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« Reply #16620 on: May 19, 2016, 09:18:28 AM »
Hilary may be weaker than Sanders in the rust belt but she's still way stronger with over-30s, minorities, and women.

Sanders would have to do way more to attract Hillary voters if he won the nom than Hillary will have to for Sanders voters.

Also, you hear about Bernie supporters more IRL because of the demographics you've surrounded yourself with, and because that demo is more loud/excitable about politics in general (though turn out to vote in fewer numbers, relatively.)

(I'm mid 30's)

Heh, I live in a condo complex that's almost completely 50+ empty-nesters... see a few Trump stickers and a few Bernie stickers, not as many Hillary ones as you'd expect. Coworkers are a mix of age ranges from mid 20's to mid 60's and it's the same. The women I know around my age range are almost completely in support of Bernie.

Anyways, even if Bernie is weak with minority voters... do you really think they will choose Trump over him if he was the nom :P
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« Reply #16621 on: May 19, 2016, 10:01:20 AM »
A .org address, what was lp.us taken? :scust

Why would a party that breaks bread with RT have a .us domain? They're clearly unamerican. :american

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« Reply #16622 on: May 19, 2016, 03:39:49 PM »
When I opened my copy of that issue (they usually mail them in discreet cellophane wrapping, which I as an underground communist appreciate--I live with registered Green Party members after all) I'm not going to lie, I did sigh and roll my eyes a little at the branding and presentation of the topic.

It's still an article with 35+ real sources (I noticed there were quite a few citations of articles from the magazine itself, so I subtracted an arbitrary number from the 51 official citations to account for this incestuousness) that paints a pretty cohesive (if conspiratorial) history of the current healthcare system.

Just read it and it feels oddly pointless.  It's making an argument that's been widely accepted even among center-left squishes for years (a NHS would be cheaper and better than a private-public hodgepodge) and basically punts on the question of political feasibility, saying we can have a NHS once we've gotten rid of capitalism.

I suppose the point of fringe politics is largely to keep an expanded sense of the possible and not get bogged down in the minutiae (the public option!!!!), but I just don't feel like it works well as a history of health policy in the US or an explanation of the economic/political context of the ACA.  What am I meant to take from this?

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« Reply #16623 on: May 19, 2016, 03:55:46 PM »
Free jetski with Bernie.
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« Reply #16624 on: May 19, 2016, 04:49:59 PM »
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Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson has chosen former Massachusetts Gov. William Weld as his running mate,
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Billionaire businessman and philanthropist David Koch has pledged “tens of millions of dollars” to help bankroll the campaign of Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson, according to a source within Johnson’s campaign.
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But after publication, the spokesman told TheDC: “Reports that David Koch has pledged his support to Gary Johnson – or any candidate running for president for that matter – are untrue.”

Despite that denial, a source with a leadership position in the Libertarian Party told The Daily Caller Thursday afternoon that Johnson’s on track to receive the billionaire’s support.

“In the event that a Johnson/[Bill] Weld ticket emerges from the convention, a pathway is in place for significant funding from Koch, [Steve] Wynn and other large donors,” the source said.
:rejoice Greatest VP pick in history, The Party's sugar daddy is back home, 1% here we come. :rejoice

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« Reply #16625 on: May 19, 2016, 04:52:55 PM »

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« Reply #16626 on: May 19, 2016, 05:54:35 PM »
Just read it and it feels oddly pointless.  It's making an argument that's been widely accepted even among center-left squishes for years (a NHS would be cheaper and better than a private-public hodgepodge) and basically punts on the question of political feasibility, saying we can have a NHS once we've gotten rid of capitalism.

I suppose the point of fringe politics is largely to keep an expanded sense of the possible and not get bogged down in the minutiae (the public option!!!!), but I just don't feel like it works well as a history of health policy in the US or an explanation of the economic/political context of the ACA.  What am I meant to take from this?

The argument of the article is that what we have is the product of a specific process (constructed by the author with a litany of globalization canards), not that a NHS style system would be better. The NHS is discussed to establish that the Affordable Care Act is strictly inferior to other options. There's also an ancillary impossibilist argument against moving to something better, but it's (ironically given what prompted this tangent in the first place) discussed in a Jacobin-esque concluding segment.

You choose to answer the question "Why do we have a strictly inferior system?" as a Panglossian, so I can see why an argument that attempts to answer that question with a road map is pointless to you.

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« Reply #16627 on: May 20, 2016, 12:47:25 AM »
If that's the main question it's asking, it's a deeply odd decision only discuss major reform proposals going back to 1993.

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« Reply #16628 on: May 20, 2016, 03:21:11 PM »
https://twitter.com/jonathanweisman/status/733292927229792257

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edit: he's RTing all the filth Trump supporters are sending him, wooow
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« Reply #16629 on: May 20, 2016, 07:44:49 PM »
Funny thing is Trump himself hasn't slandered the chosen people the way he has Muslims, Mexicans, black people, etc.  If anything he's a ham-handed philo-semite (an equal housing lawsuit against Trump's dad said the Trumps believed that Jews made the best tenants).

But his treatment of the other groups has brought him a dedicated following of edgelord racists.  So fucking weird that he's becoming the candidate of the Likudniks and the antisemitic alt-right.

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« Reply #16630 on: May 20, 2016, 08:02:25 PM »
Funny thing is Trump himself hasn't slandered the chosen people the way he has Muslims, Mexicans, black people, etc.  If anything he's a ham-handed philo-semite (an equal housing lawsuit against Trump's dad said the Trumps believed that Jews made the best tenants).

But his treatment of the other groups has brought him a dedicated following of edgelord racists.  So fucking weird that he's becoming the candidate of the Likudniks and the antisemitic alt-right.

It's probably assuming too much of him to say that that was his plan for getting the evangelical vote.

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« Reply #16634 on: May 21, 2016, 09:26:14 AM »
The lone star takes on a whole new meaning. :-*

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« Reply #16635 on: May 21, 2016, 10:12:52 AM »
'Remember the alamo' sounds a lot less cool if you imagine it with a gay lisp


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« Reply #16637 on: May 21, 2016, 06:12:49 PM »
'Remember the alamo' sounds a lot less cool if you imagine it with a gay lisp

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« Reply #16638 on: May 21, 2016, 10:27:47 PM »
Just ask PD to say 'Remember the alamo' out loud, Joe

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« Reply #16639 on: May 21, 2016, 10:49:59 PM »
Just ask PD to say 'Remember the alamo' out loud, Joe

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« Reply #16641 on: May 21, 2016, 10:54:32 PM »
Reminds me of this for some reason: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/19/us/19vote.html
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“I just think if you are declared insane you should not be allowed to vote, period,” said Joseph DeLorenzo, chairman of the Cranston Board of Canvassers. “Some people are taking these two clowns and calling them disabled persons. Is insanity a disability? I have an answer to that: no. You’re insane; you’re nuts.”
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Last October, Edward Desautel, a restaurant manager running for the Rhode Island House of Representatives, learned that Mr. Sarro and Mr. Sarmento were on the voting rolls. He wrote the three-member Board of Canvassers, arguing “we don’t need the additional burden of worrying whether an incompetent child murderer’s vote might affect the outcome of a close School Committee or other local race.”


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« Reply #16644 on: May 22, 2016, 12:00:01 PM »
This country is weird
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« Reply #16645 on: May 22, 2016, 12:13:44 PM »
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« Reply #16646 on: May 22, 2016, 12:29:32 PM »
Some of the demographic splits in those polls are kind of unbelievable- I find it hard to believe that by November, Clinton will only be beating Trump by 3 points among 18-29 year olds, losing Independents by 13, etc.
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« Reply #16647 on: May 22, 2016, 12:48:17 PM »
Sorry about national polls in May brehs....

Does anyone really think Hillary is going to struggle with young voters? Once she is the official nominee her numbers will improve, but national polls will likely remain close due to who is being polled and how (landlines). Media wants a close election.

In reality Hillary will trounce him due to demographics and the electoral college. Chill.
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« Reply #16648 on: May 22, 2016, 01:56:30 PM »
The Department of Labor revised a rule so that more workers qualify for overtime pay.

So of course a big liberal non-profit complains about the rule, with mostly the same rhetoric you hear from business owners.

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« Reply #16649 on: May 22, 2016, 02:02:11 PM »
Some of the demographic splits in those polls are kind of unbelievable- I find it hard to believe that by November, Clinton will only be beating Trump by 3 points among 18-29 year olds, losing Independents by 13, etc.

I've already had to delete a lot of folks off Facebook for Trump support. It's real. It's scary.

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« Reply #16650 on: May 23, 2016, 11:16:54 AM »
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« Reply #16651 on: May 23, 2016, 01:28:48 PM »
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/734768900282454016

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Shouldn't Donald get somebody else to talk about this? I mean, isn't he pretty much a terrible person to put forth such a message, because of his many affairs and because, of, well...

Also, I'm surprised that it took this long for this article to break. I'm not saying that Trump doesn't have a right to campaign however he likes, but calling calling out 'Crooked Hillary' and 'Sleazy Bill' really won't work to his favor in the long run, right?

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« Reply #16652 on: May 23, 2016, 02:46:41 PM »
you can rape someone or put pebbles in your sister's vagina as long as you believe in climate change and abortion-on-demand  :doge

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« Reply #16654 on: May 23, 2016, 07:53:48 PM »
I can't believe that dude put Cornell West on. I gotta put some popcorn and wait for the fuckery.
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« Reply #16655 on: May 23, 2016, 08:05:08 PM »
remember when Cornell West said Obama was the George Zimmerman of the globe (due to drones). And that's the guy you use to appeal to black people+help write the DNC platform...
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« Reply #16656 on: May 24, 2016, 06:50:59 PM »
did we already post this here?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seth-abramson/on-bernie-sanders-and-exp_b_10077684.html
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I’ve been a metamodernist creative writer for many years now, but had not seen an opportunity to bring this earnest, optimistic, and loving art practice into my professional writing activities until Bernie Sanders came along. Not only do I fully support and endorse Senator Sanders’ agenda, I see in his political methodology evidence of the metamodern, just as I know for certain when I hear Clinton’s cynical incrementalism that I am in the presence of a postmodern political ethos. The reason we think of Bernie Sanders as impractical or even naive is that he is; what most fail to see, however, is that his is the “informed naivete” of metamodernism. He sees that our economic and cultural markets are in a terminal state of deconstruction, and yes, this makes him angry and “negative” in a certain respect, but he sees too that the opportunity this deconstruction affords us all is a moment in which we can reconstruct everything we’ve known in a way that better reflects our values.

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Bernie Sanders’ “political revolution” is political only inasmuch as thought is political. What he is really asking us to do — or, rather, because he knows how many Americans grew up with postmodernism as their mother’s milk, what he is asking young people not so jaded to do — is participate in a metamodern Enlightenment that is, at base, a philosophical revolution. What he is saying is that, yes, a $15-an-hour minimum wage is absolutely impossible at the federal level right now, but if enough people adjust their perception at the local level to briefly imagine this impossibility as a possibility, suddenly Seattle can pass a $15-an-hour minimum wage. Then Los Angeles and San Francisco. Then New York City and D.C. Then smaller towns — perhaps a town like the one in Ohio that just passed, effective forthwith, six months’ paid maternity and paternity leave for all municipal employees. That’s an idea that has no place whatsoever here in America — that is totally foreign to the intellectual infrastructure we’ve developed — but when you find fertile soil for the impossible it really doesn’t matter how large a plot of land you’re working with. By the very nature of things — we might call it perceptual entropy — the impossible, once perceived, enters a chain of causation whose natural conclusion is realization.

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« Reply #16657 on: May 24, 2016, 07:25:09 PM »
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« Reply #16658 on: May 24, 2016, 07:31:33 PM »
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The problem I’ve had — that many I know have had — with experimental writing in the postmodern era is that it is deconstructive. What it shows us is only that things cannot and do not hang together over time; that we ourselves are contingent creations living in spaces that are always in the process of being compromised because they, too, are contingent. Deconstruction is thrilling because it gives the artist a sense of having exposed something, and her audience the feeling of having entered a pedagogical space in which something previously hidden is now open to view. But what we find, over time, is that having hidden things revealed to us over and over again by art finally has only the effect of reminding us that life is a many-chambered shell deliberately foreclosed to us by unseen forces. It reminds us, too, that the intentions and perceptions of other people are by and large hidden from us in — the real torture — plain sight. I see you looking at me and I wonder what you think, and I call that wonder mystery; I walk through the world every day experiencing that sensation again and again and I soon find myself calling it agony instead.
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« Reply #16659 on: May 24, 2016, 07:39:36 PM »
If there's anything I've learned from fiction, it's that knowing exactly what other people are thinking all the time is a far worse agony than not knowing.
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« Reply #16661 on: May 25, 2016, 11:02:40 AM »
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/435800/mitt-romney-third-party-campaign-president-urgently-needed
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Mitt Romney, Run for President

You're the only man who can save us from future calamity.

Let’s be clear about our nation’s plight: At this moment, American voters face a choice between two historically corrupt, dishonest, and incompetent politicians.

One of them helped create the most dangerous foreign-policy environment since the Cold War, a world in which our nation faces the largest and most savage jihadist fighting force in modern times, a re-arming and potentially nuclear Iran, and the re-emergence of threats from Russia and China. The other would respond to that crisis with a collection of announced policies that range from the insane (intentionally killing women and children to punish terrorists, sending Exxon to pacify the Middle East, blocking even our Kurdish allies from entering the United States) to the reckless (ending the NATO alliance that has been the foundation of Western security for nearly 70 years).
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And at this point, Mitt Romney is the only man who combines the integrity, financial resources, name recognition, and broad public support to make a realistic independent run at the presidency. He’s conservative, he’s got an enviable record in business and government, and he’s demonstrated a unique capacity for turning around failing enterprises. Oh, and there’s one other thing: Romney has been proven right.

In 2012, Obama mocked him for declaring that Russia was America’s principal geopolitical foe. Romney was right. Well before the rise of ISIS, even as the Obama administration was trumpeting Iraq as a success story and wrapping its arms around the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, Romney predicted that Obama’s policies would lead to escalating violence and chaos in the Middle East. He was right.

Romney predicted a continued middle-class squeeze. He was right. He predicted an “almost $20 trillion” deficit. He was right. And while none other than Donald Trump was mocking him for being too harsh on immigration, he was right.
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For the nation, however, there is little downside. If either Trump or Clinton win, America loses. A third-party Romney bid would introduce the chance of a different outcome, giving millions of Americans the important option to choose a man of integrity as their president. It’s not just politically important that voters have at least one honest choice, and that parents can tell their children that they stood against the debasement of American politics and the bankruptcy of our national character; it’s culturally critical.

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« Reply #16662 on: May 25, 2016, 11:04:08 AM »
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/281147-dems-discuss-dropping-wasserman-schultz
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Democrats on Capitol Hill are discussing whether Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz should step down as Democratic National Committee (DNC) chairwoman before the party’s national convention in July.

Democrats backing likely presidential nominee Hillary Clinton worry Wasserman Schultz has become too divisive a figure to unify the party in 2016, which they say is crucial to defeating presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump in November.

Wasserman Schultz has had an increasingly acrimonious relationship with the party’s other presidential candidate, Bernie Sanders, and his supporters, who argue she has tilted the scales in Clinton’s favor.
“There have been a lot of meetings over the past 48 hours about what color plate do we deliver Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s head on,” said one pro-Clinton Democratic senator.

The lawmaker said senators huddled on the chamber floor last week to talk about Wasserman Schultz’s future and estimated that about a dozen have weighed in during private conversations.

“I don’t see how she can continue to the election. How can she open the convention? Sanders supporters would go nuts,” said the lawmaker, who requested anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the discussions.
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A senior Senate Democratic aide said, “There’s a strong sentiment that the current situation is untenable and can only be fixed by her leaving. There’s too much water under the bridge for her to be a neutral arbiter.”

Another Democratic senator who supports Clinton said Wasserman Schultz will hurt her chances of rallying the liberal base in the fall.

“We need to get this figured out and come together,” said the lawmaker. “Hillary’s got the nomination. She needs Bernie’s energy. It’s time for her to accommodate. It’s time to pick hard-nosed people to cut through things and figure out a deal.

“They need to know this is their party,” the lawmaker said, observing that if Wasserman Schultz were to be replaced as party leader, young liberals may become more enthusiastic about the ticket.

Lawmakers who have discussed the end of Wasserman Schultz’s tenure acknowledge the fate would be unfair because she’s worked hard to help the party. But they say the greater priority is to mollify restive liberals backing Sanders.

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« Reply #16663 on: May 25, 2016, 12:11:54 PM »
The Department of Labor revised a rule so that more workers qualify for overtime pay.

So of course a big liberal non-profit complains about the rule, with mostly the same rhetoric you hear from business owners.

There's a very strong mentality in the non-profit sector (from my experience within its accounting field) that because its members are not operating for profit*, they should be excused from following laws they find inconvenient. (Sales tax, for example.) At least this group is lobbying in public instead of quietly not following the law.

*They are, of course, it's just that people think non-profit means "doesn’t have to generate a profit" and thus these entities are special snowflakes instead of what they are: exempted from fiduciary duty to a class of shareholders.

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« Reply #16664 on: May 25, 2016, 02:50:24 PM »
Hey Benji and Kara, what can you tell me about copiosis?

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« Reply #16665 on: May 25, 2016, 04:29:20 PM »
With Hillary's e-mail investigation and now Terry McAuliffe under investigation, someone in the FBI really really doesn't want the Clintons back in the White House.
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« Reply #16666 on: May 25, 2016, 04:31:29 PM »
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/05/25/gop-strategist-trumps-attacks-on-clinton-over-whitewater-are-lunacy/

Yo Whitewater? Party like it's 92/93 again I guess. What year is it?
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What kind of weak shit is this? Seems worse than the Sanders crew throwing whatever they could at the wall to see what stuck against Clinton. At least their issues were more or less concerning shit that isn't 2 decades old.
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« Reply #16667 on: May 25, 2016, 05:14:36 PM »
Hey Benji and Kara, what can you tell me about copiosis?

My good friend and ideological enemy benji will ruthlessly mock it if he reads about it.

A lot of it is not (to use their obvious tech nomenclature) innovative, to the point where I'm not sure if it's actual syncretism or its creators are yet another product of the End of History. For example, as a reader of Bukharin I experienced quite a bit of déjà vu when reading about how their economic system is going to operate administratively. There is liberal borrowing from Moka exchange (something that exists) and parecon (which doesn't exist... but parecon kitty is still watching you nonetheless).

I don't want to give a thorough list of reasons that I wouldn't sign up, but the "original sin" of this to me is that it is built upon the notion of "human nature" (which I don't subscribe to unless you mean that in biological sense or something very rudimentary like "makes stuff" and "loves pictures of cats on the internet") while talking about changing human perceptions, something that indicates humans are in fact malleable and not possessing of innate and specific natures. Piss or get off the pot, mates.

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« Reply #16668 on: May 25, 2016, 06:33:08 PM »
With Hillary's e-mail investigation and now Terry McAuliffe under investigation, someone in the FBI really really doesn't want the Clintons back in the White House.

More like Clintons and their surrogates have always been tied to petty scandals. I don't say that to go into an AiA-esque rant but moreso just pointing out it's nothing new. Benji might disagree  :doge but Obama has run a pretty damn tight ship with little to no scandals. That's pretty damn amazing when compared to the W, Clinton, and Reagan admins. Not to mention social media's ascent and how easily a scandal could get out to the people.
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« Reply #16669 on: May 25, 2016, 07:29:35 PM »
Hillary's whole email debacle is a clear indicator that she exercises poor judgement and is not fit to be commander in chief.

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf |OT|
« Reply #16670 on: May 25, 2016, 07:45:33 PM »
I'd like to round up every man woman and manchild on the planet talking about how Hillary's emails should disqualify her for the presidency or land her in prison, dump them all on an island, and then drop napalm all over the island.
What would Ambassador Stevens do?

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf |OT|
« Reply #16671 on: May 25, 2016, 07:50:32 PM »
Hey Benji and Kara, what can you tell me about copiosis?
My good friend and ideological enemy benji will ruthlessly mock it if he reads about it.
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I'm making human society better for everyone...

By becoming a Copiosis patron, you'll enable me and my growing team continue to create the ultimate artistic work: a new, evolved human society through Copiosis. It’s the American Way way better!

Through Copiosis, everybody can live fabulously prosperous lives. How? First, we eliminate everyone’s debt.  All of it. Creditors are left whole (no one loses anything). Next, everybody gets high-quality food, clothing, education, healthcare and shelter at no cost to them. Copiosis, eliminates most crime, unemployment, money & financial markets, governments,  jobs that produce no real value and the need to earn a living. In Copiosis you choose work matching your values, passions, aspirations and interests. If that work makes people and the Earth better off, you can live a life you thought was impossible.

What would you do if that was your reality? We need your help getting the word out and funding our demonstration projects.


It’s bold. But aren’t all world-changing, artistic works?

2001: A Space Odessey, Guernica, Nineteen Eighty-Four. These artistic works represent huge milestones in their respective genres and continue to influence humanity. They were bold, extraordinary artistic works.

Now we have Copiosis. People are calling Copiosis:
 
“The most well thought out, detailed innovation I’ve ever seen”

“Extraordinary in its comprehensiveness. You’ve thought of everything.”

“The most impressive, comprehensive, optimistic solution I’ve ever seen to our world problems”

and

“One of the most strategically sound direct actions I can spend effort on"

Copiosis is a socioeconomic system that provides each person with high quality food, clothing, shelter, education, and healthcare at no cost. People producing these things are well rewarded. Luxuries - anything beyond basic needs - require you to accumulate what we call net-benefit reward by benefiting people or the Earth. We expect to eliminate money, government, corporations, and most crime. What do we replace these with? A vibrant, free-trade socioeconomic system in which you can legitimately pursue your creative dreams in a prosperous, generous, safer, vibrant better world.   
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Ray, a volunteer once described our accomplishments happening as fast as "greased lightening." We could use your help keeping up with ourselves! Here’s what we’ve accomplished so far:

We have two real-world demonstration project operating with over 30 families participating
We have at least seven more demonstration projects in various planning stages
Attracted over 600 enthusiasts in 35 countries who LOVE what we’re doing and are telling others
We completed the Net Benefit Algorithm (V6) which is fundamental to our innovation
We completed our MVP software which is poised for use in our upcoming demonstration projects and we’re working on a newer better version in Linux
I have published two books on my innovation, hundreds of blog posts explaining it and our social media properties are gaining more and more interest.
We have people excited, hope-filled and convinced Copiosis is the solution to our world problems.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1qRNCZZgNwPTGdqNWJYZjVaSWM/view
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The Net Benefit Reward (NBR) algorithm calculates how much Net Benefit Award (NBA) Producers get when

people consume their products and services. At the heart of the algorithm is the NBR formula. Version 6 of this

formula, described below, will be used during various demonstration projects, the first one being in the Kenton

Neighborhood in Portland, Oregon, the second in Chico, California.

Goals

This proposal updates the NBA algorithm proposed in “Net Benefit Calculation Algorithm Proposal” to version 6.
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Modifications:

• Eliminates the E (effort) variable

• Changes operators in the CPDB expression from subtraction to addition

• Changes the operator between CPDB and the rest of the formula from multiplication to addition

• Changes the operator in CCB from addition to multiplication

• Changed the positions of the two remaining variables in CPDB.

Adam Silver likes what he sees:
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All other variables being equal, as Consumer Benefit increases, the amount of NBA should increase.

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf |OT|
« Reply #16672 on: May 25, 2016, 08:05:07 PM »
ὕβρις

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf |OT|
« Reply #16673 on: May 25, 2016, 08:21:48 PM »

Kara

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« Reply #16674 on: May 25, 2016, 08:46:10 PM »
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Um hello, we have to have World War III first. Why bother to reboot the series in canon if people are going to be this ignorant of it. smgdh.

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf |OT|
« Reply #16675 on: May 25, 2016, 09:35:51 PM »
Star Trek.
 :nerds
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« Reply #16676 on: May 25, 2016, 09:49:33 PM »
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Um hello, we have to have World War III first. Why bother to reboot the series in canon if people are going to be this ignorant of it. smgdh.

tfw the 90's passed and we ain't even had the Eugenics War yet
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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf |OT|
« Reply #16677 on: May 25, 2016, 10:09:10 PM »
Shit better start pumping out the super Indians then

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Re: US Politics Thread of Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf Donald Drumpf |OT|
« Reply #16678 on: May 26, 2016, 12:25:11 AM »
There were Bernie Bros dancing above the 405 tonight to drive attention to their lit up "Vote For Bernie" sign tonight. He fucking lost already get over it.
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