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benjipwns · « **Reply #13260 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:11:34 AM »

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Fox News responded in a statement given to Mediaite, saying:

We learned from a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly when they meet with him if he becomes president — a nefarious source tells us that Trump has his own secret plan to replace the Cabinet with his Twitter followers to see if he should even go to those meetings.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #13261 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:33:02 AM »

It's good to see Trump finally doing the Lord's work.

benjipwns · « **Reply #13262 on:** January 27, 2016, 11:07:22 AM »

benjipwns · « **Reply #13263 on:** January 27, 2016, 12:41:02 PM »

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President Barack Obama will meet with Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders on Wednesday at the White House, less than a week before the first-in-the-nation Iowa caucuses.

The Oval Office meeting will be informal and has no a set agenda, White House press secretary Josh Earnest said in a statement Tuesday. Sanders and the president discussed the possibility of meeting in December during a congressional holiday party, Earnest said.

Obama finally standing up for progressive causes with huge endorsement!

Odd that he chooses a virulent racist as his vehicle though.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #13264 on:** January 27, 2016, 01:25:33 PM »

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #13265 on:** January 27, 2016, 04:06:02 PM »

C'mon baby, feel the Jeb!mentum

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/polltracker/bush-2nd-place-emerson-poll

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13266 on:** January 27, 2016, 04:20:53 PM »

http://wonkette.com/598261/bernie-bro-just-wondering-who-her-royal-highness-michelle-obama-thinks-she-is-anyway

I'm legit rustled

Brehvolution · « **Reply #13267 on:** January 27, 2016, 04:27:47 PM »

Trump skipping the debate is

I can't wait to see the viewer results after the debate. I'd bet less than the shitty dem debate numbers.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #13268 on:** January 27, 2016, 04:54:40 PM »

We need a trump emote.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13269 on:** January 27, 2016, 10:00:31 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13270 on:** January 28, 2016, 12:02:02 AM »

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/01/27/health-wonks-and-bernie-bros/
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/01/23/wonks-and-minions/

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Right now I’m getting the kind of correspondence I usually get from Rush Limbaugh listeners, although this time it’s from the left — I’m a crook, I’m a Hillary crony, etc., etc.. OK, been there before — back in 2008 I was even the subject of tales about my son working for the Clintons, which was surprising because I don’t have a son

Bernie stans going at K-Thug. Don't they know

Syph · « **Reply #13271 on:** January 28, 2016, 12:06:04 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 28, 2016, 12:02:02 AM

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/01/27/health-wonks-and-bernie-bros/
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/01/23/wonks-and-minions/

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Right now I’m getting the kind of correspondence I usually get from Rush Limbaugh listeners, although this time it’s from the left — I’m a crook, I’m a Hillary crony, etc., etc.. OK, been there before — back in 2008 I was even the subject of tales about my son working for the Clintons, which was surprising because I don’t have a son

Bernie stans going at K-Thug. Don't they know

Krugman's age is showing though breh
not gonna pretend my honours econ degree supercedes dude's goddamn nobel prize, but his bias seeps into his writing heavily these days to the point of angry man yells at cloud levels
ill try and recommend an alternative when im awake tho

curly · « **Reply #13272 on:** January 28, 2016, 04:47:33 AM »

When Krugman writes about subjects that are outside his expertise he's really just your garden-variety liberal on the internet. He has one idea, which is that the republicans are very, very bad. I can agree with the sentiment but he never says anything past that.

Syph · « **Reply #13273 on:** January 28, 2016, 01:04:18 PM »

Quote from: curly on January 28, 2016, 04:47:33 AM

When Krugman writes about subjects that are outside his expertise he's really just your garden-variety liberal on the internet. He has one idea, which is that the republicans are very, very bad. I can agree with the sentiment but he never says anything past that.

Yea just pisses me off when he leaves out things to make his arguments stronger. He's a smart dude, he doesn't need to be doing that shit.
ex. talking about labour force participation rate vs. unemployment rate and then leaving the former out when he wants to shit on Repubs and defend President Obama
aaanyway

Rubio 2016
It’s Rubio Or Bust For Republicans Who Want To Win

brob · « **Reply #13274 on:** January 28, 2016, 07:30:44 PM »

https://www.yahoo.com/politics/bernie-sanders-is-getting-a-surge-of-volunteers-in-150511299.html

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When not organizing for Sanders, Rhodes is a Web developer and the founder of NoFap, which he described as an online community dedicated to helping people recover from addiction to pornography. He said he was inspired to create the site based on his own experiences.

Rhodes said he hopes to keep recruiting volunteers from Reddit as the primaries continue. Because of this, he has come up with a name for the project as it extends beyond Operation Iowa. Rhodes is calling his Reddit recruitment operation the “Sanderstorm.”

“The people who are helping me — they’re actually called Sanderstormtroopers,” Rhodes said.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #13275 on:** January 28, 2016, 08:54:02 PM »

Snyder admin was trucking clean water in for Flint employees like a year ago

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2016/01/snyder-administration-started-trucking-clean-water-state-buildings

Never letting PD live that vote down, lulz

Broseidon · « **Reply #13276 on:** January 28, 2016, 09:34:44 PM »

https://twitter.com/ArminRosen/status/692895940462522368

HyperZoneWasAwesome · « **Reply #13277 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:07:31 PM »

Trump was right to skip the debate, Fox moderators had the knives out tonight. They had contradictory tape on Rubio and Cruz and asked them to explain themselves, Marco came out okay, Cruz looked a bit shaky (and had the most seemingly egregious fibs of the night).

-Carson is toast (nothing new there)
-Kasich rambles
-Jeb was surprisingly strong
-Christie was there
-and Paul had his best ever night.

Its weird, it was almost a substantive debate. The questions were tough-ish. The answers were a bunch of dodging about how they all essentially agree with each other about everything (minus Paul), but the pantomime of respectable political discourse was well performed tonight.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13278 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:17:53 PM »

Trump must have known ahead of time that Kelly was going to be playing tapes of previous comments from candidates.

Another bad, repetitive debate. I thought Rubio did well until the immigration bomb. The tape was damning, and then him and Bush got into a weird argument over who flip flopped on the pathway to citizenship first. Wow.

Carson is still terrible at this, wow. Cruz was playing defense a lot, and it wasn't pretty. The tape Kelly played also exposed his hypocrisy.

Kasich was basically the only guy who said non-insane stuff more often than not.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #13279 on:** January 28, 2016, 11:56:37 PM »

Quote from: HyperZoneWasAwesome on January 28, 2016, 11:07:31 PM

-Jeb was surprisingly strong

Woah woah woah!

Woah.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #13280 on:** January 29, 2016, 12:09:14 AM »

Look at PD ignoring the article about Snyder smuggling water into the Flint govt offices

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13281 on:** January 29, 2016, 12:12:25 AM »

Any thoughts on mmt economics?

brawndolicious · « **Reply #13282 on:** January 29, 2016, 01:15:49 AM »

SHE WONT GET WITHIN TEN MILES OF THE WHITE HOUSE!!

Fucking shut the fuck up. I am no Hillary stan but if a woman acted half as angry as Christie everyone would be saying she's a crazy bitch.

I thought Bush and Paul did really good but I only caught the second hour of the debate. Rubio and Christie can have lots of charisma but I didn't see them show it at all tonight.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #13283 on:** January 29, 2016, 11:19:15 AM »

http://gawker.com/no-one-wants-to-talk-to-ted-cruz-1755866883

lmao

chronovore · « **Reply #13284 on:** January 29, 2016, 12:02:32 PM »

Quote from: curly on January 28, 2016, 04:47:33 AM

When Krugman writes about subjects that are outside his expertise he's really just your garden-variety liberal on the internet. He has one idea, which is that the republicans are very, very bad. I can agree with the sentiment but he never says anything past that.

A few months back here, someone had a great insight on how people will automatically couch things in terms with which they themselves feel most comfortable. It's a variation on "when all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail." I guess if your favorite tool is a hammer, the same can be said.

toku · « **Reply #13285 on:** January 29, 2016, 02:18:31 PM »

http://www.theonion.com/article/retreating-clinton-campaign-torches-iowa-town-slow-52261

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #13286 on:** January 29, 2016, 08:18:21 PM »

Cruz really is the worst.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #13287 on:** January 29, 2016, 09:56:05 PM »

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35446455 SMH Hilary SMH

Mandark · « **Reply #13288 on:** January 29, 2016, 10:20:28 PM »

Quote from: Steve Contra on January 25, 2016, 01:21:10 PM

Someone who went to college was arguing with me the other night that we shouldn't worry too much about Planned Parenthood because uncle Bernie will bring about single payer and Planned Parenthood will be irrelevant. And people wonder why Bernie is popular mainly with white dudes

On Sanders' FB page, they posted something about wage equality, and two of the top liked comments are #wellactually from his supporters.

Again, the guy and his actual campaign are much better about this stuff than a certain subset of his supporters (and it's not like they weren't around before he started running), but there's definitely a problem here.

benjipwns · « **Reply #13289 on:** January 30, 2016, 01:16:09 AM »

I assume the fact that he's currently the only one directly running against a women helps gather those people under his umbrella. Even the "libertarian" MRA/GameGaters/whatever can swing over on Bernie for social/foreign policy/etc. issues and the "he can win Iowa and NH" factor for an excuse.

I mean, I might as well vote for Bernie if he's still competitive by the primary date as Paul will likely be dead by then. If I were to vote. Hypothetically.

I imagine they will become Trump supporters in the general, rather than back Hillary. Even the ones who are internet socialists.

benjipwns · « **Reply #13290 on:** January 30, 2016, 01:19:17 AM »

Also, Sanderstormtroopers is only slightly better than GamerGate for a self-named movement.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #13291 on:** January 30, 2016, 03:00:15 PM »

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-sasse-donald-trump-small-hands

wtf

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #13292 on:** January 30, 2016, 03:03:42 PM »

This is what happens when your political campaigns last 2 years.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #13293 on:** January 30, 2016, 04:02:47 PM »

Quote from: Mamacint on January 30, 2016, 03:00:15 PM

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ben-sasse-donald-trump-small-hands

wtf

Donald Trump having short fingers is a long-running joke, and apparently he gets really annoyed over it.

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #13294 on:** January 31, 2016, 12:33:58 PM »

PD's support of Hillary is starting to make sense

brob · « **Reply #13295 on:** January 31, 2016, 02:25:21 PM »

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/iowa-new-hampshire-gop-voters-poll.html#

Rufus · « **Reply #13296 on:** January 31, 2016, 02:45:36 PM »

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I grew up as a strict constitutionalist. Let’s say my brother got caught with a pack of cigarettes in his room and my mom went to punish him. My dad said, “What are you doing in his room? You can’t punish him, you didn’t have jurisdiction to do the search.”

Stopped reading right there.

Ok, I couldn't help myself. Thankfully not everyone there is a weirdo, but this guy stood out to me...

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Ted Cruz is the most conservative guy in the bunch and he’s frankly the smartest guy in the bunch. I was leaning toward Rand Paul until Rand started to give me the impression that he was a little soft. Largely, the reason why I’m a conservative is because I’ve been on public assistance my whole life, and I have always felt ashamed of it. I have two major health conditions — cerebral palsy and an injury to my left hemidiaphragm. The whole idea of welfare and entitlements is to create a permanent underclass. They’ll give you plenty of handouts, but they won’t give you any hand-ups.”

So, he thinks someone will find a job for him if welfare goes away?

curly · « **Reply #13297 on:** January 31, 2016, 03:01:59 PM »

Quote from: brob on January 31, 2016, 02:25:21 PM

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/01/iowa-new-hampshire-gop-voters-poll.html#

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You’ll notice that there are no noticeable faces of color on this page; this is because we did not come across any nonwhite GOP voters in our travels.

Rufus · « **Reply #13298 on:** January 31, 2016, 03:15:50 PM »

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"The life of one American is worth how many of the Islamic people that come in here, even if there’s only one in a million of them that [are] a threat?"

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"I just want to feel safe like I felt like I did with George W. after 9/11. He had just taken office, and that kind of ruined his presidency, in a way. Our president now isn’t tough at all. I don’t think he cares. I think he’s an economic — I can’t say Hitler. But part of me feels like he does the national debt on purpose, because I feel like he hates America."

Lots of feels with this one.

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"I first learned about Rand Paul in the ‘08 election. One of my friends told me, ‘Hey, this guy is talking about legalizing everything.’ I was like, ‘That’s awesome. I want to check that out.’”

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"Trump’s not weak. There’s a difference between light and darkness and we believe he’s more on the middle."

Yup. Orange.

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"I don’t think Trump should be excluding all Muslims. It’s so … racist, almost. It takes away from the freedom. I think there should be some restrictions, just not too strict, and not too lenient. Because that’s where we have problems. If it was Hillary Clinton versus Trump, I think I’d go for him. But if it was him or any of the other Republicans, I would not vote for him."

I've turned around on this article.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #13299 on:** January 31, 2016, 03:35:25 PM »

Man, that whole article is nothing but white people whining.

Rufus · « **Reply #13300 on:** January 31, 2016, 03:37:58 PM »

The way they see Trump is amazing. One guy thinks he's a mix of Kennedy and Reagan. One woman practucally says she fell in love with him, "the Ford of our time."

It's so ridiculous it has to be cherrypicked. The entire thing is quote-worthy.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #13301 on:** January 31, 2016, 03:40:30 PM »

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We attended a Christmas-themed Trump rally and a gun show where AR-15s were being sold alongside “historical” Confederate flags. (You’ll notice that there are no noticeable faces of color on this page; this is because we did not come across any nonwhite GOP voters in our travels.)

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #13302 on:** January 31, 2016, 03:43:42 PM »

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Our system is so backwards. Nothing has been working for the past eight years. Something big has got to change so people are safe and financially okay.

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Allison Doyle
From: Cedar Rapids, IA
Age: 24
Occupation: Student
Supporting: Trump

Including you, amirite bae?

curly · « **Reply #13303 on:** January 31, 2016, 03:46:57 PM »

All those complaints about political correctness...sounds like a bore poster

Rufus · « **Reply #13304 on:** January 31, 2016, 03:50:01 PM »

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"I think it’s unfortunate that we live in a day and age where not everybody is nice and there are segments of the world that aren’t very nice.”

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13305 on:** January 31, 2016, 04:00:53 PM »

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/693900870715625473

curly · « **Reply #13306 on:** January 31, 2016, 04:01:45 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2016, 03:35:25 PM

Man, that whole article is nothing but white people whining.

I see legitimate grievances (unemployed, bad health insurance) mixed with a lot of blaming Muslims.

Rufus · « **Reply #13307 on:** January 31, 2016, 04:11:23 PM »

And a lot of random flailing from old people.

Also, all the IT people are libertarians. I wonder why that is.

Mandark · « **Reply #13308 on:** January 31, 2016, 04:14:35 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 31, 2016, 04:00:53 PM

https://twitter.com/jonathanchait/status/693900870715625473

jon chait just wants to die on that hill, huh

brob · « **Reply #13309 on:** January 31, 2016, 04:30:50 PM »

I guess it's supposed to be a salute, but it looks like he's seen some gay liberal shit and is having a headache about it

octopushover · « **Reply #13310 on:** January 31, 2016, 05:05:11 PM »

comparing trump to kennedy

jakefromstatefarm · « **Reply #13311 on:** January 31, 2016, 06:03:27 PM »

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I put 32 liberty Republicans into a boardroom with him, and I drilled him for 25 minutes...

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #13312 on:** January 31, 2016, 06:09:55 PM »

Is Allison Doyle married?

Oblivion · « **Reply #13313 on:** January 31, 2016, 06:57:37 PM »

"I just want to feel safe like I felt like I did with George W. after 9/11"

brawndolicious · « **Reply #13314 on:** January 31, 2016, 09:28:23 PM »

A lot of the Trump supporters give me the feeling that they had their life dreams dashed at some point and need someone to pin the blame on. It makes sense that they'd see somebody even as ridiculously fake as Trump as a beacon of hope and all that since he's far from either establishment and blames a lot of problems on foreigners.

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Andrew Freund
From: Manchester, NH
Age: 25
Occupation: IT consultant
Supporting: Undecided

I’m deciding between Jeb, Kasich, Trump.

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Trump’s unique. He’s qualified. He has executive experience. He’s created jobs — not just on a national but on an international level. A lot of people are worried about some of the things he says. And rightfully so. But it’s difficult to overlook the fact that people are supporting what he’s saying. I mean, when it comes to the Muslim temporary ban, 80 percent of those polled actually agreed with what he said. That’s a strikingly large number. I think he’s a serious contender. I personally think we have bigger issues to deal with right now. But what he’s saying does spark a debate. It does allow the country to talk and ideas to flow.

Only potential Trump supporter I found who actually acknowledges that the dude might be a really real racist. Is it possible that the rest are also in that 20%?