US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE

[studyguy]

If you dropped Jesus into the US today we'd prob have half the country shook over the fact that he probably had some melanin in his skin.

[jakefromstatefarm]

Jesus would be mobilizing the gender fluid vanguard party on the blogosphere. In the trenches shouting "Feel the Bern!" as he launches each buzz feed listicle like a grenade into the no man's land of Das kulturkriegen

[Madrun Badrun]

http://imgur.com/a/ile5E

PD for you

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.theonion.com/article/pope-francis-reverses-position-capitalism-after-se-51363

[chronovore]

If the Pope shouldn't lecture us on politics, maybe it's time for politicians to shut the fuck up about morality and religion.

 

[benjipwns]

It's an oxymoron, but it sounded good to McCarthy era communist witch hunters so it somehow survived into today. Honestly I wonder how long conservatives can keep pushing their communist red scare terminology when generations have grown where the issue is irrelevant unless they're drinking deep from that conservative tap.

Like after a certain age calling someone a communist seems like you'd get only one kind of reaction:

Typical communist excuse making.

[benjipwns]

http://www.theonion.com/article/pope-francis-reverses-position-capitalism-after-se-51363

I hope he has a Kroger card and doesn't pay their "normal" prices.

[Kara]

Pink / pinko was a sincerely used term (Nixon famously so in a state election). As far as I know, pinko commie has always been a term employed for outlandish caricature.

[benjipwns]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/646716373473853442

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/23/donald-trump-wants-the-fcc-to-fine-a-critical-fox-news-pundit/

Donald Trump is still refusing to appear on the Fox News Channel — but apparently his self-imposed boycott doesn't prohibit watching the channel's shows.

Trump exploded on Twitter on Wednesday night after National Review editor Rich Lowry appeared on Fox and used some rather, well, colorful language to describe exactly how Carly Fiorina bested Trump at last week's Republican presidential debate.

"Let's be honest: Carly cut his balls off with the precision of a surgeon — and he knows it," Lowry said on "The Kelly File."

Host Megyn Kelly was shocked. "You can't say that!" she said, before covering her eyes with a hand. "You can't say that."

Trump quickly exploded on Twitter and wrote in a tweet: "Incompetent @RichLowry lost it tonight on @FoxNews. He should not be allowed on TV and the FCC should fine him!"

And then: "@FoxNews owes me an apology for allowing clueless pundit @RichLowry to use such foul language on TV. Unheard of!"

...

"I love how Mr. Anti-PC now wants the FCC to fine me," Lowry tweeted, adding a hashtag: #pathetic. He then posed this question to Trump: "So it's OK for you to insult Carly's looks, but you can't handle me describing what happened to you in the debate?" Lowry then answered that question himself: "Man, you can dish it out but you REALLY, REALLY can't take it."

Lowry finally threw up a white flag and offered this tweeted compromise: "A deal for you, Donald: if you apologize to Carly for your boorish insult, I might stop noting how she cut your b**** off."

The Donald, meanwhile, plugged that he will appear on MSNBC and CNN first thing in the morning.

[Joe Molotov]

Big Government

self-censoring the word "balls"

[ToxicAdam]

Government works when it's there to protect MY interests.

[Kara]

Government works when it's there to protect MY interests.

Stamocap.

[benjipwns]

Donald Trump dodged divulging specifics of how he plans to deport the 11 million or so undocumented immigrants during a Thursday morning interview with Alisyn Camerota on CNN's "New Day."

Trump has been vocal that he plans to deport all undocumented immigrants from the country, but has yet to tell how he will go about it.

Camerota asked, "How would you specifically go about it?"

Trump then dodged the question.

"Through good management and through a process. And the process is the bad ones go and they never come back," Trump said. "They’re never coming back. The really good ones, and there are many, they will go and they will come back legally. They’ll come back on an expedited system."

She then asked if he would use the National Guard or police to enforce the policy.

"I would use different forms," Trump said. "It will take place and it will be done effectively and warmly and humanely. And a lot of people will be very happy about it. Did you know i had a good hispanic poll the other day?"

Trump then pivoted into talking about his poll numbers.

the master

[Tasty]

That makes sense brehs.

[benjipwns]

http://blogs.cbn.com/thebrodyfile/archive/2015/09/23/brody-file-video-exclusive-donald-trump-exclaims-god-is-the.aspx

David Brody: “Who is God to you? What are some of your thoughts on this?  Clearly, you’re a smart man, you’re a smart businessman, you’ve contemplated this before or have you contemplate this?”

Donald Trump: “Well I say God is the ultimate. You know you look at this? Here we are on the Pacific Ocean. How did I ever own this? I bought it fifteen years ago.  I made one of the great deals they say ever. I have no more mortgage on it as I will certify and represent to you. And I was able to buy this and make a great deal.  That’s what I want to do for the country.  Make great deals.  We have to, we have to bring it back, but God is the ultimate. I mean God created this (points to his golf course and nature surrounding it), and here’s the Pacific Ocean right behind us. So nobody, no thing, no there’s nothing like God.”

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Watch out if he ever reads the darn thing: he'll be demanding to re-negotiate the covenants as a "bad deal."
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[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

[benjipwns]

Speaker John Boehner announced to House Republicans that he is retiring from Congress at the end of October, according to multiple sources in a closed party meeting.

[benjipwns]

If the Pope shouldn't lecture us on politics, maybe it's time for politicians to shut the fuck up about morality and religion.

Santorum agrees:

“The church has gotten it wrong a few times on science, and I think that we probably are better off leaving science to the scientists and focusing on what we're really good at, which is theology and morality,” Santorum said. "When we get involved with political and controversial scientific theories, I think the church is not as forceful and credible."

[studyguy]

Neither are most politicians
 

[brob]

francis studied chemistry before deciding he was too poor to get all the way thru such an education and went and did church shit instead. So he's prolly hella more knowledgable on the subject than than these easy-street business and/or law degree career politicians.

[Rufus]

So "I'm no scienticst, but..." is being dropped from the toolbox?

[CatsCatsCats]

Speaker John Boehner announced to House Republicans that he is retiring from Congress at the end of October, according to multiple sources in a closed party meeting.

I would celebrate this, but I'm sure he's just goin to be replaced with someone worse

[Kara]

Rick "let's LARP Gilead y'all" Santorum trying to say religion shouldn't get involved in political policy making. 

[brawndolicious]

He said "we" when talking about theology and morality. Wow.

Speaker John Boehner announced to House Republicans that he is retiring from Congress at the end of October, according to multiple sources in a closed party meeting.

I would celebrate this, but I'm sure he's just goin to be replaced with someone worse

It looks like pundits are assuming that that's why he resigned, so the party shifts focus from shutting down the government over Planned Parenthood to finding a new dude to run the House. Considering the next speaker might not last more than a year due to elections, it seems like what could happen in a year is less damaging to his party than an anti-woman government shutdown during election season.

I think part of the reason is that he also doesn't want to lead his party to doom in 2016.

[Phoenix Dark]

Jeb Bush: Clinton Was Lucky. My Brother Was Unlucky. Obama Makes Too Many Excuses.

Harwood also asks, “How does eliminating the estate tax help anybody's right to rise? That tax only applies to people who have made it big time — they've risen.” Bush’s reply is pretty amazing:

    Well, they're dead. If they've lived a good life, outside the money they've made, they're up in heaven looking down on us …

    What we've suggested is that a family asset doesn't get taken away. When someone does sell the asset — the next generation — they're paying on the full amount of the appreciation. That's the compromise position. And that allows for second-generation businesses to continue to flourish.  People have earned this through good fortune and a lot of hard work and taking risks. I don't think you should take that away from families.

He is literally running on his brother's exact platform.

[Kara]

The estate tax is a tax on deferred income that's recognized due to involuntary conversion (death).

[Trent Dole]

Jeb Bush: Clinton Was Lucky. My Brother Was Unlucky. Obama Makes Too Many Excuses.

Harwood also asks, “How does eliminating the estate tax help anybody's right to rise? That tax only applies to people who have made it big time — they've risen.” Bush’s reply is pretty amazing:

    Well, they're dead. If they've lived a good life, outside the money they've made, they're up in heaven looking down on us …

    What we've suggested is that a family asset doesn't get taken away. When someone does sell the asset — the next generation — they're paying on the full amount of the appreciation. That's the compromise position. And that allows for second-generation businesses to continue to flourish.  People have earned this through good fortune and a lot of hard work and taking risks. I don't think you should take that away from families.

He is literally running on his brother's exact platform.

And is bombing super hard.

[studyguy]

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/25/politics/jeb-bush-free-stuff-black-voters/index.html

Jeb Bush told a South Carolina crowd Thursday that Democrats play to African-American voters by offering "free stuff," a similar comment to a contentious one that Mitt Romney made in the days after his 2012 loss to President Barack Obama.

"Our message is one of hope and aspiration. It isn't one of division and 'Get in line and we'll take care of you with free stuff,'" Bush said Thursday at an event in Mount Pleasant, South Carolina.

#justJEB!things

[Joe Molotov]

Dat CNN quality.

[Dickie Dee]

I know Vice but this is some work:

[Phoenix Dark]

Obama had to catch himself. You could tell he was about to say "of course it is."

[Madrun Badrun]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/26/us/john-boehner-to-resign-from-congress.html

[helios]

[Tasty]

[Rufus]

Maybe they're transblack, don't judge.

[Phoenix Dark]

Is that kool-aid on the table?

[Phoenix Dark]

#blackexcellence

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/09/25/why-did-a-13-year-old-conservative-star-apparently-hoax-the-white-house/?tid=sm_fb

Holy shit

[Barry Egan]

adolescent GOP punditry is pretty fascinating.  It's like all the douchiest and brain-dead aspects of the party amplified by 100 because teenagers are already worthless idiots from the word go. 

[Joe Molotov]

adolescent GOP punditry is pretty fascinating.  It's like all the douchiest and brain-dead aspects of the party amplified by 100 because teenagers are already worthless idiots from the word go. 

Sometimes you almost can't see the strings.

[VomKriege]

Why the hell is a 13 years old kid being made a political pundit darling in the first place ? It's actually way more disturbing than the '"issue" of his Twitter account being blocked (or not).

[Mupepe]

Why the hell is a 13 years old kid being made a political pundit darling in the first place ? It's actually way more disturbing than the '"issue" of his Twitter account being blocked (or not).

As the article also mentioned its been a trend with social media for the GOP. Some kid who is slightly well spoken stans for the party and conservatives rally behind them in a desperate attempt to not seem like the old white dude party. This kid just relished in it and seemed to want to escalate it at any cost.

[Mods Help]

Figured a black person would throw Ahmed under the bus while praising cops. Black people are always the sheep you need them to be. Carson and that kid are great examples for pushing the conservative fabric further.

[Phoenix Dark]

@JayDubya

[Trent Dole]

MORE LIKE BILL NYE THE BABY MURDERING GUY

[Joe Molotov]

How much is Big Baby Parts paying you, Bill??

[Trent Dole]

@JayDubya

Seen it.  Uselessly stupid.

Like Carl Sagan making similar arguments, he's abandoning scientific fact in favor of pushing propaganda.

The only thing he says with any relevance in scientific fact is to point out that sometimes a blastocyst doesn't implant; all he does then is use that to facilitate a logical fallacy in which he suggests that a natural death for the unborn somehow would warrant criminal charges... when it doesn't for the born, and no one is pushing for any such thing.

A deliberate homicide is not the same as a natural death.

And there ends the pathetic argument this idiot is making.

Can't kill something that hasn't been born/legally doesn't exist.

[Barry Egan]

Bill Nyehilated

[Joe Molotov]

Even Iran is trolling the GOP.

"Sometimes when I would have time, some of it was broadcast live and I would watch it -- some of it was quite laughable. It was very strange, the things that they spoke of," he said through an interpreter.

"Some of them wouldn't even know where Tehran was in relation to Iran. Some of them didn't know where Iran was geographically, not distinguishing that one is the capital of the other."

...

Can a government become a signatory to an international agreement and then the subsequent government tear it to shreds? This is something that only the likes of Saddam Hussein would do," he said.

"Saddam Hussein, previous to attacking Iran in 1980, did sign an agreement with Iran and then tore it to shreds himself and then attacked Iran."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/27/world/rouhani-republicans-iran-amanpour/index.html

[CatsCatsCats]

[Human Snorenado]

Fairly sure Rubio is gonna end up being the GOP nominee. Feel like he'll outlast the freak show candidates and Jeb!

[Brehvolution]

Rubio is part of the freakshow. There will be full scale revolt if Trump doesn't win the nom. Maybe even split the party in 2

[Human Snorenado]

I mean, they're all freakshow candidates, but I'm specifically talking about the Trump-Carson-Fiorina troika of people that haven't held elected office before. They're all in various stages of disqualifying themselves, and we're still over 3 months away from the first actual primary or caucus. Rubio is bland and overly cautious, and both of those traits will serve him well over the next 3 1/2 months or so as we make the long slog to Iowa and New Hampshire.

[Trent Dole]

Snore ain't wrong here, witness the eventual Romney nomination back in 2012.

[toku]

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/09/when-america-was-great-taxes-were-high-unions-were-strong-and-government-was-big/407284/#disqus_thread

[Phoenix Dark]

Triumph is probably right but I'm moving my prediction from Walker to Cruz. Goldwater redux.

[Human Snorenado]

Any eventual nominee will have taken enough hardline positions during the primary in order to win that they'll effectively be Goldwater redux, provided that the democratic nominee isn't a complete and bumbling moron.

[Sausage]

GOP is probably just gonna go with the boring option and choose Bush.

[Phoenix Dark]

Not buying that Bush can win this. I'm more apt to believe the establishment will rally to Rubio now, like Triumph said. I mean...

Jeb Bush is entering a critical phase of his Republican presidential campaign, with top donors warning that the former Florida governor needs to demonstrate growth in the polls over the next month or face serious defections among supporters.

The warnings, expressed by numerous senior GOP fund­raisers in recent days, come as Bush and an allied super PAC are in the early stages of an aggressive television ad campaign they say will help erase doubts about his viability.

But Bush continues to battle against a steady decline in the polls, sinking to fifth place at just 7 percent in a national NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll released Sunday and similarly languishing in the early-voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/its-make-or-break-time-for-jeb-bush/2015/09/27/73d5f6fa-63c0-11e5-b38e-06883aacba64_story.html

100mil and he's at 5-8% in polls lol. He'll be able to last due to money/name ID but I think Rubio will become the establishment guy, and Cruz will outlast the crazy people and become the HNIC (head nincompoop in charge).