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« Reply #15720 on: April 12, 2016, 08:55:07 PM »
Lot of good stuff there, but I think this one is my favorite:

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« Reply #15721 on: April 12, 2016, 09:05:17 PM »
Another similarity between Sanders and Paul: both attract supporters who will pay you to deceive them. I respect Sanders enough to assume he won't be using his mailing list to milk supporters in coming years by selling...whatever is the gold equivalent for liberals.
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« Reply #15722 on: April 12, 2016, 09:45:40 PM »
I respect Sanders enough to assume he won't be using his mailing list to milk supporters in coming years by selling...whatever is the gold equivalent for liberals.

Carbon-offset Muslim abortions?

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« Reply #15723 on: April 12, 2016, 09:58:29 PM »
My black friend Tim Black of Tim Black TV :neogaf
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« Reply #15724 on: April 12, 2016, 10:02:36 PM »
When tabloid rags endorse you, nothing stands in your way. :obama


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« Reply #15725 on: April 12, 2016, 10:07:12 PM »

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« Reply #15726 on: April 12, 2016, 10:11:34 PM »
Hillary was always inevitable.  Doesn't mean people aren't going to vote Berine. But she was inevitable.
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« Reply #15727 on: April 12, 2016, 10:19:19 PM »
Hillary was always inevitable.  Doesn't mean people aren't going to vote Berine. But she was inevitable.


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« Reply #15728 on: April 12, 2016, 11:10:24 PM »
I know AIA is our resident conservative, but he seriously also a BENGHAZI!-er as well?

You getting paid to astroturf for this criminal bitch or what?

Let me know when she actually is honest about either of the following: Benghazi or Whitewater.

"Criminal" isn't an accurate term, since she has yet to face any jailtime. "Bitch" is more accurate but it also highlights the pervasive sexist attitudes Hillary Clinton has had to deal with her entire career.

Eight separate Benghazi committees, including a Republican-led committee which grilled Hillary for eight hours straight, all failed to produce anything substantial against her. The entire circus was a pointless waste of time and money, championed by the GOP in yet another desperate bid to tear a Clinton down. And it completely failed.

As for Whitewater, it's comical to bring that up against Hillary two decades later, since the Clinton's did nothing wrong and weren't convicted. That "scandal" is literally as old as I am.

Bring up her emails next, I'm waiting. (Image removed from quote.)

Let's start here

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1. Clinton originated the false narrative about a YouTube video protest — Using Clinton's emails and calls as proof, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, accused her of lying to the American people, telling them that the incident in Benghazi was a protest that got out of hand, instead of what it really was: a terrorist attack.

"So if there's no evidence for a video-inspired protest, then where did the false narrative start? It started with you, Madam Secretary," said Jordan, Real Clear Politics reported. "Here's what you said at 11 o'clock that night, approximately one hour after you told the American people it was a video, you say to your family, 'Two officers were killed today in Benghazi by an al-Qaida- like group.' You tell — you tell the American people one thing, you tell your family an entirely different story. Also on the night of the attack, you had a call with the president of Libya. Here's what you said to him: 'Ansar al-Sharia is claiming responsibility.' It's interesting; Mr. Khattala, one of the guys arrested in charge actually belonged to that group. And finally, most significantly, the next day, within 24 hours, you had a conversation with the Egyptian prime minister. You told him this: 'We know the attack in Libya had nothing to do with the film. It was a planned attack, not a protest.'"


Caught lying. Defend that and we'll move along.

That stupid quote from Jordan doesn't prove a damn thing. Here's what seems to have happened:

1. That dumbass youtube video was released by that right-wing douchebag filmmaker, and that led to protests all over the Middle East, in places like Cairo and Tunisia.
2. After the assault on BENGHAZI!, some Al Qaeda affiliated group took credit for it. This is why Hillary sent that e-mail to her daughter saying that it was a terrorist attack, because that's what the fucking terrorists said it was!
3. Sometime in the next few days after the attack, that Al Qaeda group retracted the statement taking credit for it.
4. Because that stupid youtube video caused the protests (again) ALL OVER THE MIDDLE EAST, presumably people figured that it would be reasonable to assume that the same thing happened in BENGHAZI! as well, what with also being in a Middle East country.


If you're truly serious about believing in the BENGHAZI! conspiracy, then maybe you can answer some questions for me that have been bugging me since this inane farce started.


- How does blaming Amb. Stevens death from protests and riots due to a youtube video make things easier for Obama to be re-elected?
- If Obama/Hillary were trying to "coverup" the terrorist attack by blaming it on the video, why did Obama say in a press conference THE VERY NEXT FUCKING DAY that it was a terrorist attack? (this one seems to have gotten lost in the memory hole for some reason, which is odd considering the huge deal it was during the second debate with Romney).
- We've had eight fucking investigations so far. EIGHT! And in one of them, the House Intelligence committee released a thorough report admitting that Hillary did NOTHING negligent, or misleading. Are the House Republicans on the Obama/Hillary payroll too?
- If Obama/Hillary were in fact trying to "coverup" BENGHAZI! by blaming it on a youtube video, that plan fell apart within days as everyone in the administration admitted it was due to terrorists. Was that due to brilliant DEE-tective work by Republicans?
- Are you seriously arguing that we should have sent dozens and dozens more of our HEROIC TROOPS to risk their lives to save an Obama lackey? I mean, I guess it's nice to know that conservatives (at least in this instance) value a Democrat appointee's life more than the lives of several of our brave soldiers.
- Seriously, how the fuck does letting your own Ambassador die make for GOOD politics?


edit: and this mofo actually used the "Bush kept us safe after 9/11 but we've had terrorist attacks under Obama!" card, which makes me think he's gotta be trolling.

...right?  :doge
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« Reply #15729 on: April 12, 2016, 11:11:44 PM »
What the fuck at the last page.  AiA 😂
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« Reply #15730 on: April 12, 2016, 11:25:11 PM »
Wouldn't the buck stop with Obama? Hillary was carrying out his policies right? I just find this convo weird as fuck that we're blaming anyone for this. It's not like this is 911 where you have officials ignoring security risks. This is a case of a CIA annex being hit in a war torn country we had little control of. Which goes back to my complaint that nobody gives a shit about all the embassies and govt buildings that were attacked in other countries during Bush's terms.

And this is another thing. You notice how during the election and up until some time last year, the primary target of BENGHAZI! was Obama, but just COINCIDENTALLY enough, all attention began to be focused on Hillary when it was clear she was running for president?

Yeah, total coincidence.  :doge

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« Reply #15731 on: April 13, 2016, 12:17:51 AM »
Obama soft on cripples.

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« Reply #15732 on: April 13, 2016, 12:21:37 AM »
What the fuck at the last page.  AiA 😂

He's a total clown LOL

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« Reply #15733 on: April 13, 2016, 01:43:47 AM »
This may be okay to you but it isn't okay to anyone who serves or served.



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« Reply #15735 on: April 13, 2016, 10:25:03 AM »
This may be okay to you but it isn't okay to anyone who serves or served.

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Yeah, is it frequent that the Republican party speaks of you servicemen as a monolith opinion-wise? Purely anecdotal but I feel like i've met almost as many libertarian servicemen as I have neocons as well as a smattering of people on the other side of the spectrum (please no jokes).


Your ass flap when you talk out of it?


http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/03/14/military-times-election-survey-donald-trump-bernie-sanders/81767560/

Hillary sitting at 11.7% putting her behind a marxist, an idiot, and an philanderer.   

Go sit down.

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« Reply #15736 on: April 13, 2016, 10:28:01 AM »
According to that article, they back Trump and Sanders most, but I see nothing at all that contradicts what he's saying.


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« Reply #15737 on: April 13, 2016, 10:30:21 AM »
According to that article, they back Trump and Sanders most, but I see nothing at all that contradicts what he's saying.

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He stated troops aren't republican based. Numbers say he is wrong. I wish you liberals could just accept your L's with grace instead of trying to pick at one little piece of a statement, christ it's annoying.
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« Reply #15738 on: April 13, 2016, 10:31:22 AM »


Your ass flap when you talk out of it?


http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/03/14/military-times-election-survey-donald-trump-bernie-sanders/81767560/

Hillary sitting at 11.7% putting her behind a marxist, an idiot, and an philanderer.   

Go sit down.

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 I asked a serviceman about his opinions on their representation in politics, and you went ahead and spoke for servicemen again.

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You asked 1 servicemen, I gave you the response of 100's in a non-bias manner (I know that part is hard for libs to understand)

Take your L, fatass. Your chair is over there.


Sigh....but to be real the military draws from people right in the republican wheelhouse. It's strange that 1/2 our party is in poverty but it is what it is.
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« Reply #15739 on: April 13, 2016, 10:38:16 AM »
I asked Biz for his opinion on something that isn't quantitative though, I asked him for his personal perspective.

#respectthetroops

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I thought I was talking to PD, fam    :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf


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« Reply #15740 on: April 13, 2016, 10:39:07 AM »
According to that article, they back Trump and Sanders most, but I see nothing at all that contradicts what he's saying.

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He stated troops aren't republican based. Numbers say he is wrong. I wish you liberals could just accept your L's with grace instead of trying to pick at one little piece of a statement, christ it's annoying.
No, this is what he stated, read it again:
"Purely anecdotal but I feel like i've met almost as many libertarian servicemen as I have neocons as well as a smattering of people on the other side of the spectrum (please no jokes)."

What he's saying is, they are a diverse group of people (as any other), and you went ahead and proved him right. Only you somehow think you're having an argument about something nobody said, and suprise of surprises, iny our head you're even winning.
I asked Biz for his opinion on something that isn't quantitative though, I asked him for his personal perspective.

#respectthetroops

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I thought I was talking to PD, fam    :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf


My bad Esch.
God damn, dude. You're not even that old yet. :doge

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« Reply #15741 on: April 13, 2016, 10:41:01 AM »
Army votes conservative. I was correct. Stop inventing strawman arguments


Edit: Ran my old ass directly into my glass door this morning. Probably working on concussion number 21 now  :fbm
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« Reply #15742 on: April 13, 2016, 10:44:20 AM »
Be in the military and support a presidential candidate who you know you'll likely have to disobey an order from brehs.
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« Reply #15743 on: April 13, 2016, 10:44:59 AM »
Don't challenge a pedant on pedantry, OK. :ufup

Army votes everything. More republican, but not exclusively. It's not a general election, winner takes all doesn't transfer to this domain.

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« Reply #15744 on: April 13, 2016, 10:46:28 AM »
Be in the military and support a presidential candidate who you know you'll likely have to disobey an order from brehs.

No that would be Hillary and she only getting 11 beans breh, all good.
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« Reply #15745 on: April 13, 2016, 11:15:21 AM »
I asked Biz for his opinion on something that isn't quantitative though, I asked him for his personal perspective.

#respectthetroops

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I thought I was talking to PD, fam    :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf


My bad Esch.

Damn, there goes my "AiA can only tell PD apart from the rest of us" theory.
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15746 on: April 13, 2016, 11:53:42 AM »
I think the problem was saying that one segment of the population votes and feels the same about a complicated issue. It would be like if I said that all black people were Democrats or something.

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« Reply #15747 on: April 13, 2016, 11:58:26 AM »
:drudge BREAKING NEWS :drudge

military servicemen are more conservative than liberal

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« Reply #15750 on: April 13, 2016, 01:06:38 PM »
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« Reply #15751 on: April 13, 2016, 01:19:43 PM »
https://www.warren.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=1110

good legislation. maybe it would help the sanders family get their tax returns together.

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« Reply #15752 on: April 13, 2016, 04:10:08 PM »
This may be okay to you but it isn't okay to anyone who serves or served.

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Yeah, is it frequent that the Republican party speaks of you servicemen as a monolith opinion-wise? Purely anecdotal but I feel like i've met almost as many libertarian servicemen as I have neocons as well as a smattering of people on the other side of the spectrum (please no jokes).


Your ass flap when you talk out of it?


http://www.militarytimes.com/story/military/election/2016/03/14/military-times-election-survey-donald-trump-bernie-sanders/81767560/

Hillary sitting at 11.7% putting her behind a marxist, an idiot, and an philanderer.   

Go sit down.

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I wait all day for a BENGHAZI! rebuttal only to have you switch gears to ARE TROOPS  :american :usacry

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« Reply #15753 on: April 13, 2016, 05:07:36 PM »
http://www.salon.com/2016/04/13/what_happened_to_paul_krugman_the_new_york_times_columnist_isnt_making_sense_partner/
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He's been a voice of reason for decades, but Bernie derangement syndrome appears to be getting the best of him

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/276078-clintons-dismal-approval-ratings-prompt-dem-fears
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Hillary Clinton’s favorability ratings are historically low and increasingly a concern for her supporters.

Clinton is now viewed unfavorably by 55 percent of the electorate, according to the HuffPost Pollster average, which tracks findings from 42 different polling outfits. Only 40.2 percent of people view her favorably, according to that average.
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Even Democrats acknowledge those findings are a problem.

“They’re pretty bad,” said Democratic strategist Brad Bannon, who connected the poor poll numbers to separate findings that show a broad number of Americans don’t trust Clinton.

“The No. 1 reason that her favorability is so bad is that you have large numbers of Americans who say they don’t trust her,” he said. “I could make it sound more complicated than that, but that’s really what it is. Voters see her as the ultimate politician, who will do or say anything to get elected.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/04/12/hillary-clintons-claim-that-the-highest-per-capita-number-of-crime-guns-in-new-york-come-from-vermont/
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The Clinton campaign said that controlling for population is a “critically important number, as it shows just how dangerous Vermont’s laws are relative to other states. If Vermont had the population of California, it would source roughly 3,800 crime guns each year to New York — far more than the top 15 total source states for New York crime guns combined.”

This combined with the thug colored people time scandal probably indicates that the party needs to oust Debbie and save itself at the convention by blocking the increasingly senile and racist Hillary Clinton campaign for bird-endorsed Bernie Sanders.

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15754 on: April 13, 2016, 06:21:26 PM »
This is probably the first election where both nominees will have high unfavorables.  The fuckery is going to be amazing because each candidate will try to prove the other one sucks more than they do.
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« Reply #15755 on: April 13, 2016, 06:26:05 PM »
Yeah. Whoever ends up in the republican seat (Cruz) will have a swathe of the party who hates them.
Like I said Hillary was always inevitable. Yeah, she'll get the votes but its hard to act excited about something that is inevitable.
This is going to be a weird election. I can't remember one where people were so unexcited about the candidates. No one liked Romney but the Obama folks were excited. Kerry didn't get people excited but Bush had a huge ardent base. Bush vs Gore was a slug fest. This time it seems most of the voting population is unexcited in both camps, it's more about voting against the opposition.
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« Reply #15756 on: April 13, 2016, 06:51:39 PM »
If Hillary Clinton Treated Jewish Americans Like She’s Treated African Americans, Democrats Would Notice

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Perhaps as a white Jew, I have the luxury to make these observations, without needing to abide by “political pragmatism,” but there’s nothing pragmatic about FBI investigations or Clinton’s negative favorability ratings in every national poll.

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« Reply #15758 on: April 13, 2016, 07:14:52 PM »
Hillary's a nimrod, but she doesn't deserve to have such high unfavorables. It's all a result of two things: BENGHAZI! and e-mailgate. Both of which seem to breed significant mistrust among voters, despite 99% of them not being able to articulate what the problem with either actually is. It also gives the media an easy way to portray her negatively in order to maintain "balance" when she eventually runs against either Trump or Cruz.

"Sure, Mr. Trump has said that he would be willing to deploy nuclear weapons on our European allies, but it's not like Secretary Clinton has any right to criticize, what with her having a private e-mail server. :smug"
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« Reply #15759 on: April 13, 2016, 08:02:42 PM »
Hillary's a nimrod, but she doesn't deserve to have such high unfavorables. It's all a result of two things: BENGHAZI! and e-mailgate. Both of which seem to breed significant mistrust among voters, despite 99% of them not being able to articulate what the problem with either actually is. It also gives the media an easy way to portray her negatively in order to maintain "balance" when she eventually runs against either Trump or Cruz.

"Sure, Mr. Trump has said that he would be willing to deploy nuclear weapons on our European allies, but it's not like Secretary Clinton has any right to criticize, what with her having a private e-mail server. :smug"

Hillary's problems run deeper and go further back than that.

She's been "embroiled" in a bunch of BS, nothingburger scandals for decades- shit like Whitewater, Vince Foster, Hillarycare, blah blah blah that the right has been throwing at her for forever.

Here's the thing: they do that to anyone on that stage. They did the same to Bill, too, and Obama. The difference between Obama and Hillary (and to a much larger extent, Bill) is that Obama doesn't make the same unforced errors that Hillary does. Think about it- can you imagine Obama making Wall St. speeches if he knew he was going to run? Having a private email server? Fuck no. Obama just sits there being competent (despite what the AiAs of the world would have you believe) making the accusations look stupid.

The Clintons do dumb shit. It's not even illegal or probably even unethical shit, but if you're running for President, or think you want to, you don't do shit like the Goldman Sachs speeches, the private email server, and if you're Bill you don't fuck everything that will let you. You don't give your opponents petty shit to throw at you that feeds their narrative that you're shady and incompetent.

That's Hillary's biggest problem, imo. Is there anything wrong or illegal with making those speeches and that email server? Technically, no. But when you're Hillary F'n Clinton and you're running for President, just don't give them even that petty shit to throw at you. Make them look even crazier.
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« Reply #15761 on: April 13, 2016, 08:05:34 PM »
Hillary's a nimrod, but she doesn't deserve to have such high unfavorables. It's all a result of two things: BENGHAZI! and e-mailgate. Both of which seem to breed significant mistrust among voters, despite 99% of them not being able to articulate what the problem with either actually is. It also gives the media an easy way to portray her negatively in order to maintain "balance" when she eventually runs against either Trump or Cruz.

"Sure, Mr. Trump has said that he would be willing to deploy nuclear weapons on our European allies, but it's not like Secretary Clinton has any right to criticize, what with her having a private e-mail server. :smug"

Hillary's problems run deeper and go further back than that.

She's been "embroiled" in a bunch of BS, nothingburger scandals for decades- shit like Whitewater, Vince Foster, Hillarycare, blah blah blah that the right has been throwing at her for forever.

Here's the thing: they do that to anyone on that stage. They did the same to Bill, too, and Obama. The difference between Obama and Hillary (and to a much larger extent, Bill) is that Obama doesn't make the same unforced errors that Hillary does. Think about it- can you imagine Obama making Wall St. speeches if he knew he was going to run? Having a private email server? Fuck no. Obama just sits there being competent (despite what the AiAs of the world would have you believe) making the accusations look stupid.

The Clintons do dumb shit. It's not even illegal or probably even unethical shit, but if you're running for President, or think you want to, you don't do shit like the Goldman Sachs speeches, the private email server, and if you're Bill you don't fuck everything that will let you. You don't give your opponents petty shit to throw at you that feeds their narrative that you're shady and incompetent.

That's Hillary's biggest problem, imo. Is there anything wrong or illegal with making those speeches and that email server? Technically, no. But when you're Hillary F'n Clinton and you're running for President, just don't give them even that petty shit to throw at you. Make them look even crazier.

I agree with all that. I will say though that almost every presidency would be viewed unfavorably compared to Obama's scandal-free eight entire years.

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« Reply #15762 on: April 13, 2016, 08:07:36 PM »
No drama Obama

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He had to do it, too. I'm sure he's going to write a really good memoir and acknowledge the fact that he couldn't ever be perceived as "angry" despite his personal feelings at any time. Good thing he's half Vulcan or whatever.
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« Reply #15763 on: April 13, 2016, 08:12:00 PM »
Lucky Pon Farr timing, too. :whew

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« Reply #15764 on: April 13, 2016, 08:12:53 PM »
Hillary's a nimrod, but she doesn't deserve to have such high unfavorables. It's all a result of two things: BENGHAZI! and e-mailgate. Both of which seem to breed significant mistrust among voters, despite 99% of them not being able to articulate what the problem with either actually is. It also gives the media an easy way to portray her negatively in order to maintain "balance" when she eventually runs against either Trump or Cruz.

"Sure, Mr. Trump has said that he would be willing to deploy nuclear weapons on our European allies, but it's not like Secretary Clinton has any right to criticize, what with her having a private e-mail server. :smug"

Hillary's problems run deeper and go further back than that.

She's been "embroiled" in a bunch of BS, nothingburger scandals for decades- shit like Whitewater, Vince Foster, Hillarycare, blah blah blah that the right has been throwing at her for forever.

Here's the thing: they do that to anyone on that stage. They did the same to Bill, too, and Obama. The difference between Obama and Hillary (and to a much larger extent, Bill) is that Obama doesn't make the same unforced errors that Hillary does. Think about it- can you imagine Obama making Wall St. speeches if he knew he was going to run? Having a private email server? Fuck no. Obama just sits there being competent (despite what the AiAs of the world would have you believe) making the accusations look stupid.

The Clintons do dumb shit. It's not even illegal or probably even unethical shit, but if you're running for President, or think you want to, you don't do shit like the Goldman Sachs speeches, the private email server, and if you're Bill you don't fuck everything that will let you. You don't give your opponents petty shit to throw at you that feeds their narrative that you're shady and incompetent.

That's Hillary's biggest problem, imo. Is there anything wrong or illegal with making those speeches and that email server? Technically, no. But when you're Hillary F'n Clinton and you're running for President, just don't give them even that petty shit to throw at you. Make them look even crazier.

Hillary had a brief period where she had pretty sky high approval ratings as SoS (60-70%). It only started coming down after benghazi and the e-mail server.

I do agree overall though.

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« Reply #15765 on: April 13, 2016, 08:19:48 PM »
This is a rabidly anti-incumbent election season and Hillary is as machine politician as one gets.  Not hard to figure out why nobody (except Andrex) likes her.
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« Reply #15766 on: April 13, 2016, 08:36:44 PM »
This is a rabidly anti-incumbent election season and Hillary is as machine politician as one gets.  Not hard to figure out why nobody (except Andrex) likes her.

TIL 40.2% of people is "nobody."

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« Reply #15767 on: April 13, 2016, 08:41:09 PM »
Ah, you're right, most people dislike her.  I'm glad you were able to clear that up.

Kind of reminds me of Dubya's last days when he had rock bottom approval ratings and Republicans would be like "nuh uh, there's still 35% who still think he's doing a good job!"
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« Reply #15768 on: April 13, 2016, 09:11:00 PM »
Hillary had a brief period where she had pretty sky high approval ratings as SoS (60-70%).
Most politicians tend to have good approval ratings when they're out of sight, out of mind.

"Hillary visited [X] and held meeting with President [Y]" is a different page twenty-seven story compared to the front page "Hillary attacks elderly former New Yorker, promises to draft and then drink the blood of the young" stories.

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« Reply #15769 on: April 13, 2016, 09:21:25 PM »
Trump, of course yet again, being a notable exception.

His approval was in the toilet from the beginning, then he started making xenophobic comments and bashing Jeb and he actually turned positive for a while (at least among Republicans) before the voting started and he cratered again.


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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15771 on: April 13, 2016, 11:27:51 PM »
Hillary had a brief period where she had pretty sky high approval ratings as SoS (60-70%).
Most politicians tend to have good approval ratings when they're out of sight, out of mind.

"Hillary visited [X] and held meeting with President [Y]" is a different page twenty-seven story compared to the front page "Hillary attacks elderly former New Yorker, promises to draft and then drink the blood of the young" stories.

Exactly- she had really high favorables when she was Sec of State and wasn't running (or expected to run) for anything. Those probably took a hit after BRRRRRRRRNGHAAAAAAAAAAZIIIIIIII but that was towards the end of 2012 anyway.
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« Reply #15773 on: April 13, 2016, 11:38:08 PM »
I can't wait for you to be proven wrong in November.
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« Reply #15774 on: April 13, 2016, 11:56:07 PM »


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Ambush Bug7 hours ago
Deport this bitch.
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Chris Houston3 hours ago (edited)
This bitch an Indian anchor baby.
"I know what I am getting with the Clintonian policies"
Yeah, more call centers in India for YOUR people.
More lousy Indian Tech workers who don't have a clue how to write code.
These people are Trojan Horses to bring millions of cheap labor to America
and make us a minority in our own country.
She is a founder of the Indian American Conservative Council and their stated goal is for the US to rely on India for manufacturing and not China.These people are NOT American.
 DEPORT HER.
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What kind of name is that? What has happened to our country??
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No, you're called a traitor to your country if vote for Hitlery.  That is if the Mexicunt is really from this country.
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S955US842 hours ago
Looks like another illegal - and if anybody is off the deep end it's this nitwit.
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So she is going to usurp the power of The People? WTF? Arrest the bitch! And for god's sake end women's suffrage.
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« Reply #15775 on: April 14, 2016, 12:08:04 AM »
This is a rabidly anti-incumbent election season

Incumbents gonna lose more than usual?  Lots of credible primary challenges?  This actually a thing or just shit people are saying?

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« Reply #15776 on: April 14, 2016, 12:15:26 AM »
Johm McCain's got a serious primary challenger:
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On April 15, 2014, Ward traveled to Mesquite, Nevada to support Cliven Bundy in his standoff with the Bureau of Land Management.[9][10][11] Most other former supporters of Bundy had already condemned him for his racist remarks against Mexicans and African Americans.[12][13][14][15][16][17]

Defense of Donald Sterling[edit]
Ward defended disgraced Clippers owner Donald Sterling, who was banned from the NBA for life and fined $2.5 million by the league after private recordings of him making racist comments were made public.[18] Ward stated that he had a right to free speech under the first amendment, and should not have lost his ownership of the team.[19][20]

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On June 25, 2014, Ward, in response to concerns from a vocal minority, held a town hall meeting in Kingman, Arizona, part of the district she represents, to have an exchange about environmental quality, but also discussed the Chemtrail conspiracy theory. [21] Ward also brought in a spokesperson from the Arizona Department of Environmental Quality to answer questions on soil and water quality, including questions concerning the Chemtrail theory. She was quoted after the meeting saying, "I'm not sure there's anything that Arizona can do, but it's good to get the information out." [22] Ward told KNTR radio on June 27, 2014 that although she doesn't "believe in Chemtrails" herself, it's her "responsibility to address the concerns" of the varied groups of her constituents and "a town hall made sense." Ward, however, also stated in an interview in March 2015, "I don't really have any opinions about 'chemtrails' one way or the other. I think that environmental quality, though, is very important." [23] In April, 2015, Ward re-stated she did not believe in "chemtrails."[24]
That he's beating by 35-40 points.

Not to mention that neither the GOP nor Democrats seem to want to nominate an incumbent or former President.

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« Reply #15777 on: April 14, 2016, 12:22:18 AM »
This is a rabidly anti-incumbent election season

Incumbents gonna lose more than usual?  Lots of credible primary challenges?  This actually a thing or just shit people are saying?

From what I can tell Obama v1 was way, way more anti-incumbant lol.

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« Reply #15778 on: April 14, 2016, 12:28:59 AM »
Yeah that's how easy it was to find, fucktard. Nice retort

But it wasn't relevant to the point you were trying to make, chief.

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« Reply #15779 on: April 14, 2016, 02:41:53 AM »