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As the former scion of a family whose wealth was largely derived from Boeing, I used to only like the Export-Import Bank because it was little more than Boeing's consumer credit department funded by taxpayers, but now I know it's a legit criminal enterprise too. Jeb Bush 2016. :american

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In Florida you can't sell electricity generated by solar panels on your home, nor can you be sold electricity generated from panels on your home (pseudo-leasing). Jeb Bush is nothing but a RINO. Lindsey Graham 2016. #singleladies :american

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Who wants to pay to get up at 6:30 in the morning to go skeet shooting with Lindsey Graham?

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Who wants to pay to get up at 6:30 in the morning to go skeet shooting with Lindsey Graham?

Pre-registered attendees only (no twinks or asians)
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i'm a little more worried about lindsey graham skeeting
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i'm a little more worried about lindsey graham skeeting

Don't worry, I have it on good authority from a Puerto Rican rentboy I know that his aim is impeccable.
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What's Hillary position on fucking up aspect ratios and audio in your uploads? And on running audio from your B-Roll over your guests?

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Best case scenario timeline:

2015 - Democrats hold Kentucky governor
2016 - Clinton wins by a huge margin, Democrats retake Senate, gain like 15 seats in the House (they need 30 for a majority). Hold Missouri/Montana governorships, pick up Indiana/North Carolina
2017 - Democrats hold Virginia governor, win New Jersey governor
2018 - Minimal House/Senate losses, hold Pennsylvania governorship, pick up: FL, IL, MA, MD, ME, MI OH, WI. NY governor election won by a Democrat who's not a backstabbing asshole
2020 - Clinton wins reelection, gain back several of the seats lost in 20[14] (IA, CO, NC and also ME)
2022 - Democrats win House majority under new lines, Clinton passes a bunch of liberal legislation in her last two years

Dream scenario:

2016 - Clinton wins by such a huge margin Democrats are swept into House/Senate majorities right away and she gets to pass shit
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Dream scenario:

2016 - Sanders wins by such a huge margin Democrats are swept into House/Senate majorities right away and she gets to pass shit

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I intentionally left the female pronoun in, because in this scenario, Mrs. Sanders becomes our first female and first transgendered president :bow2
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TranSanders :teehee
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I know Benji will watch this with me.
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That's the guy that was thanking white people and god for slavery:


He's great:

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I obviously agree with certain aspects of this speech PD posted but I always hate how the solution is social conservatism, tougher "law and order" and immediate cut-offs.

Never talk about other reasons they don't have fathers or whatever with the drug war and basically forced recidivism. Never propose fixing welfare systems so they taper off instead of the sudden cut offs where taking on jobs actually makes people worse off. Complaining about "black anger" but dismissing any grievances as illegitimate, even if they are imaginary you still need to address them, not dismiss them. (Same with Middle East views and so on.)

Jesse Distinguished Black Fellow Peterson spends a lot of the speech bashing communities and their institutions (churches, etc.) for not doing better, yet he doesn't tie his anti-government views to areas where the government is holding them back. He doesn't ask why blacks turn to the only people who show interest in their complaints or interests even if their "solutions" are actually harmful.

To tie this into the Buchanan book I was reading, he basically makes the same argument they were using in the 1960's, that the left (especially Robert Kennedy) are promoting violence by minorities by treating their complaints as legitimate. If the power structure denies avenues of redress of grievances or even attention towards them of course any group will get frustrated. Even if riots like in the 1960's were a slightly counter-productive solution.

There's something amusing about how he comes towards the conclusion that Obama and other blacks want to take power away from whites and how this has to be opposed, it's a tacit admission of racial power structures he dismisses as existing otherwise.

I like how he rants about all the kids out of wedlock, and then shifts to how abortion is at fault. :lol

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Really? $100 Million of SuperPAC money, and that's the best you got? This looks like a forgotten soda brand from the 80's.
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There go my dreams of a Jeb for Jerbs logo.

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Rockefeller 1968:


Alexander 1996:

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:bow Following in the footsteps of greatness.(!) :bow2
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E3 IS SAVED: JEB BUSH 2016 LIVE

https://jeb2016.com/splash?lang=en

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There's a guy with a guitar and four women singing the national anthem.

Wonder if Jeb is going to announce Bush Remastered or backwards compatibility with past Bushes.

EDIT: Guess these people are all Cuban's.

THE CUBAN LINK

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Whenever people come out the crowd chants JEB JEB JEB JEB JEB JEB

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JEB BUSH BELIEVES IN STRONG FAMILIES

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wtf at this depressing montage

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shots of Jeb Bush talking to random business people in factories and boardrooms

"it's not about yapping, there's a lot of people just talking"

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This Jeb Bush event is using more immigrants than a NYC fine dining kitchen.

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I guess Jeb's appeal is basically "maybe Cubans will vote for me in Florida."
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It's gonna be yooooooooge.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/donald-trump-net-worth

Not sure what I've done to deserve the entertainment value the 2016 GOP field is going to provide, but damn if I ain't gonna eat.
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He's in. This is really a thing that is really happening. I'm not sure what I've done to deserve this sort of entertainment, but I've got popcorn popping.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/06/16/politics/donald-trump-2016-announcement-elections/
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Won't he drop like a rock once we get in the real political machine though ?
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Won't he drop like a rock once we get in the real political machine though ?

"Drop like a rock" implies that he'll ever actually be at a point high enough to fall from.
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Those first few Republican debates are going to be must-watch television now with Trump. 

Say what you will about Trump, he does have a certain amount of charisma. It will be interesting to see how much he dwarfs the others he's on stage with.



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The FDA banned trans fats. The industry has 3 years to remove it from the food supply.

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Shocking news- David Brooks is an idiot who is not very good at things. I'm sure this will get brought up the next Sunday show he's on and he'll have to validate his credibility.

(Just kidding)

http://www.salon.com/2015/06/15/the_facts_vs_david_brooks_startling_inaccuracies_raise_questions_about_his_latest_book/
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I was going to post that but I care about the people on this forum so I didn't.

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I would have posted the article but The Bore, like America, can basically be separated into two groups. Those who like David Brooks articles, who I'll call The Johnsons - and those who don't like David Brooks articles, who I'll call The Lamars. And The Bore is definitely the latter.
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http://thehill.com/policy/defense/245152-issa-escorted-out-of-benghazi-deposition
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Former House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) tried to crash former Hillary Clinton adviser Sidney Blumenthal’s deposition before the House Select Committee on Benghazi on Tuesday.

Issa marched into the closed-door deposition and remained inside for about a minute before he was escorted out by the panel’s chairman, Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.).

The pair briefly exchanged hushed words in a nearby hallway before Issa stormed off, throwing an empty soda can into a nearby trash bin.

NBC News producer Frank Thorp posted a video showing Gowdy and Issa.
https://vine.co/v/ee0j2MTpDeq

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First time I can remember seeing these crosstabs on second choices in a while:



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Colt Firearms is skint.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/behind-colts-bankruptcy-financial-engineering-that-backfired/ar-BBlb4My
How is this shit legal? To so blatently pillage a company? If it weren't held by some rapacious private equity group somebody would be in handcuffs by now, right?

Hell, this crap makes me so angry I feel bad for a gun manufacturer.

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http://www.vox.com/2015/6/16/8793575/Republican-plan-Obama-trade-bill
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Congressional Republican leaders are considering a legislative maneuver that could salvage President Barack Obama's trade agenda, senior GOP aides said late Tuesday.

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Now, Republican leaders are trying to figure out a way for the Senate to vote for the fast-track bill without TAA. In the scenario envisioned by GOP leaders — which they haven't yet committed to — the House would pass the fast-track bill without TAA and send it to the Senate (though fast-track already passed, the House would still need to vote on it again for procedural reasons). Then, pro-trade Senate Democrats would be asked to vote for the fast-track bill with a promise that the TAA bill would also pass the House and be signed by President Barack Obama later. That's a tall order in and of itself. But the idea is that if fast track has already passed in the Senate, then House Democrats would have nothing to lose by backing TAA, and it'd be much likelier to pass.

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Senior Senate Democratic aides said Tuesday that the chances of the plan making it through the gauntlet are low, but not zero.

"Unlikely, but too early to say," one Democratic aide said.

It is the "only play" for the White House and congressional GOP leaders who want to ensure that fast-track authority and the Pacific Rim trade deal get done, said one veteran House Democrat.

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Those first few Republican debates are going to be must-watch television now with Trump. 

Say what you will about Trump, he does have a certain amount of charisma. It will be interesting to see how much he dwarfs the others he's on stage with.

Trump's got charisma, but he's also got no filter and no reason to care what anybody thinks about the things he says:

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/stewart-trump-2016
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Colt Firearms is skint.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/behind-colts-bankruptcy-financial-engineering-that-backfired/ar-BBlb4My
How is this shit legal? To so blatently pillage a company? If it weren't held by some rapacious private equity group somebody would be in handcuffs by now, right?

Hell, this crap makes me so angry I feel bad for a gun manufacturer.

Just remember, it was a company whose purpose was to make it easier to kill people.

As for legality, in the interests of brevity, fiduciary duty has been (generally speaking) narrowly defined by the Delaware Court of Chancery for some time. (Most legal entities of note--Colt included--operate out of Delaware.) Legal reasoning and human reasoning are unfortunately quite incompatible much of the time.

I'd also add to this that the carrion activities of owners like the equity firm are simply the sort of thing that happens in closely held family entities but unencumbered by capital limitations. (When a family business fails it's much more difficult to find something else to suck dry than it is for an entity whose purpose is to acquire and suck dry other entities.) Yes, my aunt and uncle who run the Gamecube Hut loot that thing like it's an upscale electronics retailer caught in a civil disturbance.
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by KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON   June 16, 2015 4:30 PM

Donald Trump may be the man America needs. Having been through four bankruptcies, the ridiculous buffoon with the worst taste since Caligula is uniquely positioned to lead the most indebted organization in the history of the human race.

The Trump conglomerate is the Argentina of limited-liability companies, having been in bankruptcy as recently as 2009. To be sure, a lot of companies went bankrupt around then. The Trump gang went bankrupt in 2004, too, and in 2001. Before that, Trump was in bankruptcy court back in 1991 when his Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City — the nation’s first casino-cum-strip-club, an aesthetic crime against humanity that is tacky by the standards of Atlantic City — turned out to be such a loser that Trump could not make his debt payments.

The closing of that casino has been announced at least twice — it was supposed to shut its doors in December, but it limps on.

Donald Trump, being Donald Trump, announced his candidacy at Trump Plaza, making a weird grand entrance via escalator — going down, of course, the symbolism of which is lost on that witless ape. But who could witness that scene — the self-made man who started with nothing but a modest portfolio of 27,000 New York City properties acquired by his millionaire slumlord father, barely out of his latest bankruptcy and possibly headed for another one as the casino/jiggle-joint bearing his name sinks into the filthy mire of the one U.S. city that makes Las Vegas look respectable, a reality-television grotesque with his plastic-surgery-disaster wife, grunting like a baboon about our country’s “brand” and his own vast wealth — and not see the peerless sign of our times?

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Colt Firearms is skint.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/behind-colts-bankruptcy-financial-engineering-that-backfired/ar-BBlb4My
How is this shit legal? To so blatently pillage a company? If it weren't held by some rapacious private equity group somebody would be in handcuffs by now, right?

Hell, this crap makes me so angry I feel bad for a gun manufacturer.

Didn't Mitt Rmoney use Bain to do the exact same thing to other companies?
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by KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON   June 16, 2015 4:30 PM

Donald Trump may be the man America needs. Having been through four bankruptcies, the ridiculous buffoon with the worst taste since Caligula is uniquely positioned to lead the most indebted organization in the history of the human race.

The Trump conglomerate is the Argentina of limited-liability companies, having been in bankruptcy as recently as 2009. To be sure, a lot of companies went bankrupt around then. The Trump gang went bankrupt in 2004, too, and in 2001. Before that, Trump was in bankruptcy court back in 1991 when his Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City — the nation’s first casino-cum-strip-club, an aesthetic crime against humanity that is tacky by the standards of Atlantic City — turned out to be such a loser that Trump could not make his debt payments.

The closing of that casino has been announced at least twice — it was supposed to shut its doors in December, but it limps on.

Donald Trump, being Donald Trump, announced his candidacy at Trump Plaza, making a weird grand entrance via escalator — going down, of course, the symbolism of which is lost on that witless ape. But who could witness that scene — the self-made man who started with nothing but a modest portfolio of 27,000 New York City properties acquired by his millionaire slumlord father, barely out of his latest bankruptcy and possibly headed for another one as the casino/jiggle-joint bearing his name sinks into the filthy mire of the one U.S. city that makes Las Vegas look respectable, a reality-television grotesque with his plastic-surgery-disaster wife, grunting like a baboon about our country’s “brand” and his own vast wealth — and not see the peerless sign of our times?

we gon eat good as long as The Donald stays in the race :rejoice
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Colt Firearms is skint.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/behind-colts-bankruptcy-financial-engineering-that-backfired/ar-BBlb4My

wow.

when i think gun, i think m1911 and variants. used to be in all those old movies :usacry
Same here.  As a gun enthusiast (not a nut!) it really sucks.  They make some quality handguns and rifles if you don't want one that isn't almost completely MIM.  Plus that damn pony is so fucking iconic.

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Holy shit at that Trump speech.  :money
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Colt Firearms is skint.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/behind-colts-bankruptcy-financial-engineering-that-backfired/ar-BBlb4My
How is this shit legal? To so blatently pillage a company? If it weren't held by some rapacious private equity group somebody would be in handcuffs by now, right?

Hell, this crap makes me so angry I feel bad for a gun manufacturer.

Didn't Mitt Rmoney use Bain to do the exact same thing to other companies?

Scrape off everything of value, pump the shell full of debt, make out like a bandit. :bow
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It's a Ch. 11 bankruptcy, if I remember correctly. Colt should still exist after its current owners tire of sucking it dry. Cheer up, my fellow Americans. :american

Worst case scenario it'll end up an arm of European death peddler like Browning is.

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I was reading the history of Colt and got a laugh when I learned that the company actually lost money during WWII (despite having multiple contracts). That's some epic levels of mismanagement.








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Obviously not privy with Colt inner workings, and I certainly won't argue that predatory finance is not a thing, but couldn't their situation be partly justified, market wise ? Those very old companies (and "familial" to quote Vularai) tend to hard code into themselves some complacency or poor gestion when the money flows in and it's really hard to rock centuries old roots. I'm somewhat experiencing that (at a low level) in my current position... A lot of comments in the original link alludes to that with consumers saying that Colt is too expensive compared to its competitors, while the quality of products have gone down.

I don't have an hard on for capitalism, but sometimes Ch.11 are justified...
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