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[benjipwns]

Gavin telling Jesse that legalizing abortion oppresses the 50% of women who are pro-life.

[Phoenix Dark]

conservative white male humor

[Phoenix Dark]

That poll has republicans with parity or above democrats in voter ID. Nah...

[Human Snorenado]

Obama's approval rating has gone up in the past month or so, though.

[Steve Contra]

Definitely the time to overthink polling.

[Human Snorenado]

Definitely the time to overthink polling.

Right out of the Cheebs playbook

[Steve Contra]

Definitely the time to overthink polling.

Definitely the time to overthink polling.

[benjipwns]

So much attention over one poll.

At least that means there's nothing else going on in the world, which is cool.

[ZephyrFate]

let's not link anything involving Steven Punchable McFuckFace Crowder

[Barry Egan]

Towards what end would Hillary be trying to steal the media's attention right now? She's doing a great job of staying out of the way while Trump immolates his own party. Bernie has a resonant message but isn't competitive enough at this point (or ever) to pose a real threat.  Instead of taking swings at phantoms she can save her energy now and spend time quietly reinforcing her coalition for the both the primary and the general, which is what she appears to be doing.  Makes a lot of sense imo. 

[benjipwns]

PPP poll, GOP only:

he federal minimum wage is currently $7.25-
which of the following would you support mostincreasing
it to $15 an hour, increasing it to $12
an hour, increasing it to $10 an hour, keeping it
at $7.25 an hour, or eliminating the federal
minimum wage altogether?
Support increaing to $15.00 an hour 7% ...............
Support increasing to $12.00 an hour 11% .............
Support increasing to $10.00 an hour 34% .............
Support keeping it at $7.25 an hour 24% ................
 20% Support eliminating the federal minimum
wage altogether ..............................................
Not sure 3%

[benjipwns]

PPP poll, Trump's Hair:
Democrats: 7% Favorable, 67% Unfavorable
Republicans: 20% Favorable, 34% Unfavorable
Independents: 11% Favorable, 38% Unfavorable
Overall: 12% Favorable, 49% Unfavorable

[Barry Egan]

For reasons I can't even rationalize to myself I watched this entire thing.  Here's the money quote:

First of all, there is no systemic discrimination in the United States ok?  I mean, there's a black president of the United States ok? There are individual racists, sure, absolutely.  But actually, as an English speaking Canadian born to a French Canadian mom, which complicates the laws even more [in Quebec], I've faced more systemic discrimination in North America than any other group can.  I had to go to French schools.  They thought I was learning disabled.  And I wasn't learning disabled.  I just couldn't do math and geography and history in French.  I was a step behind everyone else and I wasn't allowed to go to English schools!

 

[ToxicAdam]

The damage Trump is doing to the republican party is truly amazing. He has spent weeks making prejudiced to straight out racist comments and yet barely any republicans are denouncing him. It's amazing.

There's no real advantage in denouncing Trump. All he does is drag you in the mud with him.

[benjipwns]

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/248912-trump-stewart-is-begging-me-to-appear-on-his-final-show

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said that Jon Stewart is “begging” him to appear on the final episode of Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show.”

“They have invited me,” Trump told The Hill in an interview. “I like Jon Stewart — I think he’s good. They’re begging me to go on.

“I would do it ... the problem is it looks like pandering. It looks so false and so phony if I do it,” he added.

...

“I don’t think there’s anything wrong with President Obama having done it,” Trump said. “I know he took a lot of heat, you know, because they said, ‘What are you doing on a comedy show?’ I think it’s OK.”

He said that “it would’ve been better if he had Stewart come over to the White House, because it would’ve cost nothing.”

“Stewart would’ve loved it, and you’d have saved a lot of money,” Trump said.

[Barry Egan]

it would have been the yoogest, classiest and most luxurious episode of the Daily Show there ever was.

[Kara]

Quebec rules. Vive le Québec libre.

[Phoenix Dark]

The damage Trump is doing to the republican party is truly amazing. He has spent weeks making prejudiced to straight out racist comments and yet barely any republicans are denouncing him. It's amazing.

There's no real advantage in denouncing Trump. All he does is drag you in the mud with him.

I agree to a degree but at the same time the Trump comments were one of the biggest stories in Spanish media for a few weeks and is still reverberating. The fact that it took so long for a relevant candidate to say anything did damage to the party amongst republicans. And if Trump survives long enough to reach the debates the entire immigration issue will be viewed through the lens he has created. Will Bush/Rubio/"moderate" candidates take him on face to face? Probably not, given the makeup of the GOP base in those early states. The damage could easily go on for another month.

[ToxicAdam]

It's July 23, 2015.

[Kara]

It's July 23, 2015.

4 letters in July
20 / 4 = 5

2 + 3 = 5

1 x 5 = 5

Hail Eris.

[studyguy]

Apparently he's going in as a third-party candidate?
I don't buy it, all that signals to me is that enough of his initial backers have low key pulled the floor out from under him and bolted.

Now then again if he actually does do it, at least he takes the batshit crazy vote with him to crash and burn. Man is doing the republicans no favors either way.

[Phoenix Dark]

Maybe a writer of the power and moral authority of Coates should let people in on this little secret? Between the World and Me feels nihilistic because there is no positive program to leaven the despair and the call for perpetual struggle. Although Coates made a stab at one in his famous essay, “The Case for Reparations.” Let’s play along and say that we adopt a modest, roughly $1 trillion program of reparations, which would be more than $20,000 for every black person in the country, regardless of his or her family’s personal history or current financial circumstances. Would that program be transformative for any individual?

No. For poor blacks to escape poverty, it would still require all the personal attributes that contribute to success. So Coates is selling snake oil. Even if he got his fantastical reparations that he has poured such literary energy into advocating, real improvement in the condition of black people would still require the moral effort that he won’t advocate for.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/07/the-toxic-world-view-of-ta-nehisi-coates-120512.html?ml=po#.VbEm6PkYGSo

You know who wrote it, without clicking the link.

Too bad Coates doesn't give a shit what white people think or else he'd put all of these clowns on that Summer Jam screen.

[Shadow Mod]

Gavin telling Jesse that legalizing abortion oppresses the 50% of women who are pro-life.

 

[Phoenix Dark]

Man all the sexist shit that's going to be said over the next year or two during this election...

[Human Snorenado]

Man all the sexist shit that's going to be said over the next year or two during this election...

It'll be worth it, though- just like when Obama got elected and racism ended, think about how misogyny will go away forever when Hillary is President!

[Phoenix Dark]

"A woman is president, there are no more excuses for women to complain about!"

[benjipwns]

Trump about to sweep the black vote: https://twitter.com/dennisrodman/status/624651124545581056

Dennis RodmanVerified account
‏@dennisrodman
@realDonaldTrump has been a great friend for many years. We don't need another politician, we need a businessman like Mr. Trump! Trump 2016

[benjipwns]

going to look for this segment, may never post here or anywhere again due to death:

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[Phoenix Dark]

When I first started playing team basketball we had half court drive drills where one kid would dribble to the basket as fast as they could and throw up a layup, while another kid trailed behind for the potential rebound/put back. If Biden runs I'm guessing he's going to be the trailing kid, waiting for the other to fuck up that wide open layup. The NY Times apparently fucked up yesterday in terms of repeating bullshit they were likely fed by ranking House republicans getting a story wrong about Hillary...but I still wouldn't rule out something eventually being revealed that damages her. Surely the establishment would rather have Biden in the wings just in case, rather than Sanders or even O'Malley.

[benjipwns]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-elections-politics/new-photos-show-bush-administration-reaction-to-911-attacks/

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

damn, is that a thousand yard stare on W there or what?

would I be just fine with vice president Biden? Sure, absolutely. But I really don't think this third or fourth reheating of the Benghazi scandal is going to amount to much. C'mon GOP, is that really the best ammo you've got? One of the most scrutinized people on earth and you're big 'gotcha' is that she wasn't secretive enough of some information that meant nothing anyway? The only thing this 'new' scandal is good for is a sneak preview of the conservative freakouts yet to come when Hilary is the shot caller in chief.

[benjipwns]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421600/obama-deserves-impeachment-iran

The president “must certainly be punishable for giving false information to the Senate.”

One can imagine hearing such counsel from a contemporary United States senator on the receiving end of President Obama’s “full disclosure” of the nuclear deal with Iran. But the admonition actually came from James Iredell, a champion of the Constitution’s ratification, who was later appointed to the Supreme Court by President George Washington.

Iredell was addressing the obligations the new Constitution imposed on the president in the arena of international affairs. Notwithstanding the chief executive’s broad powers to “regulate all intercourse with foreign powers,” it would be the president’s “duty to impart to the Senate every material intelligence he receives.” Indeed, among the most egregious offenses a president could commit would be fraudulently inducing senators “to enter into measures injurious to their country, and which they would not have consented to had the true state of things been disclosed to them.”

A little over a year ago, I recounted Iredell’s cautionary words in Faithless Execution. They echo an instructive illustration offered by James Madison, the Constitution’s principal author: If the president were “to commit any thing so atrocious” as to fraudulently rig Senate approval of an international agreement, he would “be impeached and convicted.”

RELATED: Is the Iran Deal the Worst Political Blunder of All Time?

Interestingly, the perfidy in Madison’s hypothetical involved summoning into session only senators favorably disposed toward a formal treaty that the president wanted approved. That was more plausible in the late 18th century: Under the Constitution, a treaty may be approved by “two thirds of the senators present” for the vote; and back then, senators coming from far and wide could not fly to the nation’s capital at the drop of a hat.

The hypothetical is telling as we consider Obama’s Iran deal. The Constitution makes treason a ground for impeachment, but it seems to have been outside Madison’s contemplation that a president would actually be so insidious as to use his foreign-affairs power to give aid and comfort to an enemy of the United States. On that score, note that as soon as Obama’s deal was announced, not only was Iran’s foreign minister vowing to continue funding jihadist terror; the regime’s “supreme leader,” Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, was also extolling the continued Iranian call for “Death to America.”

Madison could not fathom a president who undermines the Constitution’s treaty requirements by the ruse of labeling a treaty an “agreement” or a “joint plan of action.” Still less could he imagine a president who resorts to chicanery in communicating the terms of an international agreement to the Congress. Such duplicity must have seemed inconceivable.

Yet now, it is not just conceivable. It is happening

...

The Constitution forbids providing aid and comfort to America’s enemies. And the Framers’ notion that a president would be punishable for deceiving Congress regarding the conduct of foreign affairs meant that lawmakers would be obliged to use their constitutional powers to protect the United States — not merely shriek on cable television as if they were powerless spectators.

Well?

[Great Rumbler]

Well?

You will be made to care.

[Brehvolution]

So basically, they still haven't read the deal yet.

[Phoenix Dark]

Mike Huckabee: Obama Marching Israelis 'To The Door Of The Oven'
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mike-huckabee-iran-oven_55b4f0a2e4b0224d88328498?m73qh0k9

 

[Joe Molotov]

RELATED: Is the Iran Deal the Worst Political Blunder of All Time?

[benjipwns]

http://press.foxnews.com/2015/05/fox-news-and-facebook-partner-to-host-first-republican-presidential-primary-debate-of-2016-election/

• Must meet all U.S. Constitutional requirements; and
• Must announce and register a formal campaign for president; and
• Must file all necessary paperwork with the Federal Election Commission (FEC); and
• Must have paid all necessary federal and state filing fees; and
• Must place in the top 10 of an average of the five most recent national polls, as recognized by FOX News leading up to August 4th at 5 PM/ET. Such polling must be conducted by major, nationally recognized organizations that use standard methodological techniques.

A top five cable network, FNC has been the most-watched news channel in the country for more than 13 years and according to Public Policy Polling, is the most trusted television news source in the country. Owned by 21st Century Fox, FNC is available in more than 90 million homes and dominates the cable news landscape, routinely notching the top ten programs in the genre.

Adding to the announcement, Andy Mitchell, Director, News and Global Media Partnerships at Facebook, said, “Facebook’s scale and foundation in real identity give Fox News and the Republican contenders for the nomination the opportunity to open up the debate to Americans in a new and unique way. FOX News hosts often take to Facebook to connect with viewers authentically; their using Facebook to bring those viewers into this debate demonstrates how the platform has become an essential part of the political process.”

[Brehvolution]

Fox news was a mistake. It's nothing but trash.

[Joe Molotov]

Fox news was a mistake. It's nothing but trash.

The Trump Debates will make it all worth it.

[Phoenix Dark]

Michael Cohen, special counsel at The Trump Organization, defended his boss, saying, “You’re talking about the front-runner for the GOP, presidential candidate, as well as private individual who never raped anybody. And, of course, understand that by the very definition, you can’t rape your spouse.”

“It is true,” Cohen added. “You cannot rape your spouse. And there’s very clear case law.”

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html

[Mandark]

The #cuckservative hashtag is apparently a thing on Twitter now.  Basically a synonym of "RINO" for white supremacists who thought the term could use some really creepy sexual baggage.

[Phoenix Dark]

I wonder what Huckabee thinks about this....

[Joe Molotov]

The #cuckservative hashtag is apparently a thing on Twitter now.  Basically a synonym of "RINO" for white supremacists who thought the term could use some really creepy sexual baggage.

Conservatives and creepy sexual baggage do often go hand and hand.

[Phoenix Dark]

http://video.pbs.org/video/2365533890/

Coates clapping back at Brooks.

[benjipwns]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/jul/28/mike-huckabee-door-oven-response-jewish-people-ove/

Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee said the response he’s gotten from Jewish people to his recent comments that the Iran deal is marching Israelis “to the door of the oven” has been “overwhelmingly positive.”

“The response from Jewish people has been overwhelming positive,” Mr. Huckabee said Tuesday on NBC’s “Today” program. “The response from Holocaust survivors, from the children of Holocaust survivors. I was last night in an event - I was probably one of four gentiles in the entire event - it was a Jewish event. People were overwhelmingly supportive.”

...

“I have been to Auschwitz three times. I have stood at that very place,” he said. “I’ve been to Israel dozens of times. My first trip there was 42 years ago. The one thing I am absolutely assured of is that for 6,000 years, Jews have been hunted down and the last time the world did not take seriously threats against the Jewish people, just before World War II, this ended up in the murder of six million Jews.

“We need to use strong words when people make strong threats against an entire group of people as the Iranians have made toward the Jews,” he said.

[Phoenix Dark]

Fundamentalist Christians must creep Jews out like white dudes with an Asian fetish creep out Asian chicks.

[Great Rumbler]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/scott-walker-cheesesteaks-philadelphia-visit

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/28/politics/sarah-palin-donald-trump-administration/index.html

 

[Great Rumbler]

[benjipwns]

Michael Savage just called Trump "the Winston Churchill of our time." 

[brawndolicious]

He didn't mean to burn him?

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

Asked about Iran, Trump said it is “inconceivable” that New York Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer, who he always “thought loved Israel,” would support the Iran deal in the Senate.

After Savage interjected to ask whether Schumer has come out to say he is going to support the deal, Trump replied, “nobody knows what he is going to do,” before suggesting Israel might pressure him to oppose it.

“Actually I’m surprised that Israel isn’t putting tremendous pressure on Schumer because they do have a lot of power over Schumer,” Trump said, implying a sitting U.S. senator’s vote could be swayed by the pressure of a foreign power. (RELATED: Savage Says Obama Purging Military Like Stalin)

[Kara]

Savage Says Obama Purging Military Like Stalin

that's my president

[benjipwns]

This was pre-2014 Elections:

“Just as Stalin purged his generals, albeit in a more bloody manner, Obama has been purging the military,” Savage said, comparing Obama to one of history most evil monsters, while suggesting – falsely – that he has forced 8,000 officers from the military for political reasons.

Given his alarmist view of Obama, it is not so surprising that Savage believes the president might try to instigate some type of insurrection in order to grab even more power.

“My worst fear is that they are going to provoke an insurrection in this country as a pretext to aggrandize more power and possibly start taking more liberties with the Second Amendment,” he said

But have no fear. Savage’s book presents a solution to the Obama problem: vote Republican in November.

“I focus in ‘Stop The Coming Civil War’ on these attacks on our schools, on our borders, our language, our culture, our military,” he said. “And I focus on it for one reason: We have 30 days to save America. Why do I say that? It is as simple as this: We have to throw every Democrat out and we have to put in the opposition party.”

...

“Well, I wouldn’t go that far because we don’t know what he is going to do in two years. I know what he is doing right now,” Savage says when asked whether he believes the president is angling to hold onto power indefinitely, as Stalin-esque leaders tend to do.

“I don’t know. I can’t even think that far ahead,” he said, when pressed on the same question later in the interview. “I don’t know what he can or cannot do. I do know that anything is possible because if someone would have said that he wouldn’t limit flights from an Ebola area and he wouldn’t get away with it, I‘d say your crazy.”

...

In Savage’s telling, Obama is working with his elite friends to create a “New World Order,” one “without any borders, without any single language, without a single cultural identity.”

“This is part of the New World Order in the sense of the new Soviet world. It’s sort of emerging like a new Soviet world ruled by a power elite,” he says.

[Joe Molotov]

But will he teach us one weird trick for ending Comrade Obama's 3rd term and putting Trump in the Oval Office, using natural herbal remedies and homeopathic medicine?

[Phoenix Dark]

Savage's snorting in the background while Trump talks

[benjipwns]

I couldn't hear it on the radio but listening to it on youtube with headphones it added a layer of gravitas to the conversation.