buy the 32gig card. Memory management is such a pain

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #44 on:** January 03, 2013, 10:48:13 PM »

Quote from: Huff on January 03, 2013, 08:21:42 PM

Joe how long did vlr take you to get the best ending?

~30 hours

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #45 on:** January 03, 2013, 11:31:55 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 03, 2013, 10:48:13 PM

Quote from: Huff on January 03, 2013, 08:21:42 PM
Joe how long did vlr take you to get the best ending?

~30 hours

whoa, that's a long ass game.

i didn't like the "puzzle" in the demo, but i somehow ended up buying the game. I am a sucker for that kind of story. See also: Gantz. but if it has a Gantz-like ending, i'll shit on my vita.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #46 on:** January 03, 2013, 11:36:57 PM »

Well, the good news is the puzzle room in the demo was one of the worst ones.

Also I've never seen Gantz, but the end of VLR is pretty amazing, in an anime way.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #47 on:** January 03, 2013, 11:40:37 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on January 03, 2013, 11:36:57 PM

Well, the good news is the puzzle room in the demo was one of the worst ones.

Also I've never seen Gantz, but the end of VLR is pretty amazing, in an anime way.

Gantz has the same premise-- a bunch of people end up in a room mysteriously, don't know why, there's a mysterious person controlling it. Except instead of puzzles, they have to kill shit before it kills them.

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #48 on:** January 04, 2013, 05:51:41 PM »

go to start P4G says i need a memory card

wtf? this has no internal memory at all? WTF

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #49 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:02:06 PM »

I'VE SPENT SO MUCH MIGHT AS WELL GO ALL IN.

cool breeze · « **Reply #50 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:11:33 PM »

there's a lot of headache dealing with memory cards. like, if you have playstation plus, uncharted will take up most of 4 gig (smallest and cheapest card at $20). and since it's proprietary, the cards are expensive ($100 for 32 gigs). plus game saves are contained within the games, meaning if you delete the large uncharted file, you'll delete your saves as well. so, if you have a PC or PS3, you'll need to be backing up you stuff and deal with memory management. it's a whole lot of bullshit.

that's really the one sour point of the vita hardware. though, if you have playstation plus, theoretically you can upload saves to the cloud and delete the data on the unit. I haven't tried that myself.

Huff · « **Reply #51 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:17:58 PM »

Cloud saves work perfectly. Allows me to get by with only a 16 gig. Only problem is download speeds, but as long as I plan ahead or delete games when I'm done, it hasn't been a big deal

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #52 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:22:54 PM »

Get a 32 GB card. #yolo

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #53 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:23:11 PM »

its almost as if they designed it to be shitty so PSN+ would be a pretty good idea.

i just bought an 8gig. will be here tomorrow. so is there anything i can do with this thing in the mean time?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #54 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:24:26 PM »

Web browse (maybe).

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #55 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:24:55 PM »

great

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #56 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:28:18 PM »

Hello

Posting from my Playstation Vita

Huff · « **Reply #57 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:28:37 PM »

Some early games maybe not need a memory card. Maybe

fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #58 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:36:18 PM »

dont help me none since i only own P4G

can I atleast do the AR card stuff?

cool breeze · « **Reply #59 on:** January 04, 2013, 06:38:17 PM »

if you have a PS3, you can do remote play stuff. off the top of my head:

new vita remote play: god of war hd collection, tokyo jungle, shadow of the colossus hd + ico HD
old psp remote play workable on vita: ps1 games, bionic commando rearmed, lair

News:

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