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[Great Rumbler]

Maybe Drinky Crow is Donald Trump.

[Tasty]

Maybe Drinky Crow is Donald Trump.

[Samson Manhug]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/carly-fiorina-medieval-history-degree-helps-defeat-isis/story?id=34256597

[Rufus]

So she's going to raise an army of mongolian horse archers. Cool. Cool, cool, cool.

[Kara]

So she's going to raise an army of mongolian horse archers. Cool. Cool, cool, cool.

They only beat the Abbasids.

[benjipwns]

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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/carly-fiorina-medieval-history-degree-helps-defeat-isis/story?id=34256597

Oh yeah? Well, I have a history degree AND decades of Civilization experience, and probably weeks of Paradox games experience. And then there's the Total War games!

First question: Have we built a granary yet? We'll need the 40% food bonus.

[Rufus]

So she's going to raise an army of mongolian horse archers. Cool. Cool, cool, cool.

They only beat the Abbasids.

By taking Baghdad, close enough.

[OnlyRegret]

Augustus Sol Invictus

Times like this almost make me want to learn that dead language.

[Joe Molotov]

Hey, I've been to Medieval Times; hopefully I can get a spot in President Fiorina's cabinet.

[Phoenix Dark]

(Image removed from quote.)

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/carly-fiorina-medieval-history-degree-helps-defeat-isis/story?id=34256597

[Rufus]

Augustus Sol Invictus

Times like this almost make me want to learn that dead language.

Don't bother. It's for poseurs and ancient history majors.

[benjipwns]

 

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[Mandark]

The big mistake would be teching for crossbows instead of beelining for civil service and education, then falling behind other nations in tech.

What we should do is pay Islamic State ~5gpt to declare war on someone else, then denounce them and war them ourselves.  That'll take them out and leave us in good diplomatic standing for declarations of friendship and research agreements later on.

[Madrun Badrun]

thanks to my degree in linguistics, I can speak the language of diplomacy.

[Great Rumbler]

Listen, I've put literally hours of time into Starcraft and if it's taught me one thing it's that the only way we're going to beat an ISIS rush is by bottling up the entrance to our bases with supply depots, a few marines in a bunker should take care of whatever gets through.

[Human Snorenado]

Maybe Drinky Crow is Donald Trump.

[benjipwns]

Does anyone know if international law requires one unit per tile or allows for stacks?

[kingkitty]

Listen, I've put literally hours of time into Starcraft and if it's taught me one thing it's that the only way we're going to beat an ISIS rush is by bottling up the entrance to our bases with supply depots, a few marines in a bunker should take care of whatever gets through.

I like to say I'm qualified to defeat ISIS because I play a lot of Crusader Kings. But I'm a fraud who uses cheat codes.

[jakefromstatefarm]

not tiles, they switched to hexes at Yalta

[Samson Manhug]

Politico is saying it was Joe Biden himself who leaked Beau's dying wish:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/joe-biden-beau-2016-214459

Kind of gross, but the idea of Biden/Warren ticket still excites me.

[Great Rumbler]

Use your recently deceased son as a political prop.

[Phoenix Dark]

Really don't like the use of the word "leak" here. Biden telling Dowd this information doesn't strike me as the cynical, John Edwards-esque thing it's being made out to be. We don't know whether this was Biden talking with Dowd for a story of hers, and him giving her the info off hand. Given his typical behavior, him giving info to people isn't particularly shocking. Have you ever seen a Biden interview where he doesn't reveal some random family tidbit or quote?

[CatsCatsCats]

Were we expecting him to keep it a national secret?

[studyguy]

Carson out here not only saying dead bodies aren't as sad as the loss of the second amendment but also low key throwing shade on the fucking Oregon shooting victims brehs, advocating kindergarten teachers be armed and making parallels to gun control laws leading to Nazi Germany & the holocaust in his recently published book:

“German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler’s regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior,” Carson writes in “A More Perfect Union: What We the People Can Do to Reclaim Our Constitutional Liberties,” published Tuesday. “Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance.”

This dude
 

[CajoleJuice]

So she's going to raise an army of mongolian horse archers. Cool. Cool, cool, cool.

They only beat the Abbasids.

I can only like this because of Hardcore History.

[Joe Molotov]

Is there anything that isn't slavery or the holocaust?

[Phoenix Dark]

Is there anything that isn't slavery or the holocaust?

actual slavery and the actual holocaust

[Great Rumbler]

And the "Hitler took everyone's guns" thing isn't even true:

http://www.salon.com/2013/01/11/stop_talking_about_hitler/

[Human Snorenado]

Not to be outdone by Ben Carson, Bobby Jindal is calling the shooter's father a failure that owes all of us an apology, because of course he is.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/jindal-oregon-shooter-father

[studyguy]

No lie I thought Jindal dropped out.

Give it up Piyush.

[recursivelyenumerable]

Jindal went on to call out "shallow and simple minded liberals" for blaming "pieces of hardware for the problem."

"If anyone is at all serious about changing any of this, they must address the root problems, and those are cultural decay, the glorification of evil, the devaluation of human life, the breakdown of the family, and specifically the complete abdication of fathers," Jindal wrote.

Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency ... and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope ... I'll come in again.

[Kara]

Carson out here not only saying dead bodies aren't as sad as the loss of the second amendment but also low key throwing shade on the fucking Oregon shooting victims brehs, advocating kindergarten teachers be armed and making parallels to gun control laws leading to Nazi Germany & the holocaust in his recently published book:

“German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler’s regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior,” Carson writes in “A More Perfect Union: What We the People Can Do to Reclaim Our Constitutional Liberties,” published Tuesday. “Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance.”

This dude
 

My favorite thing about the "Nazis disarmed people under the control of their government, ergo the Holocaust" conservative meme is that it completely whitewashes away the complicity of average people in making the Final Solution a quasi-reality as well as the long development of European antisemitism. It's like the perfect melding of softcore Holocaust denial and the "Jewish people are things to be used for personal advancement" plank of modern conservative politics.

[studyguy]

I haven't read much on it but I always wondered how internment camps during WW2 for the Japanese went on the West Coast. You know I'm sure many of them were probably armed or at least had the right to bear arms. Yet lo and behold we threw 120K citizens into camps because fuck you and we all went along with it just fine. Guns or not.

I don't have anything against the right to own guns for recreation or whatever, but the thought that it'll somehow stop a government hell bent on a mission against you in particular is some rambo gun nut fantasy.

[Phoenix Dark]

Isn't that a general staple of all paramilitary/militia conspiracy types? These people legitimately believe they could resist the most powerful military of all time...with hunting rifles and automatic weapons.

Internment shit often tends to target oppressed groups anyway. So if it were to happen (again) in the US I'm going to assume it won't be aimed at redneck cacs. And they won't do shit as Hispanics or whoever else gets rounded up lol.

[Steve Contra]

Carson out here not only saying dead bodies aren't as sad as the loss of the second amendment but also low key throwing shade on the fucking Oregon shooting victims brehs, advocating kindergarten teachers be armed and making parallels to gun control laws leading to Nazi Germany & the holocaust in his recently published book:

“German citizens were disarmed by their government in the late 1930s, and by the mid-1940s Hitler’s regime had mercilessly slaughtered six million Jews and numerous others whom they considered inferior,” Carson writes in “A More Perfect Union: What We the People Can Do to Reclaim Our Constitutional Liberties,” published Tuesday. “Through a combination of removing guns and disseminating deceitful propaganda, the Nazis were able to carry out their evil intentions with relatively little resistance.”

This dude
 

My favorite thing about the "Nazis disarmed people under the control of their government, ergo the Holocaust" conservative meme is that it completely whitewashes away the complicity of average people in making the Final Solution a quasi-reality as well as the long development of European antisemitism. It's like the perfect melding of softcore Holocaust denial and the "Jewish people are things to be used for personal advancement" plank of modern conservative politics.

I've legit seen people say things like "no one knew what Hitler was up to when he imposed gun control" like he hadn't written a book, the beer hall putsch hadn't happened, and a million other things

[studyguy]

They'd never round up Mexicans, we'd use our tribal voodoo.

[Kara]

I haven't read much on it but I always wondered how internment camps during WW2 for the Japanese went on the West Coast. You know I'm sure many of them were probably armed or at least had the right to bear arms. Yet lo and behold we threw 120K citizens into camps because fuck you and we all went along with it just fine. Guns or not.

I think it went over relatively well in part because it was regional. Outside the zone of exclusion people of Japanese descent weren't interned so you didn't run the risk of any nationwide upheaval, and even within the zone the system was applied inconsistently (mostly so in Hawaii where something like a third of the entire state's population would have had to be interned). The places where it was in effect were pervasively racist... Earl Warren (yes, that Earl Warren) even lobied for federal action to begin the process when he was a state politician.

Feel free to correct me about any of this, btw. I haven't been to Manzanar in a long, long time. (Take your kids to concentration camps on family vacation y'all.)

[Great Rumbler]

Carson out here not only saying dead bodies aren't as sad as the loss of the second amendment but also low key throwing shade on the fucking Oregon shooting victims brehs, advocating kindergarten teachers be armed and making parallels to gun control laws leading to Nazi Germany & the holocaust in his recently published book:

This dude
 

Let's go to the actual quote for that one about the Oregon victims:

"Not only would I not probably not cooperate with him. I would not just stand there and let him shoot me," Carson said. "I would say, 'Hey guys, everybody attack him. He may shoot me, but he can’t get us all.' "

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm getting closer and closer to just accepting that Ben Carson is an elaborate Hannibal Buress gag.

[Samson Manhug]

Republican presidential candidates are sounding more and more like internet trolls these days.

[Mandark]

"I would've bum-rushed the shooter" actually provides a really quick, effective way to spot the dudes in the bar/office/dorm/barbershop whose bullshit you can safely ignore forever.

[VomKriege]

I don't have anything against the right to own guns for recreation or whatever, but the thought that it'll somehow stop a government hell bent on a mission against you in particular is some rambo gun nut fantasy.

Isn't that a general staple of all paramilitary/militia conspiracy types? These people legitimately believe they could resist the most powerful military of all time...with hunting rifles and automatic weapons.

The "most powerful military of all time" can't stop goat herders cultivating opium or find a crazy bigot motherfucker using child soldiers. All the best militaries of the past century have at one point been disrupted by low tech insurgencies mainly using small arms, often to the point of being prevented from "winning". I think current and historic evidence show that an armed citizenry would in fact be a major thorn in the side of Jade Helm whatever. If we even consider that something even remotely plausible... That's the real kooky part.

[brawndolicious]

The problem is they refuse to acknowledge that the second amendment was made for you to protect the state from the federal government. If there was a Vietnam or Red Dawn situation, guns would be smuggled in over some border in this huge country.

I don't think any modern military has the capacity to totally block insurgents with small arms that are willing to take a 1:30 kill ratio. But I really don't think any country would go through the effort of defeating America's conventional army to then worry about winning our hearts and minds. They'd probably just take resources and nuke population centers.

[studyguy]

After looking at Invictus' youtube commercials, went and poked around for more of these kinds of crazy cats.
HUNT SOME RINOS BREHS YEEE HAW
 

[Kara]

Benji come get your (popular front) boys.

[Mr. Gundam]

I haven't read much on it but I always wondered how internment camps during WW2 for the Japanese went on the West Coast. You know I'm sure many of them were probably armed or at least had the right to bear arms. Yet lo and behold we threw 120K citizens into camps because fuck you and we all went along with it just fine. Guns or not.

I think it went over relatively well in part because it was regional. Outside the zone of exclusion people of Japanese descent weren't interned so you didn't run the risk of any nationwide upheaval, and even within the zone the system was applied inconsistently (mostly so in Hawaii where something like a third of the entire state's population would have had to be interned). The places where it was in effect were pervasively racist... Earl Warren (yes, that Earl Warren) even lobied for federal action to begin the process when he was a state politician.

Feel free to correct me about any of this, btw. I haven't been to Manzanar in a long, long time. (Take your kids to concentration camps on family vacation y'all.)

Growing up in Washington state we learned about the internment of Japanese citizens in elementary and junior high. It went over really well which always stunned me. I mean, people were upset about losing their neighbors who did nothing wrong, but there weren't huge protests against the government. What's sobering to me is that our state fair in Puyallup, WA is held where our local Japanese-American population was interned.

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[Joe Molotov]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/matt-drudge-interview-obama-isis-issa

Matt Drudge, founder of the Drudge Report, joined radio host Alex Jones for a rare interview on Tuesday during which he spoke about his latest conspiracy theory.

He said that the Obama administration began referring to the Islamic State as "ISIS" so that the group would be confused with Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA), the former chairman of the House Oversight Committee.

"We never heard of ISIS until recently," Drudge told Jones. "Do you know it was designed to be confused with Darrell Issa?"

According to Drudge, President Obama decided to do that "because Darrell Issa was the enemy at the time of this administration." He noted that Obama could have been impeached over the IRS scandal, which Issa investigated as chairman.

"They came up with the name ISIS to be confused with Darrell Issa. I’m really being honest with you," Drudge said.

Drudge did not appear in the video of Jones' interview with him, and Jones said that Drudge stood in the dark in the studio with a handheld microphone.

 

[Samson Manhug]

Obama notoriously prefers ISIL over ISIS/IS/daesh. An incredible amount of hot takes have been written about this in the last year or so.

[brob]

Obama notoriously prefers ISIL over ISIS/IS/daesh. An incredible amount of hot takes have been written about this in the last year or so.

obviously a false flag so everyone else can say ISIS to subliminially undermine this honest, hardworking republican. drop the liberLOL talking points, you're not at jade helm basic anymore

[Great Rumbler]

Since gun-control laws are right out, we'll just train the entire population [including children] to throw themselves onto active shooters:

I'd also like us to encourage people to gang rush shooters, rather than following their instincts to hide; if we drilled it into young people that the correct thing to do is for everyone to instantly run at the guy with the gun, these sorts of mass shootings would be less deadly, because even a guy with a very powerful weapon can be brought down by 8-12 unarmed bodies piling on him at once. Would it work? Would people do it? I have no idea; all I can say is that both these things would be more effective than banning rifles with pistol grips.

It is easy and satisfying to be for "gun control" in the abstract, but we cannot pass gun control, in the abstract.

[Fifstar]

 

[Samson Manhug]

[Kara]

Issa is an Arabic name too.

Follow the transliterated letters, sheeple.

[I'm a Puppy!]

I'm sorta surprised that the democrats haven't come out swinging big on the republican response to mass shootings. Jeb's "Stuff happens", Carson's "blame the victims", Trumps "We could help but instead why don't you jump on a guy that's wielding a gun?" I mean it's a prime opportunity to point out these guys have no idea and outside of a few bylines there's nothing. If I ran the DNC it'd be full court press.

[Samson Manhug]

Issa is an Arabic name too.

Follow the transliterated letters, sheeple.

Which means JESUS. Another front of Obama's war against Christianity.

[Samson Manhug]

If my rhetorical son or daughter came home from his elementary school class and told me that they practiced rushing an active shooter I would form a collective to stuff ballot boxes, systematically take over the school board, and slash the budget to effectively shut the school down à la East Ramapo.

[Great Rumbler]

“I have had a gun held on me when I was in a Popeye’s,” Ben Carson said, reportedly referring to a Baltimore location of the fast food chain.

“Guy comes in, puts the gun in my ribs,” he added. “And I just said, ‘I believe that you want the guy behind the counter.’”

"He said, 'Oh, OK.'"

 

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

Carson is right...

Popeye's is better then KFC.

[Rufus]

“I have had a gun held on me when I was in a Popeye’s,” Ben Carson said, reportedly referring to a Baltimore location of the fast food chain.

“Guy comes in, puts the gun in my ribs,” he added. “And I just said, ‘I believe that you want the guy behind the counter.’”

"He said, 'Oh, OK.'"

 

And he had to deflect with words!? Coward! Should have spun around and snapped his neck. Or casually unholstered his own, much bigger, gun (he does carry, right? right!?) and held it in the would be assailant's face.

[studyguy]

Popeyes

Also what's that 16 year old working for minimum wage got to say about Carson directing an armed robber at his ass?
That's some shit man.