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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15780 on: April 14, 2016, 03:39:42 AM »
This is a rabidly anti-incumbent election season

Incumbents gonna lose more than usual?  Lots of credible primary challenges?  This actually a thing or just shit people are saying?
I don't think it's anti incumbent per se, but the biggest Hillary problem on her left is that she is establishment incarnate.
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« Reply #15781 on: April 14, 2016, 03:42:05 AM »
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15782 on: April 14, 2016, 04:01:29 AM »
You're confused that a dynastic candidate, 100% backed by its party machine, former member of government, viewed as in the pocket of finance would appear establishment ?  :doge

Trump and Sanders are surfing a lot on their perceived outsider status. It's always been a thing to advertise yourself as some real dude not part of the DC elite, but it's never single handedly carried a couple of fringe profiles this close to the White House. General growing distrust in a "system" or "establishment" mostly perpetuating the statu quo is a thing in a lot if not all Western liberal democracies. First election of Obama was clearly about the hope that he could overcome the dysfunctional headlock your current institutions are in and bring some fresh blood in it.

A lot of people have the impression they're getting fucked in the ass by the current economic model and that politics have capitulated changing any of that to instead perpetuate their cushy jobs. It's hard to fault them, because it certainly looks like it.
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« Reply #15783 on: April 14, 2016, 05:01:35 AM »
This may be okay to you but it isn't okay to anyone who serves or served.

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Yeah, is it frequent that the Republican party speaks of you servicemen as a monolith opinion-wise? Purely anecdotal but I feel like i've met almost as many libertarian servicemen as I have neocons as well as a smattering of people on the other side of the spectrum (please no jokes).

Lots of people and groups talk about veterans as a single block (and in more damaging ways than mere political preferences e.g. PTSD). My issue specifically with AIA’s post is that he is speaking for all past and present service members when he has never served himself.

This may be okay to you, AIA, but it isn't okay to anyone who serves or served.


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« Reply #15784 on: April 14, 2016, 05:09:13 AM »
That just frees him from being blinded out of a loyalty that stops him from seeing what's actually okay or not for those who served.

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15785 on: April 14, 2016, 08:22:30 AM »
There's an anti establishment wind...yet Obama is pretty damn popular right now. Hillary being unpopular is more to do with her than any macro movement among voters IMO. If democrats had a likable heir to run he or she would be looking like gold right now. Obviously Hillary is going to dominate Cruz or Trump tho so it doesn't really matter...
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15786 on: April 14, 2016, 08:27:29 AM »
You know, it is going to kill her if Hillary has to follow Obama. No chance she can be half as influential or well put together as he is. She's 1 term if she does squeak out a victory, that's for sure.
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« Reply #15788 on: April 14, 2016, 09:09:31 AM »
Yeah that's how easy it was to find, fucktard. Nice retort

But it wasn't relevant to the point you were trying to make, chief.
I told him as much already. He doesn't care. :yeshrug

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« Reply #15789 on: April 14, 2016, 10:58:27 AM »
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15794 on: April 14, 2016, 11:27:43 AM »
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3538882/Tulane-University-fraternity-causes-uproar-campus-erecting-Trump-wall.html

https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/720361990422573056?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

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What is it about fraternity life in colleges south of the mason-dixon line that makes them completely distinguished mentally-challenged?

Edit: It's all fun and games until you get them beefy O-liners pissed off. Best part is how those dudes wanted no part of them.
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15795 on: April 14, 2016, 11:36:58 AM »
Not so tough now eh frat boys?
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« Reply #15797 on: April 14, 2016, 12:27:36 PM »
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I really don't like these people.

I guarantee that crowd smells like patchouli and body odor.  :kobeyuck
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15798 on: April 14, 2016, 12:30:23 PM »
Not so tough now eh frat boys?

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15799 on: April 14, 2016, 02:04:33 PM »
Insanity is a highly pronounced, well known feature of the southern psyche. That's why Sherman did what he did, the man knew there was no other way of getting through to your average white southern male.
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« Reply #15800 on: April 14, 2016, 02:34:18 PM »
There's a billboard now in Oakland that says something to the effect of "politics won't give you free college, but Bernie will!" and it summed up all my problems with Bernie and his supporters in one simple advertisement.
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« Reply #15801 on: April 14, 2016, 02:47:41 PM »
There's a billboard now in Oakland that says something to the effect of "politics won't give you free college, but Bernie will!" and it summed up all my problems with Bernie and his supporters in one simple advertisement.
I wonder if that actually approved by him or his campaign because if so.... Jeeeeeeeeez


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« Reply #15803 on: April 14, 2016, 03:28:50 PM »
There's a billboard now in Oakland that says something to the effect of "politics won't give you free college, but Bernie will!" and it summed up all my problems with Bernie and his supporters in one simple advertisement.
I wonder if that actually approved by him or his campaign because if so.... Jeeeeeeeeez
It's not, but man, people are going to be let down no matter what happens:

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« Reply #15804 on: April 14, 2016, 03:35:45 PM »
ratings guesses on tonight's debate?


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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf |OT| Scott Adams is actually the worst
« Reply #15806 on: April 14, 2016, 05:05:38 PM »
You know, it is going to kill her if Hillary has to follow Obama. No chance she can be half as influential or well put together as he is. She's 1 term if she does squeak out a victory, that's for sure.

So it seems that just like the American People, I too, will not be getting any answers on BENGHAZI!  :fbm

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« Reply #15807 on: April 14, 2016, 05:13:06 PM »
Most Bernie Sanders supporters aren't willing to pay for his revolution

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Bernie's issue is that he hasn't really thought things through. He's right about the issues, just not how to fix them. The problem with healthcare is the system, not just who pays for it. The problem with higher education is the culture and the system, not who pays for it. Further, his approach is just to up spending where he should first implement cuts.

All that being said, I have no problem voting for him in the primary because at least he sees shit is broken, whereas a vote for Hillary is a vote for things to remain the same.

Now if he were in the general? :doge
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« Reply #15808 on: April 14, 2016, 05:19:23 PM »
Perhaps the most asinine narrative of this election is the idea that Sanders voters are the most well researched participators in our democracy, whereas Hillary voters (especially if they're black  :doge ) are misguided or voting because The Establishment told them to. When in reality Sanders doesn't have a single concrete plan for...well, anything. All his shit is ducktales. And if you disagree with him you're either an establishment goon or dare to underestimate the magic of a Political Revolution Changing Everything.

TBH this shit makes me long for 07/08 where Hillary, Edwards, and Obama were releasing detailed plans on various shit that could actually be implemented.
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« Reply #15809 on: April 14, 2016, 05:40:02 PM »
Clearly you have drank the Clinton News Network koolaid, PD.  And we all know what favour that comes in.  Pretty sure you should listen to rich white 20 yearolds if you want actual hope and not 08 false promises. 



What is it about these people that make you think they don't have a serious action plan?

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« Reply #15810 on: April 14, 2016, 06:14:17 PM »
Arvie,
How dare you make light of these people's plan. Did you not see the sign "Hope" not "Hate"
THAT'S the plan. Duh!
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« Reply #15811 on: April 14, 2016, 06:16:32 PM »
I thought that point only applied to headlines. 

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« Reply #15812 on: April 14, 2016, 06:30:49 PM »
Nope. That's Bernie's whole plan.
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« Reply #15813 on: April 14, 2016, 08:28:49 PM »
http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/04/13/hillary-clinton-gets-tepid-response-at-black-activist-conference/?_r=0
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A week after her husband had a tense encounter with black protesters, Hillary Clinton on Wednesday received a lukewarm response from a gathering of black leaders and voters in New York.
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The gathering was somber this year, as Mr. Sharpton and other keynote speakers bemoaned that in January a white president will be inaugurated to replace the nation’s first black president. “It’s going to be a real hard day for us,” said Angela Rye, chief executive of the consulting firm Impact Strategies, who spoke before Mrs. Clinton.

Addressing the crowd, John D. Podesta, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman and a former aide to President Obama, said, “I don’t just want it to be the first time a white president replaces a black president, but the first time a woman replaces a man president.”

The crowd was silent.
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But Akua Harris, 71, a retired city employee, was not moved by Mrs. Clinton’s remarks and doubted she would feel any differently about Mr. Sanders’s speech on Thursday. “Talk is cheap,” she said. “These politicians come in and tell you what you want to hear. They all promise things to black people and don’t deliver.”

Asked whether Mr. Obama was a typical politician, Ms. Harris said he was not. “That’s different,” she said. “He wanted to get things done, and the Congress blocked him.”

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/14/hey_democrats_stop_gloating_your_party_is_imploding_right_before_your_eyes_too/
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The reason he keeps beating Hillary Clinton is because a huge portion of the electorate—particularly young voters—is yearning for the kind of explicit social justice he’s prescribing. To put it bluntly: he’s articulating a moral vision, not an electoral path to the White House.

And that, frankly, is what the Democratic Party used to do, back in the era of the New Deal and the Great Society. It offered as its essential pitch to voters a compassionate and responsive government that sought to combat — or at least mitigate — the corrosive values of a capitalist theocracy.

What does the modern Democratic Party offer? The strategy put forward by Bill Clinton was called “triangulation.” And while it may have worked in an electoral sense, the de facto result was a strategy of appeasement that left Democrats pushing conservative policies: welfare reform, tax cuts, financial deregulation.

Obama’s signature legislative achievement, the Affordable Care Act, is essentially the program Bob Dole proposed back in 1993. His solution to our suicidal dependence on fossil fuels—cap-and-trade—is yet another recycled Republican idea.

The modern Democratic Party, in other words, has chosen to enable — and in many cases sponsor—policies that have allowed capitalism to act like a giant centrifuge, concentrating wealth and power in the hands of the few to the detriment of the many.

This is why a majority of Democratic primary voters not only identify as liberal but believe that socialism has a (gasp!) positive impact on society.

The underlying message of the Sanders campaign is that rank and file democrats no longer believe in capitalism as a guiding force in our economy or, especially, in our politics. And they are identifying mainstream Democrats — from Hillary Clinton to DNC chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz—as defenders of a status quo that amounts to crony capitalism.
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In squaring off against Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton never had to face such stark questions about her own integrity, because both of them were willing to exploit the corruptions of the campaign finance system. They passed for liberal, because they were the only options.

For the first time since the Great Society, a candidate has staked out authentically progressive positions: bleeding private money from politics, reforming our criminal justice system, insuring education and health care as rights. And paying for these programs by rolling back the massive tax breaks of the past few decades, and closing the corporate loopholes.
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Hillary Clinton will probably be the Democratic nominee for president, and will in all likelihood beat Donald Trump or Ted Cruz, if either one is her opponent. But beating an unpopular right-wing lunatic will not mend the rift among Democrats. It will only forestall a broader and more divisive fight for the soul of the party.

The center cannot hold. A growing plurality of democratic voters wants a true progressive agenda. If Clinton and party insiders ignore this reality, such voters will begin to look elsewhere. They will not view themselves as having left the Party. The Party will have left them.

When is she going to drop out? The people have spoken by voting against her time and time again. By waiting for the indictments she's just prolonging the pain and letting it bring down everyone around her. Selfish.

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« Reply #15814 on: April 14, 2016, 08:33:10 PM »
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The gathering was somber this year, as Mr. Sharpton and other keynote speakers bemoaned that in January a white president will be inaugurated to replace the nation’s first black president. “It’s going to be a real hard day for us,” said Angela Rye, chief executive of the consulting firm Impact Strategies, who spoke before Mrs. Clinton.

Addressing the crowd, John D. Podesta, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman and a former aide to President Obama, said, “I don’t just want it to be the first time a white president replaces a black president, but the first time a woman replaces a man president.”

The crowd was silent.
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Identity politics, man. Daps to Obama. I shouldn't have been surprised that some were upset and "disappointed" that he dare nominate a white man to the Supreme Court.
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« Reply #15815 on: April 14, 2016, 09:37:42 PM »
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The gathering was somber this year, as Mr. Sharpton and other keynote speakers bemoaned that in January a white president will be inaugurated to replace the nation’s first black president.

But what about the nation's first black President being replaced by the nation's first Latino President? :hitler
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« Reply #15816 on: April 14, 2016, 09:40:44 PM »
Or the nation's first Kenyan President being replaced by the nation's first Canadian president???
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« Reply #15817 on: April 14, 2016, 10:22:08 PM »
Or the nation's first Kenyan President
Jeez, Hillary supporters can't forgive anyone who dares challenge yas queen.

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« Reply #15818 on: April 14, 2016, 10:41:57 PM »
So glad Hillary is getting shit on over Israel. The repub / democrat AIPAC deepthroating getting put on blast gives me life.

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« Reply #15819 on: April 15, 2016, 12:07:04 AM »
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The gathering was somber this year, as Mr. Sharpton and other keynote speakers bemoaned that in January a white president will be inaugurated to replace the nation’s first black president. “It’s going to be a real hard day for us,” said Angela Rye, chief executive of the consulting firm Impact Strategies, who spoke before Mrs. Clinton.

Addressing the crowd, John D. Podesta, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign chairman and a former aide to President Obama, said, “I don’t just want it to be the first time a white president replaces a black president, but the first time a woman replaces a man president.”

The crowd was silent.
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Identity politics, man. Daps to Obama. I shouldn't have been surprised that some were upset and "disappointed" that he dare nominate a white man to the Supreme Court.

Their problem is that they believed in a contextual over extension of the once you go black adage.  I sympathize with their disappointment. 

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« Reply #15820 on: April 15, 2016, 12:30:00 AM »
Prediction: Hillary will win the nomination with a majority of the popular vote, elected delegates, and contests won but we'll still hear how superdelegates threw the nomination to her.  I'll probably be #wellactually-ing people about that in 2025.

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« Reply #15821 on: April 15, 2016, 10:26:15 AM »
By backing her publicly so early they were perverting the Democratic process by making things tougher on Bernie!

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« Reply #15822 on: April 15, 2016, 12:33:15 PM »
Prediction: Hillary will win the nomination with a majority of the popular vote, elected delegates, and contests won but we'll still hear how superdelegates threw the nomination to her.  I'll probably be #wellactually-ing people about that in 2025.

During lunch at work today the guy next to me was literally saying superdelegates are the only reason Hillary will win and "what's even the point of democracy then?" Had to just smile and nod like my queen.


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« Reply #15823 on: April 15, 2016, 01:08:27 PM »
https://twitter.com/ZekeJMiller/status/720991032523894784

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There's nothing here remotely hinting some sort of endorsement by the pope ?
Funniest thing is rather Bernie "endorsing" the words of the head of the catholic church.
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« Reply #15824 on: April 15, 2016, 01:12:49 PM »
Uh, they are pretty clearly making it look like the pope is endorsing Bernie.
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« Reply #15825 on: April 15, 2016, 01:24:05 PM »
Here's the facts.

- The trip will be through the NY primary on Tuesday.
- The Pope won't be in Italy when Bernie is there.
- He has only ten minutes to talk.
- Vatican officials dispute that he was invited by them.

This campaign, man. :dunno

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« Reply #15826 on: April 15, 2016, 01:25:36 PM »
Why is this pope stuff surprising? I mean, he already believes in magical jews.
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« Reply #15827 on: April 15, 2016, 01:28:42 PM »
Shouldn't Sanders be courting the Archbishop of Canterbury instead of the establishment/Vatican?  :doge
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« Reply #15828 on: April 15, 2016, 01:32:38 PM »
Shouldn't Sanders be courting the Archbishop of Canterbury instead of the establishment/Vatican?  :doge

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« Reply #15829 on: April 15, 2016, 02:54:40 PM »
Uh, they are pretty clearly making it look like the pope is endorsing Bernie.

In that poster or macro I linked ? I don't see it. It's very obviously designed to let you think that great minds think alike, but it's no more hinting at an endorsement than Ghandi in an Apple ad.

The things Tasty Meat mention however are a bit more of political showmanship trying to paint a bigger connection than there is.
Funnily enough there was a fake quote of the pope endorsing Sanders being run in pardoy sites a few month ago :lol
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« Reply #15830 on: April 15, 2016, 04:05:45 PM »
Ghandi's dead though.

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« Reply #15832 on: April 15, 2016, 04:42:12 PM »
Another bernie billboard popped up that says "politics as usual won't end student debt and make college tuition free, Bernie will"

 :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf
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« Reply #15833 on: April 15, 2016, 04:45:48 PM »
 :beli

Fuck. Bernie man, come on. Student debt is a serious issue. The cost of higher ed is a serious issue. How can you around treating it like it's gonna be a free handout? No one is going to take those issues seriously now. You've made it so much more difficult for the next person that tries to actually solve this.

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« Reply #15834 on: April 15, 2016, 04:56:02 PM »
Another bernie billboard popped up that says "politics as usual won't end student debt and make college tuition free, Bernie will"

 :neogaf :neogaf :neogaf

sounds like politics as usual
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« Reply #15835 on: April 15, 2016, 07:26:57 PM »
Honestly part of me wishes he won the nom and presidency just so we could watch him fail in the WH. Not because I want to see Sanders fail, but moreso because I'd be entertained by his fans calling him a sellout if he dares sign anything that's a compromise.
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« Reply #15836 on: April 15, 2016, 07:40:44 PM »


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« Reply #15837 on: April 15, 2016, 08:13:26 PM »
Hillary was right to fear Elizabeth Warren entering the race, not only would she be whipping up a lot of the same fervor that Bernie's tapped into, but she'd be doing a much better job of grounding her progressive policies. Hell, if it was Bernie, Liz, and Hill-dawg, I can't even say for certain who the front runner at that point would be.

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« Reply #15838 on: April 15, 2016, 08:29:06 PM »
Bernie has turned into the 7th grader running for class president by promising more dances, more vending machines, and less homework
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« Reply #15839 on: April 15, 2016, 10:15:30 PM »
:beli

Fuck. Bernie man, come on. Student debt is a serious issue. The cost of higher ed is a serious issue. How can you around treating it like it's gonna be a free handout? No one is going to take those issues seriously now. You've made it so much more difficult for the next person that tries to actually solve this.

 :snoop
This seems like an unfair burden to place on Sanders alone.