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[Freyj]

I keep seeing Super Deluxe / Vic Berger / Tim Heidecker right at the top of every trump tweet I see and it fills me with joy.

[Great Rumbler]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing

So, yeah, Trump is absolutely not going to be tough on Putin. I almost want Trump to be President so that when Putin moves in on former Soviet states and Trump does nothing, I can subsist off the Schadenfreude as the GOP twists itself into a pretzel trying to explain why that's not a bad thing.

[Boogie]

Bernie has got to have been the most toxic political figure I've ever seen in my 32 years. Dude could end up royally fucking this country for his stupid ego.

If the senile idiot had dropped out after New York or even Pennsylvania, the conversations in those emails wouldn't have been necessary.

The Trump campaign might just edge out the Bernie campaign in toxicity, but Bernie's campaign surpassed McCain/Palin awhile back and lapped them several times since then.

Never stop fucking that chicken, GS. 

[Syph]

only publicly viewable for a couple hours

[Boogie]

Worry about your own country or your non-existent sex life you bumblefuck Canadian.

When your ether attempts are a decade out of date, brehs. 

[Human Snorenado]

Not sure if GS is more the textbook definition of "unhelpful ally" or "sore winner" tbh

[benjipwns]

[Mr Gilhaney]

http://gizmodo.com/vapes-are-banned-at-the-democratic-convention-welcome-1784185042

I'm voting Trump now

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

http://gizmodo.com/vapes-are-banned-at-the-democratic-convention-welcome-1784185042

I'm voting Trump now

just when the Bernie supporters couldn't get more salty.

[Mandark]

wow that sounds rough

i will pray 4 u

[curly]

having rage fits because of idiots on facebook

[benjipwns]

i haven't seen a single post promising to dedicate one's soul for gary johnson/bill weld on my facebook

this garbage is becoming seriously problematic

spoiler (click to show/hide)

though it might be because i haven't logged into facebook in months

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[Trent Dole]

This election fucking sucks.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I guess there will be one black person who will vote for Donald Trump:

http://nypost.com/2016/07/24/why-obamas-half-brother-says-hell-be-voting-for-donald-trump/

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The media is totally unbiased, I swear!

[thisismyusername]

I guess there will be one black person who will vote for Donald Trump:

http://nypost.com/2016/07/24/why-obamas-half-brother-says-hell-be-voting-for-donald-trump/

A_I_A!? ( )

The media is totally unbiased, I swear!

Been known for a while. I feel bad for a few people I know that got Journalism degrees with hopes and aspirations of reporting news. Unbiased sources haven't been around for about... 2002?

[benjipwns]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-kaine-vp-ticktock-226069

They had to turn over every password for every social media account for every member of their families.

They had to list every piece of property they’d ever owned, and copies of every résumé that they’d put out for the past 10 years. Every business partner. Every gift they’d ever received, according to those familiar with the details of the vetting process.

For the finalists in the hunt to be Hillary Clinton’s running mate, it was five weeks of questions and follow-up, and follow-up to the follow-up questions, starting from when they were summoned one-by-one to meet with campaign chairman John Podesta and lawyer Jim Hamilton and told to bring along just one trusted person who’d serve as the point of contact.

Last Friday was interview day at Clinton’s D.C. home, the final exam that some of the VP candidates had spent weeks with their staffs preparing their pitches for. Clinton, with Podesta seated nearby as the only other one in the room, would start the session by talking them up.

Then she’d ask: “Why do you want the job?”

Also, at this:

Others tried less direct ways of lobbying themselves. Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper got himself as far as one of the interviews after spending the spring on a book tour. His near constant presence in Washington even put him meeting with former Congresswoman and longtime Clinton supporter Jane Harman at the Wilson Center to talk foreign policy, and hiring a New York-based public relations firm that urged reporters to interview him about gun control and terrorism.

“Governor John Hickenlooper of Colorado, who is still dealing with the fallout from the 2012 mass shooting in Aurora, is disturbed by [Donald] Trump’s comments about Orlando and is available to discuss it,” read one emailed pitch.

Podesta’s leak-protection plan assigned each candidate a different additional lawyer to handle the vetting. The 150 questions on the first part of the questionnaire were standard, with an addendum based on their individual histories that surprised some of the candidates with how much they’d already been vetted before they knew that the process had actually started. Round after round came back with more follow up questions, swamping aides for weeks.

That hurt Castro, who’d been speculated on early as a favorite but rankled Clinton allies with the shadow campaign he’d launched for the job a year earlier. By the time the real process got underway, he’d faded from top consideration.

The Clinton campaign, which provided traveling reporters Friday night with a press release in background, bullet point form about the process, was carefully nudging narratives throughout. In late June, they purposefully seeded the same story to multiple reporters that the shortlist was Kaine, Warren and Castro—though they’d already all but ruled out Warren and Castro—in a successful effort to get stories out about the different possible factors that might make the decision, and to see the response those generated.

[seagrams hotsauce]

Do we not all have tons of people on our Facebook feeds telling us that they will never (note: they always say I'll never, not I won't, apparently the little shits think there will be more than one opportunity) vote for Hillary?

Of course not, and I'm frankly insulted you'd assume my associates are as shitty as your facebook friends

[Atramental]

Ideological purity is admirable but highly impractical and dangerous when a fascist orange and his scumbag cronies are this close to the presidency. Hillary is by no means ideal but she won't destroy all that the Obama administration has worked so hard to build in these last 8 years. And I'm not here to debate or change people's minds. That's a waste of time since you're all grown adults who can make your own educated decisions. -Peace

Just wrote this on a friend's post who had some unbending Bernie supporters in the comments.   

Are you happy, Walrus?

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah, basically it boils down to this: I shouldn't have to suffer because you have stupid friends, Walrus. Take it up with them, stop being their friend, but shut up about it if you're not going to directly confront them with it. I've already spoken privately with everyone I know that is all "ugh ew Hillary, she's an evil criminal" that would otherwise vote for a democrat.

[Mandark]

Edit: the racism and sexism that the Sanders campaign unleashed are most of the reason I called the campaign toxic. That and their disgusting entitlement.

lol you don't care about that shit

[Trent Dole]

Yeah, basically it boils down to this: I shouldn't have to suffer because you have stupid friends, Walrus. Take it up with them, stop being their friend, but shut up about it if you're not going to directly confront them with it. I've already spoken privately with everyone I know that is all "ugh ew Hillary, she's an evil criminal" that would otherwise vote for a democrat.

I have people in my Fb feed that support Drumpf.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Yeah, basically it boils down to this: I shouldn't have to suffer because you have stupid friends, Walrus. Take it up with them, stop being their friend, but shut up about it if you're not going to directly confront them with it. I've already spoken privately with everyone I know that is all "ugh ew Hillary, she's an evil criminal" that would otherwise vote for a democrat.

Talking politics with people

Don't be this guy, nobody likes this guy.

[Atramental]

It's a cross some of us have to bear to prevent the rise of the 4th Reich. 

[Human Snorenado]

Yeah, basically it boils down to this: I shouldn't have to suffer because you have stupid friends, Walrus. Take it up with them, stop being their friend, but shut up about it if you're not going to directly confront them with it. I've already spoken privately with everyone I know that is all "ugh ew Hillary, she's an evil criminal" that would otherwise vote for a democrat.

Talking politics with people

Don't be this guy, nobody likes this guy.

"Please, don't challenge my shitty beliefs that will negatively impact the country, let's just drink beer and talk about whatever"

Also, Walrus- you are pretty stupid and awful. Maybe shut the fuck up and talk about this shit with your therapist. You either think you're funny/clever (spoiler alert- you are not) or have serious, serious anger issues. The sort that I fully expect to one day read about you shooting up some place full of people you perceive as enemies. Even odds on it being an NRA rally or an anarchist bookstore, honestly. Seek help and stfu in the meantime.

[Tasty]

 

[TakingBackSunday]

This is what the election has done to us

[Human Snorenado]

People are stupid and awful. This does not exclude people you will need to ally yourself with for whatever reason. If you're just now realizing this, I really don't know what to tell you.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Yeah, basically it boils down to this: I shouldn't have to suffer because you have stupid friends, Walrus. Take it up with them, stop being their friend, but shut up about it if you're not going to directly confront them with it. I've already spoken privately with everyone I know that is all "ugh ew Hillary, she's an evil criminal" that would otherwise vote for a democrat.

Talking politics with people

Don't be this guy, nobody likes this guy.

"Please, don't challenge my shitty beliefs that will negatively impact the country, let's just drink beer and talk about whatever"

Also, Walrus- you are pretty stupid and awful. Maybe shut the fuck up and talk about this shit with your therapist. You either think you're funny/clever (spoiler alert- you are not) or have serious, serious anger issues. The sort that I fully expect to one day read about you shooting up some place full of people you perceive as enemies. Even odds on it being an NRA rally or an anarchist bookstore, honestly. Seek help and stfu in the meantime.

If it's your friends or family,  okay.

If it's your work peers, randoms at a bar/restaurant, or me riding in an elevator....no, just no.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

DWS is stepping down

[thisismyusername]

DWS is stepping down

Speaking of which:

Glen TRIGGER warning: http://www.npr.org/2016/07/24/487242426/bernie-sanders-dnc-emails-outrageous-but-not-a-shock

Sanders also called the emails an "outrage" and "sad" but also that they do not come as "a great shock." He believes that the DNC was "at opposition to our campaign" all along, he said Sunday morning.

"BernieBros" were right all along? SHOCK.

Also:


If this turns out to be true, don't say Ron Paul didn't warn you

[Tasty]

 

[Trent Dole]

 

[Phoenix Dark]

Can we discuss how Romney was right about Russia.

 

[Boogie]

mean-spirited

really?

[seagrams hotsauce]

walrus has never been in a fight or even cursed someone out irl, I would put money on it

[Am_I_Anonymous]

walrus has never been in a fight or even cursed someone out irl, I would put money on it

Neither die the guy who killed people in Munich. Food for thought.

[Mupepe]

Fuck you for liking Mandark's horseshit post accusing me of not caring about racism or sexism, Mupepe. And fuck everyone else who liked it. The fact that a mean-spirited old shitstain like Mandark would write something like that isn't surprising, but it is surprising seeing some people agree with it.

Get fucking bent.

This post is so toxic and is filled with anti semitic undertones

[seagrams hotsauce]

walrus has never been in a fight or even cursed someone out irl, I would put money on it

Neither die the guy who killed people in Munich. Food for thought.

you are so fuckin weird dude

[toku]

[Am_I_Anonymous]

walrus has never been in a fight or even cursed someone out irl, I would put money on it

Neither die the guy who killed people in Munich. Food for thought.

you are so fuckin weird dude

Sorry I said what you all are thinking.

Walrus is either our greatest troll or completely mentally unstable.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

The new DNC chair for the week.

Not to worry though.  According to the people who have been colluding with the DNC for the past several months, including holding illegal fundraisers, Donald Trump is a Russian Manchurian candidate, personally groomed by Vladimir Putin himself!  Meanwhile pay no attention to any past dealings the Clintons have had with the Russians: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

Both parties are fucking jokes.  Corruption and incompetency at all levels it seems.  Maybe Obama can find a way to run a third term.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

She's (the former chair) utterly useless. As a real world comparative it would be like me asking for you to be banned. Nobody will listen.

[Human Snorenado]

It's not really surprising that a sociopath like MTW is buying into the "both parties are the same" drivel, I guess

[Am_I_Anonymous]

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/24/politics/robby-mook-russia-dnc-emails-trump/index.html





Such a bad look here.

[Mandark]

mean-spirited

really?

"Mandark may be old, he may be a shitstain, but..."

[Syph]

"Clinton names Wasserman Schultz honorary chair of campaign team"

lol wow
it sucks that Trump is the other option, believe me it does, but wow how someone could vote for such a transparently corrupt person is fucked
really wonder how the election will turn out, and it's only July
sidenote: time to see if Bernie has any balls (spoilers: he doesn't)

[Phoenix Dark]

Kinda starting to think Hillary would be losing to Rubio or Kasich right now. I don't see how either could overcome demographic issues and get to 270 but jeez. Seems clear the Hillary camp doesn't give a fuck how any of this looks.

And no I don't buy into the idea this was rigged. Sanders lost fair in square. And I understand why democrat officials wanted the actual democrat to win. Lord knows what RNC officials were saying about Trump in March.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

It's typical that there is a convention bump.  So it's likely that Clinton will get a bump as well this week.  However, anyone who assumed it was going to be a blowout is/was lying to themselves.  Even Nate Silver is starting to admit it.  Which maybe means it's so obvious that even he can tell or that since he has been so wrong about things so far that Hillary will win in a landslide.  I guess we'll wait and see!

The polls in my opinion start to matter a lot more after the first debate, which will probably be in September.  My apolitical yet voting friends and family don't start giving a shit about the election until the first debate.  So right now this is all just noise.

[Phoenix Dark]

So she's down 3% (CNN two person poll) in a poll that under samples 18-34yo demographic. Ok...

What is a blowout btw? I'm apt to believe Hillary will do Obama 2012 EC total, minus Iowa, plus NC.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

So she's down 3% (CNN two person poll) in a poll that under samples 18-34yo demographic. Ok...

What is a blowout btw? I'm apt to believe Hillary will do Obama 2012 EC total, minus Iowa, plus NC.

Let's see how her convention goes first big fella. She's outshined by at least 3 of the people speaking which is hilariously Hillary-like.

Also this stupid Bernie fallout isn't over yet. I'm 50/50 on if he toes the line or goes all Ted Cruz.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

Aspernerd now predicts Trump victory

[TakingBackSunday]

Okay I'm officially scared

[Atramental]

Hopefully after November we can all look back on this and laugh. 

Key word being hopefully.

[Phoenix Dark]

Hoping Hillary falls below 60 cents on PredictIt. Cashed in my Tim Kaine shares and made good money, now I'm waiting to put the cash back into a market.

I got some Hillary shares months ago but want more.

[octopushover]

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#now

Aspernerd now predicts Trump victory

that's not a prediction.

that's literally the results if the election were held today. it's a nowdiction.

[Madrun Badrun]

That feel when you wake up everyday, read the news, and remember you're Canadian. 

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Trump is doing much better than McCain and Romney at this point.

Hillary is going to need to knock it out of the park on debates.  Fortunately this is likely because if all Trump has to say is "I made billions and billions of dollars" like he did in the primary, that is not going to fly.

[Phoenix Dark]

Trump is doing much better than McCain and Romney at this point.

Hillary is going to need to knock it out of the park on debates.  Fortunately this is likely because if all Trump has to say is "I made billions and billions of dollars" like he did in the primary, that is not going to fly.

This is literally not true. McCain's RCP average was 48.1 at this time in 08. IIRC Romney's was 46. Trump is at 44.

Until I see a logical map that gets Trump to 270 I'm not worried. I don't buy Trump winning Florida. Even now Trump is not winning whites by enough to overcome the Hispanic vote there.