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[curly]

It's crazy how Trump is unable to tone down his shittiness at all to appeal to the general electorate.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Maybe he doesnt want to be president and is just building a fanbase

[benjipwns]

Or maybe Trump doesn't have a secret plan and is simply Donald Trump acting as he always has acted, impulsively and with no ability for self-reflection or to concede he did something wrong.

[curly]

I don't buy it. He's too conceited and petty to lose on purpose.

It's amazing that someone this stupid was able to play the GOP establishment so well.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Its just hard to believe that someone can be that dumb and not post on neogaf

[Phoenix Dark]

Seemed like early on Trump was meeting the very low bar the media has set for him. He kinda answered questions and was reserved, which is enough to pass the test. But the he longer it went on he once again started imploding with really weird tantrums.

Clinton evading the question on the Clinton Foundation was so ugly yet she managed to pivot to Putin and while it initially seemed like Trump wouldn't take the bait, he jumped on it the minute her attacks got sharper.

[Brehvolution]

I don't buy it. He's too conceited and petty to lose on purpose.

Have you ever been around a rich person? Their ego overshadows reality.

It's amazing that someone this stupid was able to play the GOP establishment so well.

He had the most money and that's all that matters to the base.

[zomgee]

He had the most money and that's all that matters to the base.

Is that what got him through all the primaries and party debates?

[Brehvolution]

He had the most money and that's all that matters to the base.

Is that what got him through all the primaries and party debates?

Yes, surprisingly. Though it's odd he never did mentioned his wealth or business success during the primaries.

[Great Rumbler]

Trump was helped tremendously by the primary debate format [large amount of participants rather than 1v1] and his primary opponents being completely thrown off by his behavior. By the time the general came around, Hillary's team had everything they needed to induce him to hurt himself.

[Stoney Mason]

I don't trust Americans enough to say I never felt he would win. I think there were a few key periods where if he did something slightly differently than he did, he would have had a chance.

Thank God, its Donald Trump and he didn't have the ego or temperament to do that. Any non-jackass would have understand he had to moderate himself just a little. But once things started going badly he eagerly fell back on his worst instincts. The ones that worked in the GOP primary but don't work in the general election when the viewing audience isn't just a bunch of bitter deranged cranks. 

[Brehvolution]

Wait, so the "Silent Majority" is still just the old loud minority? 

October surprise!!!

[james]

Trump is lucky.

His debate disaster will go unnoticed as the world focuses their attention on a new Splatoon

[helios]

[Mandark]

Also an audience of crazies and some of the most milquetoast opponents possible trying to appeal to the same crazies. The GOP base exists in another world and always has, a vocal minority of the public that only contributed to it's alienation.

This is basically it.  Trump's shtick was very appealing to lots of GOP primary voters, but even then it was already alienating him from the people who'd be voting in the general.  Barring a sharp, well-timed recession or some other fluke, he's been setting himself up for failure on the next level.

Donald Trump is a system quarterback.

[tiesto]

TUUUUUNE:

[Trurl]

I think that in the unlikely event that Trump loses he will give the most gracious concession speech of all time.   

Seriously, while anything is possible the most likely event imo is everyone be surprised at how humble, gracious and fair he sounds in his concession.   He'll go back to being a turd within 24 hours of that, though.

[CatsCatsCats]

Nope, he will fan the outrage of Crooked Hillary winning and then monetize that outrage

[helios]

[Trurl]

Probably, but first he'll surprise everyone and try to buy some goodwill with a concession speech.

There's a chance that he'll start with "Hillary is an honorable woman" and end with "CRY HAVOC AND LET SLIP THE DOGS OF WAR" though.

[Kara]

http://abovethelaw.com/2016/10/you-dont-see-dred-scott-cited-approvingly-everyday/

Just to kind of show where we're at as a nation right now, the Solicitor General of Kansas cited Dred Scott in a court filing. Yes, that Kansas.

[Mandark]

Man, the author of that article even stole what would've been my post about it.

An interesting side story here is that an anti-abortion stance would choose to cite Dred Scott approvingly since it’s a shibboleth in those circles to reject Dred Scott as a proxy for Roe. Seems like Brownback’s people got some wires crossed when it comes to anti-abortion etiquette.

edit: Also the argument in general seems to be that even though equal rights are explicitly included in the KS state constitution (not just in the preamble, but in its bill of rights), because they didn't include the phrase "due process of the law" they're basically null and void.  C'mon now.

[Steve Contra]

After the debate my friends and I drunkenly decided that young John McCain was the hottest when he was young of the current crop of politicians.



Biden was second. 

[Stoney Mason]

So begins the blamescaping of how Trump was nominated.

[Syph]

After the debate my friends and I drunkenly decided that young John McCain was the hottest when he was young of the current crop of politicians.

(Image removed from quote.)

Biden was second.

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lol kills me everytime

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[Steve Contra]

http://www.snappytv.com/tc/3055391
Trump will accept the results "if he wins" in case you were wondering if he was going to walk back last night (he's not).

[Tasty]

I think that in the unlikely event that Trump loses

[doctavius bonbon]

[benjipwns]

http://abovethelaw.com/2016/10/you-dont-see-dred-scott-cited-approvingly-everyday/

Just to kind of show where we're at as a nation right now, the Solicitor General of Kansas cited Dred Scott in a court filing. Yes, that Kansas.

Why not this Kansas? Always with the negative portrayals of American history.

[Phoenix Dark]

Donald Trump is a system quarterback.

No wonder Tom Brady is a fan.

[benjipwns]

Oh that reminds me, Kara, the defunct Natural Law Party* still has a ballot line in Michigan.

The Socialist Party USA grabbed it this year. I could vote for that social fascist sell out Mimi Soltysik.

The campaign’s focus throughout the upcoming year will not be on the candidates. The campaign’s focus will be on you. You are the mother, the father, the student, the worker. You are the community — the community that fights for the breath of dignity as the boot of oppression digs its heel into your throat – and you are the sacred, essential ingredient necessary for liberation. Capitalism and its defenders tremble when contemplating your power. That fear makes us smile, as we are seeing the dawn of a new era of equality, peace, and justice peeking over the horizon. Its light heals our collective wounds. It is the light of socialism.

How will this campaign be able to contribute toward the revolutionary movement? We can start by listening. We will do our best to soothe fears. As those new to the ideas seek guidance in finding movement work to plug into locally, we can use our resources to help them find a home. We can help to connect those currently involved in the revolutionary struggle, working to build new working relationships that sustain. We can offer compassion to the aching backs of the movement. We will not mince words as we attack capitalism. Our goal is not reform. Our goal is not a kinder, gentler, greener oppression.

This campaign is not a photo-op. This campaign is about a revolution, and this is a revolution about a shared love of the planet and its people. It begins with you. You are here for a reason. We are here for a reason. Our unity is mighty. ‪#‎REV16‬

With love and respect,

Mimi Soltysik & Angela Nicole Walker

I mean they do have a cute kitty in their logo:


But yet he also has this tattoo:


*

The party proposed that political problems could be solved through alignment with the "Unified Field" of all the laws of nature through the use of the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi programs.

[Joe Molotov]

https://twitter.com/double_cupp_me/status/789088080426831872



pd explain

[Mandark]

So a FB friend posted this unironically today.

[Madrun Badrun]

I now think less of you knowing the friends you keep. 

[Nola]

http://www.snappytv.com/tc/3055391
Trump will accept the results "if he wins" in case you were wondering if he was going to walk back last night (he's not).

[Steve Contra]

So a FB friend posted this unironically today.

America will be respected once again as the most powerful and prosperous nation on earth, (other than Israel)

I need a with a yarmulke

[Nola]

I think that in the unlikely event that Trump loses he will give the most gracious concession speech of all time.   

Seriously, while anything is possible the most likely event imo is everyone be surprised at how humble, gracious and fair he sounds in his concession.   He'll go back to being a turd within 24 hours of that, though.

 



 


 

[Syph]

https://twitter.com/double_cupp_me/status/789088080426831872

(Image removed from quote.)

pd explain

[Kara]

http://abovethelaw.com/2016/10/you-dont-see-dred-scott-cited-approvingly-everyday/

Just to kind of show where we're at as a nation right now, the Solicitor General of Kansas cited Dred Scott in a court filing. Yes, that Kansas.

Why not this Kansas? Always with the negative portrayals of American history.

I know you know why I linked it, but for our international audience (or our American and educated in the American public education system audience) it's worth pointing out that the government of a state that was very much a product of the struggle against Slave Power is citing in court a case like Dred Scott.

[Mandark]

Ah, Bleeding Kansas, a sort of prelude to the Civil War where two sides fought a pitched battle over tariffs.

[Joe Molotov]

Ah, Bleeding Kansas, a sort of prelude to the Civil War where two sides fought a pitched battle over tariffs.

It was actually about ethics in states' rights.

[benjipwns]

So a FB friend posted this unironically today.

Is Taylor right? Wiles explored that question, and all of the retired firefighter's prophecy in detail during the 68-minute program

i don't have time for this, i need a yes or no

the link for that didn't go to the interview but instead linked to a page with this:

“Guilty As Sin” also reveals details about Hillary’s health issues, not least of which is her five public fainting spells, and the shocking disclosure that she needs a heart-valve replacement.

Klein also briefly outlined the meeting between Bill Clinton and U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch in her airplane on the tarmac. Mr. Clinton reputedly asked his legal advisor if it would be wise to try to board Ms. Lynch’s plane, and Mr. Clinton’s legal counsel effectively said he had nothing to lose by trying and everything to gain. After Mr. Clinton was on board, Ms. Lynch must have realized the folly of her actions because she began to tremble, and beads of sweat formed on her lip.

She needs that replacement because of all the tremendous hatred running through it.

[thisismyusername]

http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/uploads//monthly_01_2010/post-9425-1264735690.jpg

Navy, too. He probably has seen his fair share of seamen.

[studyguy]

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-janet-jackson-nasty-20161020-snap-story.html

Ay man, as far as themes headed out of the election, this is okay.

[I'm a Puppy!]

what's going to happen is that Hillary is going to blow Trump out of the water. And the Trumpites are going to be like "No one's ever lost this bad before! That proves it's fraud!"

[Phoenix Dark]

what's going to happen is that Hillary is going to blow Trump out of the water. And the Trumpites are going to be like "No one's ever lost this bad before! That proves it's fraud!"

Hence why they're focusing on outlier polls (Ras, LAT) and ignoring aggregates. Same shit they did in 2012 but whereas republicans (even Hannity!) admitted the polls were right after that election this time I expect Trump and his fiercest supporters to claim fraud.

That being said I think it'll be a pretty small crowd. I don't see Chris Christie, Mike Pence, and others carrying Trump's water anymore once he loses. So it'll be Trump, Don Jr, Hannity, and other burnouts claiming the election was rigged, and the base will believe.

At the end of the day this is a monster republicans created. Not just fringe republicans. Establishment republicans gave them aide and comfort with the obsession over ACORN, NBPP, assaulting the VRA, voter ID fuckery, etc.

[Joe Molotov]

what's going to happen is that Hillary is going to blow Trump out of the water. And the Trumpites are going to be like "No one's ever lost this bad before! That proves it's fraud!"

I hope they bravely take over a fish hatchery until Hillary concedes or the snacks run out.

[Human Snorenado]

what's going to happen is that Hillary is going to blow Trump out of the water. And the Trumpites are going to be like "No one's ever lost this bad before! That proves it's fraud!"

I hope they bravely take over a fish hatchery until Hillary concedes or the snacks run out.

WOLVERINES!

[I'm a Puppy!]

Hey guys, remember when AiA used to post in this thread

[TakingBackSunday]

Or MTW

[Brehvolution]

Or FOC

[Brehvolution]

So a FB friend posted this unironically today.

Any attempt to tie trump with religion is fucking amazing.

It's like them willingly putting a 'fake christian' sticker on their forehead. They have no fucking clue about the teachings of Christ.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

https://twitter.com/ObamaMalik/status/789255535765970944

[seagrams hotsauce]

What the fuck is this?

[benjipwns]

Trump and Hillary not bad at Al Smith dinner

EDIT:

[benjipwns]

Meanwhile in more Kansas news:
http://www.kansas.com/news/politics-government/article109448412.html

A Kansas House leader said Thursday that her intent was to criticize Planned Parenthood when she called Adolf Hitler’s words profound in a Facebook post.

“Great quote from Hitler in the video,” Speaker Pro Tem Peggy Mast, R-Emporia, the No. 3 Republican in the Kansas House, posted to her Facebook page Thursday morning. “Please listen to it closely. His words are profound! Let’s start using discernment.”

Mast, who is not seeking re-election, did not return phone calls. She did, however, take to social media to clarify her position.

She said in another Facebook post that her intent was to compare Planned Parenthood, the country’s largest reproductive health provider, to the Nazi leader and that she “was not in any way agreeing with Hitler’s words.”

Mast’s initial post did not contain a video. An hour later, she shared a link to an article from JulieRoys.com, a Christian blog. The article included a transcript and video of anti-abortion activist Gianna Jessen testifying before Congress about Planned Parenthood.

During her testimony, Jessen quoted Hitler on propaganda, contending that Planned Parenthood used techniques similar to those of the Nazis.

“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan,” Hitler said in the quotation.

Mast’s initial post puzzled Christie Krieghauser, House Speaker Ray Merrick’s chief of staff.

“Sorry, I’m confused,” Krieghauser wrote. “What video and how is there a great quote from Hitler?” She said that based on her relationship with Mast she had a hard time believing the lawmaker intended to praise Hitler.

Mast’s perceived praise for the leader of the Third Reich, who ordered the slaughter of 6 million Jews, drew sharp criticism.

[benjipwns]

Meanwhile, in pop star news:
http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/301780-madonna-pledges-oral-sex-for-clinton-voters

Madonna is pledging to perform oral sex on voters who cast their ballots for Hillary Clinton.

The pop queen, known for her shocking antics, made the remark Tuesday while opening for comedian Amy Schumer in New York.

“If you vote for Hillary Clinton,” Madonna told the crowd at Madison Square Garden, “I will give you a blow job.”

“And I’m good,” the 58-year-old “Like a Virgin” singer, an outspoken supporter of the Democratic presidential nominee, said to cheers from the audience.

“I’m not a tool. I take my time,” Madonna boasted.

[benjipwns]

 

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come on billy let's go

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[Madrun Badrun]

Billy is such a weasel. 

[benjipwns]

Hence why they're focusing on outlier polls (Ras, LAT) and ignoring aggregates.

ahem: http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/301220-you-cant-trust-polls-clintons-winning-but-our-polling-methods-are

To start with something basic, opinion polls are really about “opinions,” not actions. At their best, they can tell us how people feel about political issues and personalities. Do voters, for instance, like or dislike candidates such as Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump?

Yet having an opinion and acting on it are two different things. Barely 6 in 10 voting-age American citizens turn out for presidential elections. Ascertaining the opinions of 100 citizens is just a start. Now you have to determine which 60 of them actually take the time to mark a ballot. They are the “likely voters.” They are the only ones that count. But to find them is no easy chore.

It is ingrained in all of us that voting is civic duty. So nearly all of us say, oh yes, I’ll vote, and then many will not follow through. Miscalculations of which respondents will turn out to vote can easily screw up a poll prediction

So hold off on trusting poll-driven proclamations of a Clinton victory just yet. Voters have a way of always getting the last word. 

http://www.syracuse.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/10/helmut_norpoth_donald_trump_victory.html
http://primarymodel.com/

It is 87% to 99% certain that Donald Trump will win the presidential election on November 8, 2016; 87% if running against Hillary Clinton, 99% if against Bernie Sanders.