Author Topic: US Politics Thread |OT| THE DARKEST TIMELINE  (Read 2771724 times)

0 Members and 18 Guests are viewing this topic.

Joe Molotov

  • I'm much more humble than you would understand.
  • Administrator
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18420 on: August 07, 2016, 05:43:34 PM »
Wait, why would polls showing your chosen candidate losing be a bad thing for you?

Losing polls energize the voter base. Winning polls make constituents complacent.

Am I missing something here or is it that the conservative media can't see past "GOP nominee is losing"? ???

Poll numbers are like NPD data. If your team is winning then it's great, if your team is losing then they forgot to count Wal-Mart.
©@©™

benjipwns

  • your bright ideas always burn me
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18421 on: August 07, 2016, 05:54:18 PM »
You also need to factor in digital sales (reddit upvotes) to get the complete picture.

benjipwns

  • your bright ideas always burn me
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18422 on: August 07, 2016, 09:34:08 PM »


finally

spoiler (click to show/hide)
proletariat broom/mop handle not included
spoiler (click to show/hide)
[close]
« Last Edit: August 07, 2016, 09:49:34 PM by benjipwns »

benjipwns

  • your bright ideas always burn me
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18423 on: August 07, 2016, 11:39:33 PM »

Great Rumbler

  • Dab on the sinners
  • Global Moderator
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18424 on: August 07, 2016, 11:52:32 PM »
Watching that video actually hurt my brain.
dog

Syph

  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18425 on: August 08, 2016, 04:43:55 AM »
Wait, why would polls showing your chosen candidate losing be a bad thing for you?

Losing polls energize the voter base. Winning polls make constituents complacent.

Am I missing something here or is it that the conservative media can't see past "GOP nominee is losing"? ???
Sometimes these things can be self-fulfilling.
I'll try and find a link in the morning, but fivethirtyeight had a great article months ago about how this was occurring in regards to negative news articles about Hillary.

In this case though I don't think Clinton is really sweating
XO

benjipwns

  • your bright ideas always burn me
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18426 on: August 08, 2016, 07:49:02 AM »
kara help

COMMUNIST PARTY UNITES BEHIND HILLARY
spoiler (click to show/hide)
Quote
That passion was in full display with a seven-person team of “reporters” covering their national political convention last month. And their convention was the Democratic National Convention that nominated Hillary Rodham Clinton as their undisputed candidate for president of the United States.

Exaggeration? Judge for yourself.

Here are excerpts from the editorial produced as part of that coverage by the team credentialed to cover the convention by the Democratic Party.

“Donald Trump steals wages. He’d pick your pocket in a New York minute. He lies and spreads hate. He’s a racist and a bully.”

“Do not underestimate Trump and the Republicans. While the establishment GOP was surprised by the successful insurgency of so-called outsider Trump, they are united in purpose: delivering more inequality, more misery, more instability and violence against working-class people of all races, genders, religions and sexual orientations. They are united with giant corporations and the billionaire class in their drive to lower wages and living conditions and increase their profits and power.”

“With Senator Bernie Sanders endorsing Secretary of State Hillary Clinton the message was loud and clear, “We’re stronger together.” That is what it will take to win in November.”
Quote
“Winning in a landslide” is needed now more than ever, and that landslide for Clinton could swing control of the Senate to Democrats, and other potential positive effects could be felt on the ‘down ballot’ congressional and state races.”
...
The Communists, who for decades ran their own candidates for president and vice president but supported Barack Obama in 2008 and 2012, don’t just like Hillary and Bernie. The party also gave a big thumbs-up to Clinton’s running mate, Tim Kaine.

“He’s a great choice,” wrote staffer Larry Rubin on the first day of the convention. “Kaine pushed the political envelope of Virginia, an erstwhile red southern state, in a progressive direction – and won! He was elected mayor of Richmond, then governor of the state and then senator. Everyone agrees: he’s a sincere, nice guy.”
Quote
The Communist Party was so eager to endorse Obama for re-election, it couldn’t wait until 2012. It did so a year before the campaign officially got under way.

The party was jubilant in 2008, when Obama won his first race for the presidency.

Hailing Barack Obama’s win as a victory for the “working class,” the Communist Party USA called on the president-elect to carry out his promises, including his noted commitment to “spread the wealth.” An editorial by the People’s Weekly World, the official newspaper of the party, said the victory was for “workers of all job titles, professions, shapes, colors, sizes, hairstyles and languages.”

In 2009, President Obama’s leadership was “one of the best opportunities that Americans have had in decades,” declared a civil-rights activist addressing an overflow crowd at a gathering sponsored by the official newspaper of the Community Party USA.

The party was never disappointed by Obama. Here’s how it critiqued Obama’s final State of the Union Address earlier this year:

“In his final SOTU address, President Obama projected a bold vision for a more socially and economically just nation while appealing to the hopes of the American people. … President Obama pointedly rejected rightwing-Republican policy solutions including repeal of Obamacare, aggressive military buildup and action, tax cuts to the wealthy, blocking common-sense gun control … He also rejected efforts to exploit the fears of the American people using hate, anti-Muslim bigotry, racism and division.
Quote
“Amazing as it may seem, Barack Obama has dragged the entire Democratic Party so far leftward over the past seven-plus years that today’s Democratic Party has become almost indistinguishable from the Communist Party.

“If that sounds hyperbolic to you, just stop reading right now and pull up the CPUSA’s website,” he added. “Spend some time reading and digesting it. Try to discern any major differences between the Communist Party’s concerns, sensibilities and solutions – on issues from ‘gay’ rights, to unfettered immigration, to renewable energy, to wealth redistribution, to condemning cops as racist, to universal health care – and those of today’s Democratic Party.”
Quote
Meanwhile, an email sent out by the Communist Party USA over the weekend had this to say: “The 2016 elections are in full swing. Many of our districts and clubs and members are actively participating in the campaign to strike a blow to the extreme right and defeat Donald Trump and other down ballot GOP extremists. If you’re not yet involved, there are many ways to get connected with labor and our allies, especially in the key battleground states and in targeted congressional and state legislative races. But no matter where you live you can be part of this exciting election. We can defeat Trump, oust right-wing majorities in Congress and statehouses while also building powerful labor-led people’s movements, advancing a progressive agenda and political independence at the grassroots. We have some great tools, beginning with People’s World daily (sic) Marxist analysis.”

http://peoplesworld.org/green-party-safe-state-strategy-is-neither-safe-nor-a-strategy/
Quote
The aim should be a landslide defeat of Trump and a decisive rejection of hate.

The election of Clinton as the first woman president would make history. A landslide would not end sexism, but it would represent a mighty blow just as the election of President Obama was a blow against racism. It would advance democracy.

A landslide makes it more likely that GOP Congressional and state legislative majorities can be ousted and an end put to the politics of obstruction. Most people tend to vote straight ticket.

A landslide will give added weight to the progressive platform adopted at the Democratic Convention and give encouragement to appoint progressive Supreme Court justices. It would be added pressure against backsliding on opposition to TPP and other trade deals. It will put public opinion and the movements in a better position to pressure against Clinton's tendency toward military adventurism and policies of regime change.
 
With a Democratic president and Congress the post-election political terrain will shift and give immediate momentum to the new Clinton administration.

Even if Trump is defeated, the movement he spawned and the extremist ideas powering it will be a factor in politics for a long time to come. A massive repudiation of Trump will weaken and isolate this movement.

Fourthly, politics is more than voting one's conscience. It's about building electoral and governing coalitions that can broadly advance struggle on the issues. Voting is tactical and rarely does someone vote for candidates they agree with 100%.

One's associations also collectively shape voting. Unity of the broad people's coalition before, during and after the election will do more to ensure the progressive Democratic Party platform is implemented by the new Clinton administration.

The broad coalition of labor, communities of color, women, LGBT, young people, environmental, immigration, disability rights activists, etc. is the only force capable of effectively challenging corporate power and changing the country long term. This electoral coalition and its grassroots capacity are being built through the electoral process, giving it the ability to influence and mobilize key constituencies.

This coalition will not only continue to influence Clinton in a progressive direction, but forms the basis of growing political independence and a future labor-led third party that will advocate radical economic, political and social restructuring. 

Parts of this electoral coalition are also taking up Sanders' challenge to run thousands of candidates at every level committed to the "political revolution."

Voting Green Party separates activists and voters from these key forces. One cannot credibly engage in mobilizations of labor, civil rights, women's organizations, LGBT community, and environmentalists while also advocating voting Green Party.

http://peoplesworld.org/landslide-in-november/
Quote
"Winning in a landslide" is needed now more than ever, and that landslide for Clinton could swing control of the Senate to Democrats, and other potential positive effects could be felt on the "down ballot" congressional and state races.

Many things could happen between now and November. Don't count out the American people in seeing with new eyes, what is at stake in November, which is just about everything.

quick...i need a hit of BA
http://revcom.us/a/451/to-the-greens-en.html
Quote
To the Greens: Elections Under This System Will NEVER Transform Shit
We Need to OVERTHROW This System, Not Vote For It
We Need an ACTUAL REVOLUTION!
Updated August 8, 2016 | Revolution Newspaper | revcom.us
 
The Green Party platform promises to end poverty, cut the U.S. military budget in half, protect the environment, provide free access to education and health care to people in the U.S., demilitarize the police, end racism, and more. When everyone who is horrified by Trump's fascist madness is being told the only "alternative" is Hillary Clinton, the Green's candidate for president, Jill Stein, says, "Hillary Clinton has a very clear, lifelong—practically lifelong track record for locking up African Americans, for deporting immigrants, for serving the interests of Wall Street, being funded by Wall Street and the war profiteers. So, let's not pretend for a minute that Hillary Clinton's track record offers us any hope."

It's easy to understand why this has appeal. It is, indeed, completely unnecessary and intolerable for a tiny handful of capitalists to control the wealth produced by billions around the world in conditions of enforced suffering and brutality, for police to continue gunning down Blacks and Latinos, for the U.S. military to invade and plunder the world, and for the environment to every day be pushed closer to total catastrophe. And it is true that Hillary Clinton is part of the problem and there is no basis to place hope in her candidacy.

But the notion that these outrages can be ended by "voting Green" is a harmful delusion.
Quote
Any political program that doesn't seriously deal with that is like setting an unsuspecting person up on a date with a serial killer.

We need to OVERTHROW, not vote for, this system.

There is in fact a program and a strategy to do just that, based on a scientific analysis of society. There is leadership developing this, and an organized force working to make it real. And we're gonna get into that.
Quote
The Greens don't have a program to do this, but the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA, does.

The Revolutionary Communist Party is organizing now to overthrow this system at the soonest possible time. It is preparing to lead an actual revolution to bring about a radically new and better society: see the Constitution for the New Socialist Republic in North America. It is doing this based on the scientific approach and strategy developed by Bob Avakian, the Karl Marx of our time. Bob Avakian has developed a new synthesis of communism and is actively leading the fight not to redistribute the spoils of this empire, but to bring about a world free of empire—a world in which all seven billion are emancipated.

There is no shortcut to a society on the road to human emancipation. There is no way to meet the people's needs by playing within their rules and within the framework of the Capitalist-Imperialist System. There is no painless way to get there, no way to wield the instruments given you by this ruling class when they possess the bottom-line monopoly on force. But revolution is possible and there is a way to fight and a real chance to win.

This is a harder road. But it is far more realistic—and far, far more liberating. Get into it and get with it today. Engage with the work of Bob Avakian, and form your own opinion. Go to revcom.us. Join the Revolution Club. As you do—and as part of preparing for and hastening this revolution—join in waging powerful, mass independent political resistance against this system's crimes that breaks out of their official and meaningless electoral channels. This is the only way anything meaningful has ever been won.

awww yeah baby, one more
http://revcom.us/a/450/the-deadly-logic-of-the-lesser-evil-en.html
Quote
We had to vote for Obama and the Democrats, we were told, to put a stop to the great harm that was being done by George W. Bush and the Republicans. But did voting for Obama, and having Obama as president, prevent the fascism that has increasingly characterized the Republican Party from reaching a dangerously new level with the Trump candidacy? Obviously not. But why not? Because Obama and the Democrats, as well as Trump and the Republicans, are products and representatives of the same system of capitalism-imperialism, and that system has its fundamental dynamics and ways it has to function, which mean that anyone who rises to the top of that system must continually commit crimes against humanity.

Funneling good sentiments and intentions into voting for Democrats, time after time—accepting and “validating” the logic and assumptions of this system, rather than opposing the whole system and its endless crimes, presided over by both Democrats and Republicans—has made people complicit with these crimes and has contributed to the situation we are in, where an overt, undisguised fascist candidacy, embodied in Trump, is contending seriously to assume the leadership of this system, and it is now being insisted that only voting for Clinton, who is guilty of many despicable and monstrous crimes against humanity herself, can stop Trump and what he represents. As for the argument, “Well, yes, Clinton is not what we really want, she is actually quite bad, but she is ‘the lesser evil,’ and there are realistically only two choices—either Clinton or Trump—so if you don’t go for Clinton you are helping elect Trump,” this actually amounts to nothing more than the argument that, “As long as you accept the logic and ‘choices’ dictated by this system, you have to accept the logic and ‘choices’ dictated by this system.” Doesn’t the fact that this system has produced someone like Trump as a “legitimate” candidate, heading one of the two major political parties of this system—doesn’t this powerfully demonstrate the utter illegitimacy of the whole system? And the fact that Clinton and the Democrats will only oppose Trump with arguments that amount to insisting that they are better representatives of this same system, and can do a better job of perpetrating its crimes—doesn’t this powerfully demonstrate the urgent need to break with the logic and assumptions of this system and rise up against it and those who represent it, including Clinton as well as Trump?
[close]

benjipwns

  • your bright ideas always burn me
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18427 on: August 08, 2016, 09:14:31 AM »
THE REPUBLICAN SAVIOR

Quote
Key players in GOP’s anti-Trump movement are preparing to launch an independent presidential campaign for Evan McMullin — a CIA veteran and the chief policy director of the House Republican conference — sources close to the effort told BuzzFeed News.

Veteran Republican strategist Rick Wilson, a Florida-based media consultant and outspoken Trump critic, is expected to be involved in McMullin’s campaign. Sources said Wilson was in Washington on Sunday meeting with members of McMullin’s prospective campaign — which includes some who were involved in a group called Better for America, which has been pushing an independent presidential bid.

McMullin did not immediately respond to requests for comment from BuzzFeed News. He would make for an unlikely presidential candidate. He has never held elective office before and has spent most of his career as a CIA officer, according to his LinkedIn page. Young and unmarried, McMullin received an MBA at Wharton in 2011, and after a stint at Goldman Sachs, went to work as a policy wonk on Capitol Hill.

Unlike National Review writer David French, another conservative courted by anti-Trump Republicans to launch a long-shot third-party bid, McMullin has virtually no public profile. He doesn’t appear regularly on television, and has just 135 followers on Twitter. His most high-profile recent appearance seems to have been a TEDx talk about genocide he gave at London Business School in April.
Quote
In 2011, McMullin transitioned to the investment banking sector at Goldman Sachs
Quote
His Highest-Profile Speech Is a TEDx Talk on Genocide in April
Quote
McMullin Thinks America Needs to Show Strength Around the World & Criticized Obama for Leaving Iraq

benjipwns

  • your bright ideas always burn me
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18428 on: August 08, 2016, 10:42:10 AM »

thisismyusername

  • GunOn™! Apply directly to forehead!
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18429 on: August 08, 2016, 02:05:04 PM »
Why can't anyone in this election cycle apparently put together a decent visualization of data :stahp

Hillary =  :obama

Trump = :donot

Johnson =  :hans1

Stein =    :idont

This post needs to be hall-of-famed all on it's own. :lol :lol :lol :dead

Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18430 on: August 08, 2016, 02:12:19 PM »



THE REPUBLICAN SAVIOR

Quote
Key players in GOP’s anti-Trump movement are preparing to launch an independent presidential campaign for Evan McMullin — a CIA veteran and the chief policy director of the House Republican conference — sources close to the effort told BuzzFeed News.

Veteran Republican strategist Rick Wilson, a Florida-based media consultant and outspoken Trump critic, is expected to be involved in McMullin’s campaign. Sources said Wilson was in Washington on Sunday meeting with members of McMullin’s prospective campaign — which includes some who were involved in a group called Better for America, which has been pushing an independent presidential bid.

McMullin did not immediately respond to requests for comment from BuzzFeed News. He would make for an unlikely presidential candidate. He has never held elective office before and has spent most of his career as a CIA officer, according to his LinkedIn page. Young and unmarried, McMullin received an MBA at Wharton in 2011, and after a stint at Goldman Sachs, went to work as a policy wonk on Capitol Hill.

Unlike National Review writer David French, another conservative courted by anti-Trump Republicans to launch a long-shot third-party bid, McMullin has virtually no public profile. He doesn’t appear regularly on television, and has just 135 followers on Twitter. His most high-profile recent appearance seems to have been a TEDx talk about genocide he gave at London Business School in April.
Quote
In 2011, McMullin transitioned to the investment banking sector at Goldman Sachs
Quote
His Highest-Profile Speech Is a TEDx Talk on Genocide in April
Quote
McMullin Thinks America Needs to Show Strength Around the World & Criticized Obama for Leaving Iraq

look at this humpty dumpty motherfucker right here

benjipwns

  • your bright ideas always burn me
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18431 on: August 08, 2016, 02:40:34 PM »
Quote
My Fellow Americans,

Our American Nation is the greatest experiment in freedom the world has ever known. It’s given generations of citizens the blessings of liberty ever since the Founding Fathers risked their lives in what seemed like an improbable bid for independence. While the republic they created was one of imperfect freedoms, for 240 years the arc of progress and liberty has moved ever-upward. Even in times of economic crisis and war, our nation has been a singular source of hope for people throughout the world yearning for liberty, dignity and opportunity.

I proudly and quietly served our country for most of my adult life, first as an undercover operations officer with the Central Intelligence Agency and more recently as a senior national security and policy advisor in the House of Representatives. My service has given me unique, firsthand knowledge of the threats our nation faces, the burdens borne by hardworking Americans, and the numerous areas of our government that desperately need reform.

Like millions of Americans, I had hoped this year would bring us better nominees who, despite party differences, could offer compelling visions of a better future. Instead, we have been left with two candidates who are fundamentally unfit for the profound responsibilities they seek.

Hillary Clinton is a corrupt career politician who has recklessly handled classified information in an attempt to avoid accountability and put American lives at risk including those of my former colleagues. She fails the basic tests of judgment and ethics any candidate for President must meet. Moreover, she only offers stale economic ideas like the same old top-down government control that has brought us eight years of historically low growth.

Donald Trump appeals to the worst fears of Americans at a time we need unity, not division. Republicans are deeply divided by a man who is perilously close to gaining the most powerful position in the world, and many rightly see him as a real threat to our Republic. Given his obvious personal instability, putting him in command of our military and nuclear arsenal would be deeply irresponsible. His infatuation with strongmen and demagogues like Vladimir Putin is anathema to America values. We cannot and must not elect him.

Millions of Americans are not being represented by either of these candidates; those of us who care about the strength of the military and intelligence services find little to embrace in either Trump or Clinton.

Americans who believe in limited, Constitutional government that is smaller, smarter, and more accountable view both Clinton and Trump as symbols of corruption and excess that provide no hope of basic competence in the federal government.

Those who embrace the dignity and value of every human life from conception until death; who understand the crushing danger of our unsustainable national debt; who believe deference to our Constitution outweighs partisan political priorities are all looking for something better than the two major party candidates are offering. These foundational and time-tested principles transcend party and politics but sadly have no champion in this election. We must not abandon the fight for these values, for doing so will deprive future generations of Americans the bright future we want to give them.

With the stakes so high for our nation and at this late stage in the process, I can no longer stand on the sidelines. Our country needs leaders who are in it for the right reasons and who actually understand what makes this country the greatest on earth. Leaders who will unite us and guide us to a prosperous, secure future, beyond the dysfunction of a broken political system.

Just as the American Revolution required men and women devoted to liberty and freedom to stand up and be counted, this moment calls a new generation to the same sacred task. With that in mind, I have decided to pursue the cause of American renewal and the Presidency of the United States of America.

With Hope For Our Future,

Evan McMullin

Evan McMullin is an independent candidate for President.
website is expanding quickly: https://www.evanmcmullin.com/issues

he supports a strong america that creates good jobs and has a smartly run government and has no abortion on demand and replacing the failed obamacare with quality modern health care

Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18432 on: August 08, 2016, 02:45:07 PM »
he supports a small government with just enough horses and men to put him back together again


Tasty

  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18434 on: August 08, 2016, 06:07:37 PM »
Quote
Trump’s current poll numbers are abysmal — a new poll has him down seven points in Georgia, a state Democrats haven’t won in a quarter century.

Sheeeeiiiit brehs :whew

Tasty

  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18435 on: August 08, 2016, 06:18:18 PM »


Texas getting prettttttyyy light.  :betty

Trent Dole

  • the sharpest tool in the shed
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18436 on: August 08, 2016, 06:46:37 PM »
^Wow, November is going to be a fucking bloodbath. Hope some of that flows through to the congressional houses. It's really funny to see Trump boosters complain that the polls must be biased when in actuality members of his own party are out in droves speaking against him.
Hi

Mandark

  • Icon
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18437 on: August 08, 2016, 07:13:06 PM »
I expect it to tighten a bit at some point, since there are still lots of people looking for reasons not to vote for Hillary, and she'll get a run of bad press for whatever reason.  But yeah, not looking great for Trump right now.

Also, whatever happened to that james dude in this thread?

Rufus

  • 🙈🙉🙊
  • Senior Member

Great Rumbler

  • Dab on the sinners
  • Global Moderator
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18439 on: August 08, 2016, 09:21:33 PM »
I expect it to tighten a bit at some point, since there are still lots of people looking for reasons not to vote for Hillary, and she'll get a run of bad press for whatever reason.  But yeah, not looking great for Trump right now.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/comparing-2012-and-2016

Really puts things into stark perspective.
dog

Phoenix Dark

  • I got no game it's just some bitches understand my story
  • Senior Member
010


Human Snorenado

  • Stay out of Malibu, Lebowski
  • Icon
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18442 on: August 08, 2016, 11:45:08 PM »
Keep fuckin that chicken, brehs
yar

VomKriege

  • Do the moron
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18443 on: August 09, 2016, 01:02:59 AM »
I would say it's dumb but they convinced some of their viewers that your president is a secret Kenyan muslim, so you know...
ὕβρις

brawndolicious

  • Nylonhilist
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18444 on: August 09, 2016, 01:49:58 AM »
Why would the polls tighten up? That's what happens when you have normal candidates with the experience and foresight to know that you should look like a leader and have a consistent, calm message to retreat to in dark times.

Trump is not normal and I expect the final results to be wider than the 7 or so percent polls are showing now. It's not like people could stand his bullshitting forever.

Mandark

  • Icon
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18445 on: August 09, 2016, 02:09:23 AM »
Not saying it will necessarily be tight at the end, but we've got three more months of this bullshit and I would be surprised if there isn't at least one week where Trump gets a good round of polling and it's at least temporarily closer than it is now.

Stoney Mason

  • So Long and thanks for all the fish
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18446 on: August 09, 2016, 02:50:15 AM »
The way the media tends to cover these things in a horse race bias style (and in general just a shitty faux balance approach) and just the law of averages probably says the race will tighten up some. Which is different than saying of course that Trump is going to win.

The media tends to get tired of the same narrative which also dictates coverage. From the get go and through out I think Hillary has the advantages and it will take some major catastrophe or America getting super dumb in the next 3 months for Trump to win. I never count out the latter since we elected George Bush twice but I wouldn't bet on it this time hopefully. 

The map and demographics are clearly in favor of Hillary but I tend to take any poll this far out as nice but let's wait a bit and let things get closer before we start predicting a historic blowout.

Phoenix Dark

  • I got no game it's just some bitches understand my story
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18447 on: August 09, 2016, 08:33:22 AM »
The media wants a tight race. I saw a bit of NBC this week (via Twitter). Chuck Todd was presenting the new NBC poll that has Clinton up 9 points. The very first thing he said was that "this poll has bad news for both candidates." Seriously?

And of course don't forget Clinton will be hit with more email leaks. She's also likely to make another unforced error or two. Obviously she's going to win big but I'd expect the polls to tighten at least twice between now and late October.
010

Human Snorenado

  • Stay out of Malibu, Lebowski
  • Icon
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18448 on: August 09, 2016, 09:13:57 AM »
Where's AiA telling us we're all deluded and she's doomed to lose

:neogaf
yar

archie4208

  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18449 on: August 09, 2016, 11:25:27 AM »
Hillary is slgihtly ahead in Georgia.   :leon

My vote might be useful for once.   :jawalrus

Brehvolution

  • Until at last, I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the mountainside.
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18450 on: August 09, 2016, 01:45:37 PM »
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/08/clinton-leads-in-nc-for-first-time-since-march.html

Quote
-69% of Trump voters think that if Hillary Clinton wins the election it will be because it was rigged, to only 16% who think it would be because she got more vote than Trump. More specifically 40% of Trump voters think that ACORN (which hasn't existed in years) will steal the election for Clinton. That shows the long staying power of GOP conspiracy theories.

Quote
-Even though Trump ended up admitting it didn't exist 47% of his voters say they saw the video of Iran collecting 400 million dollars from the United States to only 46% who say they didn't see the video. Showing the extent to which the ideas Trump floats and the coverage they get can overshadow the facts, even 25% of Clinton voters claim to have seen the nonexistent video.

:cac
©ZH

Madrun Badrun

  • twin-anused mascot
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18451 on: August 09, 2016, 02:15:59 PM »
First ACORN came for Trump and no one said a word, Breh.  No one said a word. 

Phoenix Dark

  • I got no game it's just some bitches understand my story
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18452 on: August 09, 2016, 03:38:43 PM »
apparently Trumpy trump just now insinuated gun owners murder Hillary Clinton if they don't want her to be president :holeup
video

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/763093253260390400
010

Madrun Badrun

  • twin-anused mascot
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18453 on: August 09, 2016, 03:45:03 PM »
wtf

Trent Dole

  • the sharpest tool in the shed
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18454 on: August 09, 2016, 04:05:47 PM »
L I T E R A L  F A S C I S M
I
T
E
R
A
L

F
A
S
C
I
S
M
Hi

Cerveza mas fina

  • I don't care for Islam tbqh
  • filler
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18455 on: August 09, 2016, 04:28:13 PM »
just when you thought trump couldnt say dumber shit

Joe Molotov

  • I'm much more humble than you would understand.
  • Administrator
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18456 on: August 09, 2016, 04:53:52 PM »
He's just saying though, he just hears things on the Internet.
©@©™

Phoenix Dark

  • I got no game it's just some bitches understand my story
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18457 on: August 09, 2016, 05:11:14 PM »

:dead
010

brawndolicious

  • Nylonhilist
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18458 on: August 09, 2016, 05:36:41 PM »
I've been getting more and more suspicious that Trump is planning to veer to the right rather than become more moderate. Since he isn't going to win at this point unless there's a 9/11 level attack in the US but his best (realistic)  expectation is to get hardcore conservatives to go and vote. So he doesn't have to lose in a landslide.

Are his comments dangerous? Absolutely which is why he can't be president. But he also doesn't actually want to directly order a domestic terror group to go and do terrorist attacks because that would hurt his popularity even more of course.

I'm being totally serious. That's how I think he sees the world.

Phoenix Dark

  • I got no game it's just some bitches understand my story
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18459 on: August 09, 2016, 05:56:08 PM »
BREHS

Quote
@LEBassett

Katrina Pierson's long-awaited explanation: Trump was saying an assassination "could" happen, not that it "should" happen.
https://twitter.com/LEBassett/status/763110016152928258
010

TakingBackSunday

  • Banana Grabber
  • Senior Member
püp

TakingBackSunday

  • Banana Grabber
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18461 on: August 09, 2016, 06:47:07 PM »
This is floating on Facebook atm
 (Image removed from quote.)
 Made by the page unironically titled "The Three Percenters Club".

I wonder how many of the people this dude mentioned are actually suffering crippling poverty.  Probably all of them.
püp

Van Cruncheon

  • live mas or die trying
  • Banned
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18462 on: August 09, 2016, 06:51:13 PM »
they'll work harder real soon now as soon as the government gets off their back and quits propping up dem black ghetto thugz am i rite
duc

Great Rumbler

  • Dab on the sinners
  • Global Moderator
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18463 on: August 09, 2016, 07:01:33 PM »
apparently Trumpy trump just now insinuated gun owners murder Hillary Clinton if they don't want her to be president :holeup
video

https://twitter.com/NBCNightlyNews/status/763093253260390400

On the plus side, we did get this sweet Warren tweet in reply:

Quote
.@realDonaldTrump makes death threats because he's a pathetic coward who can’t handle the fact that he’s losing to a girl.

— Elizabeth Warren (@elizabethforma) August 9, 2016

:whew
dog

Madrun Badrun

  • twin-anused mascot
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18464 on: August 09, 2016, 07:05:26 PM »


Phoenix Dark

  • I got no game it's just some bitches understand my story
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18465 on: August 09, 2016, 09:51:51 PM »
010

Great Rumbler

  • Dab on the sinners
  • Global Moderator
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18466 on: August 10, 2016, 12:17:22 AM »
Quote
Consider the two candidates’ Facebook accounts: Trump has over 10 million “likes” while Hillary has just over 5 million.

:heh
dog

Brehvolution

  • Until at last, I threw down my enemy and smote his ruin upon the mountainside.
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18467 on: August 10, 2016, 08:40:53 AM »
I was just surprised he didn't call them the two amendment people.  :doge
©ZH

Am_I_Anonymous

  • And I'm pretty sure fuck you (italics implied)
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18468 on: August 10, 2016, 12:32:24 PM »
Meanwhile, while the media is doing there thing....Ill just leave this here.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/09/politics/hillary-clinton-emails-judicial-watch/index.html

YMMV

Am_I_Anonymous

  • And I'm pretty sure fuck you (italics implied)
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18469 on: August 10, 2016, 12:39:39 PM »
So they got someone a job, and at another point they connected a big player in Lebanon with the ambassador to Lebanon.

Truly shocking. How will they ever survive this.

You may be okay with this method of hiring because you don't know any better, but this is an affront to the system she is trying to preach.

Get over it man, she's just as big of a monster as trump. Worst election ever.
YMMV

I'm a Puppy!

  • Knows the muffin man.
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18470 on: August 10, 2016, 12:42:52 PM »
Hillary was inevitable. She has so much of the establishment and name recognition it's difficult for her not to have won, it would take another Obama to stop her and Bernie is not that.

But the republicans reached deep into their ranks and searched for their best and came up with...Trump???
que

Am_I_Anonymous

  • And I'm pretty sure fuck you (italics implied)
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18471 on: August 10, 2016, 12:45:06 PM »
Hillary was inevitable. She has so much of the establishment and name recognition it's difficult for her not to have won, it would take another Obama to stop her and Bernie is not that.

But the republicans reached deep into their ranks and searched for their best and came up with...Trump???

Nah he was a wildcard. They should have ran Kasich he would probably win.
YMMV

I'm a Puppy!

  • Knows the muffin man.
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18472 on: August 10, 2016, 12:46:00 PM »
I....I agree with AiA.
What's happening to me? :brazilcry
que

Madrun Badrun

  • twin-anused mascot
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18473 on: August 10, 2016, 12:46:23 PM »
Republicans delved too greedily and too deep.  You know what they awoke in the darkness of Trump tower. 

Phoenix Dark

  • I got no game it's just some bitches understand my story
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18474 on: August 10, 2016, 12:47:42 PM »
So they got someone a job, and at another point they connected a big player in Lebanon with the ambassador to Lebanon.

Truly shocking. How will they ever survive this.

You may be okay with this method of hiring because you don't know any better, but this is an affront to the system she is trying to preach.

Get over it man, she's just as big of a monster as trump. Worst election ever.
:lol

Don't you own a successful business, deal with successful business people, you've met Dan Gilbert etc? And you honestly are shocked that favor for a favor shit happens?
:neogaf
010

Am_I_Anonymous

  • And I'm pretty sure fuck you (italics implied)
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18475 on: August 10, 2016, 12:48:05 PM »
Republicans delved too greedily and too deep.  You know what they awoke in the darkness of Trump tower.

A guy who is going to get blown out in this election and ruin his reputation. Maybe they were playing the long con?
YMMV

Am_I_Anonymous

  • And I'm pretty sure fuck you (italics implied)
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18476 on: August 10, 2016, 12:48:49 PM »
So they got someone a job, and at another point they connected a big player in Lebanon with the ambassador to Lebanon.

Truly shocking. How will they ever survive this.

You may be okay with this method of hiring because you don't know any better, but this is an affront to the system she is trying to preach.

Get over it man, she's just as big of a monster as trump. Worst election ever.
:lol

Don't you own a successful business, deal with successful business people, you've met Dan Gilbert etc? And you honestly are shocked that favor for a favor shit happens?
:neogaf

In the private sector? Nope

In the public sector? If you even endorse this activity I question your morals.
YMMV

Phoenix Dark

  • I got no game it's just some bitches understand my story
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18477 on: August 10, 2016, 12:57:49 PM »
So they got someone a job, and at another point they connected a big player in Lebanon with the ambassador to Lebanon.

Truly shocking. How will they ever survive this.

You may be okay with this method of hiring because you don't know any better, but this is an affront to the system she is trying to preach.

Get over it man, she's just as big of a monster as trump. Worst election ever.
:lol

Don't you own a successful business, deal with successful business people, you've met Dan Gilbert etc? And you honestly are shocked that favor for a favor shit happens?
:neogaf

In the private sector? Nope


:hitler
ok
010

Am_I_Anonymous

  • And I'm pretty sure fuck you (italics implied)
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18478 on: August 10, 2016, 01:00:41 PM »
So they got someone a job, and at another point they connected a big player in Lebanon with the ambassador to Lebanon.

Truly shocking. How will they ever survive this.

You may be okay with this method of hiring because you don't know any better, but this is an affront to the system she is trying to preach.

Get over it man, she's just as big of a monster as trump. Worst election ever.
:lol

Don't you own a successful business, deal with successful business people, you've met Dan Gilbert etc? And you honestly are shocked that favor for a favor shit happens?
:neogaf

In the private sector? Nope


:hitler
ok

Dude a private sectors job is to make profit.

This job is to improve lives. No offense I ain't putting drunk cousin Leon on the payroll because you asked me to.
YMMV

Am_I_Anonymous

  • And I'm pretty sure fuck you (italics implied)
  • Senior Member
Re: US Politics Thread |OT| NO BABIES ALLOWED
« Reply #18479 on: August 10, 2016, 01:01:53 PM »
Y'all know Hillary don't give a fuck about you right?

Where you at in life when you just an unspoken cuck to the Democratic Party

:dunno
YMMV