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[zepblackstar]

http://khn.org/morning-breakout/colorado-rejects-single-payer-health-insurance-measure/

Colorado Rejects Single-Payer Measure, Approves Right-To-Die Initiative

 

[agrajag]

Hey, on the plus side, maybe wikileaks will start posting Republican dirt now that they're the "establishment". 

Only if the useful idiot in office gets out of line.

[benjipwns]

In nearly every swing state, no candidate is getting >50%. Just jesus fucking christ the people in those states who didn't turn out can just shut the fuck up forever.

Also proves we need to get rid of the whole EC thing.

I didn't turn out in Michigan.

[Human Snorenado]

Tip of the hat to AiA and MTW. Y'all we're right. America really fucking hates Hillary Clinton.

The good news is that Trump is so much more incompetent and stupid than even Bush that it probably won't even be six years until stupid white people are ready to elect Democrats again. Progress!

[Great Rumbler]

ACA's probably toast within the first few weeks, unless Senate Dems rally for a fillibuster [and then keep it up for at least 2 years, and if Senate GOP doesn't go nuclear and axe the filibuster]
Scalia 2.0 [or worse] within the next few months
Executive Cabinet that's a Who's Who of all the jokers we've seen on TV over the past 1.5 years
Massive tax cuts leading to massive deficits
Could also see Trump, and Congress, going hard against Hillary because why not?
And who knows what other horrors await.

[james]

Another example of Hillary's horrible judgement

Worst VP pick since Palin.

This woman tries to fail at everything.

Im sorry the democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory - again and again and again - bothers me

See also: Rubio leading

Why was I right?

[zepblackstar]

Word is that Mike Pence is basically going to be the shadow president while Trump is the face of the power.

[Himu]

This means I can't get married anymore does it? they're going to turn over marriage equality

[james]

If Hillary wins the popular vote, we can riot right?

Please?

Im sick and tired of democrats sitting down and taking every fucking loss.

She's down in the popular vote as well.

Not after California finishes counting

[El Babua]

Probably the shock talking but I'm going to Bass Pro to buy a gun tomorrow.

For self defense. 

[Momo]

Just tuned into TYT for salt purposes, I shouldn't have, such garbage. Why did I ever like watching this channel 

[agrajag]

Another example of Hillary's horrible judgement

Worst VP pick since Palin.

This woman tries to fail at everything.

Im sorry the democrats snatching defeat from the jaws of victory - again and again and again - bothers me

See also: Rubio leading

Why was I right?

 

[zomgee]

This means I can't get married anymore does it? they're going to turn over marriage equality

Nah, you're fine.



See? Everything is fine.

[Boredfrom]

So, uh.

What happens next? Has the reality set in for everyone? What's going to happen in the next 100 days, the next 4 years? Is Trump going to attempt to actually do all the things he promised/threatened to do? Is he going to repeal ACA, create deportation forces, build a flush wall on the Mexican border? Is he going to try to try to put Hillary Clinton behind bars? And more importantly, is half of America going to stand for it?

Are you guys going to watch his victory speech? I cannot stomach it, he is insufferable. Just going to have this last beer and go to bed, I have a big day at work tomorrow.

Reality is also going to hit him when he is in office, GOP is going to love him for years to come until they realize that his politics are not exactly Reagan, but that will take time as you lost everything else to they even notice.

[Shaka Khan]

I'm fucking inconsolable right now. This country can elect whoever the it wants. All I'm asking is that I get to continue to see my family without barriers and love/marry whomever I want.

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Jesus fucking Christ millennials. Get fucked.

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[zepblackstar]

you thought the Alt-Right was bad before... This is now release the hellhounds on all those who oppose Trump

[brawndolicious]

ACA's probably toast within the first few weeks, unless Senate Dems rally for a fillibuster [and then keep it up for at least 2 years, and if Senate GOP doesn't go nuclear and axe the filibuster]
Scalia 2.0 [or worse] within the next few months
Executive Cabinet that's a Who's Who of all the jokers we've seen on TV over the past 1.5 years
Massive tax cuts leading to massive deficits
Could also see Trump, and Congress, going hard against Hillary because why not?
And who knows what other horrors await.

A huge fucking useless wall and hostility to immigrants. Particularly brown ones.

[Himu]

I'm fucking inconsolable right now. This country can elect whoever the it wants. All I'm asking is that I get to continue to see my family without barriers and love/marry whomever I want.

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Jesus fucking Christ millennials. Get fucked.

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What was the millennial vote %?

[james]

If the dems allow Trump to appoint a supreme court person in the name of "working together" I will be absolutely done.

Fillibuster for 4 years. Period. Time for some medicine.

[agrajag]

ACA's probably toast within the first few weeks, unless Senate Dems rally for a fillibuster [and then keep it up for at least 2 years, and if Senate GOP doesn't go nuclear and axe the filibuster]
Scalia 2.0 [or worse] within the next few months
Executive Cabinet that's a Who's Who of all the jokers we've seen on TV over the past 1.5 years
Massive tax cuts leading to massive deficits
Could also see Trump, and Congress, going hard against Hillary because why not?
And who knows what other horrors await.

So Rudy Giuliani, Chris Christie in cabinet positions? Who else?

And where does HRC go from here? She doesn't hold any kind of political office. Is she finished as a major player?

[El Babua]

Mulling over some random thoughts in my head, it'll be pretty hilarious that it will be Democrats being the "state's rights" party for the foreseeable future.

First step, have South Florida secede from the rest of Florida.

[benjipwns]

With the caveat that not all these states are 100% in. Excepting Hawai'i and California, 2012 Obama's top ten states -> 2016 Clinton.

DC: 90.9% -> 92.8%
VT: 66.6% -> 61.1%
NY: 63.4% -> 59.7%
RI: 62.7% -> 54.9%
MD: 62.0% -> 60.6%
MA: 60.7% -> 60.4%
DE: 58.6% -> 53.4%
NJ: 58.4% -> 54.8%
CT: 58.1% -> 52.1%
IL: 57.6% -> 55.6%

DC was the only one she increased the D share in.

[james]

ACA's probably toast within the first few weeks, unless Senate Dems rally for a fillibuster [and then keep it up for at least 2 years, and if Senate GOP doesn't go nuclear and axe the filibuster]
Scalia 2.0 [or worse] within the next few months
Executive Cabinet that's a Who's Who of all the jokers we've seen on TV over the past 1.5 years
Massive tax cuts leading to massive deficits
Could also see Trump, and Congress, going hard against Hillary because why not?
And who knows what other horrors await.

So Rudy Giuliani, Chris Christie in cabinet positions? Who else?

And where does HRC go from here? She doesn't hold any kind of political office. Is she finished as a major player?

Knowing the democrats theyll run her again in 2018 as a senator, Martha Choakley style

[Human Snorenado]

9% of 18-29 year olds voted 3rd party, 8% of 30-44 year olds

GOOD JON GUYZ

[Madrun Badrun]

This is done.

[Human Snorenado]

ACA's probably toast within the first few weeks, unless Senate Dems rally for a fillibuster [and then keep it up for at least 2 years, and if Senate GOP doesn't go nuclear and axe the filibuster]
Scalia 2.0 [or worse] within the next few months
Executive Cabinet that's a Who's Who of all the jokers we've seen on TV over the past 1.5 years
Massive tax cuts leading to massive deficits
Could also see Trump, and Congress, going hard against Hillary because why not?
And who knows what other horrors await.

So Rudy Giuliani, Chris Christie in cabinet positions? Who else?

And where does HRC go from here? She doesn't hold any kind of political office. Is she finished as a major player?

Jail, probably. Emails!

[eleuin]

Word is that Mike Pence is basically going to be the shadow president while Trump is the face of the power.

when do the conversion camps start? 

[Shaka Khan]

I'm fucking inconsolable right now. This country can elect whoever the it wants. All I'm asking is that I get to continue to see my family without barriers and love/marry whomever I want.

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Jesus fucking Christ millennials. Get fucked.

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What was the millennial vote %?

"According to the national exit poll, 9 percent of voters ages 18 to 29 went for third parties, as did 8 percent of voters ages 30 to 44."

Forget about family and loved ones, birthright citizenship might be threatened under a Trump presidency. Fuck me.

[Great Rumbler]

And where does HRC go from here? She doesn't hold any kind of political office. Is she finished as a major player?

Hillary needs to disappear into the night, honestly. And the DNC needs to clean house immediately, and begin prepping younger members for a street brawl in 2020 [and 2018].

[agrajag]

9% of 18-29 year olds voted 3rd party, 8% of 30-44 year olds

GOOD JON GUYZ

what percentage of older people?

[Boredfrom]

9% of 18-29 year olds voted 3rd party, 8% of 30-44 year olds

GOOD JON GUYZ

They are probably fine with that, specially since everyone tried to guilt trip them to vote for Trump or Hillary.

[Phoenix Dark]

I should have become a black republican when I had a chance.

[brawndolicious]

What's the largest margin that somebody won the popular vote by but lost the election? I'm wondering if we're headed to a new record.

[agrajag]

Another question is: will the alt-right/mainstream GOD/whoever else is their party base now, will they grow complacent in the next midterm elections, like Democrats got and can Dems gain back some of the House/Senate? Or will it be an all out war from this point on and in any conceivable future?

[zepblackstar]

Arizona going Trump it seems and cuts off Hillary from 270

Another question is: will the alt-right/mainstream GOD/whoever else is their party base now, will they grow complacent in the next midterm elections, like Democrats got and can Dems gain back some of the House/Senate? Or will it be an all out war from this point on and in any conceivable future?

Senate in 2018 is heavily favoring GOP, Its pretty nasty for Dems.

Alt-Right is the flip side of say Gaf where they understand how to play dirty in a sense unlike the older GOP member. They won't lay off the gas.

[Syph]

Word is that Mike Pence is basically going to be the shadow president while Trump is the face of the power.

I've said this all along. It won't be as bad as people think. Trump will basically be a figurehead.

[Madrun Badrun]

It does and Maine has 2 districts one oc which is going trump.  She can't win.

[Freyj]

PA gone right?

[james]

On the plus side, Trump likes infrastructure right?

[brawndolicious]

Word is that Mike Pence is basically going to be the shadow president while Trump is the face of the power.

I've said this all along. It won't be as bad as people think. Trump will basically be a figurehead.

Yes but a Republican in Congress means we lose everything we got with Obama and end up with half of what Trump promised. Plus conservative SC nominees.

[El Babua]

Word is that Mike Pence is basically going to be the shadow president while Trump is the face of the power.

I've said this all along. It won't be as bad as people think. Trump will basically be a figurehead.

I'm optimistic by nature, so I'm just trying to think of the best possible scenarios on how this goes. I just hope Trump doesn't nuke anyone at this point.

[james]

Uh have they suspended trading on the futures markets?

Do the deplorable realize that they just lost 5% of their retirement fund?

[Great Rumbler]

Word is that Mike Pence is basically going to be the shadow president while Trump is the face of the power.

I've said this all along. It won't be as bad as people think. Trump will basically be a figurehead.

I'm optimistic by nature, so I'm just trying to think of the best possible scenarios on how this goes. I just hope Trump doesn't nuke anyone at this point.

Best possible scenario is two really bad years of Trump and a GOP congress, with Congress going blue in 2018 because of how bad things are.

[Kara]

Word is that Mike Pence is basically going to be the shadow president while Trump is the face of the power.

I've said this all along. It won't be as bad as people think. Trump will basically be a figurehead.

Mike Piss is a scumbag. The prospect of him actually being POTUS is a horrifying one.

[Dennis]

Both white men and white women seems to have preferred Trump.

Kind of surprised so few white women wanted to vote for the white woman.

[Cerveza mas fina]

sure feels good to be in europe now

[Mr. Nobody]

Lose to a candidate who literally never explained his policies brehettes 

[Nola]

ACA's probably toast within the first few weeks, unless Senate Dems rally for a fillibuster [and then keep it up for at least 2 years, and if Senate GOP doesn't go nuclear and axe the filibuster]
Scalia 2.0 [or worse] within the next few months
Executive Cabinet that's a Who's Who of all the jokers we've seen on TV over the past 1.5 years
Massive tax cuts leading to massive deficits
Could also see Trump, and Congress, going hard against Hillary because why not?
And who knows what other horrors await.

Pretty much.

Though the ACA issue will be interesting. You repeal Obamacare and healthcare is now yours.

 Every person that becomes uninsured, Every new growth in costs, every bankrupted person, every person that scoffs at paying $600 for an epipen. The Republicans will now own that. Healthcare will be theirs.

[brawndolicious]

Nevada went to Hillary. Who the fuck knows what else is going to happen.

Word is that Mike Pence is basically going to be the shadow president while Trump is the face of the power.

I've said this all along. It won't be as bad as people think. Trump will basically be a figurehead.

I'm optimistic by nature, so I'm just trying to think of the best possible scenarios on how this goes. I just hope Trump doesn't nuke anyone at this point.

Best possible scenario is two really bad years of Trump and a GOP congress, with Congress going blue in 2018 because of how bad things are.

Basically 2004-6?

Just to fuck with him and his entire horde of slimy pieces of shit supporters, I really hope Hillary wins the popular vote by a sizable margin. Even at this point when she's likely to lose.

[Syph]

Word is that Mike Pence is basically going to be the shadow president while Trump is the face of the power.

I've said this all along. It won't be as bad as people think. Trump will basically be a figurehead.

I'm optimistic by nature, so I'm just trying to think of the best possible scenarios on how this goes. I just hope Trump doesn't nuke anyone at this point.

Best possible scenario is two really bad years of Trump and a GOP congress, with Congress going blue in 2018 because of how bad things are.

I'm going to get real pessimistic for a second (from Repub perspective) and tell you guys not to worry. Demographics baby. The country will only get more hispanic and less white. That bodes well for Democrats. Maybe not totally in congress, but definitely for presidency.

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that's why my boy Marco Rubio will be president one day 

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[Bebpo]

New Hampshire has Hillary ahead by a few hundred with 82% reporting.

People hate Trump but they must hate Hillary even more...

I doubt that. A bunch of swing state liberals stayed the fuck home or voted for some stupid ass third-party.

Anecdotally, everyone I know under 30 didn't vote for Clinton because they loved Bernie and couldn't get enthused about her.  Even women I know.  Most didn't vote or wrote in Bernie.  Sure I'm in CA so they get a little more leeway, but I really have a feeling that this was a common sentiment across millennials in all states, including swing states.  Bernie got them so riled up and excited for anti-establishment change, Hilary wasn't what they wanted.  There was a clear in-fighting disconnect between millennials & older democrats within the DNC itself and it couldn't have happened at a worse time with the SC nominations at stake.  Any future DNC candidate has to be the cool one that young kids want & the qualified one older democrats want.

But then again even if DNC fixes their shit and gets another president in, in 4 or 8 years, they'll have a republic obstructionist congress stopping them from doing anything just like Obama and on top of that the SC will be handing down conservative decisions.  Like I really don't want to be all hyperbolic, but this really seems like this one decision tonight has killed America's progressive positive future for a good chunk of the rest of my life (oh and global warming will kill are grandkids future too, whoops).

I feel like at this point I might as well make the best I can of the world on a local level, volunteering, doing more pro bono work, continuing treating everyone I meet with respect, being there for family, friends and neighbors because this country is likely done helping and showing empathy to anyone outside rich while males.

And it's a bit silly but this is literally the breaking point to get me to start dating again and hopefully find the right person to settle down, because if the world falls to shit, it'd be nice to still have someone to create your own sense of happiness together with.  Errrr, fwiw I don't really know how to put this into words.

[james]

ACA's probably toast within the first few weeks, unless Senate Dems rally for a fillibuster [and then keep it up for at least 2 years, and if Senate GOP doesn't go nuclear and axe the filibuster]
Scalia 2.0 [or worse] within the next few months
Executive Cabinet that's a Who's Who of all the jokers we've seen on TV over the past 1.5 years
Massive tax cuts leading to massive deficits
Could also see Trump, and Congress, going hard against Hillary because why not?
And who knows what other horrors await.

Pretty much.

Though the ACA issue will be interesting. You repeal Obamacare and healthcare is now yours.

 Every person that becomes uninsured, Every new growth in costs, every bankrupted person, every person that scoffs at paying $600 for an epipen. The Republicans will now own that. Healthcare will be theirs.

I have a government Cadillac plan, so Im ready for some delicious "fuck you I have mine"

[Great Rumbler]

Shredding the ACA could potentially backfire on the GOP, but we've been saying that about various things for the past 6 years and nothing actually has so far.

[Syph]

yo wtf after everything thats happened tonight, Joe Arpaio lost!

[Himu]

Lose to a candidate who literally never explained his policies brehettes 

Above else this is what gets me. THIS.

[Nola]

Word is that Mike Pence is basically going to be the shadow president while Trump is the face of the power.

And what happens when some foreign leader takes some potshots at Trump?

Some reporters start hating him hard on some allegation or start calling him out for being a puppet?

[Madrun Badrun]

all the pbs presenters are so depressed

[Madrun Badrun]

Remember when Green Shinobi tried to warn us and we laughed?

[james]

Remember when Green Shinobi tried to warn us and we laughed?

Ive been on the "Democrats snatch defeat from the jaws of victory" train since day 1.

I am also a Bernie Bro.

 

[Boredfrom]

yo wtf after everything thats happened tonight, Joe Arpaio lost!

It was makes this even weirder...