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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6960 on: October 21, 2014, 07:40:22 PM »
Terrorize your poorest brehs.

BTW as someone who's recently moved to a place where gentrification yuppie lebensraum is incubating, it's really a bizarre and revolting phenomenon. (And I'm aware that I suppose I'm contributing to it.)

There's not much like walking through a stereotypical quinceanera to go to some faux trashy eatery where they make shitty approximations of everyperson food and sell it for almost as much as they sell a glass of beer and everyone dresses like they make no money but the parking lot is full of vehicles that would seem to indicate otherwise.

Just glad I'll (hopefully) be gone before the community that made this place home for a long time and gave it its distinct character while being left to rot (in terms of social services) by the County and police is completely driven out by ein volk.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6961 on: October 21, 2014, 09:09:08 PM »
Nothing has turned me off more this election season than my emails from the Democratic Party this year.  The titles are written for like 20 year college kids

"BOEHNER STUNNED!"
"Boehner GONE"
"We are ashamed"
"DO NOT DELETE"
"Boehner HUMILIATED"
"Mic drop from President Obama!"

I just searched through my trash bin in my email and picked some random ones.  And I get like 30 a day even after I chose the "Only send me the most imporant emails" option


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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6962 on: October 21, 2014, 11:17:13 PM »
"We are completely out of ideas. Please give us money. And maybe vote for us. Even though we're completely out of ideas." :heh

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6963 on: October 21, 2014, 11:26:06 PM »
NOT EVEN AN E-MAIL FROM PRESIDENT CLINTON WILL SWING THIS ELECTION! GIVE MORE!

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6964 on: October 22, 2014, 04:13:46 AM »


SCOTT BROWN MOMENTUM COMING??

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6965 on: October 22, 2014, 04:19:43 AM »
Alaska's sole congressman, and the longest serving GOP member of Congress spoke at an assembly to the high school students of Wasilla yesterday.
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Numerous witnesses say Young, 81, acted in a disrespectful and sometimes offensive manner to some students, used profanity and started talking about bull sex when confronted with a question about same-sex marriage.  More concerning, school officials say, Young made what they called hurtful and insensitive statements about suicide just days after a Wasilla student took his own life.
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"When I heard 'a lack of support from family' and I heard 'a lack of support from friends,' I felt the oxygen go out of the room, but I gasped as well," Spargo said. "It just isn't true in these situations. It's just such a hurtful thing to say."
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Adults present said that over the course of the 60-minute assembly, Young peppered his responses with salty language or stories not appropriate for a high-school audience. He said “hell” several times and told a story that involved flying to Paris to get drunk, Swick said.The story was in reference to the amount of travel time involved in his job.
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He got in one more question, this one about same-sex marriage.  “I asked why is it so bad in your eyes?” Grier said.
... Young answered, You can’t have marriage with two men. What do you get with two bulls?” Witnesses say Young then said something about a lot of "bullshazzle" or some word resembling the more familiar obscenity.
and this man will probably never lose his seat until he retires or dies.  Good jon Alaska.


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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6966 on: October 22, 2014, 04:24:50 AM »
I don't want to send anyone to Washington who is ignorant about bull sex.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6967 on: October 22, 2014, 08:28:33 AM »
I don't want to send anyone to Washington who is ignorant about bull sex.

I do question his theory that bullshit is formed when two bulls get married. I'm pretty sure that happens regardless.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6968 on: October 22, 2014, 12:54:57 PM »
Tyrone and or rock and roll clown reference(s).
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6970 on: October 22, 2014, 01:16:35 PM »
If Biden had his way with the laws, his son would be in jail. I wonder if this will soften his stance on drug penalties.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6972 on: October 23, 2014, 02:17:37 AM »
Oregon >>> all states

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6973 on: October 23, 2014, 10:14:32 AM »
except when it comes to building websites.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6974 on: October 23, 2014, 11:12:33 AM »
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/reagan-aide-calls-for-southern-secession

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A former aide to President Ronald Reagan is calling for southern states to secede from the union and form a new conservative nation called "Reagan" where citizens wouldn't be forced to compromise on "traditional values" like marriage.

Reagan :heh

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"You have to remember that all 11 states from the South, including ultimately Texas, seceded legally," MacKinnon told Mefferd. "They left the union peacefully, they left the union legally, and then President Lincoln … part of the problem there was that the North realized very quickly that it could not survive economically without the power of the South."

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6975 on: October 23, 2014, 12:03:46 PM »
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Interestingly, MacKinnon left the state with the strongest history of secessionist sentiment out of his thought experiment.

"I'm a huge fan of Texas ... but you know, if in fact, you tried to do something like that, then would the government of Mexico look at Texas in sort of a more hostile manner than it already does now," he explained. "There have certainly been a number of incursions into Texas and other places from some of the folks in Mexico."

Texas doesn't get to have traditional values because they still need the feds to protect them from Messicans. :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6976 on: October 23, 2014, 12:44:22 PM »
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They don't need to invent their own country. There's already one out there that perfectly meets conservative needs:

Ruled by religious doctrine
No worker's rights or environmental regulation
No unions
Homosexuality is illegal and sometimes punishable by death
Women know their "proper place" in society and exist only to please their husbands
Totally in love with oil drilling
Skeptical of science
Loaded guns in every hand
No social safety net of any kind
It's called Iran. And as an added bonus, they probably even have some weapons left over that Ronald Reagan illegally sold them back in the 1980s.

Pack your bags, fuckers. Paradise awaits.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6978 on: October 23, 2014, 03:33:07 PM »
Terrorize your poorest brehs.

BTW as someone who's recently moved to a place where gentrification yuppie lebensraum is incubating, it's really a bizarre and revolting phenomenon. (And I'm aware that I suppose I'm contributing to it.)

There's not much like walking through a stereotypical quinceanera to go to some faux trashy eatery where they make shitty approximations of everyperson food and sell it for almost as much as they sell a glass of beer and everyone dresses like they make no money but the parking lot is full of vehicles that would seem to indicate otherwise.

Just glad I'll (hopefully) be gone before the community that made this place home for a long time and gave it its distinct character while being left to rot (in terms of social services) by the County and police is completely driven out by ein volk.

I'm sure every slum in existence had people reminiscing about the good old days just before the bulldozers went in.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6979 on: October 23, 2014, 05:14:41 PM »
The local inhabitants are driven out long before the bulldozers come in. :ufup

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6981 on: October 23, 2014, 05:39:22 PM »
Mitch McConnell is a non-fictional, white Clay Davis. Who is way less entertaining and way more embarrassing to his constituents.

Who will speak out of both sides of his mouth like it is an art form and not a sign of great dishonor. It takes some kind of twisted temerity to say you care about the waters of life, and then the following week vote to cap what BP had to pay for the worst ecological disaster of my lifetime. It takes a special brand of moxie to state with one breath that you care about the health of your poorest constituents, and then turn around and vote against them getting health care. It takes an unmentionable sort of audacity to say you love all of your god's children and then turn around and try to deny them the right to marry based on the fact that they like the same gender to which they belong.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6982 on: October 23, 2014, 05:46:36 PM »
Mitch McConnell is a non-fictional, white Clay Davis. Who is way less entertaining and way more embarrassing to his constituents.

Fuck, this is the best thing I've read all day. :lawd  Mind if I use it?
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6983 on: October 23, 2014, 05:53:54 PM »
Plus, riddle me this: If this man can't pull a pin out of his asshole with a John Deere tractor, then how is he supposed to rid himself of impurities?


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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6984 on: October 23, 2014, 06:04:48 PM »
Too bad Kentucky is going to re-elect him, despite Obamacare cutting the uninsured rate by like 60 fucking percent.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6985 on: October 23, 2014, 07:35:50 PM »


Gay massages will lead to the downfall of the US Military.  :usacry :usacry :usacry
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6986 on: October 23, 2014, 07:47:31 PM »
Gay massages makes you vulnerable to terrorism. Half of the Bore to be blown up.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6987 on: October 23, 2014, 08:27:19 PM »
Blown up like on Grindr or like crowded bus in Tel Aviv.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6988 on: October 23, 2014, 10:02:07 PM »
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-great-kansas-tea-party-disaster-20141023?page=4

The NY Times says their tax shortfalls are looking to be permanent rather than cyclical as Brownback tried to claim. :neogaf

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6989 on: October 23, 2014, 10:08:48 PM »
Blown up like on Grindr or like crowded bus in Tel Aviv.

Blown up like Grindr on a crowded bus in Tel Aviv.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6990 on: October 24, 2014, 03:46:09 AM »



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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6991 on: October 24, 2014, 08:38:44 AM »
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/reagan-aide-calls-for-southern-secession

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A former aide to President Ronald Reagan is calling for southern states to secede from the union and form a new conservative nation called "Reagan"

Reagan :heh


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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6992 on: October 24, 2014, 12:07:06 PM »
Americans really are dumb fuckers, aren't they? GOP can "better manage federal govt?" THEY DON'T THINK IT SHOULD FUCKING EXIST.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6993 on: October 24, 2014, 12:10:52 PM »
Americans really are dumb fuckers, aren't they? GOP can "better manage federal govt?" THEY DON'T THINK IT SHOULD FUCKING EXIST.

Not exactly true bub.

We mostly feel we don't need the federal government created mandates that the population must adhere too (IE Healthcare) as they really aren't good at them.

As far as national defense and international relations? We need a Fed Gov for this? Economics as well.

War on Drugs? Loss
Education Reform? Loss
Job Creation? Loss (And don't fucking tell me creating 3 10 dollar an hour jobs replaces one guy making 55k a year, stop it)
Welfare? Huge loss. People have  no desire nor need to get off of it. It was created as a stopgap, not a destination
Healthcare? Will be a huge loss. People are starting to gripe about cost and deductibles already
Social Security? Yeah, none of us will have to worry about this because it'll be gone soon.

And both sides are at fault for these, so I'm not picking a favorite. Stay the fuck off my lawn.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6994 on: October 24, 2014, 01:56:45 PM »
People are mad at Obama for not cleaning up the mess Republicans created, so clearly the only logical choice is to vote Republicans back in!

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« Reply #6995 on: October 24, 2014, 02:23:18 PM »
Shooting at a high school in Marysville, WA. Ugh.

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2014/10/shooting-reported-at-marysville-pilchuck-high-school/

The high school is a huge a sprawling campus. The high school I work at used to be like that, but we moved into a new single three-story building this year to help alleviate problems that can result with numerous buildings and entry points.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6996 on: October 24, 2014, 03:28:46 PM »
In reality he's not a good communicator; giving good speeches doesn't equal being a good communicator. 6 years in and he still can't effortlessly talk to the public or defend his policies like Clinton or Reagan. The WH just allows shit to fester and then they respond after public opinion has been formed. For instance ebola. How hard would it be to come out and shit talk the fear mongering going on now and make it clear this is not an epidemic, it's not air borne, etc etc. Sort of like this:


Simple and to the point.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6997 on: October 24, 2014, 03:47:25 PM »
Speaking of good communicators:

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6998 on: October 24, 2014, 03:51:08 PM »
Boats at the...bottom?
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #6999 on: October 24, 2014, 03:58:56 PM »
AIA, how do you feel about Switzerland's health insurance system? They seem to manage juggling universal coverage, private management, and government oversight with what I assume is good results given the amount of top notch specialists domiciled there and (from what I've seen) high scores in health metrics.

If our European half sibling with Revolutionary France can make it work, idk why we can't.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7000 on: October 24, 2014, 04:14:48 PM »
Shooting at a high school in Marysville, WA. Ugh.

http://blogs.seattletimes.com/today/2014/10/shooting-reported-at-marysville-pilchuck-high-school/

The high school is a huge a sprawling campus. The high school I work at used to be like that, but we moved into a new single three-story building this year to help alleviate problems that can result with numerous buildings and entry points.



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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7001 on: October 25, 2014, 11:16:40 AM »
AIA, how do you feel about Switzerland's health insurance system? They seem to manage juggling universal coverage, private management, and government oversight with what I assume is good results given the amount of top notch specialists domiciled there and (from what I've seen) high scores in health metrics.

If our European half sibling with Revolutionary France can make it work, idk why we can't.

Problem is big health care does not aim to participate.

We have two mega hospital systems in Ohio. The Cleveland Clinic who already stated if you have obamacare :ufup and go somewhere else.

University hospitals did the same.

And if you challenge them on taxes or obamacare they layoff 1,000's of people and halt construction which grinds Cleveland to a micro depression every time as 100,000's depend on their business.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7002 on: October 25, 2014, 01:31:31 PM »
To be fair Obamacare plans are accepted, just not shit ones. Still don't understand how grown adults don't understand Obamacare plans=private insurance plans. If you have a trash private plan your options are going to be limited whether it's Obamacare or not. When I worked with dental insurance we'd reject a variety of plans to avoid the drama of massive write offs or those low % plans.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7003 on: October 25, 2014, 02:18:36 PM »
Avik Roy stans hard for the Swiss system and yet has managed to churn out an anti-ACA article a week for years now, pretty much proving he's a shill.

IIRC there's no Medicaid component, everyone has to pay X percent (want to say 8?) of their income towards coverage.

I'm sure there's still shilling (heh) involved, but there are (again IIRC) elements that would be more palatable to an American conservative in that system.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7004 on: October 25, 2014, 02:59:34 PM »
http://jezebel.com/5893011/law-will-allow-employers-to-fire-women-for-using-whore-pills
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Yesterday, a Senate Judiciary Committee endorsed Republican Debbie Lesko's HB2625 by a vote of 6-2, which would allow an employer to request proof that a woman using insurance to buy birth control was being prescribed the birth control for reasons other than not wanting to get pregnant.
??? ??? ??? :maf
Talk about being a traitor to one’s own gender...

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7005 on: October 26, 2014, 01:09:35 AM »
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DAVID BROOKS, NEW YORK TIMES: I think it’s a respectable position to say we should not allow flights from West Africa. I don’t think it’s probably very effective, because don’t just fly here from direct to Africa. They fly around the world and then come here. So, I just don’t think it’s effective, but it’s a respectable position.

But I don’t think it’s below the belt to have a feeling that the establishment or the ruling class in this country is not particularly competent. And you wouldn’t look at the way Ebola has been handled, at least so far, and say it’s been a testimony to the competence of the establishment.

And there are a lot of people who are just — we have a great social segmentation going on. And so there are a lot of people just with no contact with the people like us they see on TV giving them expert opinion about Ebola or anything else, and they just want to wave it away and they just want to pull in and trust the people they trust and that’s local.

And when the national borders seem porous and uncontrolled, they are going to react. And I think that’s a completely legitimate reaction.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7008 on: October 27, 2014, 11:22:34 AM »
Begich tied in Alaska. Udall and Braley down 1.5 in polls. If just one of the latter can squeak out a win due to ground game / minority under-sampling / early voting (which looks really good for Braley), we can avoid a GOP Senate. 50 + Biden is a win, IMO.

I'm not a huge fan of the Democratic party, but an R Senate would be awful, even if it's quite likely they'd get the Senate back in 2016. For one, just from an actuarial standpoint, there is a very good chance that a Supreme Court justice will have to retire in the next two years. I don't know if a GOP majority would go so far as to refuse to confirm anyone (that would be unprecedented, to my knowledge), but it's pretty likely that whoever they would confirm would have to be a centrist. If Ginsburg were to retire, the SC would shift right by default.

Second, the gloating would be unbearable.

Dream on cup cake, republican senate is happening breh.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7009 on: October 27, 2014, 11:34:25 AM »
I could see republicans blocking Gingsburg's successor even if democrats have 50+Biden. That could be the straw that breaks the camel's back and lead to Reid annihilating the 60 vote threshold for SC nominees. Which could be a very bad thing for the future. But then again you get what you vote for - it would perhaps make people more cognizant of the importance elections have on their lives. Both sides will continue the corporate tilt of the court but on social issues we're seeing the conservatives effectively reintroduce poll taxes through voter ID laws, abortion rights being whittled down, and other shit.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7010 on: October 27, 2014, 11:37:29 AM »
I could see republicans blocking Gingsburg's successor even if democrats have 50+Biden. That could be the straw that breaks the camel's back and lead to Reid annihilating the 60 vote threshold for SC nominees. Which could be a very bad thing for the future. But then again you get what you vote for - it would perhaps make people more cognizant of the importance elections have on their lives. Both sides will continue the corporate tilt of the court but on social issues we're seeing the conservatives effectively reintroduce poll taxes through voter ID laws, abortion rights being whittled down, and other shit.

Live in America and not have an ID breh....they cost like 8 bucks.

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Knock it off with this poll tax bullshit, it's a bad look.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7011 on: October 27, 2014, 11:49:13 AM »
The problem is that they cost more than $8 in most areas, and worse yet DMVs are being closed in many black and Hispanic areas, thus placing a burden on people with no transportation; some can get on a bus but not every city has a decent transportation system (see: Detroit).

I'd be 100% fine with voter ID if they were free, instead of the current system which disenfranchises the poor. Another problem: the arbitrary, obviously biased way some IDs are accepted and some aren't. For instance in many southern states a student ID isn't considered proper ID, but a hunting license is. Some even claim hunting licenses are proof of citizenship while refusing to accept legit proof of citizenship like a VA card or Native American reservation IDs.

It's an obvious attempt to disenfranchise poor and minority voters. It backfired in 2012 but is quite effective in midterms. I think the GOP is a couple years from realizing the only power they'll maintain is through midterm elections, ie once Hillary blows them out in 2016. But assuming democrats don't get blown out in 2020 they'll be well placed to shitcan republicans with gerrymandering, like republicans did in 2010.*

*I don't support gerrymandering and hope it's banned, but both sides won't let that happen.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7012 on: October 27, 2014, 11:50:50 AM »
The problem is that they cost more than $8 in most areas, and worse yet DMVs are being closed in many black and Hispanic areas, thus placing a burden on people with no transportation; some can get on a bus but not every city has a decent transportation system (see: Detroit).

I'd be 100% fine with voter ID if they were free, instead of the current system which disenfranchises the poor. Another problem: the arbitrary, obviously biased way some IDs are accepted and some aren't. For instance in many southern states a student ID isn't considered proper ID, but a hunting license is. Some even claim hunting licenses are proof of citizenship while refusing to accept legit proof of citizenship like a VA card or Native American reservation IDs.

It's an obvious attempt to disenfranchise poor and minority voters. It backfired in 2012 but is quite effective in midterms. I think the GOP is a couple years from realizing the only power they'll maintain is through midterm elections, ie once Hillary blows them out in 2016. But assuming democrats don't get blown out in 2020 they'll be well placed to shitcan republicans with gerrymandering, like republicans did in 2010.*

*I don't support gerrymandering and hope it's banned, but both sides won't let that happen.

Need an ID to work bro

Need an ID to collect benefits bro

Need an ID for about anything bro.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7013 on: October 27, 2014, 11:55:45 AM »
Even more of a reason to justify them being free.

There is no such thing as "free" outside of liberal lunacy. Somebody has to pay for them.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7014 on: October 27, 2014, 11:56:39 AM »
The problem is that they cost more than $8 in most areas, and worse yet DMVs are being closed in many black and Hispanic areas, thus placing a burden on people with no transportation; some can get on a bus but not every city has a decent transportation system (see: Detroit).

I'd be 100% fine with voter ID if they were free, instead of the current system which disenfranchises the poor. Another problem: the arbitrary, obviously biased way some IDs are accepted and some aren't. For instance in many southern states a student ID isn't considered proper ID, but a hunting license is. Some even claim hunting licenses are proof of citizenship while refusing to accept legit proof of citizenship like a VA card or Native American reservation IDs.

It's an obvious attempt to disenfranchise poor and minority voters. It backfired in 2012 but is quite effective in midterms. I think the GOP is a couple years from realizing the only power they'll maintain is through midterm elections, ie once Hillary blows them out in 2016. But assuming democrats don't get blown out in 2020 they'll be well placed to shitcan republicans with gerrymandering, like republicans did in 2010.*

*I don't support gerrymandering and hope it's banned, but both sides won't let that happen.

Need an ID to work bro

Need an ID to collect benefits bro

Need an ID for about anything bro.

As I said, I'm not opposed to IDs - just make them easily accessible to all. Which is NOT the case in the south right now, and many other states.

The fact that voter fraud is nearly nonexistent should tell folks this is nothing more than an attempt to obstruct voting. The more people vote=democrats win. That's just a demographic reality.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7015 on: October 27, 2014, 11:58:19 AM »
The problem is that they cost more than $8 in most areas, and worse yet DMVs are being closed in many black and Hispanic areas, thus placing a burden on people with no transportation; some can get on a bus but not every city has a decent transportation system (see: Detroit).

I'd be 100% fine with voter ID if they were free, instead of the current system which disenfranchises the poor. Another problem: the arbitrary, obviously biased way some IDs are accepted and some aren't. For instance in many southern states a student ID isn't considered proper ID, but a hunting license is. Some even claim hunting licenses are proof of citizenship while refusing to accept legit proof of citizenship like a VA card or Native American reservation IDs.

It's an obvious attempt to disenfranchise poor and minority voters. It backfired in 2012 but is quite effective in midterms. I think the GOP is a couple years from realizing the only power they'll maintain is through midterm elections, ie once Hillary blows them out in 2016. But assuming democrats don't get blown out in 2020 they'll be well placed to shitcan republicans with gerrymandering, like republicans did in 2010.*

*I don't support gerrymandering and hope it's banned, but both sides won't let that happen.

Need an ID to work bro

Need an ID to collect benefits bro

Need an ID for about anything bro.

As I said, I'm not opposed to IDs - just make them easily accessible to all. Which is NOT the case in the south right now, and many other states.

The fact that voter fraud is nearly nonexistent should tell folks this is nothing more than an attempt to obstruct voting. The more people vote=democrats win. That's just a demographic reality.

You are writing like this is 2008 bro. Nowadays the more people who vote the worst the democrats chances are. They are getting smoked in Ohio.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7016 on: October 27, 2014, 12:02:57 PM »
Michelle Nunn is also polling about even or slightly above her GOP opponent in GA.

Don't get excited, though- we have a dumb law here that mandates Senate candidates have to get 50% +1 of the total popular vote or there's a runoff. If Nunn gets the most votes in the general she'll still probably lose in a runoff, it happened before to Wyche Fowler vs. Paul Coverdell in I wanna say 92 or 94.

Also, lolz @ AIA- stan for a party that has basically publicly said they want fewer minorities to vote, breh.

edit- yup, getting smoked with a shitty candidate for guv in an off year election with less turnout. DERP.
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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7017 on: October 27, 2014, 12:07:18 PM »
Y'all gonna lose, sorry.

Your president went out and got you the L you deserved. His follow through is about as good as Charles Barkley's golf swing.

In fact here is my summary of the last 6 or so years or Obama's leadership.



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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7018 on: October 27, 2014, 12:11:29 PM »
The problem is that they cost more than $8 in most areas, and worse yet DMVs are being closed in many black and Hispanic areas, thus placing a burden on people with no transportation; some can get on a bus but not every city has a decent transportation system (see: Detroit).

I'd be 100% fine with voter ID if they were free, instead of the current system which disenfranchises the poor. Another problem: the arbitrary, obviously biased way some IDs are accepted and some aren't. For instance in many southern states a student ID isn't considered proper ID, but a hunting license is. Some even claim hunting licenses are proof of citizenship while refusing to accept legit proof of citizenship like a VA card or Native American reservation IDs.

It's an obvious attempt to disenfranchise poor and minority voters. It backfired in 2012 but is quite effective in midterms. I think the GOP is a couple years from realizing the only power they'll maintain is through midterm elections, ie once Hillary blows them out in 2016. But assuming democrats don't get blown out in 2020 they'll be well placed to shitcan republicans with gerrymandering, like republicans did in 2010.*

*I don't support gerrymandering and hope it's banned, but both sides won't let that happen.

Need an ID to work bro

Need an ID to collect benefits bro

Need an ID for about anything bro.

As I said, I'm not opposed to IDs - just make them easily accessible to all. Which is NOT the case in the south right now, and many other states.

The fact that voter fraud is nearly nonexistent should tell folks this is nothing more than an attempt to obstruct voting. The more people vote=democrats win. That's just a demographic reality.

You are writing like this is 2008 bro. Nowadays the more people who vote the worst the democrats chances are. They are getting smoked in Ohio.
:what

You realize midterms have lower turnout than general elections? They benefit republicans because the demographics favor voters they appeal to - older, whiter. Whereas general elections lead to everyone voting - and the majority of demographics in this country favor democrats. Romney won white voters...Obama won everything else. And Hillary will do the same while winning at least 8-10% more white voters than Obama.

Even in the midterm races this year democrats are winning the female vote. Republicans are fucked long term, until they begin moving more towards where you are: economically conservative, libertarian/liberal on social issues.

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Re: RETURN TO IRAQ: THEY SAVED CHENEY'S BRAIN! Thread of American Politics
« Reply #7019 on: October 27, 2014, 12:12:27 PM »
Even more of a reason to justify them being free.

There is no such thing as "free" outside of liberal lunacy. Somebody has to pay for them.

Okay fine, paid for by taxpayer money.

The question is, why are you in favor of providing systemic obstacles for people to exercise their right to vote and access to labor? The tiny percent chance of fraud?

:heh

If you honestly think there is a minimal chance of voter fraud, you're crazy. Happens every year.

What is wrong with requiring an ID. If you are a citizen you should have one. If you don't, then you have more important things to consider than if you should pass the school levy or not.
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