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So who does Clinton select as her VP yall

I say Booker or Kaine

Hoping for Booker

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haters were givin benji so much grief like a year ago and probably other times for saying Vilsack would wind up on the short list
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/two-names-emerge-from-clintons-vp-deliberations-kaine-and-vilsack/2016/07/19/62189146-4d2d-11e6-aa14-e0c1087f7583_story.html
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Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack and Sen. Timothy M. Kaine of Virginia have emerged as the leading candidates among a longer list of finalists Hillary Clinton is considering for her vice-presidential running mate, according to interviews with multiple Democrats with knowledge of her deliberations.

Although her list is not limited to those two, Clinton has spoken highly of both in recent days to friends and advisers as she closes in on an announcement that could come as soon as Friday.
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Kaine has been a favorite for the job for months and is the name most often mentioned by Democrats as the front-runner. He and Vilsack share many professional and political attributes, notably their governing experience. Both fit Clinton’s ideal of low-key, loyal effectiveness, people who know both men said. Vilsack carries the additional quality of a long-standing personal friendship with Clinton.

Two Democrats described Perez as a solid third choice, but others cautioned that he may not be in the same category as Vilsack and Kaine. Several Democrats emphasized that the fact that Kaine and Vilsack appear to be the leading contenders does not preclude Clinton’s continuing to weigh her choices from a larger list of contenders.
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[Vilsack] is a latecomer to the pool of possible vice-presidential choices, but his star has risen over the past two weeks, several Democrats said.

Vilsack is seen as likely to deliver Iowa, a key swing state. That gives him one potential advantage over Kaine, whose home state of Virginia is also a battleground but one many Democrats judge to be safer for Clinton this year than Iowa.

“He’s not a lot of bling and glitter; he’s just Iowa solid,” said Bonnie Campbell, an Iowa Democratic strategist with longtime ties to both Clinton and Vilsack.

Vilsack also comes with a compelling personal story. He was placed in an orphanage as a young boy in Pittsburgh, then adopted. His adoptive mother was an alcoholic, something he mentions frequently in addresses about the problem of opioid addiction, an issue that falls under the purview of the Department of Agriculture and for which he shares a passion with Clinton.

Vilsack is, however, far from young at 65, and a narrowed field led by Kaine and Vilsack would place two white men atop a list that has included several Hispanic candidates, one white woman and one African American man — a potentially awkward optical reality for Clinton to contend with, particularly within the diverse base of the Democratic party.

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http://www.kplctv.com/story/32479326/watch-live-black-lives-matter-protest-near-east-4th-st

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Activists from Black Lives Matter, Westboro Baptist Church and the KKK were in the square and, at one time, were said to be throwing urine at each other.

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The Stand Together Against Trump group was expected to parade Tuesday afternoon at 1:30 p.m. A total of 0 protesters showed up. There were 15 media members, 17 preachers and several police instead. The group had a parade permit for up to 5,000 people. They later sent an email saying the group would be handing out water at Public Square during that time.

So rather than an organized protest, a bunch of whackjobs were throwing piss at each other instead.

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are they punishing ben carson by making him stay up this late to give his speech?

or is he the "bedtime story" speaker to help everyone get well rested?

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guess they pumped him full of bawls or something

why am i still watching this, i only wanted to watch donald jr, eric and ivanka  :drool

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Did Carson link Hillary to Satan Lucifer or something in his speech?  Seeing some stuff in my timeline.


edit: ...aaaaaaaaand Donald Trump Jr's speech apparently had some stolen shit in it too.
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edit: ...aaaaaaaaand Donald Trump Jr's speech apparently had some stolen shit in it too.

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/755601024908300288/photo/1

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edit: ...aaaaaaaaand Donald Trump Jr's speech apparently had some stolen shit in it too.

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/755601024908300288/photo/1

Sad!

Now I'm hearing that the author of that article wrote the speech, so it's just reusing material.  Bah, not as fun.

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http://davidduke.com/jewish-neocon-speechwriter-sabotage-melania-trumps-big-speech/
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Did a Jewish Neocon Speechwriter Sabotage Melania Trump’s Big Speech?
JULY 19, 2016 AT 4:18 PM
Since I made this video I have analyzed the whole silly scandal and the inescapable logic that this was intentional sabotage and treachery.

Israel’s Mossad has a motto: it is “By deception Thou Shalt Wage War.”

We know the Jewish establishment of both the NeoCon right and Democratic Left despise Donald Trump. Jewish pollster Finkelstein says that Donald Trump is the most unpopular candidate for President among Jews since David Duke’s race of 1992!

Nobody could have been so stupid as to make about five or six common quotes out of Michele Obama’s Demo convention speech just a few years before and put it Melania Trump’s speech and not think it would get exposed!

This is a con job, sabotage, political character assassination plan from the get go!

Also, it seems as though the operative set up Melania, by leaking it to other Jewish media insiders who repeatedly asked her about the speech before she gave it prodding her to suggest that she came up with most of it but was helped a little by the speechwriter.

I would bet a gefilte fish that this was sabotage. I would also bet a bagel it was orchestrated by an Israel Firster who wanted to damage the American Firster.

This is no accident and certainly nothing that Melania did intentionally.

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There are not enough face palms in the world for the US

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http://davidduke.com/jewish-neocon-speechwriter-sabotage-melania-trumps-big-speech/
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Did a Jewish Neocon Speechwriter Sabotage Melania Trump’s Big Speech?
JULY 19, 2016 AT 4:18 PM
Since I made this video I have analyzed the whole silly scandal and the inescapable logic that this was intentional sabotage and treachery.

Israel’s Mossad has a motto: it is “By deception Thou Shalt Wage War.”

We know the Jewish establishment of both the NeoCon right and Democratic Left despise Donald Trump. Jewish pollster Finkelstein says that Donald Trump is the most unpopular candidate for President among Jews since David Duke’s race of 1992!

Nobody could have been so stupid as to make about five or six common quotes out of Michele Obama’s Demo convention speech just a few years before and put it Melania Trump’s speech and not think it would get exposed!

This is a con job, sabotage, political character assassination plan from the get go!

Also, it seems as though the operative set up Melania, by leaking it to other Jewish media insiders who repeatedly asked her about the speech before she gave it prodding her to suggest that she came up with most of it but was helped a little by the speechwriter.

I would bet a gefilte fish that this was sabotage. I would also bet a bagel it was orchestrated by an Israel Firster who wanted to damage the American Firster.

This is no accident and certainly nothing that Melania did intentionally.

Who fucking cares if she did it intentionally? If you lie because someone suggests lying would be a good idea, you've still chosen to lie. And in this case, steal.

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http://www.theparisreview.org/blog/tag/unconventional-comic/

I liked the William S. Burroughs entry in this series.

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Ha ha unironic antisemitism.

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oh sure, run right for the anti-semitism card to defend the Marxist-Kibbutz state

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I would bet a gefilte fish that this was sabotage.

Really?  You'd bet a gefilte fish?  Not Channukah gelt?  The proper racist imagery is right there, man.

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Don't be such a hard toches, Mandark. He also bet a bagel.

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He seems awfully confident this was a schmear job.

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obligatory doomed candidacy update



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ads way better this time than the absolute trash cult-like REVOLUTION stuff of 2012, similar to Paul 2012 (placing his candidacy within the context of the campaign) v. Paul 2008 (obsessed with Ron's standard issues)
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http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/gary-johnson-the-third-party-candidate?currentPage=all
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He also contributed to the development of a strain-specific edible lozenge that he said “is as good a marijuana high that exists on the planet.” How did he know? “As C.E.O., I did some testing,” he said. “Nothing was better.”

“So, if someone wanted to try that strain, how would they acquire it?” I asked.

“Legally, they couldn’t,” Johnson said.

“What about illegally?”

“Well, I’d probably be able to connect you up illegally.”
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“Thirty per cent of Republican voters out there right now believe the scourge of the earth is Mexican immigration,” he told me. “You go to these Party events in New Hampshire and in Iowa, and they set the criteria for the entire nation. It’s profound. You can’t get beyond those two states, because you have to go out and appeal to anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-drugs, anti-immigration—and I’m crossways on all of those. I’d argue I’m the pragmatist in the room, but you can’t get past those groups, especially in those two states.”
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Bill Clinton nominated Weld to be the U.S. Ambassador to Mexico, and Weld resigned as governor to take the job. But Jesse Helms, a Republican senator from North Carolina, who chaired the Foreign Relations Committee, blocked the nomination. As Weld recalled it, Helms claimed that Weld was “soft on drugs and we couldn’t afford to have me in Mexico.”
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Weld spent several years running the Criminal Division in the Justice Department during the Reagan Administration, and delegates asked him a series of hostile questions about his prosecutorial record. As Weld told me, much of what he did at Justice was not “calculated to warm the cockles of the Libertarian heart.” Other delegates objected to the fact that Weld’s wife’s great-uncle, Kermit Roosevelt, was the C.I.A. agent who led the American-backed coup in Iran, in 1953. “Kind of before my time,” Weld said, laughing.
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Johnson thinks that the Pauls were poor advocates for the libertarian cause. “Rand actually ran as a Republican,” Johnson said of the younger Paul’s failed campaign this year. “He was talking about building a fence across the border. He was a social conservative, and he was wearing it on his sleeve—build a fence, crack down on the illegal immigrants that are here. Man! And Ron did the same thing.”
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But Johnson isn’t reflexively against all government. He supports the Environmental Protection Agency, arguing that policing polluters is a proper function of the government. As governor of New Mexico, he aggressively used the power of the state to force Molycorp, a large mining corporation, to clean up a contaminated site. He eventually allowed the E.P.A. to declare the area a Superfund site, turning the issue over to the federal government, which had more resources to go after the company. “The government exists to protect us from harm, and that pollution is harm,” Johnson said. “Libertarians would say, ‘You and I have the ability to sue Molycorp. We can bring them to bear from a private standpoint.’ But the reality? You can’t.”
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Bill Kristol, the editor of The Weekly Standard, said he thought that Weld should be the Presidential candidate. “Weld-Johnson would be a much stronger ticket, and would have a shot to get to fifteen per cent,” Kristol told me. “And Weld on the debate stage taking on Trump and Clinton could be formidable.” Mitt Romney, the most high-profile anti-Trump Republican, said something similar to CNN in June, but he added that he was open to backing Johnson. “If Bill Weld were at the top of the ticket, it would be very easy for me to vote for Bill Weld for President,” Romney said. “So I’ll get to know Gary Johnson better and see if he’s someone who I could end up voting for.” Tim Miller, a former spokesman for Jeb Bush who now works for an anti-Trump super pac, said of Johnson, “Picking Bill Weld was smart, but he needs to carry himself like someone who could seriously be President.” Still, Miller added that at this point he was inclined to vote for Johnson.

Johnson is a big government sellout and notice that Weld didn't actually answer about the CIA coup in Iran.
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holy crap, i hadn't watched rudy :rofl


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BENGAJIZZEEEE





i shouldn't have skipped the first night  :gun :punch

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holy crap, i hadn't watched rudy :rofl

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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/20/magazine/how-donald-trump-picked-his-running-mate.html?_r=0

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One day this past May, Donald Trump’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr., reached out to a senior adviser to Gov. John Kasich of Ohio, who left the presidential race just a few weeks before. As a candidate, Kasich declared in March that Trump was “really not prepared to be president of the United States,” and the following month he took the highly unusual step of coordinating with his rival Senator Ted Cruz in an effort to deny Trump the nomination. But according to the Kasich adviser (who spoke only under the condition that he not be named), Donald Jr. wanted to make him an offer nonetheless: Did he have any interest in being the most powerful vice president in history?

When Kasich’s adviser asked how this would be the case, Donald Jr. explained that his father’s vice president would be in charge of domestic and foreign policy.

Then what, the adviser asked, would Trump be in charge of?

“Making America great again” was the casual reply.

I want to believe that this is true. :lol
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I actually think this is incredibly plausible. Trump is unlikely to have the patience or the interest to actually get into the details of what running a country actually entails, so instead he'll be the figurehead who talks tough and gets crowds whipped up into a frenzy while the Veep does the actual work.

Trump's Razor tells us this is the most likely answer.
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sarah kendzior wrote about that some time ago, guessing trump would pick gingrich, but was otherwise on point regarding trump's interest in the day-to-day work of the presidency.

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What is most likely, Mr. Manafort all but confirms, is that Mr. Trump would be deeply bored.

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But his boredom can be assuaged – and that is why the vice-presidential candidate is so important. Exit the showman, enter the wonk. The United States is not only on the verge of electing a master con artist as president, but a con artist backed by a shadow government that may wield more pragmatic power than the president.

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I'm looking forward to Ted "Trump Called My Wife Ugly and Said My Dad Killed JFK" Cruz's speech tonight. He's a smart politician and he's banking on 2020, so he'll probably just give a boring Anti-Hillary, Pro-Conservative Values speech with a few vague gestures towards supporting the candidate and unifying the party. But I'd love to see Lyin' Ted grovel and scrape before The Donald instead like Chris Christie, or just totally snap onstage and go apeshit on Trump.
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Is Ted Cruz's endorsement something like a hate fuck with an angry ex?
I don't see how a man can stomach getting called an adulterous zodiac killer whose dad has ties to JFK's murder yet still be ready to give the party a handy. Fuck even milquetoast Jeb and boring ass Kasich didn't bend over this easy.
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I actually think this is incredibly plausible. Trump is unlikely to have the patience or the interest to actually get into the details of what running a country actually entails, so instead he'll be the figurehead who talks tough and gets crowds whipped up into a frenzy while the Veep does the actual work.

Trump's Razor tells us this is the most likely answer.

100% plausible yeah, Trump is a standard issue vanity candidate running a vanity campaign.

Republicans just happened to nominate him  :sabu
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The Fifth Circuit ruling against Texas' voter ID law. :aah

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So the only trans person I know in real life has mentioned that she actually doesn't feel very comfortable in the trans community because she tends to have more conservative views. 

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Buckle up buckaroo. :doge

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I was listening to Sean Hannity's radio show and he has a caller bring up BLM/cop violence and Hannity tries to explain how "no one talks about" violence when it doesn't directly involve police.

SH: Listen, Derick, you're from Detroit. You can name Freddie Gray, Michael Brown, Alton Sterling, etc. Can you name one person out of the 3700 killed in Chicago in the same time span?

Derick: I have two cousins who were murdered in Chicago.

SH: Well that's personal so that doesn't really count. Can you name anyone else?

Derick: No.

SH: See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

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I was listening to Sean Hannity's radio show and he has a caller bring up BLM/cop violence and Hannity tries to explain how "no one talks about" violence when it doesn't directly involve police.

SH: Listen, Derick, you're from Detroit. You can name Freddie Gray, Michael Brown, Alton Sterling, etc. Can you name one person out of the 3700 killed in Chicago in the same time span?

Derick: I have two cousins who were murdered in Chicago.

SH: Well that's personal so that doesn't really count. Can you name anyone else?

Derick: No.

SH: See, this is exactly what I'm talking about.

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Now that Trump has been confirmed to be the nominee, let us take a minute or two to bask in this genius' greatness.  Let his greatness wash over you :aah

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I don't think anyone could have predicted this though
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I know that pretending to care about stuff to rhetorically buttress one's politics is an Everybody Does It thing, but "what about black on black violence?" is a particularly disingenuous and morally grody example.

White people bringing it up in the context of a discussion of police violence are never, never, never doing so because they actually give a shit about the victims or the affected communities in such cases.  They are not searching for ways to alleviate the problem, they are not offering their help or even their sympathy.  The entire point is to blame all the suffering of black people on their own moral deficiencies and dismiss any complaints about treatment by the police (and by proxy the white majority) as distractions and reverse racism, possibly stirred up by outsiders and opportunists.

Concern trolling should be old news to me by now, but it rustles me when I bother to think about it.

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Ted Cruz got booed at the end of his speech lol.

I think he was banking on being the Ronald Reagan at the 76 RNC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Republican_National_Convention#Reagan.27s_concession_speech).  Didn't quite happen that way.
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Probably banking on most of the people that signed the Donald Trump suicide pact being dead by 2020.
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Ted Cruz got booed at the end of his speech lol.

I think he was banking on being the Ronald Reagan at the 76 RNC (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Republican_National_Convention#Reagan.27s_concession_speech).  Didn't quite happen that way.

He also got upstaged at the end by Trump entering the arena:

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Trump playing the Overwatch to Cruz's Battleborn :whew

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only 7 mins in and it's pretty good
cruz is too far to the right for me but it's clear he's trying to have his obama moment
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In an interview with the New York Times, Mr. Trump essentially said the U.S. would not abide by the military alliance, one provision of which declares an attack on one to be an attack on all.

He was asked specifically about the possibility of Russian aggression in the Baltic states of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, former Soviet republics that already have had their independence snuffed out by a Kremlin invasion once before, in 1940.

“Mr. Trump said that if Russia attacked them, he would decide whether to come to their aid only after reviewing whether those nations ‘have fulfilled their obligations to us,’” the Times wrote.

Just in case you were thinking that Trump might take a hard line against Russian aggression.
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never heard of this Laura Ingraham chick but she went off eh
...and then basically threw up the nazi salute  :holeup
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Laura Ingraham is Sean Hannity/Rush Limbaugh in a dress.
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Ha ha unironic antisemitism.

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In an interview with the New York Times, Mr. Trump essentially said the U.S. would not abide by the military alliance, one provision of which declares an attack on one to be an attack on all.

He was asked specifically about the possibility of Russian aggression in the Baltic states of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, former Soviet republics that already have had their independence snuffed out by a Kremlin invasion once before, in 1940.

“Mr. Trump said that if Russia attacked them, he would decide whether to come to their aid only after reviewing whether those nations ‘have fulfilled their obligations to us,’” the Times wrote.

Just in case you were thinking that Trump might take a hard line against Russian aggression.

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gotta give daps to Cruz. Jeb Bush is hiding at home, Paul Ryan endorsed Trump like a bitchboy, Christie debased himself...and Cruz went into enemy territory to diss Herr Fuhrer.
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http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/20/politics/ted-cruz-republican-convention-moment/

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Cruz's rebuke ignited a hot scene around the senator as soon as he left the stage. People averted their eyes from Cruz and his wife as they walked with their security detail on the skybox level of boisterous Republicans.
On the donor suite level, people approached Cruz and insulted him, a source told CNN's Dana Bash. One state party chairman reacted so angrily that he had to be restrained.
Cruz, who has long sought the support of GOP megadonor Sheldon Adelson, was turned away when he tried to enter Adelson's suite.

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Bush apparently worried he'll be the last republican president. LOL.
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