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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8160 on: March 03, 2015, 12:57:42 PM »
I'm curious when the big break with the Israel Right and American Jews is coming?  The older generation is dying off and no one I know has anything but contempt for Netanyahu and folks like him.

I think this was a last ditch effort. But I concur, the relationship is soundly broken and both sides are to blame. One doesn't give a fuck and the other won't stop believing this is the 1960's.
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« Reply #8161 on: March 03, 2015, 01:00:29 PM »
It must be very weird for older Israeli politicians to know that the support for Israel in America no longer solidly from American Jews but a grab bag of Arab Haters and Christian Eschatologists.
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« Reply #8162 on: March 03, 2015, 01:03:35 PM »
It must be very weird for older Israeli politicians to know that the support for Israel in America no longer solidly from American Jews but a grab bag of Arab Haters and Christian Eschatologists.

I think as long as the money comes, they don't care who delivers the bag. I have an assorted amount of friends on both sides of the "line" and I grow tired of hearing the bullshit.

"Kids don't care"
"Why are we still aggressive?"
"Iran is full of devils"
"Iran should be dealt with by sanctions or negotiation"

Being in business has given me the pleasure/curse of dealing with high level offenders on both sides. I haven't seen anything this bad since the tear in our own country when Bush essentially smacked Iraq in a blind fury, and that wound still bleeds.
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« Reply #8163 on: March 03, 2015, 02:07:26 PM »
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« Reply #8164 on: March 03, 2015, 02:09:04 PM »
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This person has been murdered in the digital realm

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Who got popped? Guess if it's me I'll never know :yeshrug
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« Reply #8165 on: March 03, 2015, 02:17:40 PM »
Digital hate crimes :(
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« Reply #8166 on: March 03, 2015, 02:18:52 PM »
Digital hate crimes :(

I don't think I've ever used an ignore function on GAF or here. Seems pretty silly.
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« Reply #8167 on: March 03, 2015, 02:20:19 PM »
It must be very weird for older Israeli politicians to know that the support for Israel in America no longer solidly from American Jews but a grab bag of Arab Haters and Christian Eschatologists.

Like they didn't know where some of their bread was buttered in the first place.

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It's been spread thick by god fearing southern conservatives since I was a small child. the enemy of my enemy is my homeboy and such.
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« Reply #8168 on: March 03, 2015, 02:44:56 PM »
No thank you.  I'd rather continue pointing out why you're wrong.

You've been factually incorrect about multiple legal doctrines and don't seem to have a grasp of how policy is written or the fact that muddy text happens all the time.

You're more out of your depth here than I'd be trying to score a touchdown on AIA in his prime.

Applying interpretation to the written word is the job of our judicial system (and Valarai apparently), can't argue that. What I can say is that the person figuratively standing over them telling them how to do so is frightening.

TBH if you want to be something more than the professional equivalent of a copy editor or a hall monitor in corporate tax you have to show someone who calls shots that you're willing to find aggressive positions for the client.

I don't really have a preference between those three options but I'm a novelty addict so I inadvertently stumble across legal realities that are logically impossible.

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« Reply #8169 on: March 03, 2015, 03:09:01 PM »
BB was right about Iraq. We should trust what he says about Iran.
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« Reply #8170 on: March 04, 2015, 03:29:56 AM »
Don't worry, the government will go on imprisoning and killing millions, mostly minorities, for selling goods it doesn't want sold; torturing and bombing people who should have had "more responsible fathers" and not been of a certain age in certain countries at a certain time; engaged in full scale looting of the populace to support and prop up a public and private elite's lifestyle bubble hoping it doesn't pop; have a record of actual atrocities like internment and imprisoning people opposing slavery; mistreat millions because they want to make a living helping us; run a corrupt two tier justice system; and eventually implement nationalized health insurance, no matter how the Supreme Court rules in this case.

We'll be fine.

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« Reply #8171 on: March 04, 2015, 03:43:57 AM »
We jumped the shark around 1861, went into syndication in the 1910s, and got resurrected on Netflix in the 1980s.

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« Reply #8172 on: March 04, 2015, 03:59:32 AM »
I thought 1861 was a great twist even though they had foreshadowed it for too long. And after 1865 it really went down hill and they never really resolved any of the plot threads to any satisfaction.

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« Reply #8173 on: March 04, 2015, 07:55:50 AM »
You guys are going to love this one, so I'll just leave it here:


http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/04/politics/ben-carson-prisons-gay-choice/index.html


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Headline should have said "How you get yourself eliminated before you ever had a chance, you homo"

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« Reply #8174 on: March 04, 2015, 07:56:52 AM »
http://info.umkc.edu/news/umkcs-stephanie-kelton-named-chief-economist/
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Stephanie Kelton, associate professor and chair of the Economics Department  at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, has been named the chief economist for the Democrats on the Senate Budget Committee in Washington. Each party has its own chief economist on the budget panel, which among other things oversees the Congressional Budget Office

“I’m delighted to have been asked to serve in this important position,” Kelton said. “As Chief Economist on the Democratic staff, I’ll be working with ranking member Sen. (Bernie) Sanders to secure a federal budget that expands Social Security, makes college more affordable and creates millions of jobs though much-needed investments in our nation’s infrastructure.”

Kelton has been at UMKC since 1999 and chair of the Economics Department since August 2012. Her research interests are modern monetary theory, employment policy, history of economic monetary thought, social security and European integration. Kelton assumed the new position on Jan. 5 and will be on a leave of absence from UMKC to work in Washington. Arrangements for her UMKC appointment are pending.

“We congratulate Stephanie on this appointment. It is indicative of the national and international significance of the work being done by Stephanie and her colleagues in our Economics department, and we wish her the best as she takes on this role,” said Wayne Vaught, Ph.D., dean, UMKC College of Arts and Sciences.

Kelton is a founder of the widely-read blog New Economic Perspectives, which is one of the leading voices for Modern Monetary Theory, also known as “The Kansas City Approach.” The blog states that the theory “builds on the work of Abba P. Lerner, John Maynard Keynes, Hyman P. Minsky, Wynne Godley and other important figures of the past. Above all, we are careful to provide analyses and policy recommendations that are applicable under a modern, fiat money system.”

The business news website MarketWatch reported: “Sanders has hired as minority chief economist one of the top proponents of Modern Monetary Theory, a post-Keynesian school of economics with some heretical views on the nature of money and the role of government finance.

“Stephanie Kelton is taking a leave of absence from the University of Missouri at Kansas City, where she chairs a department that has become a bastion of MMT, to supply some theoretical firepower for Sanders’ agenda on the committee … For Kelton and other MMT theorists, balanced budgets or budget surpluses can be harmful because they are necessarily balanced by deficits in the private sector. By the same token, government deficits are necessary and beneficial not only during downturns when they take up the slack from insufficient consumer demand but also in boom times because government deficit spending fuels a private-sector surplus.”

Guess I was scooped by Vox: http://www.vox.com/2015/1/10/7521819/sanders-mmt-kelton
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Galbraith told me that when, on a panel for an April 2000 event at the White House, he argued that the US's new budget surplus would harm the economy, the hundreds of economists in attendance laughed in his face. That's all changed. The financial crisis created a huge appetite for new economic thinking, and MMT helped meet it. Now, people like Krugman are expected to at least grapple with its claims. Kelton's elevation to the budget committee is another important step in mainstreaming the theory, and making it safe for left-wing Democrats to embrace.

This is however all worth it for this awesome picture of Bernie Sanders:

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« Reply #8175 on: March 04, 2015, 08:00:08 AM »
Meh, I still don't think paying a dude dropping fries 15.00 an hour solves anything. It also will eliminate the taco bell dollar menu. Against.
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« Reply #8177 on: March 04, 2015, 09:52:06 AM »
I bashed that on GAF the other day. He's so historically ignorant that it's painful, he did literally no research and then wrote 5000+ words on who knows what because the first half of the piece seems to contradict the second half and both seem to contradict the conclusion.

My favorite part was the Japan loving. For supposedly being an example of an ideal system we constructed without the flaws he was whining about.

A system where business and government were entirely integrated with a single party running the nation for basically 60 years, and still had 43 Governments under 25 Prime Ministers.


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« Reply #8178 on: March 04, 2015, 10:20:10 AM »
This is however all worth it for this awesome picture of Bernie Sanders:
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« Reply #8179 on: March 04, 2015, 11:05:40 AM »
At work today, I was told that Bibi's speech was one of the greatest speeches in American history. This person really hates Muslims, btw.
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« Reply #8180 on: March 04, 2015, 11:08:13 AM »
At work today, I was told that Bibi's speech was one of the greatest speeches in American history. This person really hates Muslims, btw.

Taken on it's own it was a great speech. Unsure how you can debate that point.

The context though? Up to you to decide.
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« Reply #8181 on: March 04, 2015, 11:13:39 AM »
At work today, I was told that Bibi's speech was one of the greatest speeches in American history. This person really hates Muslims, btw.

Taken on it's own it was a great speech. Unsure how you can debate that point.

The context though? Up to you to decide.

He didn't  just say it was a great speech, he literally said it was one of the greatest speeches in American history.
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« Reply #8182 on: March 04, 2015, 11:14:43 AM »
At work today, I was told that Bibi's speech was one of the greatest speeches in American history. This person really hates Muslims, btw.

Taken on it's own it was a great speech. Unsure how you can debate that point.

The context though? Up to you to decide.

He didn't  just say it was a great speech, he literally said it was one of the greatest speeches in American history.

uh, then he's fucked. It was a great speech but by no means should it be considered anywhere near the level of I have a Dream or anything.
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« Reply #8183 on: March 04, 2015, 11:25:36 AM »
I thought 1861 was a great twist even though they had foreshadowed it for too long. And after 1865 it really went down hill and they never really resolved any of the plot threads to any satisfaction.

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I read that Yglesias piece after the one analyzing the application of a comprehensive economic program from a TV show to irl.

This was my first, and last, time reading Vox.

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« Reply #8184 on: March 04, 2015, 11:28:01 AM »
Uhh the 2000 surplus didn't harm the economy. A huge unpaid tax cut, two unpaid for wars, and Clinton era deregulation harmed the economy.
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« Reply #8185 on: March 04, 2015, 11:51:14 AM »
Uhh the 2000 surplus didn't harm the economy.
Leaving aside the fact there was no surplus, MMT is based on an equation that says if there is a "surplus" in government, there's a "deficit" and thus recession in the economy. So if there's always government deficits, there's always a "surplus" in the economy and thus private savings.

This is it. This is the entire theory. No other factors matter except that (G - T) = (S - I) because the equation is literally and always true based on their definitions of these terms.

If you mow my lawn for $100 but say I can pay you in a year, MMT says the net is zero. Because your savings increased by $100 and mine fell by $100. Even though I got your labor and a year with the $100, you got an IOU which is "worth" $100.

If when you get that $100 you spend $50 of it and bury $50 in your backyard, you've invested $100 and saved zero dollars because that $100 still "exists" and everything has to zero out.

Somebody called it accounting masquerading as economics.


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This is better than most things ever in the world, Abba Lerner's attempt to set up price controls under his Chartalist proto-MMT:
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Initially he toyed with various administrative wage and price control policies, but he found those lacking and soon gave them up. He replaced them, first, with a tax based incomes policy and ultimately, a market based incomes policy in which property rights in prices are set and individuals have to buy the right to change prices from others who change their price in the opposite direction. It was this idea that formed the basis of our market anti inflation (MAP) book. (Lerner and Colander 1980) Under MAP, rights in value added prices would be tradable so that any firm wanting to change its nominal price would have to make a trade with another firm that wanted to change its nominal price in the opposite direction. Thus, by law, the average price level would be constant but relative prices would be free to change.
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« Reply #8186 on: March 04, 2015, 12:29:15 PM »
I like the "radio pundit" and such when it's a podcast with 500 followers. It does have compelling content though:
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Tonight we'll talk with Alan Jones of 1776 Channel news site, who today broke a story that revealed the stunning CIA-backed nexus between Hawaii's Health Director Dr. Alvin Onaka, Eleanor Nordyke (mother of twins born in Kapiolani Hospital the day before Obama was) and Stanley Ann Dunham. 

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« Reply #8187 on: March 04, 2015, 12:34:39 PM »
Fair question though.

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« Reply #8188 on: March 04, 2015, 12:38:49 PM »
Fair question though.

it's not really though lol, the characterization of our borders as 'open' is :what and vaccine fears are the reason to blame for resurgent diseases.

I was being sarcastic, sorry :yeshrug


And yet the anti-vaccine idiots are the root cause, of course.
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« Reply #8189 on: March 04, 2015, 12:40:12 PM »
Our borders are as open to Canada as they are to Mexico.
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« Reply #8190 on: March 04, 2015, 12:46:50 PM »
Our borders are as open to Canada as they are to Mexico.

That's strictly for the Horton's though   :lawd
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« Reply #8191 on: March 04, 2015, 12:52:09 PM »
I thought the one disease case was a group of Guatemalans.

Even Mexicans hate them.

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« Reply #8192 on: March 04, 2015, 01:10:46 PM »
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jennifer-rubin-rand-paul-clapping-netanyahu
:heh

Jennifer Rubin is legit one of the dumbest "serious" blogger/talking heads in media. Everyone should follow her. The spin she provided Romney and various other "serious" losing republican candidates in 2012 was hilarious.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/post/july-panic-for-obama--for-good-reason/2012/07/15/gJQARQFXmW_blog.html
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That noted 100mil on advertising is the same 100mil that buried Romney, btw.
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« Reply #8193 on: March 04, 2015, 02:12:10 PM »
Abba Lerner. :heh I've spent too long in the vanguard and forgotten how hilary market socialists can get.

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« Reply #8194 on: March 04, 2015, 02:17:42 PM »
On the plus side, benji, we can be hipster economists now that Chartalism is going lamestream. :smug

:bow classical economics :bow2 it never goes out of style.


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« Reply #8195 on: March 04, 2015, 02:20:59 PM »
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Michael Carvin, the attorney arguing on behalf of the plaintiffs in the King v. Burwell case, said this challenge is different because the argument against the law centers on a statute that was "written by white women and minorities."

Carvin's comments were published in a Wall Street Journal profile of him on Tuesday, a day before oral arguments began in the King v. Burwell lawsuit.

Carvin argued that the difference between this lawsuit and the one in 2012 is that unlike the 2012 challenge, the argument on Wednesday is on "a statute that was written three years ago, not by dead white men but by living white women and minorities."

"It hasn't had time to 'grow' or 'evolve,'" Carvin added, a jab that mocks terms liberals have used for constitutional doctrines that conservatives have argued aren't supported by the Constitution.

Carvin actually cited Atticus Finch of "To Kill A Mocking Bird" as an inspiration for his fight to overturn the law, according to the Journal profile. Finch was the lawyer who defended a black man who was charged with raping a white woman.

In an interview with TPM in September 2014, Carvin repeatedly suggested that it didn't matter what Obama-appointed judges thought of Obamacare.

"I don't know that four justices, who are needed to [take the case] here, are going to give much of a damn about what a bunch of Obama appointees on the D.C. Circuit think," Carvin said.

In the same interview, he added that he didn't expect to lose Republican-appointed judges in arguing against Obamacare.

"There's plenty of cases where [Supreme Court justices] take important issues even if there's no circuit split — like the gay marriage cases, they might take those," Carvin said. "If you've gone through that process and you don't really care what [the Obama-appointed judges] think — because I'm not going to lose any Republican-appointed judges' votes on the en banc — then I think the calculus would be, well let's take it now and get it resolved."

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« Reply #8196 on: March 04, 2015, 03:44:27 PM »
I don't follow Rubin. Megan McArdle is my hack of choice, although she does occasionally knock one out of the park. Peggy Noonan is another great one; it's like you took someone's Midwestern aunt who maybe finished a liberal arts degree back in the 70s, and tasked her with writing super serious foreign and domestic policy articles.

Other great hacks?

Edit: Carvin is such a tool. He's right: it was written in very recent memory. Which is why the question of "intent" is absurd, as there are hundreds of legislators and staffers who have unanimously told us what the intent was.

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« Reply #8197 on: March 04, 2015, 04:26:41 PM »
Megan McArdle is never topping her full blown panic blogging during the fall of 2008 when the banks were going down, she was making like fifteen entries a day coming close to swearing off her soft-libertarianism and embracing crony capitalism and nationalized banks.

Because, and this was her explicit argument after enough hysteria, her friends who worked on Wall Street might be losing their jobs.

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« Reply #8198 on: March 04, 2015, 04:29:09 PM »
She's a fucking toolshed. Any publication that employs her loses legitimacy.
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« Reply #8199 on: March 04, 2015, 04:30:35 PM »
On the plus side, benji, we can be hipster economists now that Chartalism is going lamestream. :smug

:bow classical economics :bow2 it never goes out of style.
I'm rebooting Physiocracy, maybe throw in some neo Marxist class struggle (but not too much class struggle, we wouldn't want to upset the capitalists) horseshit to polish off the edges and update it.

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« Reply #8200 on: March 04, 2015, 05:15:08 PM »
So you want to be David Ricardo? :trollbron

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« Reply #8201 on: March 04, 2015, 06:04:51 PM »
Our borders are as open to Canada as they are to Mexico.

That's strictly for the Horton's though   :lawd

Proper shortening is to just say "Tim's", or "Timmie's".  Nobody calls it "Horton's" lol :P
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« Reply #8202 on: March 04, 2015, 06:44:52 PM »
I bashed that on GAF the other day. He's so historically ignorant that it's painful, he did literally no research and then wrote 5000+ words on who knows what because the first half of the piece seems to contradict the second half and both seem to contradict the conclusion.

My favorite part was the Japan loving. For supposedly being an example of an ideal system we constructed without the flaws he was whining about.

A system where business and government were entirely integrated with a single party running the nation for basically 60 years, and still had 43 Governments under 25 Prime Ministers.
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‘Dat Prime Minister turnover...

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« Reply #8203 on: March 04, 2015, 09:44:35 PM »
I think people are reading too much into it. The last time the ACA was at the SC there were days where the challenger had good days, and days where the government had good ones; there were days where the government got riddled with questions and looked bad. Today was that day for Carvin. At one point Roberts made fun of him for losing the last ACA case he argued.
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« Reply #8204 on: March 04, 2015, 11:02:05 PM »
Is that gif a welfare queen reference?
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« Reply #8205 on: March 05, 2015, 08:02:39 AM »
Our borders are as open to Canada as they are to Mexico.

That's strictly for the Horton's though   :lawd

Proper shortening is to just say "Tim's", or "Timmie's".  Nobody calls it "Horton's" lol :P

:yeshrug

Sorry I'm not up on my canadian acronyms.
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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8206 on: March 05, 2015, 12:15:27 PM »
You guys are going to love this one, so I'll just leave it here:


http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/04/politics/ben-carson-prisons-gay-choice/index.html


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Headline should have said "How you get yourself eliminated before you ever had a chance, you homo"

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/04/politics/ben-carson-prisons-gay-choice/index.html

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In a radio interview with Sean Hannity, Carson then said he won't be talking about gay rights anymore "because every time I'm gaining momentum, the liberal press says, let's talk about gay rights -- and I'm just not going to fall for that anymore."

Tricksy liberals, they have more gotcha questions up their sleeves, like voting rights and which side do you think should have won the Civil War.  :teehee
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Am_I_Anonymous

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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8207 on: March 05, 2015, 12:16:17 PM »
I mean good lord can he make us look any worse? Fuck.
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Am_I_Anonymous

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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8208 on: March 05, 2015, 12:22:28 PM »
Is that gif a welfare queen reference?
 :oreilly


Wrong thread breh, sorry. Was gonna post it in outside links.

Anyway Ben Carson is an accomplished guy for sure but seems politically naive and has a lot of gumption to just go ahead and run for president. Not even gonna shoot for the house or senate or something breh? You just gonna try and be president?  Ok...

The top of our food chain really thinks we need a counter to Obama and fumbled fucked on Carson. He has all the cash backing him in the world and none of the ability to actually get elected. Story of our party.

I would like to say, unabashedly, that if I ever am in a position to run for president I would never fucks with Fox news. Ever. 
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Am_I_Anonymous

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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8209 on: March 05, 2015, 12:34:03 PM »
You could be that dude, AIA.

Start with an Ohio state legislature seat, then a Congressional seat if one opens up, then boom.

Moderate Republican's don't sell yet my man. But maybe when I'm in my 50's we'll put down the bible and stop bashing homosexuals and start focusing on shit that matters...Money, Jobs, and infrastructure, or more specifically how to get the fed's hands off all three of these.
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benjipwns

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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8210 on: March 05, 2015, 05:05:14 PM »
I knew reparations were coming under this President, just never even thought about doing it this way:
Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, one of the chief architects of the anti-immigrant movement’s legal and legislative strategies, told a caller to his weekly radio program last week that while he thought it was “unlikely,” it would not be a “huge jump” to predict that the Obama administration could call an end to the prosecutions of African Americans for any crime. Claiming that “it’s already happened more or less in the case of civil rights laws,” Kobach told listeners that “I’ve learned to say with this president, never say never.”

Kobach was discussing the University of Minnesota’s decision to stop including race and other physical descriptions in email alerts of crimes on campus unless they have “sufficient detail that would help identify” a perpetrator, when a listener named Stu called in to share a theory.

“Given the situation in Minnesota, given the recent story that Obama was instructing immigration enforcement to not enforce the immigration laws against illegal aliens, I don’t think it’s too much of a stretch, Kris, to envision an announcement that any black person accused of a crime, charged with a crime, is not going to be prosecuted, regardless of the crime,” he said, adding that “we’ve already seen it from Eric Holder in his failure to prosecute the Black Panthers.”

Holder, Kobach agreed, “basically made it clear….that the civil rights laws were only to protect minority races, and he was not going to be enforcing them to the benefit of white people who were discriminated against on the basis of their race. So, that’s basically what you’ve described.”

“So the word is going to come down that there just won’t be any prosecutions of black criminals,” Stu predicted. “And I can see it happening. I don’t think I’m nuts for envisioning it.”

“Well, it’s already happened more or less in the case of civil rights laws,” Kobach responded. “So I guess it’s not a huge jump, I think it’s unlikely, but you know I’ve learned to say with this president, never say never.”

Kobach got national attention back in November when a caller presented the outlandish scenario that a Latino majority in the U.S. would embark on an “ethnic cleansing,” to which Kobach responded in a similar noncommittal way, saying that while he didn’t “think it’s going to happen in America,” under Obama “things are strange and they are happening.”

Kara

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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8211 on: March 05, 2015, 05:13:56 PM »
I'm so glad y'all get a taste of border state lunacacs now; I always felt like we were being selfish in hoarding them.

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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8212 on: March 05, 2015, 05:29:23 PM »
Here in Michigan we've always had a different type of border state lunacac.

And I'm proud to be one of them, those damned Canadian animals can hide among us! You have to get them to say certain words and the smart ones avoid it or have learned how to say it properly!

I just wish Michael Moore hadn't ruined his credibility by making all those satires after his documentary Canadian Bacon.

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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8213 on: March 05, 2015, 07:16:01 PM »
It must be very weird for older Israeli politicians to know that the support for Israel in America no longer solidly from American Jews but a grab bag of Arab Haters and Christian Eschatologists.

It's 2015, man.  Head is head.   :yeshrug
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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8214 on: March 05, 2015, 07:18:41 PM »
It must be very weird for older Israeli politicians to know that the support for Israel in America no longer solidly from American Jews but a grab bag of Arab Haters and Christian Eschatologists.

It's 2013, man.  Head is head.   :yeshrug
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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8215 on: March 05, 2015, 07:19:27 PM »
Our borders are as open to Canada as they are to Mexico.

That's strictly for the Horton's though   :lawd

Proper shortening is to just say "Tim's", or "Timmie's".  Nobody calls it "Horton's" lol :P

:yeshrug

Sorry I'm not up on my canadian acronyms.

Well now, that's what I'm here for.  :)
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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8216 on: March 05, 2015, 07:20:15 PM »
It must be very weird for older Israeli politicians to know that the support for Israel in America no longer solidly from American Jews but a grab bag of Arab Haters and Christian Eschatologists.

It's 2013, man.  Head is head.   :yeshrug

MANDARK!!!!!!!!!


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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8217 on: March 05, 2015, 07:21:31 PM »
:bow Mandark with dat entrance. :bow2

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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8218 on: March 05, 2015, 07:21:37 PM »
he's back :noah
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Re: Official Thread of American Politics - FCC rams ObamaNet down our throats!
« Reply #8219 on: March 05, 2015, 07:29:09 PM »
It must be very weird for older Israeli politicians to know that the support for Israel in America no longer solidly from American Jews but a grab bag of Arab Haters and Christian Eschatologists.

It's 2013, man.  Head is head.   :yeshrug

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