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If you're newly shaming the WSJ Op-Ed pages then get in line and enjoy the larff. Especially if it pertains to the Clintons.
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Demonize donation to a charity, brehs. Make it sound like all donations have a criminal intent or element.
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Sure am glad Murdoch bought our bourgeois paper of record. :aah

If only he'd buy Teh Ecconymist too, I'd love to see what he could do with a publication that staned for the Irish famine while it was a current event.

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If you're newly shaming the WSJ Op-Ed pages then get in line and enjoy the larff. Especially if it pertains to the Clintons.
I'm reasonably certain that if I look hard enough I can find a WSJ op-ed insinuating that Bill offed Vince Foster back in the day.

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“It’s not nation-building. We are assisting them in building their nation,” Rubio said of his vision for Iraq.

I'm not saying that Marco Rubio is dumb, I'm saying that dumb is a word that can assist in describing Marco Rubio.
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A conservative Christian straight ADF lawyer professor and minister was teaching a class on Jesus, a known prophet.

"Before the class begins, you must get on your knees and worship God and accept that he was the creator of this young world!"

At this moment, a brave, skeptical, pro-physician assisted suicide medical student who had performed 1500 abortions and understood the necessity of welfare and fully supported all scientific decision made by the Obama-appointed Surgeon General stood up and held up a rock.

"How old is this uranium-lead filled rock?"

The arrogant professor smugly replied "5,000 years, you stupid Atheist!"

"Wrong. It’s been 4.6 billion years since it was forged from a supernova. If it was 5,000 years old and creationism, as you say, is real… then radioactive dating should be saying that right now."

The professor was visibly shaken, and dropped his chalk and copy of the King James Bible. He stormed out of the room crying those conservative crocodile tears.

The students applauded and all registered Democrats that day and accepted reality and the scientific method. An eagle named "Socialism" flew into the room and perched atop the United Nations Flag and shed a tear on the chalk. The pledge of allegiance was omitted entirely, and Bernie Sanders himself showed up and enacted a massive progressive tax rate across the country.

The professor lost his tenure and was fired the next day.

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http://socialnewsdaily.com/52262/kingofinstagram-dan-bilzerian-is-running-for-president/
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Because of his lavish lifestyle, he reportedly suffered three heart attacks before the age of 32
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In December 2014, Bilzerian was embroiled in a legal matter with pornographic actress Janice Griffith, whom he threw off the roof of a house and into a pool as part of a photoshoot for Hustler magazine in April 2014. She fell short of the pool, hitting the edge, and broke her foot. Then 18-year-old Griffith asked Bilzerian for $85,000 for her injuries, which was rejected. Later Griffith filed a lawsuit against both Hustler and Bilzerian to which Bilzerian's attorney responded that Griffith was under contract for the event by Hustler, that Hustler hired Bilzerian for the event, and that Bilzerian was not at fault
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In August 2014, Bilzerian was banned from a Miami nightclub for kicking model Vanessa Castano in the face during a brawl. Bilzerian stated that Castano and another woman attacked Bilzerian's female companion. Castano stated, "There were two girls standing next to me at the table that were fighting. People started getting shoved and I tried to separate them. Then Dan pushed me both off the banquette and once I fell he kicked me in the face."
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On December 9, 2014, Bilzerian was arrested at Los Angeles International Airport on unrelated bomb-making charges

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WSWS :aah

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http://socialnewsdaily.com/52262/kingofinstagram-dan-bilzerian-is-running-for-president/
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Meh, Marquee. If he was having his campaign launch party at Verboten, on the other hand...
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The Supreme Court ruled Monday that the president alone has the power to recognize foreign nations, and it struck down as unconstitutional a congressional attempt to allow Americans born in Jerusalem to list Israel as their birthplace on passports.

President Obama and President George W. Bush had said the 2002 passport law embraces the interpretation that Jerusalem belongs to Israel, something the executive branch has long held should be settled by the parties in the Middle East. They refused to let the State Department honor such requests.

Finally a pretext for my aliyah besides, "I'm bored, I think I'll become a kibbutznik." :rejoice

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https://twitter.com/SenJohnThune/status/607990379619696640

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This from someone the media widely tried to portray as "a very serious person and potential presidential hopeful" for years on end, brehs

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Remember when SCOTUS struck down the VRA and Roberts said that he'd leave it to Congress to fix it.:lol
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The funny thing is that republicans aren't even pretending to come up with a fix or compromise, to give Roberts cover to shitcan the subsidies. I thought they'd trot out some quasi serious fix or solution, and pass it in the House. That way they could say "hey, we have a solution, we just need senate democrats to compromise and Obama to sign it." They can't even do that. I've read some reports that they plan on doing some type of extension past the 2016 election, to take the issue off the table. But nothing has materialized and now it's June...

Kind of makes me wonder whether SC Justice clerks leak info to Capitol Hill/the White House; iirc cases like this are settled long before the decision is publicly revealed. Maybe republican inaction is because they know the subsidies will be upheld?
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Kind of makes me wonder whether SC Justice clerks leak info to Capitol Hill/the White House; iirc cases like this are settled long before the decision is publicly revealed. Maybe republican inaction is because they know the subsidies will be upheld?

I've had the exact same thought but for the opposite reason- see so much gloom and doom among liberals, and there was a meeting like a week ago where Republicans were apparently scrambling to come up with something and were like "uh we're fucked"
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https://twitter.com/justinamash/status/608021434762280960
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Amash, my favorite local republican :hitler

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I've read that John Thune has some strange stuff in his closet though I can't imagine what it is. Dude is like a perfect Presidential candidate, but it'd come out. He adamantly refused to be considered for VP in 2008 and 2012. But as South Dakota Senator, who gives a fuck.

Kinda like Mitch Daniels and that weird affair with his wife.

Whatever happened to J.C. Watts? Or Harold Ford? Pre-Obama Obama's.

Speaking of oft-talked about contenders:

I should read this book.

Too bad about that foreign policy, she's socially libertarian, like a William Weld type. Also,


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http://thinkprogress.org/election/2015/06/08/3667026/wisconsin-voters-feel-screwed-new-voting-restrictions/

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MILWAUKEE, WISCONSIN — When Hillary Clinton issued a sweeping call for expanding and protecting voting rights, and called out Wisconsin and other states for passing discriminatory laws, Governor Scott Walker responded by blasting her views as “extreme” and “far outside the mainstream.” He defended his own record of cutting early voting days and implementing a strict voter ID law, saying these changes “make it easier to vote and harder to cheat.”
But at a workshop held in Milwaukee in early June, state government employees struggled to explain the byzantine voting restrictions to a crowd of poll workers and community activists.
Under Wisconsin’s voter ID law, which was blocked by courts until this March, you can vote with an expired military ID, but naturalization papers and student IDs must be current. Students must bring additional proof of enrollment, such as a class schedule. All Wisconsin residents can obtain a free state ID from any DMV, but only if they have no drivers license from any state. For 18-year-olds voting for the first time, a public high school ID counts, but a private one doesn’t. A bank statement can serve as proof of residence, but not a credit card statement.
“There are so many twists and turns. I hate it,” local organizer Denise Brown told ThinkProgress. “The people who passed these laws benefit from sowing confusion. They want people to get discouraged and stay home.”
Brown, who has volunteered for years registering voters in Milwaukee and the surrounding suburbs, said the provisions of the law seem to privilege some sectors of the population over others.
“Many lower-wage workers are not banked, and they’re counting on that,” Brown continued, referring to people who do not have any bank account. “Those people tend to vote more progressive, so they’re trying to eliminate them. It’s just wrong.”
Others at the workshop expressed concern about the state’s oldest voters, who no longer drive and may not have proper identifying documents.
“My grandmother was born in the South and not in a hospital,” asked one participant. “What should she do?”
Megan Wolf, who works for the Government Accountability Board (GAB) in Madison, answered that residents without birth certificates should bring any documents they have to the DMV, which has special investigators on hand. She listed marriage certificates, the death certificate of a relative, baptism papers and the birth certificate of the voter’s child as possible options.
“How does your child’s birth certificate prove when you were born?” asked one participant.

“What if someone with those other documents goes to the DMV a few weeks before the election?” asked another.
“They’re screwed,” grumbled a third.
As frustration in the room mounted, Wolf and her colleagues repeatedly reminded residents that they were not responsible for creating the law, only implementing it. And they’ve have had to do so with almost no resources.
Governor Scott Walker’s budget, which must pass in the next few weeks, includes almost no funding for the GAB to educate voters about the new requirements. The agency had estimated it would cost about $500,000 to inform the state’s millions of voters about the law, but they were given a only tiny fraction of that amount.
“We actually made a great ad campaign. We have catchy videos in English and Spanish. But we weren’t given any money to air them,” Wolf told ThinkProgress. “Our request for additional funding was denied.”

Due to the lack of funds, Wolf said she could only give workshops if communities self-organize and request one, as they did in Milwaukee. She also implored the attendees to widely share the PSAs they can’t afford to get on the radio or TV.
Former poll worker and local activist Solana Patterson-Ramos, who attended the event said she’s worried this approach will leave the vast majority of the state in the dark.
“It’s a law that will really disenfranchise if we’re not informed,” she said. “We already have a low voter turnout and this is going to harm it even more.”
While some voting rights advocates are focusing on education, others are turning to litigation. On June 1, Hillary Clinton’s top campaign lawyer joined with local civil rights groups in suing Wisconsin in federal court for the voting restrictions Governor Walker has signed into law over the past five years — including additional voter registration requirements, a rollback of early voting days, the allowance of “intrusive and intimidating” election monitoring, and the voter ID law.
One of the plaintiffs in that lawsuit is Anita Johnson with Citizen Action of Wisconsin, who said the effort was part of her group’s mission to “help people fight for justice.”
“This law was meant to disenfranchise people of color, poor people, people with disabilities, people without transportation,” she said. “It appears the people who put this law in place want to stay in power, and the only way they can stay in power is to make sure that only their people get to the polls.”
Speaking with ThinkProgress just before the voter ID workshop, Johnson expressed concern for voters in districts where getting an ID is even more difficult than in Milwaukee. In more than half of the state’s counties, the DMVs are only open two days a week and offer no after-work hours. And for the estimated hundreds of thousands of Wisconsinites who lack an ID, getting to those DMVs may be challenging in areas without reliable public transportation.
“This law is going to stop a lot of people from voting. They’re going to say, ‘I don’t feel like going through all of that,'” she predicted.
But for those willing to jump through the hoops, Johnson says Citizen Action will try to answer their questions, spread the word about the rules, and help those struggling to acquire the proper documents to make sure no one is disenfranchised in 2016.
“We are going to do everything in our power to make sure people go to the polls and vote,” she said. “Education is key. That’s why we started this crusade early, when there is no election on the horizon.”


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HAMLIN, Ia. – When just one Iowan showed up to Rick Santorum's 2 p.m. campaign stop at a restaurant here Monday, the winner of the 2012 Iowa caucuses made a quick decision: Might as well order lunch.

"I haven't eaten, actually, all day," he said to his guest, Peggy Toft, an insurance agent and chair of the county's Republican Party.

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"It's not glamorous, and you're not out there raising money, but you're doing what the money is ultimately supposed to do — getting votes," said Santorum, who earlier in the day drew 10 people to a noon meeting in nearby Panora. "This is a lot more fun than being on the phone raising money."

So in the middle of the workday in Hamlin, a township of under 300 people, Santorum said he saw one person as a good crowd.

"They're known for their breaded tenderloins, but there's a lot of good choices here," Toft told Santorum as he eyed the menu.

Another woman, one of four photographers in the room, recommended the rhubarb pie.

"Rhubarb pie? Are you a reporter here?" Santorum asked.

"Local reporter," she said, "and I work here part-time."

Santorum settled on the tenderloin with a side of onion rings. By the time they showed up, three more Iowans had entered the restaurant and found their way to his table.

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One newcomer, Glen Meyers, a minister from nearby Exira, asked Santorum for his thoughts on same-sex marriage. Santorum called it a threat not just to family but religious liberty

"This is where the left is saying, 'Here is what your belief system should be, and anyone who does not toe the line, you're a hater, you're a bigot, you're intolerant and you will not be tolerated,'" Santorum said.

The pastor seemed pleased with the response: "That was pretty good."

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Did they not have a Taco Bell? Americans want answers, Mr. Santorum.

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Voter ID laws are a pretty good way to figure out if someone is full of shit without talking to them for any amount of time.  That and mentioning "sharia law"
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If Scientology can hook Tom Cruise up with a beard, why can't the GOP do something for Lindsey Graham?
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Voter ID laws are a pretty good way to figure out if someone is full of shit without talking to them for any amount of time.  That and mentioning "sharia law"

My brother said this to me a few weeks ago: "I have no idea what Sharia law is, I just know that anybody who brings it up like it's a serious thing is an asshole."

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Just say, "I don't know anything about the rules of the street, sorry," when someone mentions Sharia. You might get a :comeon if there's an Arabic speaker in the house.

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Sharia Law is anything that allows a Muslim to feel like they're anything other than a third-class citizen in America.
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Per the IRS. (Subscribe to IRS newsletters brehs.)

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Individual Income Tax Returns, Preliminary Data, 2013: Preliminary data show that taxpayers filed nearly 148 million U.S. individual income tax returns for Tax Year 2013. While both adjusted gross income (AGI) and taxable income increased less than 1 percent from the previous year, total income tax rose 3.6 percent to $1.2 trillion and total tax liability increased 4.5 percent to $1.3 trillion. More than two-thirds of all taxpayers claimed the standard deduction, which accounted for 43 percent of total deductions. Total taxes and interest paid made up about 70 percent of all itemized deductions for the year.

A thing I've come around on after preparing high income taxpayer tax returns is the scam itemized deductions are. Phase out of home mortgage debt doesn't start until indebtedness hits one million dollars :drevil: and people wonder why the housing market is chronically short on supply of starter homes.

It's time cacs got off the government teat.

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Was just reading about JEB's tenure at the helm of the Great State of Florida and I came across this gem. I'd not heard this one before.

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Published: May 31, 2003
Gov. Jeb Bush signed a bill today repealing the state's ''Scarlet Letter'' law that required single women planning to put their infants up for adoption to first publish their sexual histories in a newspaper if they did not know the identity of the father.

A 2001 bill including a series of adoption-law revisions passed by large margins in the Florida House and Senate and became law when Mr. Bush declined to veto it, with the understanding that lawmakers would revise the publication section.

That provision was intended to notify fathers who might want to exercise their parental rights before an adoption occurred to reduce the likelihood of a custody challenge later.

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The Scarlet Letter law required women to run advertisements disclosing their names, ages, height, hair and eye color, race and weight as well as the child's name and birthplace and a description of the possible father.

It also required the women to provide details of the dates and places of sexual encounters that might have produced the child. Women were required to run the advertisements once a week for a month in the community where the child may have been conceived.

This shit, man. :neogaf
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2003, more like 1693.

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After the first line I figured it was a dead letter law from the 1880's or some shit.

A whole state legislature becoming a collective Florida Man.  Good job.

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2/3/01, men's bathroom at Stuckey's, third stall, didn't have any quarters for the condom machine, you said you'd call. :(
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Well, I guess the 15th time "training the Iraqi army" will really be the charm

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/11/world/middleeast/us-embracing-a-new-approach-on-battling-isis-in-iraq.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Heard that on BBC this morning. The Iraqi spokesman didn't seem to have much conviction that it would be successful. He did say that they needed to take a religious approach to the restructuring to combat the religious extremism of IS. Seems like a great plan.
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Did NPR host Diane Rehm just accuse Bernie Sanders of dual citizenship with Israel?
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On a Wednesday morning broadcast, longtime NPR host Diane Rehm interviewed presidential candidate and Senator Bernie Sanders (D-VT), and asked the Jewish self-described socialist some strange questions when it came to his connection with Israel.

Here’s the relevant exchange, which begins at about the 24-minute mark if you want to listen for yourself:

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Diane Rehm: Senator, you have dual citizenship with Israel.

Bernie Sanders: Well, no I do not have dual citizenship with Israel. I'm an American. I don't know where that question came from. I am an American citizen, and I have visited Israel on a couple of occasions. No, I'm an American citizen, period.

Rehm: I understand from a list we have gotten that you were on that list.

Sanders: No.

Rehm: Forgive me if that is—

Sanders: That's some of the nonsense that goes on in the internet. But that is absolutely not true.

Rehm: Interesting. Are there members of Congress who do have dual citizenship or is that part of the fable?

Sanders: I honestly don't know but I have read that on the internet. You know, my dad came to this country from Poland at the age of 17 without a nickel in his pocket. He loved this country. I am, you know, I got offended a little bit by that comment, and I know it's been on the internet. I am obviously an American citizen and I do not have any dual citizenship.

I'll seek comment from Diane Rehm on why she, or whoever prepared the interview, thought Sanders has Israeli citizenship. The question itself suggests that Rehm may have been trying to imply some type of dual loyalty on Sanders’s part.

A cursory search on Google of “Bernie Sanders Israeli citizenship” shows that his name comes up in the comments section of the “We are all Vittorio Arrigoni” Facebook page. Arrigoni was an Italian pro-Palestinian activist who was kidnapped and murdered by non-Hamas Islamists in Gaza in April 2011. In the comments section of the Facebook page, on May 2 a user posted a list of senators and representatives who “have both Israel and U.S. citizenships.” Sanders is on the list. No source is given because the list is a total fabrication, not to mention created by an anti-Semite and anti-person who believes in the development and protection of a Jewish nation, which is given away by the fact that it says “Jewish Lobby”, “#israelwarcrime”, “AIPAC: Buying Congress one seat at a time”, “Rothschild”, and features an American flag with a Star of David replacing the 50 stars.

If this is in fact the “list” that Rehm was referring to, it’s a remarkable feat of shoddy and lazy journalism.


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Diane Rehm sent the following statement:

"On today's show I made a mistake. Rather than asking Senator and Presidential Candidate Bernie Sanders whether he had dual U.S./Israeli citizenship, as I had read in a comment on Facebook, I stated it as fact.

He corrected me, saying he did not know where the question came from. I apologized immediately. 

I want to apologize as well to all our listeners for having made an erroneous statement. I am sorry for the mistake. However, I am glad to play a role in putting this rumor to rest."
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Abe Foxman, Anti-Defamation League national director, sent the following statement:

“Diane Rehm’s questions were inappropriate, insensitive questioning without any minimal journalistic checking of claims. Such a statement is not only factually incorrect, but has no place in such an interview.

“It is deeply troubling to think that a well-respected media outlet like NPR would apparently rely on unsubstantiated information from the Internet in its preparation for a guest.

“Ms. Rehm’s description and follow-up question about whether other Senators have dual citizenship with Israel play into classic anti-Semitic charges of dual loyalty. Such charges have been leveled for centuries and have been a catalyst for scapegoating and vilifying Jews.

“Senator Sanders deserves a public apology, as do NPR listeners.”

And after seeing Rehm's statement, he added:

“Her mistake was to not research it before she even stated it as fact.  She shouldn’t have asked the question, period.  Had she researched it, she wouldn’t have raised it at all.  Because her question challenges not only his loyalty, but also Jewish loyalties to this country.”

I'd never seen a picture of her before, she looks nothing like what I assumed from her radio personality. It's a Mark Levin moment.

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First they take Jerusalem from us. Now they take Bernie Sanders from us. Never again.

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Hillary has token opposition but I mean it's more than like what Al Gore got.
Bill Bradley had to be a way more formidiable opposition.

He lost NH 53-47 to Gore. Bradley was even with Gore in late 99 polls. They had like twelve debates or something absurd. IIRC, it was more than the GOP and they had a nominal field. And it lost Gore key supporters when he went hard on the offensive against Bradley over cooperating with Reagan. I imagine some of those were eventual Nader voters.

The Perfect Tie* posits that the actual primary that year was between McCain and Bradley. That had one of them been able to win what they define (through five characteristics or something) as the "reform" primary from the other, then they would have soaked up all that support and thus been able to better stand against W. Bush or Gore one-on-one both in terms of funding, campaign infrastructure, key supporters, etc. But alone in each primary they were shorn apart by factors of the individual party's primaries rather than being able to do as McCain did in places like Michigan and pull in non-Republicans or temporary Republicans.

Also, lol at writing that reminding me of how much people said "reform" that year, like in 2008 when everyone started saying "change" suddenly.

*Which is from a series of political science books based around statistical analysis of the presidential elections rather than "punditry or narratives." James Ceaser is the primary author, I think Andrew Busch stopped participating eventually, but they did like 1988-2008 or something. Definitely not like Game Change or Double Down in format.

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Jeb Bush campaign in ruins, can't raise money, has no shot at nomination, conservatives don't trust him, please don't look up articles about McCain in 2007: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-jeb-bushs-campaign-ran-off-course-before-it-even-began/2015/06/10/386331e6-0eb6-11e5-adec-e82f8395c032_story.html

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“Interacting with people on the road who deal with real issues . . . that’s what brings true joy to Jeb,” Sally Bradshaw, a longtime consultant, said in a recent e-mail.
"You know what brings true joy to Jeb? Hearing about the troubles and daily struggles of the common folk."
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Jeb Bush seems like he'd rather be at home reading Charles Murray books than campaigning. Romney has to be kicking himself for allowing Bush to punk him out of running.
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Back in 1989, Jeb scammed the Nigerian government and used tax-payer money to do it:

But the president's then-36-year-old son was not visiting Nigeria on a diplomatic mission. He had come to promote an industrial water pump company. The visit—and the $82 million deal tied to it—would form one of the more controversial episodes of Bush's business career and dog him for years after he jumped into politics. The deal became notorious because of allegations, outlined in thousands of pages of court documents, that the transaction had been greased through massive bribes to Nigerian officials paid for by American taxpayer money loaned through the US Export-Import Bank. The deal triggered a federal criminal investigation, as well as nearly two decades of civil litigation by the US Department of Justice that in 2013 resulted in a federal jury finding that the water pump company, MWI Corp., had defrauded the federal government of millions of dollars.
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Phoenix Dark

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Drudge front page  :lol


dems destroyed TAA in the House a few minutes ago, thankfully.
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Dems finally grow a backbone and stand strong against a bad piece of legislation, and it was something that Obama actually wanted. :lol
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Republicans wanted it bad too so you know it must have been a shit show for American workers. It sounds like something Obama agreed to do as a concession from another negotiation.
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