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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6660 on: September 25, 2014, 06:38:40 PM »
Benji is from Oakland?  That was like right across the street from my old place :dayum
Naw, those are all from Zombie. Who's always taking pictures of left-wing protests to expose that people from the left attend them.

I just like seeing the dumb signs and tables she posts.

I'd rather dryfuck a bag of razor blades then be within 15 miles of this bullshit.

Abolish Work? LOL...really? I picture the hipster professing this shit while holding a starbuks coffee, wearing glasses, and sporting abercrombie and fitch clothes all provided by...workers.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6661 on: September 25, 2014, 07:45:41 PM »
http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/conservatives-launch-unprecedented-campaign-against-pro-marr#44ih635
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WASHINGTON — Conservative activists are launching “an unprecedented campaign” against three Republican candidates — two of whom are out gay men — because of their support for marriage equality and abortion.

The National Organization for Marriage, Family Research Council Action, and CitizenLink “will mount a concerted effort to urge voters to refuse to cast ballots” for Republican House candidates Carl DeMaio in California and Richard Tisei in Massachusetts and Republican Senate candidate Monica Wehby in Oregon, according to a letter sent to Republican congressional and campaign leaders on Thursday.

“We cannot in good conscience urge our members and fellow citizens to support candidates like DeMaio, Tisei or Wehby,” the presidents of the three groups write. “They are wrong on critical, foundational issues of importance to the American people. Worse, as occupants of high office they will secure a platform in the media to advance their flawed ideology and serve as terrible role models for young people who will inevitably be encouraged to emulate them.”

DeMaio and Tisei are the only out LGBT federal candidates from the Republican Party to be appearing on the ballot this fall.

“The Republican Party platform is a ‘statement of who we are and what we believe.’ Thus, the platform supports the truth of marriage as the union of husband and wife, and recognizes the sanctity and dignity of human life,” NOM President Brian S. Brown said in a statement.

Brown called it “extremely disappointing” to see candidates supported “who reject the party’s principled positions on these and other core issues.”

Of the effort to urge people to oppose DeMaio, Tisei, and Wehby, he said, “We cannot sit by when people calling themselves Republicans seek high office while espousing positions that are antithetical to the overwhelming majority of Republicans.”

The letter was sent to House Speaker John Boehner, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, National Republican Congressional Campaign Committee Chairman Greg Walden, National Republican Senatorial Committee Chairman Jerry Moran, and others in Republican congressional leadership.

In it, the three conservative groups also warned that it is a “grave error” for the party to be supporting “candidates who do not hold core Republican beliefs and, in fact, are working to actively alienate the Republican base.”

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6662 on: September 25, 2014, 07:50:45 PM »
On one hand I have no problem letting the republicans keep republicans out of office.
On the other, marriage equality and all that....
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6663 on: September 25, 2014, 07:55:57 PM »
Man, those groups still don't get it. Few more years of Ls and maybe they'll realize the tide has turned. There will always be people who oppose abortion, and I'd imagine their numbers increase every time soon-to-be parents look at ultrasounds. But gay marriage isn't even a moral issue to most people anymore, and the average person can think of a single way it "hurts" their daily life.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6664 on: September 25, 2014, 08:29:29 PM »
Better get used to the concept of work not existing. The machines are going to do it for us.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6665 on: September 25, 2014, 08:33:47 PM »
the #duality of advanced robot comedians joking about humans having to sell crack or play basketball. The year is 2100.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6666 on: September 26, 2014, 01:51:54 AM »
I was thinking more like tossing salad.

Robots can jump out of the gym and they can certainly sling.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6667 on: September 26, 2014, 02:10:39 AM »
Man, those groups still don't get it. Few more years of Ls and maybe they'll realize the tide has turned. There will always be people who oppose abortion, and I'd imagine their numbers increase every time soon-to-be parents look at ultrasounds. But gay marriage isn't even a moral issue to most people anymore, and the average person can think of a single way it "hurts" their daily life.
It still is to about half the country. And more than half now find gay sex to be a sin. The tide is kind of in stasis no matter how many laws are overturned.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6668 on: September 26, 2014, 09:52:47 AM »
Support for gay marriage is polling over 50% right now [with those in opposition sitting around 40%], with even younger Republicans more in support of it than opposed to it. Which means that the biggest group still in opposition is people over 50.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6669 on: September 26, 2014, 10:03:29 AM »
Support for gay marriage is polling over 50% right now [with those in opposition sitting around 40%], with even younger Republicans more in support of it than opposed to it. Which means that the biggest group still in opposition is people over 50.

I am a republican, I am under 40, I have no issues with gay marriage...none.

Also am in favor of abortion

omg plot twist.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6670 on: September 26, 2014, 10:35:53 AM »
Support for gay marriage is polling over 50% right now [with those in opposition sitting around 40%], with even younger Republicans more in support of it than opposed to it. Which means that the biggest group still in opposition is people over 50.
Exactly. There are many articles about evangelicals struggling to contain gay marriage support amongst some of their younger members. It's a demographics game, and the dominant group who opposes it is on their way to the grave.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6671 on: September 26, 2014, 10:38:27 AM »
Support for gay marriage is polling over 50% right now [with those in opposition sitting around 40%], with even younger Republicans more in support of it than opposed to it. Which means that the biggest group still in opposition is people over 50.
Exactly. There are many articles about evangelicals struggling to contain gay marriage support amongst some of their younger members. It's a demographics game, and the dominant group who opposes it is on their way to the grave.

Absolutely. While there are still several in the younger generation that are being taught "biblical hate" for lack of a better term, the majority of us realize that people are in fact gay and that women should have control of their own bodies. That's just 101 shit man.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6672 on: September 26, 2014, 10:52:53 AM »
Support for gay marriage is polling over 50% right now [with those in opposition sitting around 40%], with even younger Republicans more in support of it than opposed to it. Which means that the biggest group still in opposition is people over 50.

I am a republican, I am under 40, I have no issues with gay marriage...none.

Also am in favor of abortion

omg plot twist.
So what you're telling me is that you're not republican. Filthy liberal.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6673 on: September 26, 2014, 10:56:38 AM »
Support for gay marriage is polling over 50% right now [with those in opposition sitting around 40%], with even younger Republicans more in support of it than opposed to it. Which means that the biggest group still in opposition is people over 50.

I am a republican, I am under 40, I have no issues with gay marriage...none.

Also am in favor of abortion

omg plot twist.
So what you're telling me is that you're not republican. Filthy liberal.

I hates me some government intrusion and don't want to pay taxes. Not liberal
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6674 on: September 26, 2014, 11:39:59 AM »
Support for gay marriage is polling over 50% right now [with those in opposition sitting around 40%], with even younger Republicans more in support of it than opposed to it. Which means that the biggest group still in opposition is people over 50.

I am a republican, I am under 40, I have no issues with gay marriage...none.

Also am in favor of abortion

omg plot twist.
So what you're telling me is that you're not republican. Filthy liberal.

I hates me some government intrusion and don't want to pay taxes. Not liberal
So, libertarian, then.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6675 on: September 26, 2014, 11:41:27 AM »
Support for gay marriage is polling over 50% right now [with those in opposition sitting around 40%], with even younger Republicans more in support of it than opposed to it. Which means that the biggest group still in opposition is people over 50.

I am a republican, I am under 40, I have no issues with gay marriage...none.

Also am in favor of abortion

omg plot twist.
So what you're telling me is that you're not republican. Filthy liberal.

I hates me some government intrusion and don't want to pay taxes. Not liberal
So, libertarian, then.

I will kill you.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6678 on: September 26, 2014, 03:28:11 PM »
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6680 on: September 26, 2014, 05:20:17 PM »
They seem to be holding strong in the demographic that has a bunch of senators despite having little of the population. :tocry

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6681 on: September 26, 2014, 05:42:02 PM »
They seem to be holding strong in the demographic that has a bunch of senators despite having little of the population. :tocry
it's almost as if dollars count for more votes than heads

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6682 on: September 26, 2014, 06:09:24 PM »
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/sarah-palin-1400-pennsylvania-avenue

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Sarah Palin probably meant "1600 Pennsylvania Avenue" when, during a speech at the 2014 Values Voter Summit on Friday, she said there's a lack of truth coming out of "1400 Pennsylvania Avenue."

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6683 on: September 26, 2014, 08:22:41 PM »
To be fair, she has a hard time locating things that she can't see from her house.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6684 on: September 27, 2014, 02:49:24 AM »
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/republicans-rallying-religious-liberty-25773378
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"Oh, the vacuum of American leadership we see in the world," Texas Sen. Ted Cruz declared Friday in a Washington hotel ballroom packed with religious conservatives. "We need a president who will speak out for people of faith, prisoners of conscience."

Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul echoed the theme in a speech describing America as a nation in "spiritual crisis."

"Not a penny should go to any nation that persecutes or kills Christians," said Paul, who like Cruz is openly considering a 2016 presidential bid.

The speaking program included such potential 2016 candidates as former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal. Several possible Republican candidates — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush among them — did not attend. The group has positions on social issues across the spectrum — from the libertarian-leaning Paul, who favors less emphasis on abortion and gay marriage, to Huckabee, a former Southern Baptist pastor whose conservative social values define his brand.

The event host, Family Research Council president Tony Perkins, said "a fundamental shift" is underway toward religious freedom among Republicans of all stripes.

"Without religious freedom, we lose the ability to even address those other issues," Perkins said of social issues.

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Jindal, who is also weighing a White House bid, seized on what he called Obama's "silent war" on religious freedom.

"The United States of America did not create religious liberty," Jindal said. "Religious liberty created the United States of America."

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"Let this generation be the one to stop abortion in America," Indiana Rep. Marlin Stutzman declared, calling on evangelicals to be "happy warriors" in the debate.

Cruz, an evangelical favorite who overwhelmingly won last year's Values Voter presidential straw poll, drew applause for chastising those in the GOP who encourage Republican candidates to downplay "family values."

"How do we win? We defend the values that are American values," Cruz said. "We stand for life. We stand for marriage. We stand for Israel."

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6685 on: September 27, 2014, 09:28:30 AM »
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"We stand for life. We stand for marriage. We stand for Israel."

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6686 on: September 27, 2014, 11:10:17 AM »
It's funny cuz Israel kills lots of people and I couldn't get married there even doe I could immigrate there.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6687 on: September 27, 2014, 12:20:47 PM »
Wait, let me guess: marriage is a privilege of the religious?

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6688 on: September 27, 2014, 12:24:33 PM »
Do you know any Ottoman history? Marriage in Israel is basically the old Millet system (communities self-govern). If you're not a part of a community, you can get something like what we would call a civil union in the U.S.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6689 on: September 27, 2014, 12:27:47 PM »
Not quite as crazy as I had imagined then. Signing a paper in an office isn't good enough for you? Are you a romantic after all? :uguu

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« Reply #6690 on: September 27, 2014, 12:45:08 PM »
IT'S TRUE, ALL I'VE WANTED IS TO BE LOVED. :stahp :tocry

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« Reply #6691 on: September 27, 2014, 01:11:20 PM »


And of course no charges will be filed against the cops. :goty
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« Reply #6692 on: September 27, 2014, 02:16:06 PM »
IT'S TRUE, ALL I'VE WANTED IS TO BE LOVED. :stahp :tocry

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« Reply #6693 on: September 27, 2014, 02:23:30 PM »


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« Reply #6694 on: September 27, 2014, 03:34:41 PM »
You are human and you need to be loved. Just like everybody else does.

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« Reply #6696 on: September 28, 2014, 01:02:18 AM »
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/388990/khorosan-group-does-not-exist-andrew-c-mccarthy
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We’re being had. Again.

For six years, President Obama has endeavored to will the country into accepting two pillars of his alternative national-security reality. First, he claims to have dealt decisively with the terrorist threat, rendering it a disparate series of ragtag jayvees. Second, he asserts that the threat is unrelated to Islam, which is innately peaceful, moderate, and opposed to the wanton “violent extremists” who purport to act in its name.

Now, the president has been compelled to act against a jihad that has neither ended nor been “decimated.” The jihad, in fact, has inevitably intensified under his counterfactual worldview, which holds that empowering Islamic supremacists is the path to security and stability. Yet even as war intensifies in Iraq and Syria — even as jihadists continue advancing, continue killing and capturing hapless opposition forces on the ground despite Obama’s futile air raids — the president won’t let go of the charade.

Hence, Obama gives us the Khorosan Group.

The who?

There is a reason that no one had heard of such a group until a nanosecond ago, when the “Khorosan Group” suddenly went from anonymity to the “imminent threat” that became the rationale for an emergency air war there was supposedly no time to ask Congress to authorize.

You haven’t heard of the Khorosan Group because there isn’t one.

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For a product of the radical Left like Obama, terrorism is a regrettable but understandable consequence of American arrogance. That it happens to involve Muslims is just the coincidental fallout of Western imperialism in the Middle East, not the doctrinal command of a belief system that perceives itself as engaged in an inter-civilizational conflict. For the Left, America has to be the culprit. Despite its inbred pathologies, which we had no role in cultivating, Islam must be the victim, not the cause. As you’ll hear from Obama’s Islamist allies, who often double as Democrat activists, the problem is “Islamophobia,” not Muslim terrorism.

This is a gross distortion of reality, so the Left has to do some very heavy lifting to pull it off. Since the Islamic-supremacist ideology that unites the jihadists won’t disappear, it has to be denied and purged. The “real” jihad becomes the “internal struggle to become a better person.” The scriptural and scholarly underpinnings of Islamic supremacism must be bleached out of the materials used to train our national-security agents, and the instructors who resist going along with the program must be ostracized. The global terror network must be atomized into discrete, disconnected cells moved to violence by parochial political or territorial disputes, with no overarching unity or hegemonic ambition. That way, they can be limned as a manageable law-enforcement problem fit for the courts to address, not a national-security challenge requiring the armed forces.

The president has been telling us for years that he handled al-Qaeda by killing bin Laden. He has been telling us for weeks that the Islamic State — an al-Qaeda renegade that will soon reconcile with the mother ship for the greater good of unity in the anti-American jihad — is a regional nuisance that posed no threat to the United States. In recent days, however, reality intruded on this fiction. Suddenly, tens of thousands of terrorists, armed to the teeth, were demolishing American-trained armies, beheading American journalists, and threatening American targets.

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« Reply #6697 on: September 28, 2014, 03:44:50 AM »
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There’s also at least one high-profile long-shot on the informal list being circulated inside Obama’s camp: former Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano, who left Washington in 2013 to take over the massive University of California system, according to one Democrat with close ties to the White House. Napolitano was the original choice for the job at the start of Obama’s first term – a favorite of then-Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel. Holder, who had considered himself the sole front-runner for the job, was startled during the 2008-09 transition period when he was handed a Department of Justice binder that included headshots of himself and Napolitano as potential AGs.
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« Reply #6698 on: September 28, 2014, 03:52:03 AM »
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/09/28/in-big-races-debates-few-and-far-between/
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Voters in Michigan torn between giving Gov. Rick Snyder (R) a second term or opting for his opponent, former Rep. Mark Schauer (D), will have only one chance to see the two men share a stage to debate their records. They’re lucky – voters in Minnesota are getting no debates at all: Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) has even refused to participate in a Minnesota Public Radio debate at the state fair, a tradition that stretches back 20 years

Across the country, in some of the most competitive contests for Senate seats and governorships and some of the least, incumbent office-holders are refusing to meet their opponents in front of television cameras.

The dearth of televised debates isn’t for lack of trying: Media outlets have proposed dozens of televised forums. But this year, more than ever before, candidates have squabbled over venues, hosts, dates and formats for debates – and as a consequence, all but a small handful of the faceoffs, rare opportunities for voters to weigh two candidates against each other, have been canceled.

Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) did not debate his primary opponent, state Sen. Chris McDaniel (R), and has not scheduled a debate before his general election showdown with former Rep. Travis Childers (D).

Maine Gov. Paul LePage (R) is threatening to pull out of previously-scheduled debates with his opponent, Rep. Mike Michaud (D), ostensibly because a group running ads on Michaud’s behalf accused LePage of describing Social Security and Medicaid as forms of welfare. In Ohio, the campaign of Gov. John Kasich (R) – sitting on a 20-point lead – said last week it would refuse any and all debates with his opponent, Cuyahoga County Executive Ed FitzGerald (D).

California Gov. Jerry Brown (D) has agreed to only one debate with former Bush administration official Neel Kashkari (R) as he seeks support from voters in the country’s largest state – and insisted it take place on the first Thursday of September, opposite the first NFL game of the season.

In many of these cases, incumbents are rejecting debates they, or their predecessors, had readily agreed to in the past.

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In Michigan, the Snyder and Schauer campaigns argued over whether a proposed debate before the Detroit Economic Club would be a lunchtime meeting or a prime time event. Either way, just five weeks before Election Day, that debate still hasn’t been scheduled. Snyder’s campaign didn’t respond to an invitation from WOOD-TV in Grand Rapids – so two weeks ago, the station canceled its debate.

The two candidates have managed to agree to just one faceoff: a one-hour, town hall-style gathering moderated by the editorial page editors of the Detroit News and the Detroit Free Press.

Like Snyder, Republican Senate candidate Terri Lynn Land, trailing Rep. Gary Peters (D), has not responded to WOOD-TV’s efforts to schedule a debate. Michigan State University and the League of Women Voters cancelled planned debates too, after Land’s campaign declined invitations.

Colorado voters weighing whether to keep Sen. Mark Udall (D) in office or elect Rep. Cory Gardner (R), will likely have three chances to see the two candidates debate on television – but only after months of atypical uncertainty and delay.

Udall’s campaign was approached by KDVR-TV, Denver’s Fox affiliate, in mid-July, in hopes of scheduling a debate for September or early October. Udall aides did not respond until on Sept. 4, more than seven weeks later, at 11:47 p.m., declining the invitation. The campaign also declined a debate on KCNC-TV, Denver’s CBS affiliate; six years ago, Udall debated his then-rival, Rep. Bob Schaffer (D), on the same station.

“Given that Udall had time to climb mountains over the August recess and that he has time to do a 30-minute sit-down interview with me for our Sunday morning politics show, it’s clear the issue isn’t really a lack of time but a clear – and understandable — strategic decision by the campaign to limit debates,” said Eli Stokols, KDVR’s chief political reporter.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo (D) did not debate Columbia University law professor Zephyr Teachout (D) before the Sept. 9 Democratic primary. Cuomo told The New York Times he didn’t think debates were necessarily good for democracy. “I’ve been in many debates that I think were a disservice to democracy,” Cuomo said, in a comment he has since classified as a joke. On Saturday, a little over five weeks before Election Day, Cuomo finally agreed to two debates with Republican opponent Rob Astorino.

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“People complain about the debates, that they are too much canned answers, we want more free-flowing conversation. On the other hand, people want a broad range of topics covered,” said Ron Klain, a Democratic strategist who has handled debate preparations for President Obama, former president Bill Clinton and countless other candidates.

“The pendulum has swung towards more questions with shorter answers this time,” Klain added. “We’re seeing answer times in a lot of debates as short as a minute, as short as 45 seconds.”

Candidates seem to have decided that taking criticism from editorial boards for avoiding debates is worth skipping an event that offers them limited political value. Several campaign strategists, who asked for anonymity to speak candidly, said offering an opponent running far behind in the polls a free media platform would amount to political malpractice.

“Debates are not debates. They’re joint press conferences. They’re dueling one-liners designed to fire up your base,” Yepsen said.
I was a bit baffled at how many debates were happening in 2010 and 2012 (I think the fallout from 2012's rape-fest had a major hand in this shift). There's still going to be a billion if not more debates for the Presidential primaries because it's free nationwide advertising and you want those one liners.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6699 on: September 28, 2014, 10:15:34 AM »
Actually the GOP cut presidential primary debates significantly to avoid a repeat of the embarrassing 2012 debates/clown show.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6700 on: September 29, 2014, 09:58:55 AM »
Even if they only have 1 debate, it's going to be embarrassing.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6701 on: September 29, 2014, 12:41:07 PM »
It's so demonic.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6702 on: September 29, 2014, 12:49:38 PM »
Michigan politics

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6703 on: September 29, 2014, 01:41:22 PM »
The political ads around here have a common word, "ultra".  It's either "ultra-liberal so and so blah blah blah" or "ultra-conservative so and so blah blah blah".

It's the time of year where you can tell which of your neighbors are real conservatives. Real conservatives love to put signs in their yard.
We see some of these around:


My kids were confused about them. I tell them it looks like they don't want NY to be safe.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6704 on: September 29, 2014, 01:46:00 PM »
If polls are to be believed a month or so out, Republican governors are going to cruise to reelection in FL, MI, OH, WI, etc. All places where they're deeply unpopular but apparently not unpopular enough to lose to idiot Democrats. Sigh.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6705 on: September 29, 2014, 01:56:30 PM »
Looks like Republicans are going to win big this time around thanks to some timely terrorism fear-mongering!
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6706 on: September 29, 2014, 02:31:26 PM »
If polls are to be believed a month or so out, Republican governors are going to cruise to reelection in FL, MI, OH, WI, etc. All places where they're deeply unpopular but apparently not unpopular enough to lose to idiot Democrats. Sigh.

eh a poll came out today with Walker down 5 in WI. Florida...smh. That race is so close, despite Scott being a CONVICTED Medicaire fraud. In FLORIDA.

Looks like Snyder is in a close race but he'll win... :obama
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6707 on: September 29, 2014, 03:55:18 PM »
Looks like Snyder is in a close race but he'll win... :obama

Haven't these people seen Watchmen or Sucker Punch?
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6708 on: September 29, 2014, 04:57:37 PM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/09/charlotte-clinton-mezvinsky-astrology-111411.html
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Leading astrologers say that Charlotte Clinton Mezvinsky is destined for a future working on social justice and will enjoy a strong relationship with her proud grandparents, Hillary and Bill.

After Chelsea Clinton and Mark Mezvinsky’s daughter was born at 7:03 pm at Lenox Hill Hospital on Manhattan’s Upper East Side on Friday, POLITICO asked astrologers to weigh in on what is written in the stars for the former first daughter’s first daughter.

“She may not follow her family’s politics, but she will follow the family’s activism and social justice and finding a way to serve the world, following in that community organizing path and picking up the roots of her grandparents,”said Ophira Edut, of the AstroTwins and co-author of the book “Momstrology: The AstroTwins’ Guide to Parenting your Little One by the Stars.”

“[Charlotte] is a Libra geared towards relationships, getting along, diplomacy, judicial matters and good breeding,” said Terry Nazon, host of iHeart Radio show “Terry Nazon’s Astrology Nation.” “This little Libra will be geared towards service to others, to fighting for the underdog and for the rights of others.”

Nazon also said that the stars show that Charlotte will “make a great lawyer or judge one day.”

“Unlike most Libra’s who are social butterflies, we will not see her as superficial or casual,” she added. “Charlotte is a deep thinker and will have very few friends that she lets get close to her.”

John Marchesella, the Education Director for the astrology organization the National Council for Geocosmic Research, predicted that her political endeavors would be focused in economics.

“Although she is likely to have political leanings, a strong humanitarian nature, she’s likely to do so from the position of power and money…even if she does have a political future, it would be from the side of politics that is more about finance,” Marchesella said.

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Charlotte was born when the moon was in the Scorpio position, known as a “Scorpio Moon,” which sets her up for a strong relationship with her grandmother.

“The moon often shows your emotions and also your relationships with the important women in your life, and actually Hillary herself is a Scorpio so [Charlotte will] probably be very close to her grandmother and even a lot like her in certain ways,” Edut said. “The Scorpio moon can be a little bit intense, so she may be a little quiet and sweet but also observing everything and very much like her grandmother, probably very direct when she really does believe or want something.”

Edut also predicted that Charlotte will be grandfather Bill’s “little sidekick.”

“Bill is a Leo and they’re going to have a really great relationship,” she said. “I think with Hillary they’re going to have a very powerful, emotional and maybe spiritual connection, but with Bill it’s going to be a lot of fun. Leos and Libras love to celebrate and play together, those two signs really just like to have a good time. So I think she’ll be the perfect match for his playful side of his personality. I think she’ll be his little sidekick.”

According to Marchesella, Charlotte will “share with [Bill] a lot of his humanitarian characteristics, caring much about social responsibility and social consciousness.”

Edut added, “She really will be ‘Billary,’ because she is going to have his charm and likability and Hillary’s sort of focus and intensity and desire to make things happen, so it’s going to be an interesting combo.”

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“I think she’s probably going to have a lot of admirers and even be a little flirty,” Edut said.
Scouts also say that her left hand is weak, and she sometimes gets lost on defense because of nearby shiny things.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6709 on: September 29, 2014, 05:05:12 PM »
Full on "Rome in the latter days of the empire" mode
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6710 on: September 29, 2014, 05:56:06 PM »
Full on "Rome in the latter days of the empire" mode

One of my nicknames as a child was Gaius, maybe I'll be able to start fronting with it now and ditch my weaksauce legal names. :rejoice

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6711 on: September 29, 2014, 06:30:04 PM »
One of my nicknames as a child was Gaius, maybe I'll be able to start fronting with it now and ditch my weaksauce legal names. :rejoice
Or maybe we'll just give you one name across all forms of identification including usernames and never allow you change it.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6712 on: September 29, 2014, 07:14:12 PM »
How un-NAP of you, benji-kun.

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« Reply #6713 on: September 29, 2014, 07:16:35 PM »
Heh, Gayus.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6714 on: September 29, 2014, 07:21:10 PM »
How un-NAP of you, benji-kun.
It'll be voluntary, like taxes.

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« Reply #6715 on: September 29, 2014, 07:21:24 PM »
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« Reply #6716 on: September 30, 2014, 08:47:48 PM »
:drudge TERRORIST KILLS TWO COPS AND IS NOW ROAMING THE COUNTRYSIDE IN NORTHEASTERN PENNSYLVANIA :drudge

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Considered "extremely dangerous" and possibly armed with an AK-47, officials were forced to close local schools in fear Frein might attack again. Lots of businesses in the area were ordered to stay dark, and some U.S. mail deliveries were suspended out of fear postmen might be exposed as possible targets for the shooter.

IT'S THE REAL THING GUYS ISIS IS HERE THEY'RE-

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"He made statements about wanting to kill law enforcement officers and to commit mass acts of murder," state police commissioner Frank Noonan warned the public at the time. Another official noted the shooter has a "longstanding grudge against law enforcement and government in general" dating back to at least 2006.

A friend was even more explicit.  "He was obviously a big critic of the federal government," a friend name Jack told CNN. (The friend did not give his last name.) "No indications of really any malice towards law enforcement in particular. Most of his aggression was (toward) the federal government."



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Sorry, guys, false alarm. He's not actually a terrorists after all.
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« Reply #6718 on: September 30, 2014, 10:05:19 PM »
The Examiner? :beli

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6719 on: September 30, 2014, 10:06:25 PM »
The Examiner? :beli

It's been corroborated by the Washington Post journalist who broke the story about the 2011 story.
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