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In the immortal words of Trick Daddy, take it to da house
It's Boner time!
@LukeRussert 6m#GOP aide tells me Obama's victory speech might delay procedural motion to get bill to House flr, some members POed. It'll still pass
@chucktodd 1mHouse GOPers not happy POTUS didn't wait to speak until after they voted. They consider it a "respect" issue.
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Language in a draft of the McConnell-Reid deal (see page 13, section 123) provided to WFPL News shows a provision that increases funding for the massive Olmsted Dam Lock in Paducah, Ky., from $775 million to nearly $2.9 billion....Asked about the additional funding in the proposal, McConnell spokesman Robert Steurer directed all questions to lawmakers who worked on the bill directly."Senators (Diane) Feinstein and (Lamar) Alexander, the chair and ranking member of the energy and water subcommittee, worked on the issue and can help you," he says.Since 2009, McConnell has been an outspoken supporter of the project, and has been working on getting its funding for some time.
redarrowhead2 5 days agoShe's just another childless democratic bitch.
http://nation.foxnews.com/2013/10/16/todd-starnes-american-taxpayers-betrayed-chicken-hearted-rinos
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/mccain-responds-to-gohmert-attacking-him-its-not-malice-if-someone-has-no-intelligence/McCain with that ether
"I'm more upset with my Republican conference, to be honest with you. It's been Republicans here who apparently always want to fight, but they want to fight the next fight, that have given Speaker Boehner the inability to be successful in this fight," Rep. Raul Labrador (R-ID) told reporters Wednesday. "So if anybody should be kicked out, it's probably those Republicans... who are unwilling to keep the promises they made to the American people. Those are the people who should be looking behind their back."
"I think we're going to see a drumbeat out there that our spineless leaders caved," Norm Ornstein, resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, told TPM. "If we had held on, we would of defaulted, but it wouldn't have made any difference. Obama would have caved, and we would have gotten what we wanted."
"We've been talking amongst this group for the last four weeks about fairness. ... That is a winning argument for us," Rep. Mick Mulvaney (R-SC) told reporters. "Somebody asked whether it would be different next time, in January or February, whenever we take this up again. The natural inclination is to say 'No, it will be exactly the same. But if we can figure out a way to drive that message home, that this is about fairness ... then the outcome may well be different."
"The party itself was very, very divided during the midst of this," Salmon said. "I think that if we were a lot more unified and carrying one message we would have been a lot more successful."
TPM asked Rep. Peter King (R-NY), one of the more outspoken critics of the shutdown, if conservatives have learned their lesson. He paused, then laughed, then said: "Uh, I don't know. Hope springs eternal. I don't know."
“I’ll vote against it,” Fleming said, as quoted by the New York Times. “But that will get us into Round 2. See, we’re going to start this all over again.”
Yeah, wasn't my friend. The only conservative/libertarianish friends I have left on the ol' faceplace are of the meek, silently vote their preference and ignore my crazy ass shit variety, because the other types just can't deal with me.
Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on October 17, 2013, 12:15:21 AMYeah, wasn't my friend. The only conservative/libertarianish friends I have left on the ol' faceplace are of the meek, silently vote their preference and ignore my crazy ass shit variety, because the other types just can't deal with me.It was my friend. Outside of politics he's about the nicest guy in the world. Plus he's served like 5 tours in Afghanistan and been through some pretty gnarly shit so I give him a pass.
Oh no, he likes to argue so I generally bait him (and other friends do as well) but it just doesn't carry over into our other interactions. the only person I no longer argue with is the libertarian who believes in no government spending except to pour whatever resources we can into Israel/war with Israel's enemies.
There's a petition floating around I've seen posted on Facebook to charge the House GOP with sedition
Quote from: Spencer on October 17, 2013, 03:06:06 PMThere's a petition floating around I've seen posted on Facebook to charge the House GOP with sedition Was it started by Democrats or Republicans?
I don't have a facebook account so I won't even imagine what sort of hell it would be to argue with people over it. It's bad enough arguing with idiots in person. Extending that to something like a facebook wall seems like a form of torture. I will say I think arguing with people is getting more pointless than its ever been because everybody is so deadset in their viewpoint more than at any other time in my life. Oddly I blame it on the rise of so much media which is a double edged sword. It was always a case when you use to argue with people that they were a product of their parents and whatever views they passed on. Which could be bad but at least it seemed like more people were reasonable to a degree. Now when you argue with people you are arguing through a filter of the 24/7 group think media source bubble they wrap themselves up in. I was talking to some 17 year old kid irl a while back and it was amazing. He was a product of Fox News from the cradle and he was just as you imagine a young person would be who has been totally fed an ideology from the moment he could form a thought. It's only going to get worse. I can't imagine how it will be in 20 years.
Spoiler: He was wrong!
So to pull all this logic together, God anoints priests to work in the church directly and kings to go out into the marketplace to conquer, plunder, and bring back the spoils to the church. The reason governmental regulation has to disappear from the marketplace is to make it completely available to the plunder of Christian "kings" who will accomplish the "end time transfer of wealth." Then "God's bankers" will usher in the "coming of the messiah." The government is being shut down so that God's bankers can bring Jesus back. And here's the thing. When you get a lot of people together in a megachurch, you can do some pretty impressive things with your mission projects. You can feed thousands of people and host ESL classes and job training programs and medical clinics. And I imagine that seeing your accomplishments could give you the hubris of thinking we don't need a government at all to make our society run; our church can be the new government.
Anatomy of a shutdownHouse Speaker John Boehner just wanted to sneak out of the White House for a smoke.But President Barack Obama pulled him aside for a grilling. Obama wanted to know why they were in the second day of a government shutdown that the speaker had repeatedly and publicly pledged to avoid.“John, what happened?” Obama asked, according to people briefed on the Oct. 2 conversation.“I got overrun, that’s what happened,” Boehner said.
