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Romney/Palin 2016
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Sooo first the reports said Mitt was going to run to Bush's right with a hard stance against immigration. Now he's Mr. Income Inequality and talking about global warming. Wut.
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Shut up PD...we got some serious Jason bourn type shit to deal with....


http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2015/01/new_york_russian_spy_ring_us_a.html#incart_river

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I'm sure the 99%'ers will be more than pleased to hear that a guy is spending 900 million to run for an election. Should go well for him.
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Why not spend money to change electoral college rules? Throwing money at general elections is very inefficient. I can't link now but Rove's group was one of the least effective spending groups in 2012 (money spent and amount of candidates who were elected).
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Why not spend money to change electoral college rules? Throwing money at general elections is very inefficient. I can't link now but Rove's group was one of the least effective spending groups in 2012 (money spent and amount of candidates who were elected).

Bingo.

This is why I stopped contributing to the national election fund and focused on assisting local guys who actually have a pulse.
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900 million dollars to lose an election.

Incredible :obama

They're probably spend a good chunk of that on local and judicial elections, where it actually will make a big difference. :goty
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Last time they didn't, surprisingly. I'd imagine most of that money will go to the general election nominee and senate/congress candidates.

Another problem for them is that turnout is significantly higher during a general election, making it harder to drown candidates. Hillary, like Obama in 2008 and 2012, is going to have a rising tide effect on multiple dem candidates. Whereas if you spend a shit ton of money in a midterm election with low turnout you can gain more seats.

I'd use the money to convince state congressman to split electoral college votes in blue states dominated by republican legislatures/governors. Michigan and Pennsylvania almost did it last year but backed down due to fear of voter anger. Perhaps a big ass check would convince them to go through with it; PA now has a democrat governor so it wouldn't work, but maybe Michigan? The main reason this is a blue state is because of the big cities. If you split the EC votes based on districts it would have been possible for Romney to receive more EC votes than Obama in 2012 for instance.

It's a dangerous plan that would certainly backfire two years later when angry voters shitcan the congressman who supported such a heist...but if it managed to elect a republican president wouldn't it be worth it to sacrifice some state legislators?
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Not PA now, but they say between Philly and Pittsburgh is a whole lotta Alabama. NY too if it wasn't for NYC.
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http://www.vox.com/2015/1/27/7908833/inequality-state-one-percent

So this guy:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=148091279&postcount=225

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I read it and it's disgusting. I'm trying to support my family and save for retirement and this shit only hurts that cause. I'm lucky we were just able to pay off our auto loans a couple months back. But the fucking student debt might as well be a mortgage in and of itself. So essentially I'll be at a higher tax rate just because I barely make more than 500k? Absurd. It'd be different if I were even at 750k but essentially 505k for 3 people and another on the way with the already absurd health cost, cost of living etc. it's just not helping and I'm pissed.

Is, depending on whatever state he lives in, either well in the 1% of his state or nearing it. And he lives paycheck to paycheck.

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Yeah, well, once he's spent all of his money, he's just as poor as everyone else!
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He's bullshitting. Even at the highest Tax level if he made 500+ thousand a year he would not have these struggles unless he has a significant and expensive habit or a history of bad debt.
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900 million dollars  of pure FREEDOM right in your asshole :jawalrus

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us/politics/kochs-plan-to-spend-900-million-on-2016-campaign.html?_r=0

I can believe it.  I can easily see each candidate spending close to or at $1.5 billion for the upcoming election.

He's bullshitting. Even at the highest Tax level if he made 500+ thousand a year he would not have these struggles unless he has a significant and expensive habit or a history of bad debt.

I know people who make that kind of money and they complain about being broke.  Some people consider owning luxury cars, private school, latest smartphones and Macbook Airs, etc. to be essential expenses.  The guy also mentions having a family: I bet they blow all kinds of crazy money on shit for their child(ren).  Since he's a gaffer, you might throw in thousands of dollars of gaming expenses and I'm sure his wife/girlfriend/whatever has expensive tastes as well.  When it all adds up, yeah, there probably won't be a whole lot left.
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I know people who make that kind of money and they complain about being broke.  Some people consider owning luxury cars, private school, latest smartphones and Macbook Airs, etc. to be essential expenses.  The guy also mentions having a family: I bet they blow all kinds of crazy money on shit for their child(ren).  Since he's a gaffer, you might throw in thousands of dollars of gaming expenses and I'm sure his wife/girlfriend/whatever has expensive tastes as well.  When it all adds up, yeah, there probably won't be a whole lot left.

So this

Yeah, well, once he's spent all of his money, he's just as poor as everyone else!


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900 million dollars  of pure FREEDOM right in your asshole :jawalrus

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/27/us/politics/kochs-plan-to-spend-900-million-on-2016-campaign.html?_r=0

I can believe it.  I can easily see each candidate spending close to or at $1.5 billion for the upcoming election.

He's bullshitting. Even at the highest Tax level if he made 500+ thousand a year he would not have these struggles unless he has a significant and expensive habit or a history of bad debt.

I know people who make that kind of money and they complain about being broke.  Some people consider owning luxury cars, private school, latest smartphones and Macbook Airs, etc. to be essential expenses.  The guy also mentions having a family: I bet they blow all kinds of crazy money on shit for their child(ren).  Since he's a gaffer, you might throw in thousands of dollars of gaming expenses and I'm sure his wife/girlfriend/whatever has expensive tastes as well.  When it all adds up, yeah, there probably won't be a whole lot left.

The three essential things I spent money on were my house, my kid's education, and transportation for my wife and son. I am more than willing to bet that guy, if he is even legit as 505k is a significant amount of cash, either overbought his house, owns expensive bullshit he doesn't need, or continually borrows against his property and is now severely leveraged by an aggressive mortgage.

Fact is that guy "makes" more than I do and I have not of the problems he does. Money management is one of the most important things in your life. Nobody wants to work until they are 70.

FYI:

Your yearly salary of $500,000 is then equivalent to an average hourly wage of $250 per hour.
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Subdue your passions brehs.
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Are you saying, Walrus, that expiring benefits HAD NOTHING to do with people being forced to find a job? really?

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I mean I get and actually agree with some democratic viewpoints but this isn't one of them. Lazy people sat on their asses until they had to find a job. Not all of them but a significant percentage.

Source: Lazy assholes who facebooked/told me/told the news/etc/
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I don't doubt that it had some effect. However, attributing 60% of last year's job creation to the expiration of benefits is quite the extraordinary claim.

The math works, breh.
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I don't doubt that it had some effect. However, attributing 60% of last year's job creation to the expiration of benefits is quite the extraordinary claim.

If you told me that 100k, 250k, hell, even 500k people wouldn't have gotten jobs if the benefits hadn't been continued, I really wouldn't bat an eye, but 1.8 million out of 3 million just doesn't pass the smell test.

I'd rather see a study that shows the gap in income between the jobs people had before an their new jobs that wasn't swayed by either party.

A lot of people went from Full Time + Benefits to Part time workers.
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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has agreed to testify before the House Select Committee investigating the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, CNN reports.

Rep. Elijah Cummings, the panel’s Democratic ranking member, told CNN Tuesday that Clinton had agreed to testify before the committee late last year.

“The chairman asked me back in September to inquire as to whether Secretary Clinton would testify,” Cummings said. “She immediately said she would and that she wanted to come in December, but if December did not work, she would come in January. She said, ‘I’ll do it, period.’ The fact is, she was very clear. She did not hesitate for one second.”
Finally we can get to the bottom of what happened at Benghazi. Good on Hillary for giving up her Presidential bid to finally let the truth come out.

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Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has agreed to testify before the House Select Committee investigating the Sept. 11, 2012, terrorist attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, CNN reports.

Rep. Elijah Cummings, the panel’s Democratic ranking member, told CNN Tuesday that Clinton had agreed to testify before the committee late last year.

“The chairman asked me back in September to inquire as to whether Secretary Clinton would testify,” Cummings said. “She immediately said she would and that she wanted to come in December, but if December did not work, she would come in January. She said, ‘I’ll do it, period.’ The fact is, she was very clear. She did not hesitate for one second.”
Finally we can get to the bottom of what happened at Benghazi. Good on Hillary for giving up her Presidential bid to finally let the truth come out.

LOL, because most certainly the Clinton are well know as people who value honesty and integrity above all else :umad
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Certainly more integrity than the making shit upreporting from certain news outlets. My father in law, who is an avid fox news watcher, already said he can't vote for Hillary because of Benghazi. His mind won't be changed by this either.
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Certainly more integrity than the making shit upreporting from certain news outlets. My father in law, who is an avid fox news watcher, already said he can't vote for Hillary because of Benghazi. His mind won't be changed by this either.

The Clinton's are the Fox News of politics.

For the record the Bush's are more like the cartoon network.
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Andrew Sullivan is quitting blogging; 9% less hand-wringing on the internet expected as a result

http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2015/01/28/a-note-to-my-readers/
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Another concern I have with the study is that it will be used to make poor policy prescriptions in the future.
I think we need a study before we can be sure.

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Can't wait for the next bombshell study that shows people dealing with SNAP cuts are better fed and healthier.
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Conservative internet warriors are going to be insufferable from here on out, thanks to a study that purports to show that 60% of the jobs created in 2014 were due to the expiration of unemployment benefits motivating people to get off their asses.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/01/27/a-new-study-argues-cutting-unemployment-benefits-created-1-8-million-jobs/

This link's for you:

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/01/28/right-wing-media-use-flawed-study-to-attack-une/202312
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In a surprised turn of events, Mitt flip flops and is not running in 2016.  :omg
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Can't wait until Jebya starts to falter and then Romney has a heartfelt conversation with Ann and God and decides to run again.
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1. Why can't they identify Stacey Dash instead of "Fox Panelist."

2. KEVIN SORBO KEVIN SORBO KEVIN SORBO KEVIN SORBO KEVIN SORBO KEVIN SORBO KEVIN SORBO KEVIN SORBO KEVIN SORBO KEVIN SORBO

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i kind of respect Romney for telling press that Battlefield Earth was his favorite book tho
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I'd like to hear his thoughts on the film.

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Romney's 1-dimensional chess, breh.
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My sister still hasn't forgiven Kevin Sorbo for post-S1 Andromeda.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/01/opinion/sunday/retroactively-authorizing-war.html
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They went largely unnoticed, four words President Obama ad-libbed during the State of the Union address last month as he asked lawmakers to provide legal cover for America’s military intervention in Iraq and Syria.

“We need that authority,” the president said, adding a line to the prepared remarks on his teleprompter that seemed to acknowledge a reality about which his administration has been inexcusably dishonest.

As the new Congress gets settled in, the debate over the scope and legal authority of Washington’s new war in the Middle East has resurfaced amid strikingly disparate views. The White House is consulting with lawmakers from both parties on the parameters that would retroactively establish ground rules for the bombing campaign against Islamic State militants in Iraq and Syria that began in September.

That task has become more complicated by irresponsible calls from some lawmakers, and the nation’s top military officer, for an expansive mandate that would leave this president, and his successors, with dangerously broad authority to use military force in perpetuity.

The Islamic State, a barbaric militant group that seeks to establish a caliphate, poses a dire threat to the United States and its allies that will take a long time, and significant resources, to fight. But the group, also known as ISIL and ISIS, cannot serve as a pretext to give the executive branch what amounts to a blank check to battle an ever-shifting array of enemies around the globe.

By failing to replace the sweeping war authorizations Congress established for the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan more than a decade ago, with a far narrower mandate, lawmakers are abdicating one of their most consequential constitutional powers: the authority to declare war. White House officials maintain that the current campaign in Iraq and Syria is legal under the Afghan and Iraq war resolutions, a dubious argument considering those were tailored to respond to the Sept. 11 attacks and to deal with Saddam Hussein, then the Iraqi leader, on the grounds — since proved to be false — that he had weapons of mass destruction.

While President Obama has called on Congress to draft a new authorization for the use of military force, the White House has yet to lay out a specific blueprint that could serve as a starting point for negotiations on Capitol Hill.

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Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, indicated in an interview that he was pushing for a timeless war authorization. “All options should be on the table, and then we can debate whether we want to use them,” he told the Pentagon’s news service on Jan. 23.

Prominent Republicans in recent days have called for an even more robust campaign. Senator John McCain of Arizona, the new chairman of the Armed Services Committee, recently said that “American boots on the ground are necessary to defeat” the Islamic State. He also called for the establishment of a no-flight zone in Syria and more support for so-called moderate rebels. His position would not seem as ill-advised if the painful lessons of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan weren’t as raw.

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My sister still hasn't forgiven Kevin Sorbo for post-S1 Andromeda.

As I haven't for post- S4 Hercules.  :ufup

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I'm going to start getting involved in politics and going to my city's democratic party meetings.  However my city is super red republican so I wonder how that is going to play out.  It makes more sense to network with the republican party since they have all the power, but I think I would die inside being at their events :\

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Outside of SNA or ANA, getting involved in an OC Democratic Party organization is about as meaningful as asking questions in a letter.

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The truth is that the first socialist revolutions—in the Soviet Union from 1917 until the defeat of that revolution in 1956, and in China from 1949 until the defeat of socialism in 1976—marked a break-through for humanity. These were the first attempts in modern history to build societies free from exploitation and oppression. And they accomplished extraordinary things against enormous obstacles.

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http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/mike-huckabee-on-old-anti-dance-column-at-least-i-wasnt-in-t#.heX9NZOV
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Speaking with the Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins on his radio program, Washington Watch, Huckabee discussed the columns at length, saying he found it funny the anecdotes from his past showed him to be a devote Christian while other potential Republican rivals were admitting past drug and alcohol use.

“It’s a column that I wrote for the Baptist Trumpet newspaper. It was actually even before I went to college, I was writing it when I was a senior in high school. I was 17 years old and I wrote this weekly column in the newspaper and it was sort of an advice column for teenagers who were believers,” said Huckabee.

The former Arkansas governor added the title of the column, “RAPture Express,” came from combining rap and the rapture.

“So the term the ‘Rapture Express’ came from the very popular term in the 70’s for ‘rap,’ meaning to converse and of course rapture was something we were all talking about in the 70s. So much talking about the second coming. But anyway, I did this so, BuzzFeed, I don’t know how they got em’, I’m not sure, don’t really care, but they found sets, a whole selection of the columns I wrote, on which I discussed things like dating, dancing, smoking, I mean all sorts of issues that would be relevant to a 1973 teenager. Cause that’s when it was, 1973. I was 17.”

Huckabee said he found it funny people were focusing on his old columns, specifically one in which he wrote Christians shouldn’t dance, when at the same time other potential Republican candidates were addressing past drug use and drinking.

“Well it was basically like—you know—I couldn’t say that it was prohibited but I wasn’t sure that it was good for a person’s witness. Anyway, the funniest thing, I mean, I read this and I laughed out loud and I said, while other candidates are being outed for their teenage drug use, their teenage alcohol use, their teenage partying hard, doing all sorts of destructive things like painting graffiti on bridges. The scandal with me is that I wrote a column at age 17 telling Christian young people to live a godly life. So, I mean, I just had to say, is this really controversial? I’d much rather have to defend this than say, yes, I used to regularly be apart of the choom gang. It’s just bizarre.”

Huckabee said BuzzFeed News’ story showed “how contemptuous the left really is toward believers.”

“I just wish that I can grow as much hair now Tony, I really do. Now I’ve been made fun of by my own family because of the sideburns. But I tell them, I say, ‘hey, it was 1973, what do you think I’m going to look like?’ Thank goodness they didn’t have the bell bottom pants to show those as well. I just find that its amazing, but it shows though how contemptuous the left really is toward believers. They truly think that we are just laughable for the beliefs we hold. Rather than let get me down and make me all depressed, I just take it as, wow, the worst thing they can say about us is that we truly believe that the scripture teaches us to live a circumspect life, okay well you got me, I plead guilty, and we’ll find something else to be upset about. “

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On dancing: “I strongly recommend that Christian teens stay away from dancing, mainly because some people would just not be able to respect a person who attended dances.”

On soap operas, Huckabee says, “I literally hate them!” He suggests watching soap operas make adultery, lying, divorce, murder, hating, and stealing seem routine and normal to people. He writes that “studies” link soap operas to liberal views.

In a dating column, Huckabee advises his readers to date other Christians and not “lost people,” although he says his readers should still associate with them.

Huckabee also advises teens to date a fellow Christian who does not swear or drink excessively: “If the person isn’t the type you’d feel comfortable talking about Jesus with then I recommend you don’t date that person.”

After a letter to the editor accused Huckabee of having “straddled a fence” in his column about dancing, he praises looking at both sides of an argument: “I don’t want other young people to stay away from dances just because I do.”

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The RAPture Express was a groove train to Funky Town, where DJ Huckmaster helped all the cats out there get down with the Lord, do you dig it?
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It's been 40 years since and still no rapture, yet it's contemptuous of "the left" of how they "treat" believers. It's not contempt, breh. It's pity.
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These people seriously think they can exact massive concessions from Obama if King v Burwell ends up with the federal exchange subisidies being ruled illegal.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/scott-gottlieb-and-tevi-troy-how-not-to-bungle-an-obamacare-opening-1423179495?mod=hp_opinion

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If the plaintiffs prevail, President Obama would undoubtedly blame Republicans for “taking away” the subsidies. And GOP governors might cave to political pressure and create state exchanges they had previously rejected. To avoid this outcome, ObamaCare’s congressional critics need to come up with an alternative that’s ready to go if the Supreme Court’s ruling goes their way. That means a plan that can pass Congress and leave the president hard pressed to veto.

Unless Republicans advance reforms that provide some immediate relief, start to turn ObamaCare in a market-based direction, and leave Mr. Obama in a political bind, the GOP will be blamed unfairly for customers facing premium-induced pain.

Bolded for comedic levels of delusion.

Yes, the 35-40% of avid Fox News viewers out there will go along with the party line. Everywhere else, the optics on this are going to be disastrous for Republicans. They filed a lawsuit to take premium subsidies away from millions of people; of course they're going to get blamed if it happens.

And who do they really think will be in an easier position? Obama, who just has to repeatedly get on the bully pulpit and demand that Republicans pass a simple (probably 4 word) fix? Or Republicans, who will have to explain how Obama is really the one taking away healthcare from millions because he won't give them X, Y and Z demands after the lawsuit they filed? Again, the rabid Fox News base will buy that argument, but I don't see it playing well with moderates.

This lawsuit could be a Pandora's Box for Republicans.


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It's been 40 years since and still no rapture, yet it's contemptuous of "the left" of how they "treat" believers. It's not contempt, breh. It's pity.

"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions."

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I posted a clip from this debate in the religion/spirituality thread but this was my second favorite part because Del Harris here annihilates forever all those murderous atheists with real voice quivering passion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XHv7IQCg-w#t=1h40m40s
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http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2015/02/05/woman-accused-killing-slow-cooker-court/22925379/
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Livonia — A Detroit woman was ordered Thursday to stand trial in the killing of her friend beaten with a slow cooker after the two argued about politics.

Tewana Sullivan, 50, who is charged with murder, cried at her preliminary hearing as she heard graphic details about the fatal Oct. 22 assault on Cheryl Livy, 66, with a kitchen appliance.

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Livy was discovered barely breathing with the cord of the "busted" slow cooker around her neck in her apartment around 10:45 p.m. at the McNamara Towers senior housing complex in the 19300 block of Purlingbrook, officer Thomas Blauvelt testified.

Blauvelt said he found "blood all over the walls, all over the floor, all over the victim."

"The Crockpot is busted over her head with the cord around her throat. She was barely breathing," he said.

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Defense attorney John McWilliams said the two women had argued over "presidential politics."

"Whatever the controversy is between Democrats and Republicans," he said.
I'm glad to see that in the comments of every story on this nobody has rushed to judgement about which party was who.

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The most important thing to remember here is that it was a recipe for disaster.

Kara

  • It was all going to be very admirable and noble and it would show us - philosophically - what it means to be human.
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I posted a clip from this debate in the religion/spirituality thread but this was my second favorite part because Del Harris here annihilates forever all those murderous atheists with real voice quivering passion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XHv7IQCg-w#t=1h40m40s

I always knew Koba was taking the fall for Leon. Now I have incontrovertible proof.

benjipwns

  • your bright ideas always burn me
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In an interview last month with Lars Larson, National Rifle Association board member Ted Nugent blamed President Obama’s election on people who forgot that “Martin Luther King died so that we would someday judge by content of character instead of color of skin.” It seems that Americans missed out on voting for a true American hero: Sarah Palin.

“She is my hero,” Nugent said of the former half-term Alaska governor. “Sarah Palin is the perfect example of what our Founding Fathers envisioned for an experiment in self-government.”

Nugent was especially impressed by Palin’s decision to resign midway through her first term as governor: “She quit because the left hate machine was so overwhelming her with frivolous litigation that she did the most courageous thing in the world and she handed her governor duties to the lieutenant governor while she was taking on this hate onslaught of the left so that Alaska would be properly served by someone who could pay attention to the responsibilities of the office of government while she was fighting off the leftist mongrels. She’s my hero.”

After plugging Palin’s new TV show, Nugent gushed that she is “an amazing American and she brings forth so much good that the general media would not bring forth, she’s a reminder that the heart and soul of working-hard, playing-hard, being-the-best-that-you-can-be America is alive and well.”

Phoenix Dark

  • I got no game it's just some bitches understand my story
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Kinda want to make a thread. Barry doesn't give a fuck. Been net neutrality and this, doing is going ham.
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