US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE

[agrajag]

I meant a noun, yes.

And dripping can be used as a noun. Stuff that dribbles out of your dick = dick dripping.

[Yeti]

At that point I would just call it a dick droplet.

[brawndolicious]

she cant keep getting away with it!

[Brehvolution]

You would be upset too if you peddled bullshit for 2 years and it didn't happen the way you said it would. It would make you look bad and less credible. 

[benjipwns]

FBI Director James Comey will testify on Capitol Hill Thursday regarding the bureau's investigation of Hillary Clinton's email practices, part of a concerted GOP effort to keep the heat on Clinton heading into the party conventions and a long congressional recess.

Comey will appear before the Oversight Committee at 10 a.m., House Oversight Committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) said on Wednesday morning. The hearing will be just two days after Comey's stunning repudiation of Clinton's "extremely careless" practice of using a private email server to send classified information during her tenure as secretary of State. Comey did not recommend charges be filed against her, stoking GOP outrage and propelling congressional leaders like Chaffetz to seek more information.

Chaffetz's Senate counterpart, Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee Chairman Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), demanded a written explanation of Comey's decision-making on Wednesday. And House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said that Attorney General Loretta Lynch will testify next Tuesday before his panel about Clinton's email practices, as well as Bill Clinton's private meeting with Lynch in late June.

Chaffetz called it "surprising and confusing" that Comey did not recommend an indictment; the FBI chief's criticism, in Chaffetz's view, "makes clear Secretary Clinton violated the law."

"Congress and the American people have a right to understand the depth and breadth of the FBI's investigation," Chaffetz said in a statement announcing that Comey had agreed to his request.

Across the Capitol, Johnson announced in a letter to Comey that his committee is continuing to investigate Clinton's email use. Johnson asked that Comey describe the cost and scope of the investigation of Clinton and further explain his decision-making process.

"You determined that Secretary Clinton's 'handling of very sensitive, highly classified information' was 'extremely careless.' However, you found that the actions of Secretary Clinton did not lead to a recommendation to pursue criminal charges, including charges under the 'gross negligence' standard ... What is the difference, in the FBI's view, between extreme carelessness and gross negligence?" asked Johnson in the letter. "What set of facts would cause the FBI to recommend criminal charges under the gross negligence standard?"

"It is uniquely troubling in light of Attorney General Lynch's secret meeting with former President Bill Clinton. No one is above the law and the American people need to know that federal law enforcement is taking this misconduct seriously," Goodlatte said.

[TakingBackSunday]

good lord I don't fucking care about any of this

[benjipwns]

You will be made to care.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

until recent Fox News mainstay Gretchen Carlson has sued Roger Ailes for sexual harassment.

sounds like they can get witnesses to corroborate as well.

[benjipwns]

If you want to understand Comey’s statements you might have to recall those messages the downed pilots at the Hanoi Hilton occasionally would record for the folks back home—and particularly the one Rear Adm. Jeremiah Denton offered up, in which amid his happy statements about humane treatment by the North Vietnamese were obscured by what looked like unnatural blinking. When Denton’s off-putting tics were matched with Morse code, it was obvious he was spelling out the word “torture” to the American public.

Comey’s statements can be seen as a bit like Denton’s. He laid out a perfectly defensible case for prosecuting Hillary and then gave a cursory, obviously indefensible case for leaving her alone at the end. In doing so, he set the American public ablaze with outrage and signaled to all who would listen that something fundamentally corrupt is going on in the Justice Department.

James Comey may have hurt Hillary Clinton more than he helped her in his statement Tuesday concerning the Grand Email Controversy. He may have let her off the hook legally, but personally he has left the putative Democratic candidate scarred almost beyond recognition.

A Hillary indictment, in all likelihood, would have meant a new and more scandal-free Democratic candidate, a Joe Biden perhaps, far more potent than the seriously wounded Clinton who now has even more explaining to do.

in focus groups in Illinois, Pennsylvania and Florida throughout this year, . . . the emails kept coming up among undecided voters. While most people were not familiar with the emails’ contents, they thought this much: They were stark evidence that Clinton was arrogant and untrustworthy.

Everything's coming up Donald

[Great Rumbler]

until recent Fox News mainstay Gretchen Carlson has sued Roger Ailes for sexual harassment.

sounds like they can get witnesses to corroborate as well.

I'm surprised it's taken this long. By all accounts, Ailes is a big 'ol pervert who likes his women blonde, dumb, and showing as much leg as possible at all times.

[Madrun Badrun]

I don't understand why anyone would sexually harass another person over 50. 

[benjipwns]

When Carlson met with Ailes to discuss the discriminatory treatment to which she was being subjected, Ailes stated: ‘I think you and I should have had a sexual relationship a long time ago and then you’d be good and better and I’d be good and better,’ adding that ‘sometimes problems are easier to solve’ that way

He's giving her just plain sensible advice, this whole thing being blown way out of proportion by the lieberal social studies warriors media.

[Phoenix Dark]

until recent Fox News mainstay Gretchen Carlson has sued Roger Ailes for sexual harassment.

sounds like they can get witnesses to corroborate as well.

Old corporate dudes
 

[Phoenix Dark]

If the Clintons really could just have people like Vince Foster murdered willy-nilly, it's kind of amazing that some reporters like Chris Cilliza are still alive.

If the Clintons really could just have people like Vince Foster murdered willy-nilly, it's kind of amazing that some reporters like Chris Cilliza are still alive.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-owners-of-audiomack-speak-to-hot-97-notice-the-trend-mjpls.423304/

[brawndolicious]

It's still 4 months out. My own expectation, which really means nothing at all, is that the GOP will refuse to turn back on Trump and we'll have a Donner Party type of situation. It'll be a lot of confusion among pollsters when all the "mainstream" Republicans stay home and at the end of it, they'll just try to forget what happened in 2016.

It's really tragic and there's nothing we can do to stop it.  :'(

[benjipwns]

[Phoenix Dark]

The first post-Comey polls are going to be interesting. A poll just dropped today that showed Clinton +5. It was July 2nd-4th, so it would have been post-Loretta-gate, and the final day of it would have picked up news of the FBI interview. The polls being done right now will be telling.

Iirc Silver said he doesn't expect much of any movement in polls about this.

[Tasty]

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What the fuck is with this letterboxing?

[benjipwns]

You'd rather pan and scan?

[benjipwns]

“When we recognize that one of the very first things [Obama] ever really promised during a campaign, during his first campaign, was something no one really paid attention to until recently, and that is that he said, ‘I have every intent to thoroughly transform the United States of America,’” Tancredo said. “Well, if you understand that and if you understand he’s still totally committed to that, and that everything he does is designed to do that, then you can understand why he presses the issue of immigration so much, because especially immigration from Muslim countries, especially Islamic immigration, will help him in that endeavor. It does eventually thoroughly change and transform America. It reaches his goal. He hates the America you and I love.”

“I often wonder what he actually was thinking, what went through his mind, each time he had to put his hand on the Bible and take the oath of office, and say he was going to, you know, he swore to uphold the Constitution. What was going through his mind at the time?” Tancredo asked. Both Marr and Tancredo suggested that Obama wanted to have his other hand on the Quran.

“There’s always the, you know, is he really a Muslim? And for them, it is perfectly acceptable to lie about this kind of thing in order to accomplish the goal,” Tancredo said.

[Cerveza mas fina]

wrong book PSYCHE

[zomgee]

You'd rather pan and scan?

Shows up great on my 144x9 screen.

[Tasty]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/750865499660091393



https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/750868980299104256



This election man.

[thisismyusername]

https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/738014840543797249

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/738014840543797249

I've criticized Hillary on this but...you can't possibly think this is analogous to Snowden or Manning...

Surely there's a difference between discussing classified information with your coworkers (who have security clearance) through email, and purposely sending classified information to the public.

[thisismyusername]

I've criticized Hillary on this but...you can't possibly think this is analogous to Snowden or Manning...

It kinda is in a way.

She sent classified information (wither or not it was at the time) to a personal e-mail server that isn't under the Government jurisdiction. In essence, she did the very same thing Snowden did: Releasing classified information to the public. Yes, her information may not have "leaked" in the sense that Snowden released his information/CIA information to the public. But the logistics are still the same.

Manning is an entirely different case from Snowden, however.

In other news:

https://books.google.com/books?id=g4k7DAAAQBAJ&lpg=PA1&pg=PA7#v=onepage&q&f=false

[Phoenix Dark]

[Great Rumbler]

Even assuming the logistics are the same, they're functionally not the same thing at all. And the FBI could find no evidence that any of the emails or the information contained in them was ever compromised.

On the other hand, State's own private email servers were comprised a couple years ago by the Russians, so maybe that should have been a bigger issue than whatever Hillary got up to with her emails.

[Brehvolution]

More brazen goalpost moving. Tens of millions of tax payer dollars used to smear the opposition party's candidate.

[Joe Molotov]

You watching this with an enormous hate boner, Walrus? FOREIGN POWERS! TEENAGE HACKERS! LIVES AT RISK!

[VomKriege]

Even assuming the logistics are the same, they're functionally not the same thing at all. And the FBI could find no evidence that any of the emails or the information contained in them was ever compromised.

I was gonna say "Aren't they on Wikileaks ?" but as it turns out they got them thanks to a FOIA claim which I find hilarious.

[Joe Molotov]

Colin Powell used an AOL account.

[recursivelyenumerable]

When Carlson met with Ailes to discuss the discriminatory treatment to which she was being subjected, Ailes stated: ‘I think you and I should have had a sexual relationship a long time ago and then you’d be good and better and I’d be good and better,’ adding that ‘sometimes problems are easier to solve’ that way

He's giving her just plain sensible advice, this whole thing being blown way out of proportion by the lieberal social studies warriors media.

i should have had a sexual relationship with my C++ linker a long time ago ... sometimes bugs are easier to fix that way

[studyguy]

Colin Powell used an AOL account.

I wonder what AOL chatrooms Powell hit up back in the day. 

[Atramental]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/750865499660091393

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https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/750868980299104256

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This election man.

Can't wait for the debates.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/apnewsbreak-state-department-reopens-clinton-emails-probe-40420129

State Department has reopened the investigation.

[Madrun Badrun]

Finally, they might get the traitor.  This time. 

[CatsCatsCats]

Walrus post if you're okay

[Madrun Badrun]

Is this worst that your worst sexual experience, Walrus?

[Madrun Badrun]

Answer my question.  Is it worse than the boys home for troubled youth I can assume you spent time at?
 

[chronovore]

http://fusion.net/story/313923/make-america-great-again-fictional-presidential-candidate/

tl;dr: Octavia Butler created Trump

[Tasty]

https://twitter.com/SeanMcElwee/status/751399593775079424

Trigger warning for AiA.

[benjipwns]

Bernie Sanders has been invited to continue his underdog bid for the White House by the Green party’s probable presidential candidate, who has offered to step aside to let him run.

Jill Stein, who is expected to be endorsed at the party’s August convention in Houston, told Guardian US that “overwhelming” numbers of Sanders supporters are flocking to the Greens rather than Hillary Clinton.

Stein insisted that her presidential bid has a viable “near term goal” of reaching 15% in national polling, which would enable her to stand alongside presumptive nominees Clinton and Donald Trump in televised election debates.

But in a potentially destabilising move for the Democratic party, and an exciting one for Sanders’ supporters, the Green party candidate said she was willing to stand aside for Sanders.

“I’ve invited Bernie to sit down explore collaboration – everything is on the table,” she said. “If he saw that you can’t have a revolutionary campaign in a counter-revolutionary party, he’d be welcomed to the Green party. He could lead the ticket and build a political movement,” she said.

Do it Bernie, keep the pressure on CorruptHillary until she releases her speech transcripts and personal e-mails dating back to her time in Arkansas. Save Democracy!

[benjipwns]

I think I looked into that scenario and it didn't change the outcome of any post-war election except 1992 obviously.

I'd imagine changing the Electoral College to PR the two parties would set a 15-20% cut off to allocate any of them.

A PR or MMP legislature would do more for third parties but nobody wants more parties anyway. Having two already causes enough trouble.

[benjipwns]

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/trump-barred-speaking-nypd-officers-article-1.2704476?cid=bitly

On Friday morning Donald Trump begged the city's top cop to let him speak to a 3 p.m. roll call at the NYPD Midtown North Precinct in the wake of the murders of five Dallas police officers Thursday during a protest over police shooting.

But Police Commissioner Bill Bratton strongly rejected the request.

"Our interest is staying out of the politics of the moment, and not to provide photo ops," he told reporters.

Trump spokeswoman Hope Hicks sent an email statement claiming "Mr. Trump and the campaign did not reach out with a request to address roll call."

Despicable that someone would refuse their leader desiring to speak to their employees just so they can play politics with tragic events. Thoughts and prayers with those employees who wanted a chance to hear the President-elect.

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

oh, is that the same 'trust in government' that you and your party have deliberately undermined for decades now, and now you're upset that the government isn't dancing to your paranoid little tune?

I really don't think there was any sort of partisan angle to the non-indictment of Hillary. but if it were to further enervate these peckerheads, then sure, it would be nice.

[VomKriege]

HA Goodman : It's getting worse.

If Bernie decides to endorse Clinton, I’d have nothing but respect and admiration for Vermont’s Senator, even though I’d disagree with his decision. (...) Bernie Sanders, please stay in the race. If you don’t, I’ll still love you, but America needs you now more than ever. I was proved right regarding my prediction that Clinton would be indicted in the court of public opinion

[Phoenix Dark]

Also, I thought the rule of law died last summer with the King v Burwell ruling. Apparently it got revived so Obama/Lynch/Comey could kill it again?

As Obama's mentor Khallid Abdul Muhammad said, "and then you go to the god damn grave and dig em up and kill em a goddamn again because they didn't die hard enough."

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/wowidk321/status/752012198831153152

what a time

[Madrun Badrun]

Jesus

[benjipwns]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/11/us/politics/donald-trump-republican-party.html

Same-sex marriage and transgender rights are emerging as points of serious strain between social conservatives and moderates who are trying to shape the Republican platform, reviving a festering cultural dispute as thousands of party activists and delegates prepare for their convention.

Caught in the middle is Donald J. Trump, who claims “tremendous support, tremendous friendship” from gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people, and has gone further than most party figures to embrace them. Gays, in fact, are one of the few minority groups Mr. Trump has not singled out for criticism. But as the presumptive Republican nominee, he is also trying to assuage doubts about the convictions of his conservatism.

...

One of the most contentious issues confronting delegates when they meet on Monday to debate the platform will be whether to adopt a provision defending state laws that try to prevent transgender people from using the public restroom of their choice. At times Mr. Trump has criticized those laws. And he has said Ms. Jenner can use whatever bathroom she prefers at his properties.

But he has also promised not to interfere with the platform, which serves as the party’s official declaration of principles.

Even as Mr. Trump keeps his distance from the debate, other Republicans who share his more accepting view of gay and transgender issues are working aggressively to tone down some of the platform’s language.

[Brehvolution]

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/07/vladimir_putin_has_a_plan_for_destroying_the_west_and_it_looks_a_lot_like.html

 

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slate back pat

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[benjipwns]

House Republicans on Monday formally asked the Justice Department to investigate Hillary Clinton and determine whether she lied to Congress, a fresh challenge certain to shadow the Democratic presidential candidate.

Reps. Jason Chaffetz, R-Utah, chairman of the Oversight panel, and Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., head of the Judiciary Committee, said in a letter that "evidence collected by the FBI during its investigation of Secretary Clinton's use of a personal email system appears to directly contradict several aspects of her sworn testimony."
 
"In light of those contradictions, the department should investigate and determine whether to prosecute Secretary Clinton for violating statutes that prohibit perjury and false statements to Congress, or any other relevant statutes," the two congressmen wrote.

https://oversight.house.gov/release/21387/

Good thing Bernie hasn't quit yet.

[Trent Dole]

[Dickie Dee]

[TakingBackSunday]

Seriously, I do not understand this

Is this equivalent to when democrats were up in arms asking Bush to be impeached because of Iraq?

I can't fucking think so.

They're emails.  WHO.  FUCKING.  CARES.

[Trent Dole]

The only people who care are people who weren't going to vote for her anyway and are looking for excuses to foist upon everyone else to dislike her. There's valid reasons to do so but her email server isn't one of them.

[VomKriege]

They're emails.  WHO.  FUCKING.  CARES.

Well what if they were breached and recklessly printed despite the e-mail footer about responsible paper use ? 

[Great Rumbler]

Benghazi fizzled out, so might as well hash out the email thing again, I guess.

[Tasty]

They're emails.  WHO.  FUCKING.  CARES.

thisismyusername and HUELEN10 (basically the same person at this point)