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« Reply #13920 on: February 21, 2016, 03:04:06 PM »
Romney is endorsing Rubio. I guess that's a positive for Rubio?  ???
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« Reply #13921 on: February 21, 2016, 05:15:35 PM »
Both of them are robots so it makes sense that one would endorse the other.  :doge

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« Reply #13922 on: February 21, 2016, 05:26:42 PM »
Has anyone done more for income equality than Karl Rove or Mike Murphy? Think about all the money they milked from billionaires and utterly wasted on terrible presidential candidates. I'd imagine the total equals the amount of money payday loans and other scams milk from the lower classes.
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« Reply #13923 on: February 21, 2016, 08:18:23 PM »
Hey, Bob Shrum and Tad Devine started that racket, Rove and Murphy just took it big time.

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« Reply #13924 on: February 21, 2016, 08:26:43 PM »
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Romney is endorsing Rubio. I guess that's a positive for Rubio?  ???
So did Donnie Wahlberg!

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« Reply #13925 on: February 21, 2016, 08:42:35 PM »

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« Reply #13926 on: February 21, 2016, 09:00:33 PM »
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Romney is endorsing Rubio. I guess that's a positive for Rubio?  ???
So did Donnie Wahlberg!

Rubio's got it (The Right Stuff) to get you loving him forever. He will treat you right and be your cover girl when you're hangin' tough, are you down?
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« Reply #13928 on: February 21, 2016, 09:11:16 PM »
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« Reply #13929 on: February 21, 2016, 09:12:36 PM »
Rubio please, the kidz only care about Trump or Bernie. You just need to stick to the Jesus stuff and try to peel off some Cruz voters.
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« Reply #13930 on: February 21, 2016, 09:14:43 PM »
Who's the ginger from harry potter though? I would vote for him.

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« Reply #13931 on: February 21, 2016, 09:17:13 PM »
No one votes for Ron.  In the Harry Potter lore, Ron is constantly feeling like he lives in the shadow of better people.

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« Reply #13932 on: February 21, 2016, 09:20:16 PM »
No one votes for Ron.  In the Harry Potter lore, Ron is constantly feeling like he lives in the shadow of better people.

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« Reply #13933 on: February 21, 2016, 09:53:31 PM »
Sanders never had a chance at the nomination and was always about expanding what is important and palatable politically.   The fact that Sanders has done as well as he has is a total surprise and pretty cool.   Clinton supporters' response to this moment has been embarrassing.

Note: I've probably just missed the worst of Sanders' support.   I just read Poligaf where some people almost seem to think Bernie is a white supremacist or something.

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« Reply #13934 on: February 21, 2016, 10:54:46 PM »
Sanders never had a chance at the nomination and was always about expanding what is important and palatable politically.   The fact that Sanders has done as well as he has is a total surprise and pretty cool.   Clinton supporters' response to this moment has been embarrassing.

Note: I've probably just missed the worst of Sanders' support.   I just read Poligaf where some people almost seem to think Bernie is a white supremacist or something.

Bernie Sanders is the Bizarro Ron Paul and his success can attributed more to a desire to see a progressive alternative to Hillary Clinton.  Sanders is an exceptionally weak candidate.

I'm curious what blackmail/payouts the Clintons made to keep the Democrat field so barren this time around.  In Nevada, there were only 80,000 who turned out to the primaries vs. 120,000 in 2008.  There is a distinct lack of enthusiasm this go around for the Democrats.
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« Reply #13935 on: February 21, 2016, 11:54:57 PM »
I think it's moreso a mixture of everyone knowing the Clintons are a juggernaut, the potential of Biden running, other candidates imploding before the process began (remember Brian Schweitzer?), and the general weakness of the democrat bench due to the depletion of democrat governors. Major losses in 2010 and 2014 basically ended the careers of various people who might have been able to run now.
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« Reply #13936 on: February 21, 2016, 11:55:15 PM »
Sanders never had a chance at the nomination and was always about expanding what is important and palatable politically.   The fact that Sanders has done as well as he has is a total surprise and pretty cool.   Clinton supporters' response to this moment has been embarrassing.

Note: I've probably just missed the worst of Sanders' support.   I just read Poligaf where some people almost seem to think Bernie is a white supremacist or something.

Poligaf whining about bernie bros is hilarious considering what a hive mind that place is.

I think it's moreso a mixture of everyone knowing the Clintons are a juggernaut, the potential of Biden running, other candidates imploding before the process began (remember Brian Schweitzer?), and the general weakness of the democrat bench due to the depletion of democrat governors. Major losses in 2010 and 2014 basically ended the careers of various people who might have been able to run now.

Is Clinton a juggernaut though? I'm guessing a bunch of the more establishment potential candidates are kicking themselves for not getting in the race (although who knows how they would have done in this cycle).
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« Reply #13937 on: February 22, 2016, 12:48:38 AM »

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« Reply #13938 on: February 22, 2016, 12:49:15 AM »
Who would even be viable VP candidates for Hillary? The only other people I can think of are Booker and Castro, and they both seem like reaches since they were only just mayors until like a couple years ago.

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« Reply #13939 on: February 22, 2016, 01:31:03 AM »
Is Clinton a juggernaut though? I'm guessing a bunch of the more establishment potential candidates are kicking themselves for not getting in the race (although who knows how they would have done in this cycle).
I'm curious what blackmail/payouts the Clintons made to keep the Democrat field so barren this time around.  In Nevada, there were only 80,000 who turned out to the primaries vs. 120,000 in 2008.  There is a distinct lack of enthusiasm this go around for the Democrats.
As PD notes, who exactly would the other candidates be, that not only thought they had a chance against Hillary, would dare take her on and were at the point in their political career they would want to run. (And extra so with Biden in the race.) Brian Schweitzer, Andrew Cuomo, Deval Patrick are about it.

Janet Napolitano openly wanted to run but knew she had no chance. Also from the cabinet could be Sebelius, but Obamacare rollout probably derailed anything. Most of the also-rans from 2008 are now non-starters, Richardson, Edwards, Dodd, Evan Bayh, etc. Mark Warner's lost his luster, especially after that last Senate race.

If we're to take Warren at her word, she doesn't really have interest in the Presidency vs. making policy/legislation. (Something Ted Kennedy late in his life said he found more rewarding than all the Presidential speculation and activity over his career, but also he had a fear of being killed like his brothers.)

For a little while I thought Al Franken might be the ideal kind of anti-Hillary throw away Presidential campaign, if only because he'd find it amusing.

What's interesting, is that you could have easily doubled the size of the GOP field with "legit" candidates. (In terms of having a shot at winning states if not the nomination.)

Who would even be viable VP candidates for Hillary? The only other people I can think of are Booker and Castro, and they both seem like reaches since they were only just mayors until like a couple years ago.
This is the conventional wisdom because HEIR APPARENT IN EIGHT YEARS. Something that hasn't been a VP factor in.... I've always assumed Hillary doesn't want anyone to overshadow her. So it'll be some battleground white guy who's friendly with the Clinton's but a non-threat.

I'd enjoy very much if it was the bag man.

  I just read Poligaf where some people almost seem to think Bernie is a white supremacist or something.
I'm not saying I started this, but I certainly haven't helped by using "virulent racist and gun fetishist" as if it were his position or first name in multiple GAF threads.

Too many of the main Hillary-fanatics know me to make the felon/murderer thing last long.

Couldn't get any traction on the Hillary being ideal for the economy because of her cattle futures history campaign, because I don't think anyone understood the reference since they all came of political or literal age during Obama or the late stages of W. Bush.

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« Reply #13940 on: February 22, 2016, 01:59:03 AM »
One thing regarding this time vs. 2008 in turnout is that Edwards was still in the race and pulling in 15-20% as a third option until Super Tuesday. (Well, really until after SC when his poll numbers tanked and he bolted rather than get thrashed.) Beat Hillary in Iowa too. National polls coming out of Iowa were Hillary 33%, Obama 30%, Edwards 20%.

There's not two candidates like Obama and Edwards (both of whom had decent money/campaign teams) challenging Hillary, nor teaming up on her in debates, there's a 70+ year old self-proclaimed Socialist who had until recently been running a threadbare campaign that was behind by like 40 points nationally.

Since I got the polls open, GOP race:
Rasmussen month before Iowa: Mike Huckabee 23%, Rudy Giuliani 20%, Mitt Romney 14%, Fred Thompson 10%, John McCain 8%, Ron Paul 6%
Rasmussen day before Iowa: John McCain 17%, Mike Huckabee 16%, Mitt Romney 16%, Rudy Giuliani 15%, Fred Thompson 12%, Ron Paul 7%
Rasmussen week after Iowa: Mike Huckabee 20%, John McCain 19%, Rudy Giuliani 17%, Mitt Romney 15%, Fred Thompson 11%, Ron Paul 3%
Rasmussen going into NH: John McCain 23%, Mike Huckabee 20%, Mitt Romney 13%, Fred Thompson 12%, Rudy Giuliani 11%, Ron Paul 3%
ABC going into NH: John McCain 28%, Mike Huckabee 20%, Mitt Romney 19%, Rudy Giuliani 15%, Fred Thompson 8%, Ron Paul 3%, Duncan Hunter 2%,
ABC after SC: John McCain 48%, Mitt Romney 24%, Mike Huckabee 16%, Ron Paul 7%, Rudy Giuliani 1%, Fred Thompson 1%
Rasmussen's last poll: John McCain 53%, Mike Huckabee 30%, Ron Paul 9%
Gallup's second to last: John McCain 61%, Mike Huckabee 23%, Ron Paul 4%, Alan Keyes 4%
Gallup's last GOP poll: John McCain 63%, Mike Huckabee 21%, Ron Paul 6%, Alan Keyes 2%

Even more fun:

Zogby December 2005:
GOP:   John McCain 19%, Rudy Giuliani 17%, Condoleezza Rice 12%, Jeb Bush 4%, Newt Gingrich 4%, George Allen 3%, Bill Frist 3%, Mitt Romney 2%, Tim Pawlenty 2%, Fred Thompson 1%, Mike Huckabee 1%, Sam Brownback 1%, Chuck Hagel 1%, George Pataki 1%, Rick Santorum 0%, Haley Barbour 0%, Mark Sanford 0%
DEM:    Hillary Clinton 26%, John Edwards 12%, Joe Lieberman 10%, John Kerry 9%, Barack Obama 7%, Joe Biden 3%, Wesley Clark 3%, Bill Richardson 3%, Evan Bayh 1%, Tim Kaine 1%, Mark Warner 1%

Gallup November 2006:
GOP:    Rudy Giuliani 28%, John McCain 26%, Condoleezza Rice 13%, Newt Gingrich 7%, Mitt Romney 5%, Bill Frist 4%, George Allen 2%, George Pataki 1%, Mike Huckabee 1%, Chuck Hagel 1%, Sam Brownback 1%, Duncan Hunter 0%
DEM:    Hillary Clinton 31%, Barack Obama 19%, John Edwards 10%, Al Gore 9%, John Kerry 7%, Joe Biden 4%, Wesley Clark 3%, Evan Bayh 2%, Bill Richardson 2%, Tom Daschle 1%, Christopher Dodd 1%, Russ Feingold 1%, Tom Vilsack 1%

IT'S A SCIENCE

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« Reply #13941 on: February 22, 2016, 02:13:08 AM »
While I'm posting old garbage, Lieberman disappearing "suddenly" from the Democratic polls in 2006 reminded me I made some 2004 Democratic Primary graphs last year at some point:

Jan 2002 up to Iowa:
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It doesn't really show up in the graph because I did the moving average, but there was like a week where Sharpton randomly had like two polls that put him at 10% and second place. Must have been after a debate or something.


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« Reply #13942 on: February 22, 2016, 10:39:25 AM »
Trump is not saying that Cruz AND Rubio are ineligible to be President of the United States, he's just asking questions.
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« Reply #13943 on: February 22, 2016, 10:58:17 AM »
What happened to Brian Schweitzer PD?
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« Reply #13944 on: February 22, 2016, 11:06:22 AM »
What happened to Brian Schweitzer PD?

Took a job as a lobbyist, iirc
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« Reply #13945 on: February 22, 2016, 11:50:12 AM »
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« Reply #13946 on: February 22, 2016, 12:09:39 PM »
Has anyone done more for income equality than Karl Rove or Mike Murphy? Think about all the money they milked from billionaires and utterly wasted on terrible presidential candidates. I'd imagine the total equals the amount of money payday loans and other scams milk from the lower classes.
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so what you're saying is really,, jeb bush 2020???? and 2024 etc
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« Reply #13947 on: February 22, 2016, 01:41:08 PM »
What happened to Brian Schweitzer PD?
The gay agenda happened, BrandKnew. The gay agenda.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/rubycramer/the-rise-and-fall-of-brian-schweitzer#.rjBOXAGnV

Yikes.  What a shame.  I really REALLY liked him after the convention in 2012.  Oh well.
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« Reply #13948 on: February 22, 2016, 03:07:59 PM »
Trump should ask Jeb to be his running mate just for maximum cuckage. :lawd
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« Reply #13949 on: February 22, 2016, 03:28:35 PM »
Ya make him bottom (of ticket).   

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« Reply #13950 on: February 22, 2016, 03:39:14 PM »
He has to watch while Trump screws America.
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« Reply #13951 on: February 22, 2016, 03:44:06 PM »
Better than having to bite the pillow and go to another place while you're getting screwed, I guess
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« Reply #13952 on: February 22, 2016, 03:44:32 PM »
And then try to clean up the mess Trump leaves after he finishes. 

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« Reply #13953 on: February 22, 2016, 04:27:15 PM »
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« Reply #13954 on: February 22, 2016, 04:46:17 PM »
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/02/bernie-sanders-cia-219451

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In his most recent debate with Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders befuddled some viewers with an arcane reference to a 1953 U.S.-backed coup in Iran, which Sanders called an example of America’s history of “overthrowing governments.”

lawl, look at this left-wing lunatic and his "arcane" references to "overthrowing governments", whatever that's supposed to mean.
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« Reply #13955 on: February 22, 2016, 05:08:36 PM »
God what is he going to talk about next, The Bay of Pigs?

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« Reply #13956 on: February 22, 2016, 08:09:02 PM »
Plus, Eric Cantor totally loves the cock, I mean just look at him.
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« Reply #13957 on: February 22, 2016, 11:33:25 PM »
They left out the context of his quote, which was him calling Southern men effeminate in general.  He also basically called Diane Feinstein a whore in the same article.

So he's a former governor of one of the least-populated states, who isn't a particularly reliable liberal AFAIK, and has already proved his ability to say dumb things into a microphone.  Not so sure the Dems missed out on their golden boy there.

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« Reply #13958 on: February 22, 2016, 11:44:46 PM »
You saying Southern men are not effeminate in general?


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« Reply #13960 on: February 23, 2016, 05:40:09 PM »
http://www.vox.com/2015/7/14/8962411/donald-trump-polls-bush

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Donald Trump’s rise is great news — for Jeb Bush

Donald Trump’s surge in the polls has been covered as terrible news for the GOP. But it’s fantastic news for one Republican — Jeb Bush.

The rise of the bombastic celebrity mogul and the saturation media coverage of his controversial comments on illegal immigrants is a godsend for the putative frontrunner, who, in every area except fundraising, has been underperforming so far.

In addition to the fact that Trump poses no threat to actually win the Republican nomination, the purported billionaire helpfully sucks up all the media oxygen so none of Bush's potentially more dangerous rivals can get any attention. Trump also presents a wonderful contrast for Bush — making him look tolerant, professional, and adult. And if Trump stays in the race and remains popular on the right, it will show that yet again, conservative voters simply can't get it together to seriously wield their influence in the presidential primaries.

The race is young, and if the roller coaster polls in 2011-'12 are any indication, things are likely to keep changing quite a bit before voting actually starts. Debates, new campaign developments, or the Iowa caucuses — which look promising for Scott Walker — could certainly elevate other contenders above Trump.

But if the race should happen to stay where it is in recent national polls — a race with Jeb Bush and Donald Trump as the top two contenders — it would be a cinch for Bush to win.
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Trump prevents candidates who could beat Bush from getting precious media attention

But it's Trump's greatest skill — getting media attention — that doubles as his greatest service to Bush. Every minute that media outlets cover Trump controversies is another minute that all of Bush's more dangerous rivals are excluded from the spotlight.

The GOP field is so crowded right now, with 15 candidates and two more expected to jump in soon, that the key challenge most contenders face is simply getting anyone to pay attention to them. Bush, the default choice who also benefits from name recognition, doesn't face that problem. But everyone hoping to dislodge him does.

Yet as these hopefuls are trying desperately to make their mark, a whopping 48 percent of the social and regular media conversation about the presidential election in one recent week was about Trump, according to Zignal Labs, an analytics partner of the Washington Post. This chart from BuzzFeed News's Katherine Miller looks even more stark:


As is evident from the social media numbers, there's a reason regular media outlets have been spotlighting Trump so much. They've learned that a ton of people love reading, watching, listening to, and clicking on content about Donald Trump much more than they do content about most other GOP presidential candidates.

Now even articles about other candidates are sometimes sold as articles about Trump — take, for instance, this noble effort by Slate to get people to click on a story about John Kasich last week:

 
The problem of media attention is particularly acute this year because GOP candidates need to place in the top 10 in national polls to even qualify for the party's first two debates. Trump now qualifies easily (provided he turns in financial disclosure forms to the FEC, as he's said he will this week). But many other contenders — like Chris Christie, John Kasich, Rick Santorum, Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, Carly Fiorina, and Lindsey Graham — are in danger of missing the cutoff.

And even if these candidates do manage to qualify, how could they upstage Trump in the debate? The man is a reality TV star whose whole schtick is saying attention-getting things. Bush will get attention regardless, due to being the frontrunner. Maybe the best a long-shot candidate can hope for is that Trump will pick a fight with him — and that, hopefully, Trump will be the one who ends up looking foolish.
Ahh, a simpler time. Back before arcane references to "overthrowing governments" or whatever it is the kids are on these days.

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« Reply #13961 on: February 23, 2016, 05:55:49 PM »
Great news for Jeb, but even better news for John McCain.
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« Reply #13962 on: February 23, 2016, 06:29:30 PM »
I felt no joy in Scalia's death. I disliked the man intensely, but I sympathized for his family and friends, and I hoped it happened peacefully.

When Mitch McConnell dies I will buy a fucking case of Cristal.

You do know that Tortoises are one of the longest-lived species in the animal kingdom don't you?
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« Reply #13963 on: February 23, 2016, 10:38:36 PM »
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Carson statement for the ages!

he "received as many delegates in South Carolina as all other candidates but the winner"

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« Reply #13964 on: February 23, 2016, 10:41:21 PM »

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« Reply #13965 on: February 24, 2016, 01:23:17 AM »
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/fox-news-reported-rubio-sleep

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Fox News reported Wednesday that Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) had gone to bed as the results of the Tuesday Nevada caucuses were still rolling in.

Fox hosts cut to reporter John Roberts for an update on the Rubio campaign, which had announced Tuesday that it would not stay in Nevada.

"Nothing else tonight," Roberts said. "The senator has gone to bed and has a lot of work to do between now and super Tuesday."

:neogaf
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« Reply #13966 on: February 24, 2016, 01:28:04 AM »
http://correctrecord.org/an-open-letter-to-senator-bernie-sanders/

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Dear Senator Sanders,

I’m writing today to urge that you and your campaign immediately halt all negative campaigning against our party’s prospective candidate for the Presidency, Secretary Hillary Clinton.

After first pledging to wage a positive campaign for President, you and your campaign have for weeks now engaged in a relentlessly ugly barrage of false character attacks against Mrs. Clinton, including running negative TV advertising of the sort you promised you never would.

Following the Nevada caucuses, you had the opportunity to live up to the self-professed ideals of your own campaign by delivering an aspirational message of systemic change, but instead you chose to ramp up spurious negative attacks against the winner of those caucuses.

These attacks –- ranging from baseless insinuations that Mrs. Clinton is somehow compromised in her ability to support meaningful reform in the financial sector, when her record shows the opposite, to unfairly impugning her reputation as a true progressive, despite her 40 years of committed, passionate advocacy – must cease.

Your continued suggestions that Mrs. Clinton is untrustworthy and even corrupt – when nothing could be further from the truth – are a threat to our party’s standing, up and down the November ballot.

With Mrs. Clinton now universally recognized as the leading candidate for the Democratic Presidential nomination, at this juncture, by staying negative, all you are doing is helping Karl Rove and his ilk do their general election dirty work. In fact, Rove and his wealthy right-wing backers have already spent millions of dollars echoing the smears you and your campaign have unfortunately directed at Mrs. Clinton.

Senator Sanders, I speak for many Clinton supporters in applauding you for raising important issues in this campaign and for helping to engage a new generation of Democratic voters. You and Mrs. Clinton agree on many priorities and goals, and the comparing and contrasting of your respective policies and programs has spurred a robust, healthy debate about how to achieve those critical aims. You can play a constructive role in the party by continuing this substantive dialogue and staying positive for the duration of your campaign.

You and I both know that the stakes for our country are just too high this November – with the Presidency, and control of the Senate and the Supreme Court hanging in the balance – for you to continue to spend your energy and resources on destructive attacks that stand to hurt all Democrats.

Please stop.

Respectfully,

David Brock

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« Reply #13967 on: February 24, 2016, 01:42:59 AM »
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« Reply #13968 on: February 24, 2016, 01:51:32 AM »
Get lost Sanders, you can't compare with her powers. It's universally recognized that you should go home and be a family man.

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« Reply #13969 on: February 24, 2016, 02:00:27 AM »

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« Reply #13970 on: February 24, 2016, 02:03:39 AM »
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« Reply #13971 on: February 24, 2016, 02:06:17 AM »
I'm legitimately terrified now.  He's going to win.
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« Reply #13972 on: February 24, 2016, 02:10:49 AM »

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« Reply #13973 on: February 24, 2016, 03:43:50 AM »
I'm legitimately terrified now.  He's going to win.
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« Reply #13974 on: February 24, 2016, 07:26:01 AM »
I'm legitimately terrified now.  He's going to win.

"President Trump."  Better get used to that term, you'll hear it be said for the next eight years.

See also: http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/24/opinions/trump-will-be-republican-nominee-robbins/
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« Reply #13975 on: February 24, 2016, 08:06:44 AM »
What should I do to prepare for the Trump era?

I already have a pdf of "Trump: Art of the Deal" on my computer to see if I can glean any insights from that.  :doge

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« Reply #13976 on: February 24, 2016, 09:05:49 AM »
It's funny that everybody is panicking about Trump possibly winning the general election. He's locked up the angry white vote to get the Republican nomination but the country is a lot more diverse than the Republican party. He's going to shift way hard to the left, starting with saying that Bush didn't keep America safe in the last debate, but he can't change those tiny parts of his platform about throwing out all undocumented immigrants and banning Muslims.

A lot of conservatives just want to vote for a racist type of candidate, the louder racist is better but a more subtle one is fine too. This does not help turn light blue or moderate swing states to the red.

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« Reply #13977 on: February 24, 2016, 09:29:50 AM »
A friend of mine is convinced that anti-immigration isn't necessarily a conservative position. I could see Trump re-orienting to the left on all of these positions except maybe anti-immigration. TBH I'd still rather a Trump than a Cruz or Rubio presidency if I was forced at gunpoint (THE TERRORISTS LAW)

Interestingly enough, he got close to 1/2 of all of the Hispanic caucus voters.
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« Reply #13978 on: February 24, 2016, 10:14:36 AM »
A friend of mine is convinced that anti-immigration isn't necessarily a conservative position. I could see Trump re-orienting to the left on all of these positions except maybe anti-immigration. TBH I'd still rather a Trump than a Cruz or Rubio presidency if I was forced at gunpoint (THE TERRORISTS LAW)

Interestingly enough, he got close to 1/2 of all of the Hispanic caucus voters.

Being left wing on most things except about foreigners.

Sounds like National Socialism.

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« Reply #13979 on: February 24, 2016, 10:19:32 AM »
I have family members - children of currently illegal immigrants - that support the anti immigration nonsense rhetoric.