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[Atramental]

Meme magic is real. 

[VomKriege]

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/735689625407131648

lolwut

You would be sad too if you couldn't do the big wheel at the end of your trip to the fair.
Maybe they can set up a pay-per-view too.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Trump has been trolling Sanders to run as an independent for the past few weeks.  Also it was a big mistake to cancel the California rally:

However, a Public Policy Institute of California poll released late Wednesday suggested that state voters do not necessarily agree that the Democratic primary is a settled issue.

The poll showed Clinton and Sanders in a dead heat, with the former secretary of state at 46 percent and the Vermont senator at 44 percent among likely Democratic primary voters. It also showed her less than invincible in a general election, with a 49 to 39 percent lead over Donald Trump in a state where GOP registration is just 28 percent.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Clinton-breaks-a-California-promise-7945454.php?t=c85267e95800af33be&cmpid=twitter-premium

Hillary's constant ball dropping is biting her in the ass.  Remember at this time in the polling in 2008 and 2012, Obama was ahead of the competition and it wasn't even close; in 2016, Trump is now marginally ahead of Clinton.  She better get her shit together because this isn't anywhere close to being wrapped up, as much as the Nate Silver set desperately hopes.  The demographic game doesn't work if your base can't stand the nominee.

I can't wait for her to reverse her decision to have the debate, Sanders refuses, and then overpaid and worthless pundits whine about Sanders not doing what Clinton wants him to do.

[Broseidon]

Al Qaeda calling out Fox News

[octopushover]

Trump has been trolling Sanders to run as an independent for the past few weeks.  Also it was a big mistake to cancel the California rally:

However, a Public Policy Institute of California poll released late Wednesday suggested that state voters do not necessarily agree that the Democratic primary is a settled issue.

The poll showed Clinton and Sanders in a dead heat, with the former secretary of state at 46 percent and the Vermont senator at 44 percent among likely Democratic primary voters. It also showed her less than invincible in a general election, with a 49 to 39 percent lead over Donald Trump in a state where GOP registration is just 28 percent.

http://www.sfchronicle.com/opinion/editorials/article/Clinton-breaks-a-California-promise-7945454.php?t=c85267e95800af33be&cmpid=twitter-premium

Hillary's constant ball dropping is biting her in the ass.  Remember at this time in the polling in 2008 and 2012, Obama was ahead of the competition and it wasn't even close; in 2016, Trump is now marginally ahead of Clinton.  She better get her shit together because this isn't anywhere close to being wrapped up, as much as the Nate Silver set desperately hopes.  The demographic game doesn't work if your base can't stand the nominee.

I can't wait for her to reverse her decision to have the debate, Sanders refuses, and then overpaid and worthless pundits whine about Sanders not doing what Clinton wants him to do.

Sanders is already breaking a promise by agreeing to debate Trump. Running as a Democrat means agreeing to their rules.

[TVC15]

https://twitter.com/BernieSanders/status/735689625407131648

lolwut

I can't believe Bernie is this easily manipulated.

[Phoenix Dark]

As expected Trump is saying it was all a joke and he won't debate. Sanders looking desperate as fuck.

MTW: put some money on Sanders winning California. Predictt thread is on the first page. Hillary will win handily.

[octopushover]

As expected Trump is saying it was all a joke and he won't debate. Sanders looking desperate as fuck.

MTW: put some money on Sanders winning California. Predictt thread is on the first page. Hillary will win handily.

Trump just pulled a DOWN LOW? TOO SLOW! on an old man. It's like my grandpa is alive again. 

[CatsCatsCats]

As expected Trump is saying it was all a joke and he won't debate. Sanders looking desperate as fuck.

MTW: put some money on Sanders winning California. Predictt thread is on the first page. Hillary will win handily.

I already made a bunch of money on Sanders yes today

Holding until resolution 

If I've learned anything about that site, it's that it's much better to find a market that has the potential to swing around just buy whatever's cheapest and unload it for a modest profit without getting too greedy -- also, patience

[studyguy]

Sanders at this point is literally that thirsty dude out there waiting to take a chance on whoever gives him the time of day. 

[Joe Molotov]

Ken Starr getting Vince Fostered down in Waco. Janet Reno sends her regards, bitch. 

[benjipwns]

The shills are out in full force:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/bernie-sanders-clinton/484439/
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/26/the-racist-side-of-bernie-sanders-supporters.html

While thankfully, I have someone who works for me and wades through much of my mail and social media so I can spend as much time as possible writing (and maintaining my sanity and sense of humor), for more than a week Sanders supporters flooded my accounts with nonstop accusations—one more over the top than the next. I am “a disgrace,” “a liar,” a secret paid Hillary Clinton “mole” or “shill.” Apparently it is beyond the realm of possibility that I, as a free-thinking individual with access to polling data and a fairly vigorous intellect of my own may not consider their chosen candidate a strong one. Simply not possible. After all, as one white Sanders supporter informed me: “You need to be better informed on the needs of Black people.” Thanks for the tip!

But there were a couple of messages that made their way to me that were particularly troubling. One Sanders supporter pleaded on Facebook for others to stop attacking me and try to “inform me” (Again this denotes I couldn’t possibly be educated because I don’t agree with them, but at least he sounded civil). To which another replied, “She chooses to ignore the issues and work for her own personal interest. If that is the case than to me everything is allowed as long as it’s not physical violence.”

Consider that statement for a moment.

Elitist shill. I don't have anyone to read my mail and social media for me!

Dictated but not read.

[benjipwns]

benji's blockquotes, fair and balanced:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/05/26/sen-orrin-hatch-reacts-to-meeting-with-merrick-garland-before-it-occurs/

Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) hasn’t yet met with Supreme Court nominee Merrick B. Garland for what has been a long anticipated encounter between the former Judiciary Committee chairman and the federal appeals court judge he has long praised.

“Like many of my Senate colleagues, I recently met with Chief Judge Merrick Garland, President Obama’s nominee to the Supreme Court. … Our meeting, however, does not change my conviction that the Senate should consider a Supreme Court nominee after this presidential election cycle,” Hatch wrote in an op-ed published on the website of the Deseret News early Thursday morning and later removed. It remains available in a Google database.

Paul Edwards, the executive editor of the Deseret News, on Thursday described the piece as a draft that was “awaiting edits from the Senator following his meeting with Judge Garland” and was published inadvertently. “We apologize to Senator Hatch and our readers for this unfortunate error,” he said.

“Senator Hatch has made clear from the beginning that he intends to meet with Judge Garland out of respect for their longtime friendship,” Hatch spokesman J.P. Freire said. “He looks forward to their meeting and the opportunity to explain his position on the current Supreme Court vacancy.”

Hatch, in the op-ed, praises Garland’s “character and credentials” and his “excellent reputation” in the legal community. “I met with Judge Garland as a personal friend and out of respect for his position as a distinguished federal judge,” he writes.

But he continues: “This decision is about the confirmation process and has nothing to do with the qualifications, character or record of the nominee. The reasons for considering a nominee after the political fireworks of a presidential election remain just as compelling today as they were in February following Justice Scalia’s death. In fact, the bitterness, pressure tactics, ad campaigns and political grandstanding since then have only confirmed that we made the right decision.”

Hatch’s meeting with Garland would the the judge’s 16th meeting with a GOP senator. Freire declined to say when the meeting is scheduled, and the White House, which is managing Garland’s meetings with senators, declined to comment.

Typical left wing media bias, Hatch finds a free market efficient solution to save time/money and they all whine and are still going to have the meetings.

[Madrun Badrun]

Can we replace benji with reddit's TLDR bot at this point?

[IrishNinja]

As expected Trump is saying it was all a joke and he won't debate. Sanders looking desperate as fuck.

still not seeing how anyone other than diehard berniebros thought this would've been a good idea - at best, it's trump PR and bernie played like a fiddle, at worst?  you'd get to see an irrelevant old man get steamrolled live

[benjipwns]

[curly]

Good guy Bernie distracting from Hillary's coming indictment

[benjipwns]

The Republican National Committee has dedicated hundreds of thousands of dollars to bring the band Journey to Cleveland for a post-convention bash.

One source familiar with the details of the event said that the total cost of booking Journey is about $750,000. Another source has indicated the RNC has $500,000 to spend on the event.

The concert, slated to take place at Cleveland’s State Theatre, will be the capstone of the four-day Republican National Convention at Quicken Loans Arena in mid-July
...
"The RNC has not signed Journey," said Katie Walsh, the committee's chief of staff, said in a statement. "This is 100% false."

[Kara]

Don't stop... believing?

[benjipwns]

Here we stand
Worlds apart, hearts broken in two, two, two
Sleepless nights, losing ground
I'm reachin' for you, you, you

Feelin' that it's gone
Can change your mind
If we can't go on
To survive the tide love divides

Someday love will find you
Break those chains that bind you
One night will remind you
How we touched and went our separate ways
If he ever hurts you
True love won't desert you
You know I still love you
Though we touched and went our separate ways

Troubled times
Caught between confusion and pain, pain, pain
Distant eyes
Promises we made were in vain, in vain, vain

[benjipwns]

[Kara]

Imagine being so afraid that your imaginary friend wasn't real that you talked about Matt Damon movies on the floor of the United States Congress. And not even the good ones like The Rainmaker or The Adjustment Bureau, but the bad ones like Titan A.E.

[benjipwns]

sonoki827 hours ago
This is epic!  Pascal's wager, transgenderism, Matt Damon, Jonathan Cahn's Harbinger bullshit, gay marriage, space colonization, and the abolition of the First Amendment.  All in under 5 minutes!

[Phoenix Dark]

Terran are definitely pretty gay.

[Kara]

I'm not watching that but Gay Space Colonies sounds like an interesting avenue of speculative fiction

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Gundam wing being a seminal work? Please respond.

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Treize Khushrenada was straighter than a one dollar bill.

[bluemax]

Too late to find the tweet but apparently Bernie Sanders said he wants this Trump debate in the biggest stadium in the world and someone posted a tweet saying it could get awkward with an image of a list of the largest stadiums in the world.

The biggest one is in North Korea.

[VomKriege]

Bernie Sanders
‏@BernieSanders

I am delighted that @realDonaldTrump has agreed to debate. Let’s do it in the biggest stadium possible.

[–]ShoahShuffle

Best part of it all is this: The audience won't be filled with shills by the DNC/RNC, it's going to be regular people in those seats.

[benjipwns]

The twist, the moderator will be Hillary Clinton.

[Kara]

Too late to find the tweet but apparently Bernie Sanders said he wrants this Trump debate in the biggest stadium in the world and someone posted a tweet saying it could get awkward with an image of a list of the largest stadiums in the world.

The biggest one is in North Korea.

Yet another triumph of the Juche Ideal.

[benjipwns]

 

[Tasty]

DIAF, benji, you fucktard hack.

[Great Rumbler]

I would be sad if benji died, tbh.

[Madrun Badrun]

Unless Walrus' hate manifested itself in a pyrokinetic flame causing benji to DIAF.  Then I'd be more like 'whoa dude' than sad. 

[Samson Manhug]

Walrus is going to be one hell of an internet commenter when he’s as old as Baby Boomer commenters are now.

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm going to be bummed when Walrus has to withdraw his name from nomination as economic adviser to the president when his Bore posts are discovered in 20 years.

[Samson Manhug]

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Demi can be bought.

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[studyguy]

The entire Trump/Sanders debate episode. 

Like history classes in the future are just gonna get to the 2016 primary and be like. 

[brawndolicious]

A hundred years from now when we're all living on cyborg implants, kids will be asking us why Republicans never noticed changing times and rallied behind a non white male or universal health care or some basic changes to the message they're giving. Then I will try to explain to them and then give up and tell them to go read a book and they won't know what a book is.

At least we didn't live through the civil rights era.

[Madrun Badrun]

Your cybernetic children will still be living through the civil rights era.   In the year 2116 naturally born black children at age 7 will be learning a rate of 7TB/s less than their white counter parts.  Statistics don't lie. 

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Cybernetic Asians will still be better at math and still bad at driving

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[Great Rumbler]

Cybernetic Lives Matter

[Kara]

Getting the accompanying cybertechnology for the cyberpunk dystopia in which we already live. Wiz.

[Tasty]

You guys acting like humanity will get that far.

[VomKriege]

Sanders now engaged in petty fights with AIDS activists ("Big pharma shills") for overstating what their meeting consisted of.
  

Back then when his campaign used Papal quotes I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but there's definitely a pattern here... I also didn't know he said Planned Parenthood was part of the Establishment when they endorsed Clinton. 

Credit where it's due, didn't expect him to go full kook.

[VomKriege]

Funnily I didn't realize : People are talking about fascism and Mussolini with regards to Trump but the closest comparison, and probably more truthful roadmap of what you'd get with a Trump administration, would probably be this guy (which Europeans, me included, seemed to have blacked out) :



Except Silvio's was both Trump and Murdoch (and certainly more of a longtime shadow political force) and held a less critical position in world politics.
Below nuclear war but still pretty bad.

EDIT : Wouldn't be surprised that's actually the model of Trump's staff, now that I think about it. Italy being a parliamentary system probably helped, and Drumpf do not have his own political party, but I would be fearful of the complacent narrative that Trump surely can't win the general election.

EDIT : Decent article from last year on the subject.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/09/21/donald-trump-is-americas-silvio-berlusconi/

Well, googling it shows me that most US political analysts caught on a few months ago.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://www.wmtw.com/news/man-in-need-of-kidney-denied-transplant/39764878

disgusting 

[Kara]

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/05/25/how-the-puerto-rico-bill-attacks-the-minimum-wage/

It's like no one learned anything from the debacle in Saipan (or previous attempts to create growth in Puerto Rico via legislative incentive).

[curly]

https://twitter.com/RussoJetsFan/status/736740491610476545

Libertarians 

[Phoenix Dark]

Doesn't Johnson know that the market would have fixed the problem eventually? After all, if you don't allow blacks to eat at your restaurant that just means another business can win them as customers, and sooner or later the racist business will go out of business 

[benjipwns]

It's a recurring attack line from Austin Petersen in all the debates. Started a couple months ago.

This was the only time the debates have ever gotten testy, from the Las Vegas one last week. LGBT guy asks audience question about religious freedom laws, McAfee and Petersen's responses follow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1B3UBvxlH8#t=1h3m14s
GJ opposes them and Petersen goes after him for not protecting the right to discriminate and not knowing all the details of the Civil Rights Act of 1964: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1B3UBvxlH8#t=1h5m35s

From the Stossel debate:

[benjipwns]

Something from this election:


Something from this elections greatest analyst:

[Phoenix Dark]

Not sure making a Jewish person bake a german chocolate Nazi cake is analogous here.

[benjipwns]

In Gary Johnson's totalitarian state, black homosexuals will be forced to eat a Trump cake made out of his hair, but not at the Walgreens counter.

[benjipwns]

McAfee was making a little run but Petersen has been the frontrunner in every party online poll since the Stossel debate.

Why Republicans Should Vote Libertarian This Year, According to Libertarian Party Members

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CatMan DO6 hours ago
The only thing i heard from libertarians from the last 8 years was Sowden,  pot and how Christians are religious nut-bars.  When ask why you would not vote Cruz, it is because you all said because he was a Christian. So no i am not going to vote for you this time around. I am going to tell all my friends not to vote for you nor listen to your ideas.

AKlover10 hours ago
Elect Hillary Clinton president.........vote Libertarian.......especially in swing states!

Is Trump even close to ideal, NO!  Would he be an improvement over Hillary Clinton, marginally yes.  Note the establishment Republicans are all in lockstep against him and conclude correctly that this is encouraging.  I want the system to burn but I don't want WW3 to start so I will go vote for Trump.

Trying to organize individuals into a herd is why the Libertarian Party will always fail coupled with the amount of people who feed from the government trough.  When that money gets cut off you will find Libertarians will be 1/2 the population till that day voting is a mitigating/triage action.

Soopermensch10 hours ago
No libertarians or republicans are ever going to get elected ever again if Clinton opens the borders and gives amnesty to all the illegals.

Don't spoil the vote for Trump.

WE'RE GOOD NOW10 hours ago
There will never be a libertarian president, and there will never be another republican president if Hillary wins and the demographics of this nation are changed to the point of no return. This is an inconvenient fact that Reason will never address because they'd lose their liberal friends.

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Candidate Austin Petersen Says He's the "Bernie Sanders and Barack Obama" of the Libertarian Party
Libertarian John McAfee's Campaign to Tear Down The Political System

Dave M  6 hours ago
Fucking mcafee. Took 1 question for him to go completely off the rails

Meanwhile also at the Libertarian Convention:

[Kara]

which one are you voting for, benji

[Kara]

the psl picks the candidate for me (democratic centralism ftw), so i can rest easy knowing that i don't have to pick a side on the great nazi cake jewish baker debate

[Joe Molotov]

Meanwhile also at the Libertarian Convention:
(Image removed from quote.)

Why does she have Donald Trump's hair?

[benjipwns]

which one are you voting for, benji

[benjipwns]

[Madrun Badrun]

Isn't she a resident evil character? 

[benjipwns]

Code: [Select]

Gary Johnson 518 56.0%
Austin Petersen 203 21.9%
John McAfee 131 14.2%
Darryl Perry 52 5.6%
Marc Allen Feldman 18 1.9%
Others 3 0.3%statist slaver scum take over another party nomination