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[Human Snorenado]

I finally found some respected pundits who ably sum up my opinion on the whole Bundy situation in less than 30 seconds!

[Great Rumbler]

I can't wait to hear Bundy's thoughts on the gays and the A-rabs.

[Joe Molotov]

It should be pretty clear what he's doing here, or what he was told to do. Harry Reid got in some trouble a few years ago for saying Obama didn't use a "Negro dialect" and didn't receive much of any pushback from the media or democrats. The GOP has decided attacking Reid is an allegedly good way to build base momentum. The inevitable denouncements that occur now will spur Bundy, Fox, and republicans to point out no such outrage occurred on the left when Reid used the same word.

Nevermind that Bundy went overboard into blatant racial rhetoric; the problem isn't saying "Negro" it's what comes afterwards. If we had a decent media it would be very easy to step over this trap and simply ask Bundey supporters if they believe blacks are better off now than they were as slaves. Yes or no question.

I guarantee you Fox, right wing media, and certain GAF posters will bring up Reid today.

That seems like a lot of work for a little bit. Can't they just say that Harry Reid knew about Benghazi or something?

[Great Rumbler]

FoxNews.com scrubbed every mention of Bundy on the front page.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://danaloeschradio.com/cliven-bundys-remark/

called it

[Great Rumbler]

Secondly, I hope no one is surprised that an old man rancher isn’t media trained to express himself perfectly.

[benjipwns]

Look, if you find out anything about a person or situation you've wasted time when you could be the first one out there taking an uncompromising moral stand on TV.

[Oblivion]

Here's homeboy's "clarified remarks":

I'm wondering if they're better off under a government subsidy and their young women are having the abortions and their young men are in jail and their older women and children are sitting out on the cement porch without nothing to do.

I'm wondering: Are they happier now under this government subsidy system than they were when they were when they were slaves and they was able to their family structure together and the chickens and the garden and the people have something to do?

So in my mind, are they better off being slaves in that sense or better off being slaves to the United States government in the sense of the subsidy? I'm wondering. The statement was right. I am wondering.

Dis nicca

[Steve Contra]

That dude just wants to own people.

[Brehvolution]

He'd be better off owning more land.

[Steve Contra]

You need people to work the land, and how you going to pay them if you can't even afford grazing fees?

[Joe Molotov]

He was just wondering, brehs.

[Phoenix Dark]

Nothing says slavery like the government buying your grits. For dinner.

[Great Rumbler]

After skipping the chance to denounce Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy's slavery remarks earlier Thursday, Texas Gov. Rick Perry's (R) office made clear later in the day that the governor found the comments "reprehensible."

During a morning interview on CBS, Perry had said that Bundy was "a side issue" in the larger debate about government overreach, saying that he hadn't seen Bundy's statements. But Perry spokesman Felix Browne elaborated on the governor's thinking later Thursday after he had read the interview.

"He hadn’t yet read them at the time at the time of the interview," Browne told Business Insider. "He has now had a chance to read Bundy’s comments and he thinks they are reprehensible and disagrees with them in the strongest possible way."

Conservative media titan Sean Hannity, formerly one of Nevada rancher Clive Bundy's strongest advocates, expressed his vehement disgust Thursday with the latter's remarks on slavery

Bundy's comments "are beyond repugnant to me. They are beyond despicable to me. They are beyond ignorant to me," Hannity said during his radio show.

He then turned his anger toward Democrats who would use Bundy's comments to attack conservatives.

"They want to say that conservatives are racist. Conservatives hate women," Hannity said. "Conservatives want old people to die, granny over the cliff. They want the young people to fend for themselves. They want to poison the air and poison the water."

"People that for the right reasons saw this case as government overreach now are branded because of the ignorant, racist, repugnant, despicable comments of Cliven Bundy," he said.

After playing a clip of Bundy trying to clarify what he meant, Hannity said: "Just turn it off. I don't want to hear it anymore. It's obnoxious, ignorant."

[Mandark]

Health care in the UK is like primary education in the US.  The government provides tax-funded services to everyone who wants to take advantage of it, but there are private sector insurers there just like there are private schools here.

[Phoenix Dark]

Health care in the UK is like primary education in the US.  The government provides tax-funded services to everyone who wants to take advantage of it, but there are private sector insurers there just like there are private schools here.

Is there integrated busing between hospitals, and can Roma sit in the front?

[Joe Molotov]

I can't believe Hannity is falling for this lamestream media distraction instead of focusing on the real story, Obama's tyrannical Land Management Bureau and where we need to position the womenfolk when we march to war against them.

And also BENGHAZI.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article/20140424/BLOGS04/140429924

Gov. Andrew Cuomo says that any possible interference by his administration into the operations of the recently disbanded Moreland Commission would not be subject to investigation.

In an interview Wednesday with the Crain’s editorial board, Mr. Cuomo responded to recent comments by Southern District U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara that he would take “very, very seriously any suggestion” that Mr. Cuomo’s office interfered with the Moreland Commission, which Mr. Cuomo empaneled in 2013 to investigate corruption in the state Legislature. Mr. Bharara declined to rule out investigating whether Mr. Cuomo’s office had sought to influence the commission.

But Mr. Cuomo told Crain’s that because he formed the Moreland Commission himself, his administration would have the legal leeway to be involved in its affairs.

“It’s not a legal question. The Moreland Commission was my commission,” Mr. Cuomo explained. “It’s my commission. My subpoena power, my Moreland Commission. I can appoint it, I can disband it. I appoint you, I can un-appoint you tomorrow.

"So, interference? It’s my commission. I can’t 'interfere' with it, because it is mine. It is controlled by me.”

Looks like they successfully located the corruption. 

[Great Rumbler]

"Where is our colored brother? Where is our Mexican brother? Where is our Chinese -- where are they?" Bundy said. "They're just as much American as we are, and they're not with us. If they're not with us, they're going to be against us."

Bundy noted that he "hardly ever" saw a black person until he was a teenager, and was surrounded by only white people during the press conference he was holding, according to the Post.

He then launched into a story about when he was working in Los Angeles during the Watts Riots in 1965.

"About two blocks south of Harbor Freeway, they were setting the world on fire," he said. "And who was setting it on fire? It wasn't We the People. It was the Negro groups -- people theirself were setting their own city on fire and raping their own city and stealing from their own city."

Bundy argued that the riots were a result of people lacking freedom, according to the Post.

[benjipwns]

http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/23/health/veterans-dying-health-care-delays/

(CNN) -- At least 40 U.S. veterans died waiting for appointments at the Phoenix Veterans Affairs Health Care system, many of whom were placed on a secret waiting list.

The secret list was part of an elaborate scheme designed by Veterans Affairs managers in Phoenix who were trying to hide that 1,400 to 1,600 sick veterans were forced to wait months to see a doctor, according to a recently retired top VA doctor and several high-level sources.

For six months, CNN has been reporting on extended delays in health care appointments suffered by veterans across the country and who died while waiting for appointments and care. But the new revelations about the Phoenix VA are perhaps the most disturbing and striking to come to light thus far.

Internal e-mails obtained by CNN show that top management at the VA hospital in Arizona knew about the practice and even defended it.

Dr. Sam Foote just retired after spending 24 years with the VA system in Phoenix. The veteran doctor told CNN in an exclusive interview that the Phoenix VA works off two lists for patient appointments:

There's an "official" list that's shared with officials in Washington and shows the VA has been providing timely appointments, which Foote calls a sham list. And then there's the real list that's hidden from outsiders, where wait times can last more than a year.

...

According to Foote, the elaborate scheme in Phoenix involved shredding evidence to hide the long list of veterans waiting for appointments and care. Officials at the VA, Foote says, instructed their staff to not actually make doctor's appointments for veterans within the computer system.

Instead, Foote says, when a veteran comes in seeking an appointment, "they enter information into the computer and do a screen capture hard copy printout. They then do not save what was put into the computer so there's no record that you were ever here," he said.

According to Foote, the information was gathered on the secret electronic list and then the information that would show when veterans first began waiting for an appointment was actually destroyed.

"That hard copy, if you will, that has the patient demographic information is then taken and placed onto a secret electronic waiting list, and then the data that is on that paper is shredded," Foote said.

"So the only record that you have ever been there requesting care was on that secret list," he said. "And they wouldn't take you off that secret list until you had an appointment time that was less than 14 days so it would give the appearance that they were improving greatly the waiting times, when in fact they were not."

"I feel very sorry for the people who work at the Phoenix VA," said Foote. "They're all frustrated. They're all upset. They all wish they could leave 'cause they know what they're doing is wrong.

"But they have families, they have mortgages and if they speak out or say anything to anybody about it, they will be fired and they know that."

Another market failure. 

[benjipwns]

The issue is that they ascribe sinister (and incorrect) motivations to the people who support those policies. For instance, I want universal healthcare because I think it would significantly improve the quality of life of many Americans, not because I want to see the government control every aspect of people's lives. I'd consider that a pretty important distinction.

I don't think the totalitarian left has sinister motives but I do think there is a bit of a curious fascination with "control" because of a belief system that orbits around the idea that periodic mass elections place "control" in "our hands" and hold the state accountable in some magical way.

[Mandark]

magical

 

[Phoenix Dark]

the motive often boils down to giving people something to ensure they vote for you, or give you money.

[Great Rumbler]

I know there's that one quote from the LBJ administration that gets tossed around.

That may or may not actually be real, and probably isn't.

[Phoenix Dark]

LBJ was a traditional southern politician who brought infrastructure projects and other spending to his district; there's a story about him getting his town wired with electricity before surrounding towns. As a senator he brought big projects to Texas, and as president he traded projects for votes. If that quote is fabricated it's probably not far off from what he and most politicians believed at the time.

Tax cuts, infrastructure/union jobs, faith based organization grants, green energy loans. They all help somebody, and sometimes the rest of the country.

[Human Snorenado]

BAH GAWD, YOU TELL ME WHICH COMMIE LOVIN LIBRUL MEDIA FLAPPIN HEAD SAID THIS NONSENSE ABOUT AMURRICAN PATRIOT CLIVEN BUNDY! YOU TELL ME NOW!

I agree entirely with Chuck. First of all it isn’t enough to say I don’t agree with what he said. This is a despicable statement. It’s not the statement, you have to disassociate yourself entirely from the man. It’s not like the words exist here and the man exists here. And why conservatives, or some conservatives end up in bed with people who, you know, he makes an anti-government statement, he takes an anti-government stand, he wears a nice big hat and he rides a horse, and all of a sudden he is a champion of democracy. This is a man who said that he doesn’t recognize the authority of the United States of America. That makes him a patriot? I love this country, I love the Constitution, and it is the Constitution that established a government that all of us have to recognize. And for him to reject it was the beginning of all of this. And now what he said today is just the end of this.

And I think it is truly appalling that, as Chuck says, there are times when somehow simply because somebody takes an oppositionist stand, he becomes a conservative hero. You got to wait, you got to watch, you got to think about it. And look, do I have the right to go in to graze sheep in Central Park? I think not. You have to have some respect for the federal government, some respect for our system. And to say you don’t and you don’t recognize it and that makes you a conservative hero, to me, is completely contradictory, and rather appalling. And he has now proved it.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/04/24/foxs-krauthammer-blasts-conservatives-for-their/199022

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[Great Rumbler]

Krauthammer felt so strongly that Bundy was in the wrong on this issue that he waited until after it was revealed that he was also a total racist scumbag to say anything.

[benjipwns]

Awesome. Hopefully more libertarians jump on this wagon and stop running for public offices (Image removed from quote.)

How would you tell?

[benjipwns]

That reminds me that I thought The Onion should have done a "Florida signs up Pat Buchanan for health insurance one hundred thousand times" report on healthcare.gov.

[benjipwns]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/04/25/cnn_anchor_to_bundy_how_does_it_feel_to_be_abandoned_by_your_friends_on_fox.html

BILL WEIR, CNN: How does it feel to be abandoned by your friends on FOX? I mean, the only reason we could get you on tonight is because, I'm guessing, they didn't call.

CLIVEN BUNDY: I don't think that I've been abandoned. I think that maybe they misunderstood me a little bit. But I think FOX and I, and Hannity and I, are just right on. And I have no doubt that he would support me if he understood what's really in my heart, and I think he does understand me. I don't think there is a question there.

WEIR: Well, he called you ignorant, racist, repugnant and despicable.

BUNDY: Well, I hope I'm not that way. I tell you what, I'm not.

[Oblivion]

I said goddamn!    That dude didn't pull any punches.

Also, thread title should be renamed to Bundyghazi.


edit: that smile the host did at the end.

[Oblivion]

You know, I'm really glad that Cliven Bundy's fifteen minutes of fame are over, but I can't help but be disappointed over the reason that caused his conservative fanboys in the media to head for the hills. The man broke the law and lived like a moocher for twenty years, and when he was about to be punished for his transgressions, he decided he was going to KILL federal agents! And yet, few on the Right had any issue with that, and in fact, some (such as Sean Hannity) were actively encouraging this senile pinhead to make things a tad more interesting.

No, what ended up doing Bundy in wasn't his threats to commit a blatant act of sedition, but rather his horrendously racist remarks regarding the blahs. Of course those comments were idiotic and offensive, but what Bundy was doing before actually involved the possibility of multiple people actually getting KILLED.

When it comes to U.S. politics, I always feel like our priorities are almost always out of order.

[Great Rumbler]

"Maybe I sinned and maybe I need to ask forgiveness … but you know when you talk about prejudice, we're talking about not being able to exercise what we think and are feeling," Bundy eventually conceded.

"If I say 'negro' or 'black boy' or 'slave,' I'm not -- if those people cannot take those kind of words and not be offensive then Martin Luther King didn't do his job," he added.

[Brehvolution]

I just finished watching that. Excellent piece.

[helios]

I met a sovereign citizen at work before. Utterly crazy. Luckily, he was more on the peaceful end on the spectrum.

Most of them are like this

[Phoenix Dark]

The last Maddow takedown I watched was her ridiculous Christie nonsense but this Bundy thing was well done.

Apparently Fox didn't do any segments for Bundy yesterday. They knew exactly what they were doing, and it was blatant incitement.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm pretty sure that's @Hiphoplives4eva
 

[tiesto]

Saw this shared on a friend's FB:

Please make viral.

The media distorts information to the point of social division. This is a photo of myself and the resilient, often charismatic, and maybe not so tactful Cliven Bundy. He's a cowboy and a helluva family man, not an orator. One thing he definitely isn't - a racist. I found his comments to not only be NOT racist, but his own view of his experiences. Who the heck are we to determine another man's perspective on the world around him?! Just because Picasso's view of the world was abstract, does it negate the fact that his art was genuine? Furthermore, if you take the time to do your own research, you'll find that his statements about some black Americans actually hold weight. He posed a hypothetical question. He said, "I wonder IF" ... Hell, I'm black and I often wonder about the same about the decline of the black family. Bottom line is that we are all slaves in this waning republic, no matter our skin color. Mr. Bundy could have used any racial demographic as an example: Native Americans on reservations, whites in trailer parks, etc. He noticed the crippling effects of receiving government "assistance" and the long term result of accepting handouts. It's not progress at all. I challenge Sean Hannity, Rand Paul, and others to read my comment and reconsider their position in this matter. Individual liberties are at stake here, yours and mine. THAT is the issue. Don't let the liberal media and ignoramuses like Glenn Beck and that weasel Harry Reid make you lose sight of the real issue here: The federal government is a burgeoning behemoth and a bully on a once constitutional playground.

I sincerely hope you real patriots out there who can see through the smoke.

Semper Fidelis

[Joe Molotov]

Saw this shared on a friend's FB:

Please make viral.

You should respond with:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/all-you-c00ns-caping-for-cliven-bundy-get-in-here-right-now.208647/

[benjipwns]

lol at all the liberals who were claiming this guy was racist, looks like that's been DEBUNKED

[Rufus]

His thumb looks sceptic about the whole thing.

[Joe Molotov]

His thumb looks sceptic about the whole thing.

I'll have to check my Marine Corp manual, but I think he's giving the "I'm being held against my will" sign.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/bundy-ranch-uncensored?click=feed



LAWD HAVE MERCY

[Great Rumbler]

"Is there really a black man in the house?” A lone “whoo” goes up from the folding chairs. "You’re with the media, right?” The cameraman nods, and the singer returns his focus to the folding chairs. “So, are we racists here today? That’s how they’re trying to spin this one — this is good. Channel 13 came at me the other day — a cute little blonde, of course. They sent her at me, y’know, go get the story! Go get the radical…” The generator cuts out, silencing the mic, and the story about how he isn’t a racist is lost.

I'm dying here!

It’s dizzying and hot at the camp, and a very friendly man named Roy, wearing an Obama t-shirt with a joker smile painted on, hands me a cold bottle. He's from nearby Mesquite and has been a close friend and supporter of Bundy's these last few years. When I tell him I’m from New Mexico, the former cop says he has a very good buddy who used to work as a sheriff in my area.

“He got in a bit of trouble,” he chuckles. “He pulled over a carload of illegals one night, didn’t have room to haul ‘em all, so he put a chain around their neck and put a padlock through it, went to the next one, then he chained ‘em to a tree!”

He buckles with laughter as the story heats up. “Then he left ‘em and went to town to get his pickup to haul ‘em all back in. So, you might imagine, that didn’t play well — ha! You’re a young’un, but everything wasn’t against the law, way back when.”

[benjipwns]

I miss the good ol days when you could padlock people to a tree. 

[benjipwns]

 

[Joe Molotov]

(Image removed from quote.)

 

[AdmiralViscen]

emote plz

[Dickie Dee]

:boner

[Human Snorenado]

It's too bad we apparently lost Biz and his top shelf white people smiley skillz, brehs 

[benjipwns]

RNC communications director Sean Spicer denounced the comments from the rancher who became something of a conservative hero earlier this month during a standoff with the federal government over gazing fees.

...

"I think the comments that Mr. Bundy made with respect to race and other things were inappropriate and wrong, 100 percent out of line and not part of the discourse we need to have," Spicer said. "But that being said, what I find fascinating as the chief spokesman for the Republican Party is that when a guy has a problem with cattle grazing and has a discussion about the size of the federal government and the overreach of the federal government, makes a comment every reporter calls the Republican National Committee asking for comment."

Spicer went on to accuse the media of ignoring incidents that involved Democratic politics.

"When similar incidents happen time and time again on the left," he said, "there is zero coverage. Absolutely zero."

Spicer said there had barely been any coverage of the fact that Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn's (D) campaign had tweeted a Chicago Sun-Times column that some found offensive. The column compared blacks who supported a GOP gubernatorial candidate to Jews who collaborated with the Nazis during World War II.

"A sitting Democratic governor does anti-semitic comments that were offensive to Republicans and blacks and there was no coverage," Spicer said. "So while I am willing to call out time and time again anyone who uses inappropriate language and the RNC has frankly gotten made — time and time again we are asked for student council elections to county officials to other officials when similar incidents happen on the left there is zero coverage."

Spicer stressed again and again that the GOP was being too closely linked with Bundy and his comments.

"The issue with Cliven Bundy has absolutely nothing to do with his party, zero," Spicer said. "He is a Nevada rancher that had a beef with the federal government's continued overreach and suddenly this became a question when he made some inappropriate comments about what every Republican needs to answer for. That's absolutely ridiculous."

[Phoenix Dark]

It should be noted Pat Quinn did not make anti-Jewish or anti-black comments: a dumbass on his staff tweeted something that compared black republicans to Jews who helped the Nazis.

But in general it's fair to say democrats take a lot less flak for ignorant comments, and tend to get lambasted less. But as the CNN lady said, part of that is because the problem isn't seen as having a problem with women, race, etc. The GOP is basically a white party - go look at the 2012 RNC and then look at the 2012 DNC, it's like night and day. So when democrats say ignorant shit there really isn't an existing narrative to tie it to.

[Great Rumbler]

Except for the liberal plantation one

That gets brought up sometimes, but it doesn't really gain much traction outside of the right wing fringe. It's like the difference between the questions "which party cares the most about the issues facing minorities?" and "which party is most favored by whites?" The first would probably be more evenly split, but the Republican party would handily win the second question.

[Phoenix Dark]

Interestingly how many people who either use or hosted guests who used that phrase are now condemning Bundy's statement. I don't believe for a second that Hannity is outraged by Bundy's comments, they're close to republican canon at this point. How many times do conservatives compare the debt of the US to slavery? How many times do black conservatives argue black people were better off as slaves than they would have been in Africa? What about suggestions that blacks are brainwashed by liberals like slaves once were.

Bundy aired out their dirty laundry without a black republican present to say "you're absolutely right Bundy, in fact when I was in college..."

[Great Rumbler]

Yeah, the way he worded what he said was just too blunt. Instead of talking about "urban culture" or "welfare queens" or something a bit more of a dog whistle, he just flat out said "the Negro."

[Oblivion]

Yeah, I think the "negro" part would be what really did this dude in. I was wondering why this particular instance had a much bigger backlash than I would have otherwise expected.

[benjipwns]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/376607/obama-subverts-law-name-clemency-andrew-c-mccarthy

So now it’s the pardon power.

To this point, in making a mockery of his core constitutional duty to execute the laws faithfully, the broad law-enforcement discretion the Constitution vests in the executive branch has been President Obama’s preferred sleight of hand.

...

Alas, the next item on the transformational-change agenda is undoing prior administrations’ faithful execution of the narcotics laws. The forward-looking prosecutorial-discretion doctrine is unavailing to address the past. That is where the pardon power comes in.

The Obama administration does not like the federal narcotics laws. The enmity goes way beyond the president’s nostalgic sympathy for pot smokers. And it has nothing to do with the philosophical objections of libertarians to the criminalization of drug use — we are talking, after all, about an administration whose zeal to intrude on our private lives could make Michael Bloomberg blush. Instead, like Justice Sonia Sotomayor’s incoherent dissent in the Supreme Court’s affirmative-action ruling this week — she argues that a public referendum banning racial discrimination is somehow racially discriminatory — the administration’s disdain for the drug laws owes to its obsession with race and the poisonous politics that flow from it.

For years before they came to power, the president and his underlings belonged to a confederacy of leftist defense lawyers, academics, and “community organizers” — the people who gave us the criminal-rights revolution of the 1960s and the resultant soaring crime rates of the 1970s. Their cart-before-the-horse illogic gave us “disparate impact”: The theory that perversely erases from our consideration the only thing that makes racism racism — the intention to discriminate by race. Instead, they conveniently overlook the social, cultural, and government-policy roots of crime rates in minority communities, and instruct us to deduce systemic racism from the mere happenstance of higher minority conviction rates. The absence of a scintilla of evidence of racism in the text or enactment of the criminal laws makes no difference.

This thinking pervaded the bench every bit as much as the bar and the law schools. Criminals were often given absurdly light sentences for serious offenses. Consequently, when the public finally demanded that meaningful action be taken against the rising tide of crime, elected officials who answer to the voters took some sentencing discretion out of the hands of judges who do not.

...

Just as our counterterrorism policy is skewed by over-lawyering — normal people are more concerned about whether our methods prevent terrorist atrocities than whether they give enough due process to terrorists — so too is law-enforcement policy. The Lawyer Left agitates over the racial composition of narcotics dealers. But if lawmakers were factoring race into the equation at all when they wrote the drug laws — and the statutes themselves are race-neutral, as the Constitution mandates — it was the victims of narcotics trafficking they had in mind. The only disparate impact of significance to normal people, those not obsessed with race or criminals’ rights, is the impact that crack dealing has had on minority communities. They have been ravaged.

...

As usual, the administration’s story is rife with fraud. Holder carefully talks about “non-violent” drug “offenders.” Obama riffs about “kids or individual users” supposedly “lock[ed] up . . . for long stretches of jail time.” You are left to imagine poor addicts who never hurt anyone but themselves, languishing for decades in some super-max prison. Yet federal drug enforcement targets felony drug dealers, not simple possession of drugs — the latter is left to the states. Mere users of marijuana and crack are not wasting away in federal penitentiaries. Moreover, an offender sentenced under a mandatory-minimum provision has necessarily committed a significant narcotics felony; the felony distribution of minor amounts of narcotics is not subject to a mandatory minimum, and judges maintain discretion to sentence those offenders to little or no jail time. Obama and Holder are talking about freeing what could amount to thousands of serious criminals.

...

A lawless president does more than violate his oath and demonstrate his unfitness. He forfeits trust. You say you want immigration reformed? You say you want drug policy rethought? Opinions on these matters vary widely, but one thing is for certain: It makes no sense to legislate on a subject that hinges on effective law enforcement unless you can trust that the law you pass will be the law. That means you have to be able to trust the president. With this president, it means waiting for the next president.

gross

[benjipwns]

Fifty-five percent (55%) of Likely U.S. Voters believe the government should be allowed to review political ads and candidates’ campaign comments for their accuracy and punish those that it decides are making false statements about other candidates. A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 31% oppose such government oversight. Fourteen percent (14%) are undecided.

AGGGGH EVEN GROSSER

[Great Rumbler]

Neo-cons really just don't have anything, do they?

[Oblivion]

Somebody's gonna get fired soon:

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/04/27/foxs-howard-kurtz-slams-foxs-coverage-of-cliven/199044

 

Holy shitballs. Howard Kurtz goes to town on Fox News while hosting a show ON Fox News! I have never witnessed anything on this channel that was so blatant in calling out their own network. Even the reliably douchey Matt Lewis agreed with Kurtz' criticism.

And did Lewis just outright admit that Hannity and conservative media hoped that Bundy would get killed and become a martyr like with Ruby Ridge and Waco?