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[Syph]

What The Stunning Bernie Sanders Win In Michigan Means

Both the FiveThirtyEight polls-plus and polls-only forecast gave Clinton a greater than 99 percent chance of winning. That’s because polling averages for primaries, while inexact, are usually not 25 percentage points off. Indeed, my colleague Nate Silver went back and found that only one primary, the 1984 Democratic primary in New Hampshire, was even on the same scale as this upset.

shoutout to PD

[Phoenix Dark]

Speaking of nerds and economics, I've been cracking up about this lately
https://m.

Mors
Dude has a giant chip on his shoulder about so many things.

yup lol

Not to hijack the thread BUT I do generally believe that doling out uniques like candy is a bad thing in an arpg for the reason he states: it kills the anticipation of finding something amazing over time. The thing that kills his argument is that PoE doesn't reallydo that. Even the new league isn't that gratuitous. Plus a couple days after that video came out it became rather clear a whole lot of uniques on sale are from folks who found them before the new league and are just now selling them because of the new trading system (ie ppl who didn't use third party sites in the past).

I've found a couple great uniques this season though, including that summoner belt. Gonna sell that.

[Joe Molotov]

http://www.wsaz.com/content/news/Anonymous-tip-claims-raw-milk-caused-illnesses-at-Capitol-371487251.html

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (WSAZ) -- In the weeks after passing a bill, allowing West Virginians to drink raw milk, one delegate brought the drink in to celebrate and, eventually, several lawmakers have gotten sick.
 
Some lawmakers say it's just a coincidence and a stomach bug is going around.

lol democracy

[Mandark]

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2016-03-08/cruz-s-rise-against-trump-fails-to-win-over-senate-colleagues

In interviews Tuesday with 18 senators, there was scant indication they're heeding Cruz’s call to unite behind his campaign. When asked why the Texan lacks Senate support, their answers ranged from awkward chuckles and long silences to no-comments and briskly walking into a senators-only elevator to evade the question.

Cruz's colleagues refusing to support him simply cause he's a dick is my favorite petty subplot of this whole tire fire of an election cycle.

[Phoenix Dark]

[chronovore]

How about a montage of that scene, and the one where his daughter won't kiss him, and all the other times he's been Heisman'd?

[ToxicAdam]

I think that's why Hannity has a hard-on for the guy. Being in proximity of him makes Sean seem more likeable.

[octopushover]

Ted Cruz looks like Michael Jackson dressed up as that old white guy in Ghosts.

[Phoenix Dark]

It's amazing how many things have gone wrong for republicans during an election that could have been winnable. First a hundred republicans decided to run for president, muddying the field. Then Trump emerged as a front runner in late 2015 only to be met with dismissals. The moderate candidates destroyed each other and the conservatives destroyed each other, all while Donald went untouched. Now two establishment candidates and Ted Cruz are splitting the not-Trump vote which helps him. It took republicans until late February to decide to bombard Trump with negative ads but it's too late.

How is it that he dominated everyone in immigration for months before someone brought up that he's been hiring illegal immigrants for decades? Or the Trump University scam. Those attacks have hurt Trump but not enough to sink him. If they had been hurled in October or November maybe the race would be different.

[Mandark]

For the longest time, the candidates seemed to assume that Trump wasn't a serious threat, that he was running a fake vanity campaign that would fizzle out like Herman Cain's did.  I can't make too much fun of them for that, since I figured the same thing.

But it meant they were jockeying for position against each other, and not working to make Trump toxic to voters. Bush's PAC money mostly went towards attacking Rubio, right up until South Carolina, which is crazy to think about in retrospect.  Kasich staying in to siphon off votes has also been a super weird choice.

The behind-the-scenes books about this primary are going to be great.  There is so much fuckery to be documented.

[Phoenix Dark]

I want to point out that I saw Trump as a serious threat to win it as far back as last summer.

Got into an argument with Jonathan Bernstein in his comments section about it. I think history has pronounced me the winner of that exchange.

Our very own Edgar Ansel Mowrer.

[benjipwns]

Everybody knows I've been harping on the immigration thing in the GOP to the point of annoyance, and PD knows I mocked PollinGAF for their Jeb! is unstoppable, Trump isn't for real, etc. but I still figured Trump would give up more ground than he has.

The part I liked most about the Taibbi piece was actually that he articulated what I tried to a few months earlier, that the media treatment of these things had become so sports-coverage like that a candidate could literally do what Trump has done and not suffer for it. A billionaire with reality show experience just made him even more perfect to roll with it.

The field of candidates was also oddly weird. Cruz's campaign is the only one that's really made any sense from start to today.

Bush's PAC money mostly went towards attacking Rubio, right up until South Carolina, which is crazy to think about in retrospect.

Did you see the piece linked in here a few weeks ago after he dropped out that the Jeb teams main strategy was to basically box out Romney and that was all they assumed they had to do, so they just ignored everyone else. Which was one reason they raced to get all that PAC money out front early to ward him off and try to say "we've already got the donors sry."

Also, that Iraq disaster out of the gate was amazing.

[benjipwns]

[Mandark]

benji, if we're gonna be talking about how much you laughed at the sheeple for their poor understanding of the race, we're also gonna have to talk about your boy Scott Walker.

[benjipwns]

He saw the disaster coming and will ride forth to save the party in four years.

[brawndolicious]

Everyone should know that the GOP is in their experimental college phase after being a loser throughout high school and so shame on anyone who never considered media-savvy attention whore like Trump as a serious contender for the nom. I never/still don't think Trump ever had a chance in the general election since he lacks the actual trust of those with socially conservative values and yet shows he's xenophobic enough to turn off minorities and young conservatives who don't want to end up on the wrong side of history like their parents.

This election is for sure going to be remembered as Republicans losing to themselves.

[zomgee]

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old pic, and apparently the baby died

Holy crap:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/social-medias-month-bernie-sanders-lookalike-died-37380469

[Brehvolution]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/clinton-emails-indictment-ramos

Hillary Clinton on Wednesday night brushed off the question of whether she would drop out of the presidential race if she were indicted in connection with the ongoing investigation into her private email server as she was pressed repeatedly by Univision debate moderator Jorge Ramos.

"Oh, for goodness -- that's not going to happen. I'm not even answering that question," she replied sharply at one point

That's going to throw some righties into a fever pitch.

[CatsCatsCats]

Sounds to me like she's scared and doesn't want to commit to an answer 

[Dennis]

Hillary is going to get 4-8 but not the 4-8 she was hoping for.

 

[Joe Molotov]

[james]

GAF thread is pretty funny right now. Also shows how many people truly do view black people as a monolith, voting wise. Southern black voters in Mississippi are very different from urban black voters in Detroit or Ann Arbor.

They also think all Hispanics are Cuban exiles, rather then, I dont know, from Mexico or Central America?

The "analysis" from Hillary-gaf on how Hispanics will react to Bernies thoughts in the 1980s is so hilariously bad I thought I accidentally clicked on Pop-GAF

I watched the debate on Univision NYC and afterwards they had an Hispanic focus group.

They unanimously said Bernie won.

They were asked what their favorite parts were. Free college and healthcare of course, but one woman said "I really liked how Bernie knows about American intervention in Latin America and how that affected us"

The fact is, Hillarys hawkish intervention past is toxic for Hispanics because US intervention in the Americans is hated by 99% of them (us).

[ToxicAdam]

[Glenn]Beck said ever since Drudge started “hanging out with Alex Jones,” he’s gone to “this weird conspiratorial” place where he can’t even “trust any news coming from him anymore.”

 

[Phoenix Dark]

I need to read this piece during the weekend, sounds fascinating.

The Obama Doctrine

[Dennis]

Not doing stupid shit sounds like a solid gameplan actually.

[benjipwns]

Not doing stupid shit sounds like a solid gameplan actually.

I'm getting tired of the suffocating anti-Americanism on this forum.

[Great Rumbler]

Not doing stupid shit sounds like a solid gameplan actually.

Tobias: You know, Lindsay, as a therapist, I have advised a number of couples to explore an open relationship where the couple remains emotionally committed but free to explore extramarital encounters.

Lindsay: Well, did it work for those people?

Tobias: No, it never does. I mean, these people somehow delude themselves into thinking it might, but... but it might work for us.

[brob]

the guy who writes dilbert remains good.

http://blog.dilbert.com/post/140800778006/lets-talk-about-hitler

[Great Rumbler]

Obama's black with an African father, but that didn't stop him from being compared to Hitler.

[Joe Molotov]

I'd never even heard of this Hitler guy before I started reading anti-Trump articles.

[Syph]

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I need to read this piece during the weekend, sounds fascinating.

The Obama Doctrine

gonna read it too, atlantic is my new guilty pleasure they've released some quality stuff the past few months

[helios]

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I need to read this piece during the weekend, sounds fascinating.

The Obama Doctrine

Obama felt that Netanyahu was behaving in a condescending fashion, and was also avoiding the subject at hand: peace negotiations. Finally, the president interrupted the prime minister: “Bibi, you have to understand something,” he said. “I’m the African American son of a single mother, and I live here, in this house. I live in the White House. I managed to get elected president of the United States. You think I don’t understand what you’re talking about, but I do.”

[Human Snorenado]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/carson-plans-endorse-trump

Drumpf adds a new bride to his vault

[Great Rumbler]

A Donald Trump rally attendee who appears to be the same man charged with assault for allegedly punching a black protester told Inside Edition after the Wednesday event that next time, he "might have to kill" the protester.

“You bet I liked it," a man Inside Edition identified as John McGraw, 78, told the tabloid TV show when asked about the incident. "Knocking the hell out of that big mouth.”

In a viral video, McGraw appeared to sucker-punch protester Rakeem Jones as he was being escorted out of the room by authorities.

When asked by Inside Edition why he did it, McGraw said, "We don’t know who he is, but we know he’s not acting like an American. Yes, he deserved it. The next time we see him, we might have to kill him. We don’t know who he is. He might be with a terrorist organization.”

Trump's key demographic, everybody.

[curly]

I need to read this piece during the weekend, sounds fascinating.

The Obama Doctrine

Why is Obama's go-to guy to talk about his foreign policy an ex-Israeli security guard

This fucking country

[Madrun Badrun]

[Great Rumbler]

Video went private. What was it?

[thisismyusername]

Video went private. What was it?

It's not private. But here's the description on Youtube:

"Fox Business News brought out a guest to bash Bernie Sanders for being a socialist. Little did they know, it was about to go HORRIBLY wrong for them. Instead of bashing Bernie Sanders, he explained what socialism is, and actually ENDORSED Bernie Sanders. "

[Purrp Skirrp]

How about a montage of that scene, and the one where his daughter won't kiss him, and all the other times he's been Heisman'd?

Throw this in there too.

http://webmshare.com/play/57jGB

[brob]

I need to read this piece during the weekend, sounds fascinating.

The Obama Doctrine

But once he decides that a particular challenge represents a direct national-security threat, he has shown a willingness to act unilaterally. This is one of the larger ironies of the Obama presidency: He has relentlessly questioned the efficacy of force, but he has also become the most successful terrorist-hunter in the history of the presidency, one who will hand to his successor a set of tools an accomplished assassin would envy. “He applies different standards to direct threats to the U.S.,” Ben Rhodes says. “For instance, despite his misgivings about Syria, he has not had a second thought about drones.” Some critics argue he should have had a few second thoughts about what they see as the overuse of drones. But John Brennan, Obama’s CIA director, told me recently that he and the president “have similar views. One of them is that sometimes you have to take a life to save even more lives. We have a similar view of just-war theory. The president requires near-certainty of no collateral damage. But if he believes it is necessary to act, he doesn’t hesitate.”

the writer letting this statement go unremarked is pretty wild if this is supposed to be something more than a fluff piece

[Human Snorenado]

He probably was talking about American lives

 

[james]

Virgin Islands Caucus

9 Delegates at stake

300 voters bothered to show up

0 delegates assigned

Party in disarray

[Joe Molotov]

He probably was talking about American lives

 

Benghazi

He probably was talking about Liberal Socialist Democrat American lives

 

[Joe Molotov]

“It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about HIV/AIDS in the 1980s. And because of both President and Mrs. Reagan, in particular, Mrs. Reagan, we started national conversation when before no one would talk about it, no one wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something that really appreciated, with her very effective, low-key advocacy, but it penetrated the public conscience and people began to say ‘Hey, we have to do something about this too.’”
~Hillary Clinton

 



Hillary, we're gonna need you to try a little harder, dear.

Signed,
A low-key Hillary advocate

[Trent Dole]

Hillary - She's less shit than Trump or whoever else of those guys gets the nomination! But only slightly.

[Mandark]

It's a pretty remarkable fuck-up, not just cause it's wrong, but because the Reagan administration's callousness towards AIDS victims is still very much a sore point with the gay community.

[Phoenix Dark]

“It may be hard for your viewers to remember how difficult it was for people to talk about integration in the 1960s. And because of George Wallace we started a national conversation when before no one would talk about it, no one wanted to do anything about it, and that too is something that really appreciated, with his very effective, low-key advocacy, but it penetrated the public conscience and people began to say ‘Hey, we have to do something about this too.’”

 

[octopushover]

it's a shitty situation because 1) nancy reagan just died so you can't very well be negative about her to the press and 2) nancy reagan did start a conversation about aids...five years too late.

it's like she struggled to choose the one thing she could think of to say about the woman that was politically relevant and not horrible.

[octopushover]

the way reddit and gaf would tell it though, somehow she was doing it specifically to spite rock hudson and freddie mercury and then she cackled madly and punched a cute sloth in the neck

[Steve Contra]

Of all the shit a democrat could say about Nancy Reagan, you choose AIDS

[Mandark]

Trump rally in Chicago was cancelled.

Apparently a lot of protesters were there, and things were getting pretty rowdy.

[Mandark]

live feed

[Boogie]

Well damn.

This feels like, and I hope it is, some sort of turning point.

Not for Trump's shot at the nomination, of course.  Fuck that.

But, early as it is, this feels a bit of a wake up call of "of course this is what the rise of Trump will result in."   

Let him have the nomination.  I pray that tonight will open the eyes of the general public that this is not a president that America can have in 2016.

As a representative of "law and order", I really shouldn't say this, but good on Chicago.  You've made a statement tonight.

aaaand also, on that note.  kudos to Chicago PD so far.   They've gotten (and maybe earned) a bad rap recently.  But they seem to have represented themselves well tonight, handling the situation with due restraint.

[thisismyusername]

I need to read this piece during the weekend, sounds fascinating.

The Obama Doctrine

I'm still going through this, but this is a great article. I didn't know Obama was focusing on Asian countries and the Energy crisis so heavily.

[wsippel]

Hillary - She's less shit than Trump or whoever else of those guys gets the nomination! But only slightly.

Looking at her involvement in Honduras, Libya and Syria, I'm not really sure about that.

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/dansinker/status/708434407808368640

[Phoenix Dark]

Nominate this man. Please. 60 disapproval ratings among voters. 80% disapproval among Hispanics, probably higher among blacks.

Imagine how ugly the Republican convention will be in Cleveland if he's the nominee. Oh boy. Not to mention the fact that Hillary has already called him a bigot, and I assume Obama and Bill will spend the summer and fall doing the same.

[VomKriege]

Should we be really waiting with glee for what you already think will be an ugly event ?
Also we all know what spin will be applied : urban liberal maoists disrupting a perfectly innocent, democratic rally. Political correctness gone mad. Trump will whip some outrage good out of his prospective voters. I don't think he'll lose anything : by now I think everyone concerned is aware of how dangerous he is.

Otherwise I don't know if it's been said, but with Trump you are getting the rough equivalence of Western Europe politics for the last 20 years, except he already flashed to hijacking a legitimate party. I don't know on which side of the Atlantic this reflects more poorly on.

[curly]

it's a shitty situation because 1) nancy reagan just died so you can't very well be negative about her to the press and 2) nancy reagan did start a conversation about aids...five years too late.

it's like she struggled to choose the one thing she could think of to say about the woman that was politically relevant and not horrible.

  How hard is it to not mention AIDS. No one is asking her to spit on Nancy Reagan's grave, just say the nice things about her work with Alzheimer's and stem cell research.

[Mandark]

I get the feeling that's what she was going for, but had an old-person brainfart and picked the wrong disease.

Someone's gotta be checking this shit, though.